Is Anno overrated?

Is Anno overrated?

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Eva is inevitably overrated.

Who?

Maybe, but to me he looks like someone better suited to an audio-related medium rather than a visual one

Why is this allowed?

hes a lovely man

No, he probably doesn't get enough credit if anything.

I think it deserves the praise.
Fanboys are annoying, they always are, but Eva is just top tier and saying it's overrated is just a way of being contrarian in that case.

We get it.
Ideon sucks get over it.

He's built an empire for himself through trolling. It's iffy to call him overrated.

Anno man, The legendary director.
Evangelion?!
Ah, forget it!

No, most people haven't seen a fraction of his work outside the obvious.

This.

Shiki-Jitsu is a lovely movie, everyone should watch it.
And both RE:Cutie Honey and live action Cutie Honey are amazing.

Can't wait for Kinodzilla.

Evangelion had an undeniable impact on anime as a whole, it's one of the five most important anime there are.

Top ten maybe. What are your other four?

What 5-10 anime are more important than NGE?

Anyone who claims Anno to their favorite director is just a Eva fan boy who knows hardly any anime directors.
And this is coming from someone who is a Evangelion fan boy who knows hardly anything about Anime directors

Ashita no Joe, Ace Wo Nerae, Gundam, pre-eva mecha anime in general

i'm a Nadia fanboy

He needs more work to really bring out his talent. He's definitely good, but he's only really made one masterpiece tier anime

>what anime are more important than Eva
>pre-eva mecha anime in general
You can't lump fucking twenty-five years of anime together and then compare them to one series.

No he's done some cool things in a bunch of different areas

Yes.


The new Godzilla looks so fucking terrible.


Never ever allow this man to touch anything again.

I don't know, he looked a pretty fun guy to hang out with in Blue Blazes.

I like to think that Anno actually recreates scenes from Ultraman in public baths

I think he moved out of that phase.
He surely still acts like that when alone in his room. He must be very cute.

Why do you keep spamming this image?

He probably still does it now that he is a bigshot.

Watch Insufficient Direction if you haven't.

How is Ace Wo Nerae important?

sets up much of the general shoujo dynamic you see and female-driven sports anime.
The character archetypes introduced there are still used today.

>Insufficient Direction
I shall, thank you so much. Didn't even know it was a thing.

Sally the Witch, Ashita no Joe, Heidi, Yamato, Gundam, Rose of Versailles, Macross, Urusei Yatsura, Nausicaa, Akira.
I'm not saying Eva's not influential, because it is. I just think it's definitely up for debate as a top fiver.

Your list is severely missing Dragonball

The fact that all of those are older than Eva, pre 1990 even really makes you think.

Yeah, that's because almost everything post-Evangelion is heavily influenced by it.

That's because anime is an established medium now.
There's still some experimentation, but of a completely different kind.
The old shows developed the tools that the new shows are being shaped with.

Dragonball was not influential or good.
It was just a shitty "comedic" Journey to the West knockoff.

>I just think it's definitely up for debate as a top fiver
There's a reason the term "post-eva anime" exists.

Probably has a spot in there too, yeah.

That's just because I was thinking chronologically, plus naturally it's easier to notice the influence of something the further back you go. Lots of important post-Eva series too. Utena, Spirited Away, Azumanga etc.

>The new Godzilla looks so fucking terrible.

wow, serious shit taste.

Dragonball just invented the shounen formula. Regardless of how shit you believe it is everyone and their mother copied it.

Fucking hipsters and their shitty opinions

Gundam is the only show of either of these lists that is unquestionably more influential than or as influential as Eva. Urusei Yatsura, Rose of Versailles, and Ghibli in general are probably on that level too, though I'm not sure if they're above Eva. I would have to be convinced of the others.

Pretty sure it existed beforehand.

What influence did Eva even have, other than more disgusting waifu and otaku pandering?

Maybe if you were alive/conscious back in the 90s, you'd know!

>it's a western pigs try to discern what was influential and why even though they only have a few years of experience with the medium and only thanks to the internet

Fucking Gen Z kiddies.

All the Anime that Eva ripped off

Stop parroting memes.

Everything is a "rip off" of ancient Journey of the Hero tales, anyway. durrrr

Anno said himself Eva is a ripoff.

Enlighten us, oh great one.

Yeah, Anno also said your mom knows how to suck cock dry.

Making anime more about people than big robots.
It invented the beta MC for harem anime for the early 2000s.

>people who watch anime can't spot when an anime uses elements from other shows

ALL OF THEM?

