What's with the rise in alt-right users suddenly opposing democracy?

This type of shit is cringeworthy and only feeds into the slander we get from the left as "fascists".

That's already on top of all the "Nazi" accusations (even though 95% are inaccurate) because a handful of you can't let go of your Hitler/NatSoc fantasies.

A bunch of pudgy edgelord faggots like this @occdissent / Hunter Wallace guy only do more harm than good.

When will some of you realize that going full blown far-right wing, putting parentheses around every little, Nazi larping and now opposing Western democracy --- is not going to get us anywhere.

The more people spreading pro-white views and facts the way Jared Taylor does, for example, the better.

The West was perfectly fine living under democracy for the longest time. That's clearly not the fucking issue.

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Democracy becomes more and more diluted with the ideology of the minorities. It's already become too late for white nationalism to come about through democratic means.

"Democracy" = Leftist Ideals, Marxism.

Because the United States has always been a republic. Most of the framers spoke out against democracy and had negative opinions on it

>Suddenly
Why are you so uninformed? You are aware of the Dark Enlightenment that preceded this retarded MAGApede bullshit you idolize so much? No? Fresh off the boat from R*ddit?

because nearly every democratic candidate is a status quo useless idiot if not an outright establishment shill

i'm fine with democracy, i think most of the people you think are complaining about democracy would be fine with democracy if they had ever experienced it. its not democracy when all the people you can vote for are on the same side now is it?

also, america is supposed to be a republic, which is superior to democracy. but they lost sight of that when their government became centralized and the vision of the founding fathers for a government ruled not by man but by a a paper document of infallible principle was replaced with dumbed down fake modern democracy.

If you can't argue against democracy you aren't redpilled enough.

You have a lot to learn

All you need to know about democracy:

youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E

nazis and fascists are unknowingly shilling for a centralized authoritarian government that will be inevitably controlled and ran by the global elite who have controlled and subverted governments for decades if not centuries.

they are pawns of the establishment. working for their own enemy to create a more powerful government for our dear leaders to rule over us with.

we need a decentralized republic where the government is as small as it possibly can be to reduce the corrupting influence and power of the global elite. we don't need big government fascism

Because he realizes only sane people should be allowed to vote, or in other words, democracy is flawed because it allows insane people to have a voice.

>not a single mention of Jews ITT
Whew sage.

Because democracy is mob rule and mobs often make bad choices. The west is failing and democracy is making us fail. Some limited democracy might be fine, like only land owners voting or people who pay more taxes than they receive in benefits. The problems with democracy REALLY show up in a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. Minorities will be voting against white interests for the foreseeable future, thus it must be stopped. It's as simple as that. Give fascism a chance.

so keep in mind many of these nazis are outright shills and some perhaps even bots and most of the rest are useful idiots and some are smart people who went down the wrong path of ideas which is understandable because the propaganda of the enemy is subtle and constant and can make a person think thoughts that are not their own. we are being manipulated by the best and theres no shame in being wrong sometimes.

please stop being a fascist, i know you're smart enough to see a trap you've been falling into once it's been pointed out to you. we all fuck up sometimes. come home to the impossible flavour of your own completion, come home to shilling for smaller government

The only alt-right that can do more than meme is anti-democratic. It went from brilliant take-down of liberal democracy to anti-semitic memes.

Democracy has coincided with leftism and the demographic smothering of native Europeans everywhere. By their fruits you shall know them.

Democracy itself is a leftwing platform.

>democracy

yeah well if you could hire top puppets from all the races or from a single race you've brainwashed and trained for the role which would you choose? jews are useful tools and scapegoats for the top jew power elites. but blaming all jews is exactly what they want, still it's hard to argue with how many jews there are there in the media and banking, that is a legitimate observation that often leads to some overly broad conclusions.

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Democracy as it stands right now is a sham that allows stupid people to decide things for the whole country. I'm not opposed to democracy per say but I think voting rights should be merit-based.

> implying you live in a democracy

Calling a republic a democracy is the best example of Doublespeak outside the book 1984

Sup Forums was in front of the wave for a time. But now it has reached the mainstream, there's a lot of scummy people jumping on it

That's why Sup Forums isn't so funny lately. Ideologues aren't so humorous.

Styx pls go.

the stupid people aren't deciding anything, that would be an accurate complaint if it was representative of the current state of affairs. democracy is a smoke and mirrors show to give the general public the illusion that they're in control. the public is not in control and the choices they have to vote for are all working together against the public. usually.

it's a global establishment oligarchy not democracy

the end game is for everyone to lose their minds

>Freedom means freedom to ruin a nation and a people, if that's what you want, guys!

Nope, that is where you are wrong. Some things people are free to do is harmful to society and should be restricted. I only care about results and effects, not about ideology.

I wish. Let's get the party started already.

>The West was perfectly fine living under democracy for the longest time. That's clearly not the fucking issue.
That was all before mass media and before social engineering became an exact science. Democracy is not a safeguard against tyranny any more, the average joe blow is like putty in the hands of media.

it's regression to the mean. In a democratic world, the average, fat-faced, pudgy-bodied, middling-wage loser is totally determining the direction of society.
And of course, they want a nice, comfortable, non-threatening world. They don't understand challenge, or higher ideals, or anything. The average shlub is not a leader.

