How would banning guns not prevent these kind of mass shootings by a huge amount? Yes, you'd still be able to get illegal weapons, but it would make it this much harder for psychopaths to get their hands on them, adding extra steps and hassle, which would make most think twice about even bothering.
Or would it have no effect on shootings? Would love to hear something to back one or the other side up.
Mkay
Well, considering you already submit your fingerprints to the FBI, pay a $200 tax stamp and have to wait 6-10 months for approval to receive EACH NFA class 3 weapon... what more do you fucking want, commie?
Ban the full auto? Good fucking luck. That would require you to convince at least 20 million hardcore 2A guys to just magically be ok with LEOs having better equipment. Which they already aren't fucking cool With!
Every step forward in the world of gun control is a step closer to civil war.
Because it worked so well for France, huh.
Those aren't the laws in Nevada though.
its easier to get marijuana illegally than legally
You'd still have mass shootings, yes. The difference is the US has multiples bigger ones each year, while normal western countries maybe has one or two at most every other year or even decade.
>civil war
Like you 2A pussies would last ten seconds in a real civil war
Having guns isn't to protect you from the random shooters. It's to protect you from a tyrannical government. The right to guns isn't necessarily to protect the individual, but on a greater scope to protect society and freedom.
gun control doesn't work when you have a hostile zionist-occupied government selling arms to criminal and terrorist groups (like Obama did) and flooding your nation with angry, heavily-armed arabs and niggers (which Merkel continues to do). all gun control does in that case is make the native citizenry easier for the jew's pet murderers to murder them.
meanwhile countries that primarily have the same ethnic group, don't have any problems even if they're well-armed. the swiss are quite polite and the aussies only use their guns to shoot radscorpions and molerats and the occasional rogue Mr. Handy
Are we really still pretending a private militia could take on the US military though?
What? We haven't even had a shooting in almost an entire year last big one was pulse and it was literally this exact same time last year and we haven't had one since. France and most of Europe have been getting pounded by terrorist after terrorist this year.
France is a gun-free zone, you dolt.
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You ever look at a map? Ever take size into account on that one?
Seriously why do people still pretend this is such an absurd thing.
"they have jets and ur a bunch of hicks" You honestly think in a civil war scenario most the military is just gonna say "oh fuck ya lets kill american civilians"
You know as opposed to deserting and fighting the military themselves probably with a lot of there own equipment.
I was being serious though. You'd get massacred.
If the military is going to desert in this civil war and fight for you, then why do YOU need the guns? How are your guns going to stack up against the equipment these deserters would be brining anyway?
>implying the entire military is going to fight in a civil war against the people
>SHALL
It would take a fraction of the military to kick your asses
Considering how hard (or expensive) machine guns are to get in the states already, I'd say this particularly gruesome shooting would be utterly unaffected.
would prolly be harder for kids who plan to go on a schoolshooting to obtain a gun
for older people i doubt it
It's already illegal to buy machine guns you fucking moron
Not in Nevada
>every single military personal/cop/fire fighter/EMT and any other public servicemen will abandon their oath and kill civilians including each others family
You must genuinely be fucking retarded. Sage
Again, if they're going to desert and do the fighting for you then why the fuck do YOU need the guns?
Niggers kill way more than 50 white people every year. Gun ownership is about defending yourself from them, not mass shootings.
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what the ones that did it aren't psychopaths
but rather La RAZA or Muslims.
You slaves are still thinking about this like its a mental health issue and not a they are at war with us issue..
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>You slaves are still thinking about this like its a mental >health issue and not a they are at war with us issue..
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You slaves are still thinking about this like its a mental health issue and not a they are at war with us issue..
Are you new? SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. fuck off you reddit fag
He didn't say they would do the fighting for them. I'll take this as if you're not just b8ing and give you the benefit of the doubt. Many people in the army etc leave and/or refuse to become the boot of the authoritarian overlords/kill their fellow countrymen but they can't necessarily just walk out with shitloads of military equipment. In order to enforce a police state/tyrannical government you need actual patrols of soldiers/cops to do the door breaching and thought policing, and these people can be shot, randomly ambushed etc by normal citizens with guns. Each doorknock and other authoritarian effort becomes much more dangerous and essentially impossible to implement with an armed populace.
Oh okay a 200 year old law says it so that can't ever be changed or updated or anything. Fuck off.
People have a bizarre understanding of the strength and method of operations of the military. It's virtually powerless against any kind of larger scale civilian resistance, *especially* that of their own country.
I wasn't baiting. I get what your saying, sort of. It just seems like an unlikely scenario. But you make some good points.
