hopefully pol can come together and solves a few? despite all of our difference and political views i think we can still come together and do some good and maybe get to the bottom of some of this instead of arguing about gun laws and bullshit. no autism please.
there are a few things i find very strange about last night and ill begin to list them now
1) his brother helped him move recently and said he had no automatic guns. when and where did he get the weapons and ammo? usually people like him do not have any way to obtain illegal arms.
2)was he alone in this? seeing as he was able to get illegal machine guns I'd want to say probably not.. if this was actually organized terrorism whos responsible? antifa? they don't seem to bothered about what happened last night.
3) reports say he killed himself before police arrived. though this isn't unbelievable I heard that he stopped shooting the moment police pinpointed his location. why not keep shooting with all the ammo he had until they were at the door?
4) what are the chances the body found in the hotel room was another victim? shooter or shooters breaks into room.. kills him and sets it up as a suicide. sets up guns and ammo and unloads on the crowd for 5-15mins.. gets notified police are coming and flees the scene leaving the body looking like he killed himself.
5) could this have been a false flag? why? what is the end goal?
if anyone has info please post it here.. maybe we can bring it all together and come to a conclusion.
that is what i read but perhaps it was wrong.. alot of misinformation is out right now.
Juan Reyes
assuming the swat team didn't respond in time the local police probably went in guns blazing because they were scared shitless
Sebastian Ross
The fact that nobody's been able to establish a motive is really freaking me out. I don't have time to research anything but I will be lurking this thread so here's a bump.
Luis Cox
yeah im starting to think he was set up.. or maybe even mk ultra is real lol.
Dominic Bell
Police radio from last night said two shooters were “confirmed”. The second shooter was on the 29th floor. There were two broken windows on or near these two floors. There was a black van that sped away at high speed. This was all from radio reports.
He was not a lone wolf, there is almost never such thing as a lone wolf. The lone wolf is the public-facing story. One man on the 32nd floor 1,000 ft away shooting 600 people?!? Believe whatever you want I guess
Asher Sanchez
>4) what are the chances the body found in the hotel room was another victim? >shooter or shooters breaks into room.. kills him and sets it up as a suicide. sets up guns and ammo and unloads on the crowd for 5-15mins.. gets notified police are coming and flees the scene leaving the body looking like he killed himself. This is an interesting proposal. How do they know the guy was the shooter? I could believe he was just some random guy who happened to be staying there and the real shooter fled the scene but maybe not with the cameras and shit.
Kayden Allen
HIGH CHANCE THE BROTHER KNOWS MORE AND IS HIDING THE TRUTH SO HE IS NOT CHARGED.
LOOK AT SETH'S BROTHER, SAME SHIT THERE TOO. DON'T LET PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR NEAR SETH'S LAPTOP OR PHONE, ETC..
Jace Barnes
>emptiness Maybe that is exactly the motive..
Carter Morgan
wtf is up with the bald Zuckerburg in civvies and naked nigger just hanging out?
How odd.
Kayden Watson
if the real shooter left inconspicuously maybe he just walked right out any more info on this black van.. and did they give an explination for the 2 busted windows? i did see that photo
Jonathan Russell
residue on hands from firing over 600 rounds???? jesus...
Aiden Clark
Maybe but there could be cameras outside his room right?
>giving people shit for asking for evidence
Matthew Johnson
source or are u speculating? i doubt they'd release these kind of details.
Jonathan Rogers
I'm down. What can I do? I'm new.
Dominic King
>giving people shit for asking for evidence Here's the thing: there's being open minded, and then there's assuming conspiracy and finding whatever sticks to justify that. If a report came out tomorrow that answered all of the questions in OP, would you say >Hmm, makes sense. Guess he did it. or >Obviously they're covering something up
Jacob Gray
but what if the real shooter had gloves on and put the gloves on the fake shooter?
that is true.. there would def be some footage considering the hotel.
