Wait your telling me this guy has a PhD, but can't pass a single test in HS

Wait your telling me this guy has a PhD, but can't pass a single test in HS.
What the fuck? Was his PhD in Women's studies?

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It's pretty easy to forget things, especially if you're a shut in for years

Did it say how much time it passed since he got his degree?

3-4 years I think

I forgot everything they taught me as soon as I got the paper and walked out.

Easy to forget in that case if you ask me. Especially if you studied half-assedly. When I was studying I forgot all of swedish in 3 years and were able to speak only really simple sentences
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Same.

You don't forget something you've spent 4 years researching, at least something substantial in STEM.

could be any humanities degree, that sort of useless garbage.

Why would you learn Swedish? I mean it's one thing for me since I live here and have to speak it on a daily basis but why anyone else would care enough to learn is beyond me.

I forgot basically everything I studied in high school. I had a 2 years break between dropping out of my last and going to my current uni too, there were similar high school level tests on the first day and I just failed them all. Especially if you don't expect them they then can be pretty tough.

If he got his PhD 6 years ago, assuming it was for business or something, and anything on that evaluation was related to Chem, History, or Physics than of course he's gonna flunk that. He also could've been storing everything he studied during HS in short term memory

Free University

I imagine he learned something like accounting or buisness. Those don't really carry over to high school as far as I remember.

If you're such a smartypants solve this.

Also, I thought he only got his Master's degree.

There's nothing similar about studying in HS and undergrad and research on an actual problem postgrad.

66%?

Are you sure? I felt the same way but then my little brother asks me for help with his undergrad stuffs and suddenly, when prompted, I remember an awful lot.

That's fair enough. The only other thing I could think of was if you had a job with IKEA management (in which case you'd probably end up in my town) but then you'd probably not forget it for as long as you still have the job.

Then again I don't think half the people at the IKEA offices her know very good Swedish either.

2/3
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Sure, and? Even as an undergrad you specialise in a very specific field, let alone in masters or phd. That's completely different from what perceived as high school knowledge. Like I went to meds before but I still failed the biology test too, because it was asking about layers of leaves and shit, like I'd remember something like that.

You would think being back in school and being tutored he would have picked it back up quick.

Sure but recalling some stuff is not the same as solving math problems correctly.

Point is that it's possible to forget what you're taught in HS and undergrad while it's extremely likely to forget what you've researched for a PhD.
And the fact that you think you specialize in anything during undergrad shows how little you know about actual research.

That's probably because when he visually sees the problem it jogs his memory

They're probably talking about if the problem came up in a real world situation, they wouldn't remember how to solve it initially

It's cause I live in Finland and it's mandatory here for some reason. Never really gave a fuck about it, and neither did like 80% of the students, but for some reason it stays as our second language even though from a historical and all around logical viewpoint it shouldn't be

Well right now I'm doing research on phoeniculum vulgare taxons and I'm doing a bsc so I think that's fairly specific.
It's easy to forget anything, well yeah.

Highschool was basic as fuck in my country. Sure if the questions are memorization kinds you likely won't remember the correct answer, but it shouldn't be too much hassle to refresh memories if you have some time for preparation.

I think you guys are forgetting that the current stem field has to cover a wider range of subjects in HS than 10-20 years ago

He scores in single digits at times and can't pass after several retries. It's one thing to forget and another one to be completely retarded.

It's only really relevant in northern Finland close to the Swedish border since a lot of people speak both languages up there.

>art
>human resources
>music
>mass media
>political science
>any language
There are a lot of useless pieces of paper you can get which won't help you be any better at gened then you were when you were in high school.

I dunno I already feel like it takes 5 times as much to learn anything than it was in high school, and I'm only 23 so as 28 I can see it being difficult to learn things. Especially if they're different from what he learned in hs, which possible considering that it was a decade ago for him.

Pretty much yeah. I live in southern Finland and I've never in my life heard people speak Swedish here

First, like many anons have said here, many fields don't utilize and HS knowledge at all.
Second, iirc they explicitly state he was in grad school for 2 years. It's safe to assume he has a Master's, not a PhD.