You might be underage and can’t post here. The whole purpose was for it NOT TO BE CHANGED you low bait faggot. Give the government an inch they’ll take a mile. Now go kill yourself and do the world a favor
>an amendment can't be changed
>an amendment
>amendment
Okay
Federally, those are the requirements for any assault rife and have been since 1986
i think one of your fellow pol autists will do that sooner to you than he does to himself
Hmm. I guess Vietnam/Iraq has shown that. I hadn't considered that.
>shall not be infringed
>be infringed
>infringed
Cool. I agree it's an unlikely scenario, but so goes my vague understanding of the american war for independence, they also utilized a lot of guerilla ambush tactics with ragtag groups of armed civilians.
They probably wrote the 2nd amendment with that in mind, though yeah it'll probably never be used for it's intended purpose in our lifetimes.
>he thinks it would be a conventional war
I certainly hope it won't be. I've always thought any kind of tyrant here would just be taken out in a coup before he could do much damage. All it'd take in a few generals and cabinet secretaries really.
I hope you understand the requirements for changing it. Good luck convincing people to abandon 2A, retard.
I'm not saying it would be easy, I get it takes a lot. But the argument that "it's in the constitution so it can't be changed" is just stupid
Because the army would actually have more support in the scenario that the civilians have guns, idiot.
You guys have bigger trucks inthe US than in Europe, right?
No reason. Just asking for a friend.
Gun control is certainly the answer, Goy
And those are comparatively small countries. Imagine asserting control over almost 4 million sqm and over 300 million people with 1.5 million military personnel (many of which will refuse to fight) and a few thousand tanks and aircraft, while relying on a constant stream of tax money from the very people you are fighting against.
Yeah. You and the other guy have convinced me a bit. I still think there can be a few more regulations though.
The military that can't beat militias in poor, primitive areas wouldn't do better against healthier, wealthier domestic enemies. The army isn't for that. It's also not the enemy of the people it protects.
Again as with the Brigbongs I see this constant error reproduced. The method of execution or KPM is not relevant. The goal of any nation should be to reduce murders period, not focus on methods by which murders are carried out or how fast they can occur.
The single most effective way to reduce the number of murders is to remove blacks and hispanics. White America's murder rate, even if you let them keep all the guns, is comparable to Australia. Shit demographics are the problem.
It is of now practical use to consider how many people can be killed in a given window of time. The focus should be on the peoples involved, their psychology, their mental conditioning, their biology. Focusing on guns is what lazy shitlibs do because they're faggots who don't want to admit that their pet niggers who have a mental age of 13-14 years old are committing more than half the murders, so instead of admitting multiracialism has failed, they focus on token bullshit like product specs.
What about the "product specs" of the fucking biological units you keep demanding we import? How many KPM does a nigger or spic have? Fucking retards.
>tfw almost no crime where I live
>can go on a 3am stroll and not have a single worry
>guns are a priviledge, not a right, dont need them to defend outselves since crime is fuck low, nearly no nigs, catholic country
>can still get a auto rifle, hunting rifles are easy to get and boar is delicious
>restaurants in the middle of the woods sell fresh boar meat, hares and such and its great
I pity mericans and their 2nd amendment desu senpai
>they will think twice because they wont go through the effort
what makes you retards think this? If they are willing to kill 50+ people, they are willing to jump through a few more hoops.
>zero crime where I live
>can go on a 3AM stroll with my gun and only have to worry about bears or mountain lions
>guns are a right
>deer are delicious
>can carry my gun in front of my neighbors and they honk and wave
>real dangerous wilderness is in the city
>nearest city full of niggers and spics, lots of crime
Damn it feels good to be white and live in a white community.
There already are, the focus should be on actual mental health outreach on the shitty antidepressants and sad blogs they have.
> anarchist flag
> wants mote government regulations
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Norwegian public's assault rifle ban didn't stop Breivik from buying one from Eastern European mafia.
Even if you would in some magical realm to be able to create rifleless society, all you need for a mass slaughter is a truck of peace and tolerance or fertilizers and rusty dumping ground metal.
The reason we are free to bear weaponry is not what you think it is.
50 die a week in Chicago no one bats an eye, this happens and everyone loses their minds....
It is illegal to kill people, yet here we are.....
Come and try to take them, I will die before I give up my freedom to kikes.
No one cares what you think moor.
This. Dipshits get caught up on the gamification and high score of the MSM, but it doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that it doesn't matter that much whether 50 are killed in one night or that same 50 are spaced out over a week. All it really speaks to is the skill of the killer, which pretty much is an admission that whites and asians typically get the "high score" mainly because niggers suck at shooting, but on sheer intent alone niggers would kill far more than Chicago if they didn't suck so badly. The kikes at the MSM essentially carved out some fake category of "mass shooters" so they could say "look at how evil white people are" when in reality they're saying "look at how good they are at killing when they want to kill, which is comparatively rare"