Adam Jones
pol couldn't find its collective arse with both hands and a guidebook called "Arse-finding for Dummies", let alone solve something like this
Connor Watson
I just asked how they know he did it I didn't say anything else.
I've never seen a tragedy so QUICKLY and so SHAMELESSLY politicized. Makes me sad to be a Jew tbhon.
Mason Rodriguez
Gunpowder residue can be easily planted,cant be? Im more interested in why the casino didnt notify the exact room number after the windows broke,there supposed to be a warning going off when a window is broken.
Isaiah Adams
He had no automatic weapons. >bump firing It seems the most likely since crank trigger mechanism discovery has not been disclosed.
Samuel Ortiz
He bought at least 3 guns legally from his local store. We don't know yet what other guns he had. They should just release cctv to end the conspiracy talk. There are cameras EVERYWHERE that will tell the full story. If they don't release it I find that highly suspicious
Carson Wright
i agree.. depending how the information flows out over the next days will be telling.
Colton Sullivan
That's just the nature of the news cycle these days. You have to get it out early. If it comes out tomorrow it will get a fraction of the views
Isaiah Jenkins
In addition, fox news is reporting now that he had nitro glicearin (explosive material) in his car and or 3 houses in addition to many more weapons. This was a well thought out planned event.
There are many things that they need to tell us. Like his computer history, Vegas camera info, and his phone contacts. Knowing our government these facts won't be released for awhile if ever though.
Kinda looking like an Oswald type of situation though. Only time will tell.
Daniel Walker
>pictures of him at alt-left protests The reason the media is pushing the narrative of "no discernible reasons" is because it will destroy the liberal narrative pushing forth the alt-right as being the progenitors of violence.
Remember how hard a time they had admitting that the guy who shot the republican congressmen at the softball game did it because he was a salty as fuck liberal?
Justin Robinson
>32nd Floor >across from the Pyramid of Luxor (Lux = Light = Lucifer)
Brody Phillips
FBI Source: Stephen Paddock Found With Antifa Literature
The two windows are broken because the shooter placed multiple rifles by either of them for different vantage points and to cut down on reload time
Hunter Bailey
Cops laying on the ground when they're supposed to be working, SMDH
Liam Cruz
got any of the pictures?
interesting.. disturbing.. or just a coincidence
Jason Phillips
wow look at all these great sources
Tyler Flores
>usually people like him do not have any way to obtain illegal arms
People with money in the SouthWest? Are you fucking retarded?
Luis Reed
Plans within plans.....this is some Joker level shit
Ayden Rogers
good post thanks.
Ian Cook
Here you go.
As much as I like Fox News there was once upon a time that they jumped on Sup Forums and labelled us "hackers on steroids" and tried to link us with stock footage of a van blowing up. >Fox News was once Faux News and "Fair and Balanced" became a meme >newfags not knowing the history of Sup Forums
Mason Torres
how much money did he have? you still need to know ppl to get ur hands on stuff like this. so if he did know people.. who were they?
Gabriel Walker
I was listening to the scanners all night. There were more gunshots in the background AFTER the shooter was killed. I also remember them attempting to find a suspect on the 4th floor. I don't necessarily think it's a conspiracy, but I definitely think there had to of been at least one other shooter.
Brandon Roberts
how was he able to get the perfect room. rooms? or did he bust into another person room to get the angles.
Angel Rogers
>no motives >no history, dude apparently hasn't even had a parking ticket. he's a fucking ghost >clean slate guy somehow got ahold of illegal firearms. money =/= connections >conflicting police reports >lots of freemason imagery/numbers
Something is up here lads and I think it's more than just media fuckery.
Carson Barnes
fuck, didn't mean to reply to my own post
Nathaniel Jenkins
>rifle shoots 500m at night
are we just ignoring how guns literally cannot shoot that far because of bullet drop?
this entire attack is a garbage msm false flag.
Sebastian Robinson
i dunno.. how can the do a false flag at a concert with 20,000 witnesses?