Prove it.

the proper term is "pastiche"

"Influence" means that it stretches to today, retard.

Burden of proof falls on you Evageek.

>Making anime more about people than big robots.
but gundam already did that
but macross already did that

>Making anime more about people than big robots.
>It invented the beta MC for harem anime for the early 2000s.
No.

try being born earlier, the world doesn't revolve about your moeblob shit.

Evangelion wasn't influential, it's boring and for nerds and losers and nobody watched it

>Making anime more about people than big robots.

Oh, so what Mobile Suit Gundam did 20 years before it?

>It invented the beta MC for harem anime for the early 2000s.

That I agree with.

DB is only influential in the shonen genre, and for manga, at that. The anime did nothing to influence animation techniques/storytelling.

moe anime is the only reason anime even exists in this day an age.
eva is to blame, obviously.

Tenchi Muyo predates NGE. And I don't think it's the first.

Wait, you just described anime as a whole

I guess Eva was influential after all.

You mean the moeblob shit that's being influenced by your beloved Evangelion?

OH WAIT

Tenchi is not an archetypal harem protagonist

Regardless of the artistic integrity behind it, it was a shonen that revolved chiefly around shirtless men punching each other somehow have tension and character depth. It lives up to its hype in that narrative aspect alone.

Gundam was always for people with a robot fetish.

Shinji isn't a harem protagonist at all.

Then you're admitting Eva is influential.

I still don't see how Eva is "moeblob", but I guess my eyes and brain aren't Gen Z enough.

>Dragonball just invented the shounen formula.

Wrong, that was Fist of the North Star.

What about Macross?
Music ends wars?

It was Popeye

Are you just going to spout incoherent insults or are you going to make a point?

That's exactly what it did. It also made anime a lot shorter and started what you might call the "deepshit" genre.

>I still don't see how Eva is "moeblob"

Neither did the two you replied to, but since you're such a delusional faggot you completely misread the posts and made yourself look like an even bigger retard.

Actually it was the tale of heracles.

>started what you might call the "deepshit" genre

Haha, no.

You just got triggered because I told it how it is: you're gen Z babies who feel like their opinions are worth shit when you weren't there to see how different anime impacted on the industry.

You just got into anime with shit like K-ON and Tomoko.
you shouldn't be allowed to voice your opinion on things.

>arguing what is more popular and invented the anime genre

>You just got into anime with shit like K-ON and Tomoko.

And how were those influence by Evangelion, Mr. Born in 1995?

Yeah, there was some of it in film but NGE moved it to TV and made it way more popular.

Where is the Eva influence pasta image when you need it. Anyway this thread turned to shit so I just used google instead.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion#Influence_and_legacy

First off, you are making baseless assumptions, I'm probably older than you are, or at least I'd like to think that nobody around my age would seriously act like this.

>you weren't there
Do you understand the implications of this statement?
It invalidates all historical research, journalism as a concept and pretty much all academic research.
Do you even realize you stupid you sound right now?

>Evangelion has influenced numerous subsequent anime series, including Serial Experiments Lain
This is false, as the director didn't even watch Evangelion till halfway through Lain's production

How about the writers and original creators?

Inadvertent influence probably, namely creating a better market for it, showing producers the viability of such a series, etc.

>greater freedom from the constraints of merchandising.

HAHAHAHA

>makes statement
>proceeds to remove any credibility you might have
And spoiler tags does not equal epik surprise box, no matter how much neo-Sup Forums keeps using it that way.

>Inadvertent influence probably
>probably

have you ordered your Official Evangelion Dumbbells yet?
Even you can be as strong as EVA-01 with your new Official Evangelion Dumbbells

I don't have a source or anything, but something like Lain would've been a hard sell before Eva don't you think? I don't get what your beef is here.

I love that guy!
He created my favorite Anime One Piece!

>but something like Lain would've been a hard sell before Eva don't you think?

Not really. Being "deep" has nothing to do with Evangelion. Even Utena, which was far more "deep" with its imagery and symbolism and came out before Lain had nothing to do with Eva.

I want arms as big and strong as Anno's Godzilla!

It's not about being deep, it's about demonstrating the viability of such content. Also, Utena was absolutely inspired by NGE. Anthy couldn't have existed without Rei to precede her.

>Anthy couldn't have existed without Rei to precede her.

Jesus christ, aren't you a newfag.

"Ritsuko Akagi, I truly..."

Dr. Akagi.
I'm NERV

Say what you want dude, doesn't change the facts.