Austrian elections - socialists crashing to third place

Aussie-bros, explain what's going on. I heard your socialists have paid for fake Facebook accounts which spammed anti-semite and racists comments to smear the right wing parties? I heard the top dog election head of the socialists had to resign because he did that.

Are your socialists fucked? Is Austria finally going to have a right wing government which ends illegal immigration and starts deportations?

Also, why the fuck is your small party barrier 4% and not 5% like in Germany? With 5%, your Greens and commies (Pilz) would crash out of parliament!

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I don't even understand you people with your wired political systems.

Having 78 parties and shit.

It's all madness

>Having 78 parties and shit.
Don't you have a Green party, a libertarian party, a Tea Party etc.?

It's just that in continental Europe they get a few seats in parliament.

Also, if you look at the country which you modelled your House of Representative after - it has 5 main parties (Tories, Socialists, LibDem, SNP and UKIP). America went to two parties because of its size, not because of its system.

I don't even know how we could have more than two major parties. And by major I mean MAJOR.

I think you need half of the electoral college votes to win the presidency.

With 3 parties or more there is no fucking way a party could get to 50%

NZ greens almost died

Greens have 1 seat in australia, and thats too much. Bringing them down to 7 seats isnt an accomplishment.

Fuck Australia and fuck Australian posters. Irrelevant trash.

>Bringing them down to 7 seats isnt an accomplishment.
we have MMP though so they have to get proportional representation

>OVP
Disgusting.

ÖVP

i thought they are anti immigrant conservatives, no?

I hate how these cunts always avoid death.

They form coalitions.

Oh god.

No thanks.

You do the same. Within the GOP and within the Dems, there are different factions. E.g., Trump is part of the populist branch of the GOP and his coalition efforts have failed on various issues.

yes and no.

basically Kurz did a 180 degree change of heart in terms of immigration politics and started to adapt more of Strache's viewpoints which he always uses against him now, next to the fact that Kurz claimed that the immigrants are usually smarter than local austrians or something along the lines. Which is clearly wrong because Molymeme made a good point with that whole and rather bleak looking IQ disparity thing between 1st world and 3rd world countries.

right now, there are only 6 parties that are relevant to the election and you can see them in the graphic.

What is the most likely coalition?

who knows?
Black-Blue seems likely based on the polls.
or it will be something with Red again if they catch up.

Yes, something like that.

But even if the right wins and is able to form a viable coalition (that's the big if - the FPÖ is actually a national socialist not a classical right wing party), it will be an uphill battle from day one.

Like in the USA the so-called "civil society" will fight ferociously from the beginning.
If you want to succeed in this fight, you will have to dismantle their institutions (first and foremost the national broadcasting corporation) altogether and not try to take them over for the time being (this would only be temporal and of very limited effect).
But I very much doubt, that Kurz has the balls for this as it would also hurt his costituency somewhat - they like comfy public service jobs like anyone else...

The socialists and conservatives have a long history of putting a coalition together. That coalition is completely dysfunctional, so both sides want a coalition with the national socialist FPOe. And yes, the FPOe is nationalist... and they are also 100 percent aligned on social areas with the socialists.

G'day mate.

G'day, how is the weather down South?

G'day fellow Aussies

can we meme this?

>Samstagfrüh berichteten die Tageszeitung "Die Presse" und das Nachrichtenmagazin "profil", dass ein vom ehemaligen SPÖ-Berater Tal Silberstein engagiertes Team für die SPÖ Pro- und Anti-Sebastian Kurz-Facebookseiten organisiert hatte. Die rassistische und teils antisemitische Seite "Die Wahrheit über Sebastian Kurz" sowie der Auftritt "Wir für Sebastian Kurz", der sich als Fanseite für den ÖVP-Spitzenkandidaten ausgibt, wurden demnach im Auftrag Silbersteins bzw. der SPÖ produziert.