Cooper Stewart
Multi millionaire according to the brother
Nolan Bailey
Either a corner suite or adjoining rooms.
Juan Mitchell
Uhh he literally just sprayed full auto into a tiny area packed with people. You don't need to be accurate.
Joseph Hill
It can, but not with any real accuracy.
Camden Cox
I just want to say that everything else aside, I'm proud of my city for once. Every blood donation place was packed with people trying to donate, everyone I saw today was nice to each other and asking if you were ok. Shame it takes something like this for it to happen.
Local security tried coming in, he shot through the door and got the officer in the leg.
Michael Bennett
I believe he was shooting an M249 SAW. It has an effective range of about 800 meters. The shooter was about 400 meters away. Easy pickins.
Julian Carter
You're a fucking idiot. So tired of the SAW type comments. He was firing with a fucking crank trigger. Belt fed weapons don't fucking change their firing cadance.
Stop telling people what you think you know because you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground
Colton Evans
Why is everyone freaking out about "illegal" weapons? You could file down a full auto seer for an AR in hours without power tools.
Isaac James
They can, but the only thing you're going to hit is the broad side of a barn. You know, like a very, very large crowd.
Thomas Phillips
The retards really come out in full force after these kinds of things, don't they?
William Peterson
my bets are on MK ultra used to push gun control
Christian Lee
Video curculating showing muzzle flash from 4th floor
Angel Wright
I'm not really buying the "dude just snapped" theory. Everything is just too convoluted that "He just snapped" sound like another bullshit conspiracy theory used to just settle the mind.
Nolan Jones
Learn to argue without just insulting the person. How do you explain the sustained fire? No way a shitty drum magazine performed that well and took that long to reload a new one. I'm sticking with my belt fed theory.
Lucas Campbell
What happened to the lady who told people at the concert that "you are all going to die tonight"?. Everyone assumed that the lady was the shooters wife, but apparently she is in the Philippines.
Jose Lopez
1)He might have had connections with the mob/cartels as Vegas a hub for traffickers.
2)A lone gunman. Probably with history of depression.
3)Good question. He should've emptied all the rounds until the cops killed him.
4) 0%
5) 100% false flag to distract from other serious happenings.
Brayden Price
i dont believe the push for gun control narrative.. if they wanted more gun control it would have been done by now.. some ppl in the government want it.. and i think it is needed .. but nra and manufactures line the pockets of to many people for that to ever be an agenda.
Parker Robinson
Still trying to come up with a motive myself.
>No cartel/mob/gang is going to want someone indiscriminately firing into a crowd of innocents >No religious motive >No nationalist motive >No apparent commie/anarchist motive >Old as fuck and not a societal reject with nothing to live for >No social media presence. No note/manifesto >No history of drugs or other substance abuse >Obviously premeditated as he stocked up on guns and had the hotel for a few days
Seems like he went after the largest gathering of people that was planned once he had his weapon setup ready to go. Right now I am just pegging him as some twisted fuck that wanted to cause as much harm as he could before he died.
Or if you like conspiracies, this would be a prime suspect for an MK Ultra project
Nicholas Bell
It'd be so easy for some spooks to set this up. They choose their 'gunman', make him shoot innocent people at gunpoint or under threat or alternatively kill him and set it up as it looking like he did it himself with the appropriate evidence, then leave in the confusion like a couple of civvies.
The whole "he snapped lol" thing is bullshit.
Adrian Martinez
Here's what likely happened.
Another group committed the shooting. The smoking gun for me was that Instagram Chad's video that's been going 4chin around that shows muzzle flash at a totally different part of the building than the room with the broken windows that's been going around MSM. We don't know who this group could be, but based on police scanner evidence ( ) it looks like it was definitely a group of people. I don't want to guess about who they were working for -- that would need further investigation.
If this group is able to pull this off, they're able to fake a suicide, easy.
