Which one do you prefer?

[ ] Actual Fantasy worlds
[ ] Travel or re-incarnate to different world (this includes game worlds becoming reality)

Of course is not that you can't enjoy both if the execution of the particular show is correct. I'm asking which is your preference.

Depends on execution.

SAO was shit because Kirito was a god who could kill any boss alone. So OP that not even dying could kill him.

Grimgar, where a group of people struggled to take on a damn goblin as they had zero experience. That's how it ought to be.

>unironically liking grimgor
there is having no experience and then there is being tv commercial levels of no skill

Actual fantasy

Both are fine, travel to a different world has some neat ideas while fantasy is pretty similar, but on the execution part actual fantasy is usually done better than reincarnation

ever watch what happens when a fresh Daesh squad get's plunged to the front?

It ain't pretty.
When it comes to combat "tv level commercial levels of no skill" is in fact just regular, plain ol' "no skill"

Depends on how op is the mc, too much would just spoil the whole series for me.

It doesn't matter, they can both tell a good plot regardless.

Fist kind, second one is just gimmicky and the "novelty" of having real people in a fantasy universe quickly wears out.

I prefer actual fantasy.

Isekai in most cases is not that is bad, its that is pointless, if you can replace the MC from other world with someone from a village of that world (which is most cases in Isekai series) then there is absolutely no point in making it Isekai.

Actual Fantasy.

I don't understand the travel to another world thing. Why make it important if you're not going to use the other world or make it important, aside from make it "Return to muh home." or something.

either one is fine

actual

isekai is just a subgenre built around wish fulfillment

So you can easily setup and explain why a character gets stronger. It's shitty lazy writing because it boils down to "grinded long enough, level up to face boss, season ends buy more LNs"

Danmachi tho

>Best guess for this image: monochrome photography

It's goblin slayer but as far as I know there is only one scan so far

>b-b-but ((((exception))))!
Great, and?

>[ ] Travel or re-incarnate to different world (this includes game worlds becoming reality)
Nips do terrible fantasy settings, they're getting pretty close to mastering the born again settings though.

>goblin slayer has one chapter
>bleach has millions

I can tell I'm going to enjoy the fuck out of goblin slayer.

Just because Danmachi doesn't have the 10 minutes of showing him going to another world doesn't mean it gets to use every shitty SAO and Isekai trope without criticism.

actual fantasy. I dont think there's a single good example of the later

I thought I was the only one that saw it that way.

And its not that I enjoyed Danmachi, I did, but I thought all those asspull skills (fire spell with no cast time, exp x1000%, smite 1 foe in one shot) were disapointing.

I wish there was more shows like pic related where battles are solved with teamwork and cooperation and not just some overpowered snowflake power.

I would like to see more porn in the genre.

Grimgar had that weird actual fantasy world where all the main characters came from the real world. It's kind of sink or swim at the deep end.

If it were actual fantasy characters in an actual fantasy world, their backgrounds would be different. One might have grown up hunting and had been a decent shot before they ever needed to be a human being, or another may have squired for a knight before they ever say combat. Both involve generally more experience and familiarity with weapons than a typical Jap teenager probably has.

>to be a human being

Before they ever needed to shoot a human being, I'm not sure why I typed that.

This is exactly why it feels like an incredibly lazy way of setting up the story in Grimgar, though. Rather than thinking about backgrounds for the characters and determining what kind of skills they may excel in or lack, everyone is just given a black slate because they all came from some other world, and its never really questioned within the story and barely ever mentioned other than a measure of their progress.