Basically in the modern form of democracy, large media machines rule. The person who wins is the one that can spend the most money convincing. Just look at some of these campaign commercials, it's like they're targeted towards 6 year olds with down syndrome.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wo_Ejfc5hW8

This is how your elections are being decided.
The final result is, whoever sells themselves out the hardest to moneyed interests almost always wins. These moneyed interests almost never have the interests of the people at heart. You actually have foreign nations such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, China....etc with massive lobbying organizations on capital hill getting laws passed that benefit their own countries at our expense.

It's rule-by-the-highest-bidder.
In reality, society is controlled by an elite core. This is the way it's been since the dawn of human civilization. Your objective shouldn't be to eliminate this dynamic, it should be to generate your own elites that advocate for, and champion your people's interest. This is how winning is actually done

1)The right is reactionary

The US was created to be a republic, not a democracy. Democracy is what caused the Greeks to fuck up. Socrates is well known for discrediting democracy saying "if you were to vote on who would be the captain of a ship, would you want people who had no knowledge of sailing to be voting?" He also mentioned how demagogues would eventually be the downfall of the Greek city states, which is what happened to Athens.

Fascism, regardless of the autistic shit we are told from liberal acedmia, is based on the Natural order of things and the Roman Empire, especially under ceaser. Matter of fact, that's where the name fascism comes from.

Now, look at it like this. votes can easily be persuaded by honey dicking and saying what people want to hear. Democracy could work to an extent, but a true democracy will only result in a crashing ship.

I guess you're kinda right about that, it's more that a small selection of swing voters are pandered to by politicians, so it's these people who end up deciding who gets into office. So as a result a lot of people just don't end up getting represented at all.

Look where it got your pathethic norway ass:
You argue with murricans on a korean imageboard typing on a china-maufactured pc.
Stop bitching, loser, democracy ain't all that bad.
If it was for people like you norway would still be a shithole where tribes only visit the next village to pillage and rape.

The right and facism deal with order to push society forward. The left which is commumist and anarcist group together to fight the right. If they win the commies will turn on the anarcists to regain control.

This guy gets it

You cucks are being used by Russian shills. They want to radicalize you neckbeard teens to create more division. Wake the fuck up.

Not all men are equal and worth the same 1 vote.

Meritocracy is the future. Hell, even monarchy would be better than (((democracy))).

liberal democracy a shit, conservative republic a best

The "West" has gone downhill ever since it turned democratic. That's clearly the fucking issue.

and a system where our own elites are not replaced and even if they are they inherit a government that is so decentralized and minimilistic that they barely have the power to ruin anything and then they get voted out and replaced in a true republic system but not in the purely democratic sense.

or fasicism, which the elites will subvert at some point. period. but likely they will set up the fascism themselves using the help of the people who hate them the most. because that's good power strategy

we oppose a liberal democracy you.

Go shill on plebbit, cum stain.

fascism and a republic are not the same thing, the original vision of the founding fathers was for a republic but the vision was against fascism

that vision was corrupted but must be returned to with safeguards in place to prevent another gradual decades long subversion process. safeguards such as heavy decentralization as originally intended but this time never united the way it eventually was and also a constitution that can no longer be altered or ammended as the highest law in the land, rather then have the highest law being some corruptible imperfect administration of humans.

>IT'S DE RUUUSHHHHIIIIIINNNNNNNNS!!!!111

Oh fuck off, Hillary. Don't you have guns to grab right now?

Don't worry about it, goyim.

we oppose any democracy

So why is there no outrage when liberals cry foul when a democratic vote goes against them? I seem to recall numerous anti-democratic sentiments from the left after Brexit and Trump and no one batted an eye. Don't even get me started on the working class bashing from self-proclaimed leftists.

Oh wait, sorry, I forgot that they are the "good guys" and we are the "bad ones" so only people with their beliefs and urban upbringing deserve the vote. At least the right is open in its disdain for democacy and egalitarianism, the left (as per usual) show themselves as hypocritical and without a shred of selfawareness.

Shitcunt.

you only have a democratic system because the people in charge of the world have decided this is the way they want it.

They still rule across the board. Don't be naive.
Not even talking in a conspiratorial way here. It's just a statement of fact, that if the movers and shakers wanted a monarchy again, that's what we'd have in 20 years.

This is the way of things. Right now, we have a system built upon a fantasy.

When we had a democracy that.
>limited the votes to white men who aren't vagrants
>most people were self employed
>there were strong communities
>society wasn't lead by media, which is run by jews
Things were fine.
But we don't anymore.
We have a 60% white population with the other 40% doing their best to decrease that.
We have jews freely pushing lies in media, buying out politicians, and using media and law to attack anyone that points out these lies.
We have most people working for large corporations, who enforce speech codes, and have rules from above that are anti-white male.

It's clearly one of the issues.

Democracy is garbage. USA went to shit when democracy was introduced. And same goes for Jews. People who call themselves "alt right" aren't running for office, so why should they bother denying the truth for pr faggotry?

