Are 90's shows like DS9 proof that race relations were fine until the 2010's?

Literally a show with a main cast comprised of three blackmen, a Jew, an Irishman an Arab and two women, yet none of it felt forced, it was diversity done right, there was no toxicity to it at all. Audiences accepted it, and audiences grew to quickly love the characters without a single though of race or gender.

Yet Star Trek discovery is filled with avatars of todays toxic race and gender issues. I honestly believe the 80's/90's had better race and gender acceptance and DS9, TNG and Voyager are proof of it.

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The magic school bus killed carlos.

Race relations were fine until about 2010 once Obama’s wasted all of his political Capitol on his shittybhealthcare bill and needed to role up democrats to stave off the loss of congress, which failed miserably

No, the L.A. Riots indicate otherwise.

“Fine”is a strong word. You did not have quite the same identity politics as exists now.

>it was diversity done right
That's exactly the point. Now they're literally remaking "Troy" with a nigger cast.

Race relations were ok and getting better throughout all of the mid 90s and early 2000s, then Obama got elected and pushed identity politics, boom race relations ruined

Great show. Sisko briefly chimped out in one of the Vic Fontaine episodes, not wanting to visit the holosuite 50's casino because of "muh civil rights." I can't think of any other examples of forced identity politics, though.

This but it wasn't really only Obumhead, it was Jews like Barbara Specter and the ADL and other kikes.
The 10s were/are also the time the whole Holocaust meme went into overdrive, I mean it was always a kinda touchy subject in Europe but recently this bullshit has been pushed so hard on us, all the Auschwitz crap. My racist/politically incorrect friend at work recently took a trip to Auschwitz to get his dose of Jewification.

Who was the Jew on the ds9 cast?

or is it in the ds9 cast?

>I honestly believe the 80's/90's had better race and gender acceptance and DS9, TNG and Voyager are proof of it.

It's true. See also also shit like the early seasons of ER.

Muslims, Poles, Blacks, Hungarians, Anglos... until around 2001 I didn’t care, nobody cared.

I enjoyed watching Bad Boys, Independence Day, Star Trek etc. As a kid I didn’t even realize Worf was a black man. Even on Islam, I did not care. I bought a Quran once and read parts of it.

Then things changed with the political correctness movement and the internet. Lefties and Muslims were getting more and more radicalized and hateful. You could get critized for holding some harmless opinions. Race and religious relationships quickly deteriorated. Everything become so fucked up until around 2005 that there was no turning back.

Remember Rodney King?

Race relations were always terrible. The internet has just exposed how much hatred there is towards white people.

>No white men
>race relations done right

They were "fine".

What happened was three presidential campaigns in a row that largely focused on identity politics stirring people batshit. Hillary worse than Obama about this.

DS9 casting felt forced as hell, and they got praised for having a "character with no clear race" aka the arab.

I think things were improving until BLM. They force a narrative that is counter to the facts. Anyone who believes that shit is automatically an idiot.

There were dozens of Ferengi.

Fine? No, and DS9 even has several episodes devoted to muh racism where Sisko came across looking like a whiny bitch, hundreds or thousands of years after these events took were supposed to take place.

Race relations were certainly better in the 90s though.

>Lefties and Muslims were getting more and more radicalized and hateful
Muslim here, I know what you're saying, but we didn't just suddenly get radicalised, we got marginalised because of muh 11/9 and when society began treating us like an enemy, we isolated ourselves and started telling each other we are superior because of Islam and when we couldn't get jobs we told ourselves, fuck you wypepo, God will provide, and when we started seeing Palestinian kids on TV getting shot by cowardly kike invaders, we suddenly realised those were us and we started to hate, whereas, pre-11/9 we wouldn't have cared a fuck about the Ummah.

So yeah, blame George Bush and the CIA.

>look guis a fictional tv show about space beurocrats prooves that people can get along

>DS9 casting felt forced as hell

wut

are you getting confused with Voyager or something?

>As a kid I didn’t even realize Worf was a black man

yeah the diversity fit Star Trek really well in most cases
I think that a big part of it was that although the cast was diverse they weren't all sympathetic characters
hell my favorite character from DS9 is the Jew specifically because of his Jewiness
all the diverse characters now have to be noble and are boring, not fun at all

Yeah, but did they have actual Jewish human cast members?

Not only are Ferengi literal space jews, they are mostly played by actual Jews.

Abdullah was driving it.

lolno

To be fair, i wouldn't go back to a time where I couldn't use a decent bathroom or faucet either.

They were not, but the ideal was better back then. Then it was expected we would build a future where everyone could stand tall, but now it's expected that the white man has to lower himself to not outshine the rest.

>So yeah, blame George Bush and the CIA.