I'm currently studying for my MCAT, realizing that a lot of the things I learned in high school Algebra and PreCal now elude me.

If I went into a high school test thinking I could score an easy A without studying, I'd almost certainly be in the same if not similar condition.

Such as?

Math I can understand, as he clearly got a degree on Bussines or something that only requires Excel baby math.

However, he also failed the Japanese exams HARD, now how does that even happen? An adult with a masters shouldn't really fail an exam that test high school level stuff.

I feel the exact opposite. Like, you're way more structured and versed in how to learn effectively at adult age, that whatever brain capacity is decreased, the maturity makes up for it.

>STEM
I feel bad for all the people that got sucked into this meme. If you want to be an engineer, just go under an engineering program. Stay undecided until your GPA is high enough to go into engineering, and take some science classes on the side.

Correct, he took some useless degree that's just memorizing stuff. You never forget math.

There's still a difference between undergrad research and postgraduate research.

I've completely forgotten any kind of advanced math.

Never had to use it.

You do realize what the E stands for, right?

What do you count as advanced math? Probably none of things out of high school.

This is what bothered me as well. Math is one thing, but him repeatedly failing Japanese or even English makes zero sense.

Don't expect an engineer to actually do his research before appointing his retarded opinions.

I forgot both HS level math and anything above that.

Literally never had any use for it whatsoever so it's very easy to forget

You'd be amazed by the number of teachers we certify who couldn't pass 8th Grade Math.

Cmon, if anything math is more about learning structures, meaning you're likely to keep the basic knowledge even if you forget some individual parts. Second/third language is the thing you're likely to forget the fastest unless you use it, because most of the time it's pure memorization.

>you think you specialize in anything during undergrad shows how little you know about actual research
I guess it depends on the uni but here everyone specialises at pretty specific things in the 2nd year. So that statement just doesn't seem right to me.
There's probably some differences but I haven't done postgraduate research yet so I couldn't say. But still undergrad research and studies are already miles more specialised than hs.

Yes, and you do realize that studying that does not qualify you as an engineer? You cannot apply for a job as a mechanical engineer, nor do you have the qualifications of a person that went into engineering?

It's all individual. I have a much easier time remembering languages than I do math.

THIS, the MC is clearly retarded and bought his PhD from ebay at 60% disscount alongside a dildo

But HS level math doesn't even have any memorization. You just use logic to solve things.

That's quite a good deal, I'd say

Well yeah but studying is still way harder. And when you're at a situation where you're just expected to brute force studies by brain power and not have much room for efficiency or structures then it gets pretty bad. My last semester was like that too and I felt like I'd collapse at any second.

Not him, but what? You think people are just born knowing the quadratic formula or something? It's memorized, of course it is.

The only thing I remember from high school is the quadratic formula to be honest. But anything about geometry or the rest of the algebra is just, blank space.

No. It depends on the subject. In mathematics undergrad research consists of either doing gruntwork for the prof or, if you're truly smart, doing applications of mathematics in the forefront of research. You cannot hope to study new mathematics after undergrad training. There's a reason why you still have to take so many grad courses as a math grad.

It's like all the fucking useless math they make us learn in highschool and then forget in college.

You can deduct quadratic formula, even then it's memorizing like a decent number of formulas to ace everything and you can do fairly decent if you don't, even if you aren't at the level of being able to deduce quadratic formula yourself on the sheet.

Japanese is his first language, not his second or third. English may be his second, but it should still come in handy from time to time as a salaryman. Makes little sense that he would score THAT low.

As for math, I think you may be forgetting how high school math is taught. It's not about learning the logic, it's about learning which tricks to use for specific problems. I.e. learning how to solve quadratic equations with specific coefficients quickly, learning which variables to substitute for which other variables in integrals, learning which sides to push which terms of the equation to before squaring if needed, etc. It's almost purely practice and memorization, very little pure logic.

Plus it's still quite possible to forget real math as well, if you forget the basic theorems and don't practice it a long time. My mom has a bachelor's in math and supposedly she did very well at the time, but she hasn't used it pretty much at all for the last 40 years. I'm not sure she could solve a high school math test right now (though she probably wouldn't fail multiple times in a row).