>muh PR

Yes, the ultimate goal is to admit that society is hierachical and no amount of sugar coating will fix this. Hierachy should be promoted, BUT, that hierachy should be made to support the whole existence of the nation and to ensure a safe and prosperous future. Benevolent Authoritarianism.

>The West was perfectly fine living under democracy for the longest time.
back when women and niggers couldn't vote
now they can and suddenly the world is worse

>decentralised
>small government
>reduce the corrupting influence and power of the global elite

Only whites want these things. Productive whites, married whites, working male whites. You can't have these things, while having unmarried women and non-whites voting. If you want your democracy to be successful you have to harshly restrict the franchise.

>"people should have a real control over their country and decisions made there"
y'all sound like a bunch of commies
what are you going to say next?
seize the means of production?

democracy only works in ethnostates

the problem is it also lets groups gather who seek to control that democracy for their own interests. this can be for monetary interests (corruption, banks), destabilization (marxism, progressive critical theory), censorship etc.

subversion is the greatest enemy of democracy, and the cure is either fascism (military removal), reactionary (we have to go back) or aggressive libertarianism (muh helicopters)

This guy gets it. Just take some time out of your shitposting one day to read some literature from the modern russian orthodox church. It's almost verbatim what i see on this board constantly. Anti minority, anti "degeneracy" perpetuated by american "liberalism" and western elites, globalists, globalists, globalists, anti immigrant, globalists, america does it too, globalists, with a twist of antisemitism, and did i mention demonic globalists. Seriously, wake the fuck up

>Russians are manipulating us white men into becomes nazis to take back control of our nation and put the mongrels in their place.
>this is supposed to be a bad thing

You need to work on your propaganda schlomo.

Democracy has two major problems.
1) regression to the mean. Voting is great when intelligent, informed citizens do it, but the majority of people are neither intelligent, nor informed. First it may be white males over 25 who own land that can vote. Then white males over 25. Then white males over 18. Then all men over 18. Then all citizens over 18. Then they destroy voter ID laws so non-citizens can vote. Each time the voter pool expands, you regress closer and closer to the mean, reducing the average intelligence and political, economic, and diplomatic understanding of the voters. Nine times out of ten you need a high school diploma and US citizenship to operate a cash register, but any retard can help select the leader of the Free world - where is the logic in that?
2) democracy decays into publicity battles, popularity contests, and special interest campaign financing. These propaganda campaigns, combined with a largely uninformed and uneducated electorate, produce social degradation and polarization, dividing the nation and leading to either real or imagined tyranny of the majority - which devolves into chaos, conflict, and political violence, and freezes government functioning due to an unwillingness to compromise and risk losing your base of support.

Democracy has failed in the past, and it's fail in the present, and if it hears it's ugly head again after this whole state of world affairs collapses, then it will fail in the future.

The only possible way to make a democracy function in the long term is to ban privately funded campaigns, restriction media to mitigate partisan propaganda wars, and treat voting as a privilege which is earned, rather than a right that must be protected.

>meme flag
>implies america is a democracy

its a republic you fucking retard
democracy is mob rule
mobs are mindless cattle incapable of logic and reason
logic and reason can only be ascertained by the individual
democracy is shit

>rise
I don't know about you but I've always been highly sceptical of democracy, particularly paired with universal suffrage.

>its not democracy when all the people you can vote for are on the same side
That's the logical conclusion of democracy; expansion of the franchise and increasing standardisation leading to bland centrism.

Whats with your reddit formatting and faggy way of talking?

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>The West was perfectly fine living under democracy for the longest time. That's clearly not the fucking issue.

After 1776 of American independence, only aristocrats can vote.

massvote.org/voterinfo/history-of-voting-rights/

Read more. It shows the voting history of America.

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Throughout history there are next to no serious thinkers who thought democracy was anything other than mob rule. It is communist and leads to decivilisation.

anarcho-capitalism or fascism are the only hopes for the white race

"Democracy is a soft variant of communism."
- Hans Hermann Hoppe

Democracy is fucking cancer.

they are just larping about natsoc, they are right wingers not socialists

notice how he says
liberal democracy there, over and over. pic related are authoritarian national socialists

Even the people who invented it were nearly destroyed by it

why cut off the front row Norgebro?

kek

Democracy only works in a homogenuous society. Now that every country is "multicultural" democracy is doomed to fail. Unless its only a pretend democracy like Russia. Putin is really our dictator and thats great, we are more stable than the west with our pretend democracy.

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but the Alt-Right has never been pro-democracy. The same goes for the whole NRx movement as well.

Jason Jorjani delivered a decent speech about that earlier this year (fast-forward to 4:00):
youtube.com/watch?v=Lvp8NZOauYw

what?

a republic can't be without democracy
democracy can be without republic


US is a republic and therefore is a democracy

>talking like a faggot
>shitty flag
>reddit formatting

kill yourself.

democacry was invented by jews, in the Jewi- I mean, French revolution. It served as base for all the commie shit they tried to pull including the communist revoilution in germany that awoke Adolf.
"classic liberals"? Cucks. They follow something created by jews to jew us.

we are fascists you dumb faggot