DAS RITE GOYIM

can't even spell bureaucrat you dumb nigger

Quark is the turbojew of all jews, king of the jews in fact

I personally blame Obama for this race bullshit we are in now, it's identity politics that ruined America. I don't even care that he was "DA FURST BLACK PRESIDENT" his attitude and responses to things were basically silent flags for people to start acting out.

well by extension, it's Israel, since Bush and every president before him and the CIA have served Israel. I mean this is common knowledge on here.

The doctor is the worst by far, but the characters actually felt somewhat organic with capacity for growth and interpersonal differences that made sense, which is a damn miracle by Star Trek writing standards

just like the main people talking about homosexuality are gays, racists love to talk to talk about racism
>is racism a meme?
>gay anal sex
>gay anal sex

There was a time in the 80s-90s it did seem everyone was getting along. If anything, whites wanted to be black and do rap music. Which was a problem because race baiters can't survive without races to bait. So "gangsta rap" was invented with copious amounts of "nigga" to keep whites away from the lyrics. The notion of "this is ours". (((THEY))) even pushed "ebonics" to further divide people. But that was a little too much and people started getting suspicious. So it was dropped.

And yet for most of the Show he was pretty much the spokesperson for free enterprise and Anarcho-Capitalism. Ferengi society was basically Jewish-style Ancap until Quark's mother ruined it by manipulating the grand Nagus.

Obama literally did nothing wrong. It's fucking crazy that saying that is more controversial than saying "Hitler did nothing wrong" on Sup Forums.
Here - give me a list of the five most divisive things Obama did as president. Then try hard and remember the five most divisive things the previous five presidents did.
If you look at the resulting lists and still think Obama was the problem you need to seriously consider killing yourself.

They were produced by hollyjew, so no.

And note during that time we got the idea that *every* show had to feature a minority of every description. Don't forget that DS9 had fags on network tv for the first time ever, including graphic depictions of gay sex.

The US could put up with it at the time because we were still majority white. But now?

I haven't seen the older Treks but you're absolutely right about the new one

>What happened was three presidential campaigns in a row that largely focused on identity politics stirring people batshit. Hillary worse than Obama about this.

Bill Clinton was the last of his kind and he was elected in 1996
though even before that there was the 1994 midterm elections where the media talked about the "year of the angry white male"
Clinton maneuvered though, and cast a wide net
it took awhile but things are certainly worse now after Obama and Hillary's campaigns

That's not bad race relations though. Its just blacks being themselves.

>whites wanted to be black and do rap music
I think everyone just wanted to try everyone else's culture, whites just happened to be in proximity to niggers so naturally they wanted to try nigger culture.

so now the media kisses your ass. for what. we all know theres no going back. islam is in jihad mode. you will keep the abuse gangs, keep building power and control over native british minds. pandoras box has been opened, and youre going to kill us all eventually.

>enslaves entire planet
>gives it back
>50 years after giving it back they still wont shut up about their fucking shoah

Notice it was fine until we started adding Africa and Arabs to it.

It may not have been "forced", but it was absolutely intentional, look at childrens programming from the time.

Power Rangers, Magic School Bus, Captain Planet, Recess etc

There was practically a template.

But as other have said, they never really made a big deal of it, it just was.

>I honestly believe the 80's/90's had better race and gender acceptance

It seemed it was less forced. There was less political correctness, perhaps more optimism. The world wasn't as bad as it is now. And let's not forget that mass migrations didn't occur back then either. There was 10, 15% (In america) minorities and that was it. If Sup Forums was born in the 90s I don't know if I'd even be browsing. But they just had to push it and ruin it all didn't they?

The characters in DS9 weren't based around their race which is why it worked. Now they're hiring people because of their race, they're treating blacks, Muslims and women as their trophy pets to show off how "tolerant" they are.

>one race being violent and murdering another race isn't bad for race relations

>assassinated an American citizen without charge or trial.
>the cops acted stupidly
>ordered hildebeest to murder ambassador stevens at benghazi
>destroyed 1/6 of the American economy with socialized medicine
>convinced blacks that America is so racist they should have race riots instead of explaining to them that a black can do anything, even be President

Not sure those are the top 5, but they're pretty bad. Hitler at least preformed an economic miracle in saving Deutschland from Wiemar.

(((Star Trek))) has been Marxist propaganda from the very beginning. TV isn't reality, it's Jew mind rot and communist propaganda. Grow the fuck up and read a book, Paddy.

He already told you

How you guys liking the new Klingons?

True, but what did standard people think? I think there was less anxiety all around. We can all thank 9/11 and 2008 for the shit today, and all the migrant crap too. Back then there were Islamic attacks in France too (1995 RER bombings) but people still seemed OK with foreigners, because they weren't numerous, everybody was just more relaxed, I wish I had been an adult back then, would have probably enjoyed it

Ironically enough the new show has the main character judging the Klingons on their race. Also the klingons are about protecting their people. And the one ship is called Europa

Such a shame that pro-globalism serial rapists can only serve two terms.