Pikantes Detail: Die Facebookseiten wurden auch nach dem Rauswurf von Silberstein, der im August in Israel im Zusammenhang mit Korruptions- und Geldwäschevorwürfen gegen einen seiner Geschäftspartner vorübergehend festgenommen worden war, in Abstimmung mit der SPÖ-Wahlkampfzentrale weiter betrieben und erst mit den Medienberichten über die Hintergründe vom Netz genommen. Laut "profil" betrug das Budget für die mit der Negativ-Kampagne gegen Kurz betraute Spezialeinheit rund 500.000 Euro. Zumindest ein Mitglied des SPÖ-Wahlkampfteams soll in die Aufträge involviert bzw. eingeweiht gewesen sein.

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>SPÖ financed a fake "right wing" facebookpage against Sebastian Kurz larping as ÖVP fanpage
>ties to Israel via Silberstein

G'day fellow Aussies

What I'm really wondering is who the fuck votes NEOS?

Same with the FDP in Deutschland

Neos is such a total meme party.
Obviously a political ultra-lightweight Griss joins that and won't convince anybody with that either.

might as well vote Düringer, the meme canditate. doesn't even matter at this point if you consider voting Neos.

Liberals who aren't retarded enough to vote Greens

>a green president
can't make this stuff up

he tricked all the imbeciles because he ran as """independent""" and now he is way too passive. might as well put a corpse in office.

Always relevant

At the very least, our president can't do fucking shit anyway. Still sucks.

>bad classical music
>Italy

I don't think anybody in Austria and not even the faggot who made this map believes that truly. it's a rubbish perspective. the other stereotypes at least make a bit sense for the sake of comedy.

It's to divide the people more and make sure a right wing government cannot gain majority that easily. They're trying to push that system here.

There are more leftist parties than right wing you nigger. The system favours the right.

>spö gets fucked over by a jew, because the jews jewed the jew in charge

I like this timeline

No matter how bad it gets it will always make more sense than simply having two parties.

Can other parties work with FPO and form coalition or is it considered an untouchable "nazi" party?

AUSTRIA NO

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>Austrian ban on full-face veil in public places comes into force
>An estimated 150 women wear the full burka in Austria but tourism officials have expressed fears that the measures will also deter visitors from the Gulf.

SPÖ press conference in ~15min

more lies to come

start drinking RIGHT. FUCKING. NOW.

they can and will.

>Same with the FDP in Deutschland
I voted FDP with the Erststimme. They are pretty based in some areas... relative to everyone else.

How does this compare to the previous election?
How will their stance on "refugees" change if at all?

>An estimated 150 women wear the full burka in Austria
It is around 100,000 women who wear the niqab or burqa which are affected - either as residents in Vienna or as tourists.

The 150 figure is bogus. I have seen over 300 face veil tourists in Zell am See on one summer day this year alone. And they only stay for a week, so the numbers are compounded.

It's confusing when people mix the concepts together.

Burka is the Afghan thing, niqab is the Saudi Wahhabi dress.

Very few women in the west wear a Burka, but Niqabs can be found.

>How does this compare to the previous election?
OeVP up, FPOe up, ... leftist (SPOe, Greens, NEOS) down. As in Germany.

>How will their stance on "refugees" change if at all?
If there is a Kurz-FPOe coalition it will change. The FPOe will do everything in their power to deport every single illegal they can get their hand on in the next years. The FPOe has been burned before in a coalition gov with the OeVP - massively burned to the breaking point of their party. This time around they will do exactly what their voters want them to do - deport all illegals, fight political Islam, reduce asylum seekers coming to Austria, reduce gibmees for foreigners.

I am not making this shit up, the FPOe is pretty determined on these issues - and Kurz of the OeVP is too young to retire or be thrown out after 5 yrs, so he will deliver too - he is aligned with the FPOe on the anti-illegal, anti-refugee stance (although he is a bit more moderate and wants the few true Geneva Convention refugees to be integrated).

one is more than enough. i hate encountering one of those fat black ghosts in the street, taking more space than a compact car.

they should have explicitely banned traditional islamic garments though.

Which party is anti immigrant and nationalist? Here we have nz first and they hold the balance of power in our current election

>they should have explicitely banned traditional islamic garments though.
They cannot. The constitution doesn't allow it. They made the ban "neutral", which is why clowns and surgical masks are also banned, unless you have a reason to wear them.