Arata got out of school and became a NEET so I assume he had a masters and never finished his PhD.

Math is pretty easy to forget. If you don't genuinely understand math, it is basically stores in your short term memory. You remember enough to pass tests but in the long term you'll forget it right away.

Some people are logically inclined while other people are more creatively inclined. I have a much harder time remembering anything related to math compared to something like music, languages or history.

Especially since I have little interest and need for math in my daily life, compared to history which I care a lot more about.

Wrong. Its 50%. Its asking whats the probability of it being the Ika Musume coin, not the probability of it being heads.

Yeah math fucked me real hard up the asshole im still sore after all this years because i struggled to put up and properly use formulas, but biology, chemistry and other languages were easy because they just required me to remember what i read.

Even in highschool I failed second grade math. Had to retake it my third year.

Didn't have that problem with any other subject, only math.

50% because all you know is that se flipped a coin and it landed heads. It could be either coin, so 1/2

Wrong, it's 2/3rds.

There are three heads total. Two of them belong to the Ika Musume coin. Given that she landed heads, there is therefore a 2/3rds chance that it came from the Ika coin.
It's basic probability.

When did it say he has a PhD? He has a regular grad degree as far as I know.

Dunno never done math. I'm working under a prof too but he told me that if I have any new ideas I wanna try or experiment then go for it (of course me being a lazy cunt I just wanna get done with it).
And I don't think it was specified if Kaizaki had a maths degree or not.

>you can deduct
"Can" and "do" are different. You are taught it by memorization as a kid, and if you're the kind of person who never uses math in their daily life and has forgotten their basic high school stuff, you likely aren't going to be able to deduct it.

"Japanese" I'm pretty sure refers to literature. And I don't fucking remember anything about literature, only that it was bullshit where you just had to figure out what the teacher likes to hear and write that.

>and if you're the kind of person who never uses math in their daily life and has forgotten their basic high school stuff, you likely aren't going to be able to deduct it.
Yeah well that's the thing. If the character in OP studied in some field requiring math to Ph.D level then it should be easy as fuck.

can a dropped out carpenteer solve calculus if I study hard or it will be impossible now?

I am 27 btw

We have different backgrounds. It's not uncommon for a bio, say, undergrad to have good and working new ideas but it's extremely rare in maths, say, since an undergrad is pretty much like a baby that just stumbled out into the world. And it's because of the amount of mental work you put in for a math PhD that I claimed that you don't easily forget things you research in related areas.

>I've completely forgotten any kind of advanced math.
>Never had to use it.

Same, I've completely forgotten all math. I never knew anything advanced in the first place, I didn't even pass HS math. I recently found out that I I don't even remember how to do the addition and subtraction thing where you carry number, although I could probably work it out from snippets of memory if I sat there for a while.

I haven't had to use any math in nearly a decade.

Alternative proof if that wasn't convincing enough:

Define event A as the coin being the Ika Musume coin. Event B as landing a heads.

The chance of landing a landing a heads given the coin is the Ika Musume coin is
P(B|A) = 1.
The chance of flipping the Ika coin without knowing anything else is
P(A) = 1/2
The chance of getting heads without knowing anyhing else is
P(B) = 3/4
(because there are 3 heads and 1 tail total on both coins, each with equal probability).

Therefore by the Bayes theorem the chance of A given B, that is the chance of the coin being the Ika Musume coin given that she got heads, is
P(A|B) = P(B|A) P(A) / P(B)
= (1/2) / (3/4)
= 4/6
= 2/3

Been 6 years for me, so yeah, I don't remember jack shit.

Calculus is babby food. Don't study hard, learn to apply.

>PhD
He is only a college graduate mate. Also I also forgot any math I've learned at school especially in ninth grade. Fuck if I remember that shit, I never had to use it in my jobs.

It's an elite prep school. He came from a pleb school, it's specified that it's impressive he even managed to pass anything at all.

Possible, but once you are over 20+ years, learning stuff like advanced maths is really hard if you were shit at school.