Quite honestly, I am for the broad ban, those freaking clowns are frightening as shit.

I remember that time when he said the state might end up forcing austrian women into wearing burqa if austrians weren't more tolerant toward muslims.

>OVP in first

What a time to be alive

At least there seems to be hope for Austria
And these things do effect the larger scale, the more EU countries are anti "refugee" the closer we are to stopping this horseshit.

Would an actually conservative Austrian government gave positive effects to Germany directly in any way?

So is Kurz merely a meme?

It's FPO.
OVP is the austrian CDU.

1 years ago FPO were ahead in the polls though. I don't know what happened.

3-4 months ago, actually. And consistently for a year

I wonder what happened as well

conservatives have a new face atop who borrowed anti-immigrant positions from the FPÖ, that's what happened.

Tell me about Wunderwuzzi, is he a cuck?

Yes, but the only non-meme party in Austria is FPO. It's better having OVP in the lead than SPO or the fucking Greens

>At least there seems to be hope for Austria
Yes. I am Austrian, so I am routing for my home country (despite all the shills there) to wake up.

The FPOe is also very pro hunting and very pro guns. Which is a good sign, as I love my guns (all of which had to remain behind in Austria... :( ).

Seems a bit stupid to trust them immediately imo, even if their rhetoric changed. I'd still vote for the consistently anti immigrant party, so it is a bit strange 10% of FPÖ switched support to ÖVP

>1 years ago FPO were ahead in the polls though. I don't know what happened.
>I wonder what happened as wel


Kurz (who the left calls a Nazi) came to power in the OVP. Kurz is anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, wants European borders be protected and no illegals be led in. He is also for deportations.

Whether he can deliver is a different matter, but many Austrians see him as a sign of hope at the end of the horizon.

>Tell me about Wunderwuzzi, is he a cuck?
Yes, he is. He is also a liar, an overpromiser and someone who is using every possible trick in the book to get to power.

But he is our type of cuck, a right winged cuck.

Would he forms a coalition with the FPO to launch the RWDS?

>Whether he can deliver is a different matter,
none of this bullshit
If ÖVP and FPÖ allign they'll have a clear majority and supposedly very similar goals. If he "fails" to execute his promises it is because he doesn't want to and no other reason. I've seen it in Finland as well, and indeed it did turn out that many of the "conservatives" including the leader never intended to keep their promises.

>came to power in the right wing party, is anti-immigrant, anti-refugee, wants European borders be protected and no illegals be led in.

Hmmm, where did I hear that before...

One of the reasons for my skepticism

>Seems a bit stupid to trust them immediately imo, even if their rhetoric changed
Voters don't give a shit about this not now, not ever.

currently listening to press conference

lying continues, what else

~20% incoming for socialists

What?

The FPOe is, however, pretty nationalistic - like Poland or Hungary style right wing nationalistic, anti-immigrant.

Are you conservatives that style of conservatives? Because Kurz will have to also comply with the FPOe demands... and the FPOe truly has not real other demands than to clean up the country by deporting illegals and fighting crime and political Islam.

which ones are /ourguys/? blue?

"how immoral one has to be to authorize something like this" followed by a nice feedback squeak

hollywood style

I'm concerned much more about ÖVP being nationalistic.
Light blue and allegedly Dark blue as well, but less so.

Blue.

And to some extent even the black guys.

waddafuk did I just watch :o

FPO should go further right. It's the only way.

This isn't a vote for presidency, it's closer to voting congress. And while rare there are some independent/3rd party people in your congress aswell.
Our president also needs 50% of the votes, if none reach it in the first round we vote a 2nd time where only the 2 strongest candidates compete against each other.

there are laws against being a literal nazi (read national socialist party member) here. can't go more right than those idiots

Americans use Single Member plurality to vote, since it's on a representative base, not a Proportional Representation system.
It would be a nightmare in Congress to have multiple parties with no region based messages.

Are the Green party popular anywhere? It seems like every country has one and they all have the same message.

They only have one seat in the UK too but we have Comrade Corbyn to deal with instead

>Horror cuisine

Well that ain't wrong.

>Norway
>bad skiers
excuse me? we have THE most medals in history per capita