Ignorance is bliss so stay that way.

I mean, math sounds fun and all but it sounds like a lot of work and I don't know what's your prospect for the future. I went into agriculture because I figured that oh well as long as people eat there'll be jobs somewhere.
>you don't easily forget things you research in related areas
Well I don't know how specific math areas are but I figure it's more specific than hs math. Also yeah I don't think it was said that he has a math phd, only that he was 2 years in graduate school.

He went to college, had a job and now survived with a part-time job. He wasn't a NEET

the questions isn't asking what the chances of flipping heads are. it's asking which coin it is after the fact, so it doesn't add any information.

think about it this way: Eiko then flips the other coin and it also lands heads, what are the chances that you'd be able to pick out the Ika's coin?

You can do what I did and do both community college classes and khan academy/other online stuff.

CC has a bad stigma, but if there's one nearby I guarantee they have a math lab that's probably underused by the student body and teachers just waiting for someone to stop by their offices. For me the teachers were very willing to let me take old tests for practice during their office hours. It was a great way to check if KA and classes were working.

>about learning structures
That's probably why I could never get it, unless the structure was my own and I created it based on my process of though or it happened to be one that my slotted in to it then it was incomprehensible to me. I've only began to think that might be the case after I started working with and for other people in non-achedemic based jobs. I would always have trouble understand the way people went about things, it would stress me out trying to follow their planning. Unless I could organize things myself, in my own way and independent of other people I'd constantly fuck up.

I'm probably an actual autist but whatever.

And the answer I gave you wasn't the odds of flipping heads, it was the odds that the coin that was flipped was the Ika Musume coin GIVEN that she flipped heads. Read more closely and google the Bayes theorem.

>Eiko then flips the other coin and it also lands heads, what are the chances that you'd be able to pick out the Ika's coin?

50%, but that's an entirely different question. The reason that they're indistinguishable in your modified question is that you're assuming that both coins landed heads. However, one coin has a higher chance of landing heads than the other, and that information gets lost in your question since you assume a given result.

Seriously (and no offense meant): probability can be a very difficult thing to grasp, and sometimes incredibly counter-intuitive. Just read about the Monty Hall problem. The best way to work these things out is by doing the math in an orderly fashion, just like in . Once you understand that there will be no issue.

I can easily transition into quantum computing or quant analyst if I have to. Having coding experience on top of actual working problem solving skills makes you pretty much in-unemployable.
Also once we automize the entirety of agriculture you will be out of a job so I'm not sure why you think that's such a safe area.

I did get an engineering degree
Didn't get me a job like my parents professor and guidance consular said it would now I assemble plastic parts for shit pay at a factory trying to pay off student loans so I completely regret ever going to school.
Should have gotten a job or gone to trade school right out of high school

>it's asking which coin it is after the fact, so it doesn't add any information.

This is exactly where you're wrong. The fact that she landed heads IS added information, even if intuitively it doesn't seem like it.

Well if you say so, not that I know where people like that work but okay.
>the entirety of agriculture
Ah dude unless we have human level androids that's not really a concern. Also you might think that it's some nigger work but even a small plot and it's harvest have millions in value, so there's constant demand for trained professionals who know about plant cultivation.

One of the main issue with the coin toss problem is that the concept of time, and event having occurred or not, clash with everyday intuition regarding probability. I mean strictly speaking, if we're talking about a specific event that has already occurred, it makes no sense to ask the probability of it occurring, because there's no chance, it has occurred. Only when you express it like "Given infinite repetition of situation X, what is the outcome Y" does it make sense to think like that. And that sort of reasoning isn't always what people think of when they say probability.

I'm well aware of this issue.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_interpretations
is an interesting read. I'm not a fan of the frequentist interpretation myself, although it still seems more reasonable to me than subjectivist interpretations.

And you are too fucking dumb to use the catalog. You are worse than HS students.

You can forget a language if you don't use it long enough.

what kind of engineering did you study?

>everything must be contained in a general
the op is specific and is a valid discussion topic that doesn't necessarily have to be just about the anime it references, as proved by the other 98 replies.