>media kisses your ass
>daily mail kisses muslim ass
lol
They really don't. I know you see it from the other side of the fence, but no one falls for the leftist cosying up to Islam when it suits their agenda, except dumber leftists.

Also lolnope, Islam isn't in jihad mode, not even close. If you think that bunch of cunts called ISIS monkeying around and cutting kids heads off is us in jihad mode, then hoooo boy. Let me tell you, ISIS are the ones who will be jihaded first when the actual Jihad train starts up.

I don't want to kill you btw, and I don't think other Muslims do. I liked you people before 11/9, I think a lot has been done to drive people like me and you apart. I still remember the days just before 11/9, I was so into British culture (especially British military culture lol), to the point where I was applying to join the army. And then that happened and life took me on a different road.

deep space 9 is a ripoff of babylon 5.
They took the script of babylon 5 to the producers of star trek and they shot down the idea and immediately started writing ds9.

One of the things I've noticed about discovery is how they're trying to smear powerful empires. Look at the garb the Klingon wear tell me if it reminds you of Egyptian attire.

This.

Kek, muh Bajoracaust

I wasn't saying he was evil, just pointing out that if any race in star trek is the Jews, its the Ferengi.

1. Bush did that multiple times. As did Reagan. I'd have to look at Clinton's record.
2. DoJ is well suited to the task of investigating abusive police departments. No idea why this is controversial.
3. Utter and total bullshit.
4. You mean led us successfully out of a financial collapse and led us to our currently historic market high? Or do you mean tried to make us a functioning first world nation with a real health care system, despite the stubborn opposition of morons like yourself?
5. Literally did not do this

Compare that to Iran Contra and governing while mentally deficient, compare that to "read my lips, no new taxes". Compare that to blow jobs in office, the failed welfare for work program. Compare that to Bush, who created a new surveillance state and started not one but two land wars in Asia.

Nah fuck off mate.

You have to make France Great again. Start by kicking out the muslim.

/ourguys/

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The only thing DS9 is proof of is that once Roddenberry died, and (((Rick Berman))) took over, the franchise was corrupted into a giant Cultural Marxist factory.

Stupid. Also very likely they are just being manipulated by Romulans.

Romulans are the Russians of Star Trek.

Odo and O'Brien are white.

Honestly I really dig the design of the clothes. Star Trek uniforms almost all looked like shit until DS9, looked even better in Enterprise, and admittedly look pretty good in Discovery.

So? It's an artistic choice. The Goauld were much more blatant about that in SG1 and other stargate shows. I don't think it's bad to look to history to borrow for alien design, especially when your aliens are already humanoid. It's arguably lazy if you just copy-paste, but taking elements and recombining some/exaggerating others isn't bad.

We can't kick everyone out and go full 14/88. It's good Sup Forums larp but we all know that we need to find compromises. There were muzzies back in the 90s too but those were mostly the hard-working peeps and the harkis that had helped us keep our colonies (they were kicked out with us). If we can reduce the level od minorities to 8% and only keep the best ones, while getting rid of the socialist trash and the EU? I'll be more than happy. France won't be France as in the Second Empire, but it will be the France I used to believe existed just barely 30 years ago

>television is real life
Shut up idiot.

>So yeah, blame George Bush and the CIA

Sorry, I blame lefties and Muslims. Just as I do not blame French Fries for fat people but I blame un-selfdisciplined fat people for eating like pigs.

Bashir was clearly Arab. You'd have to be a retard not to know he was.

Original series and TNG are only ones representative of Roddenberry's vision of the future.

Haha yeah I kept imagining them saying "For space and soil "

>roddenberry's death made star trek a cultural marxist factory

No, Roddenberry was a fucking hack writer who had decent concepts that were well-designed for TV, but he made it abundantly clear on several occasions that he thought US and capitalism were barbaric and "behind".

Quark/Armin Shimmerman is jewish.

I'm referencing CULTURAL Marxism, not economic theory

Odo is an alien and Irish are barely white. DS9 is a retarded soap opera for women and niggers, a disgrace to Star Trek.

>Sorry, I blame lefties and Muslims
Blame who you like, it doesn't matter to me really. There are still a vast majority of Muslims (I consider myself one of these) who despite all the ridiculous brainwashing from both sides (Islam internally and secularism externally) are not radicalised. Hate us for the thoughts and actions of a few.

Nope. The only other President to assassinate Americans was Lincoln. The cops weren't corrupt, and if Osama had cared about the facts that was immediately apparent, but you can't let facts get in the way of a good narrative in the Alinsky style of governance. Hildebeest murdered Stevens on the orders of Osama. All the demorat and lugenpresse fake news won't change that. Osama destroyed health care, and if you were an adult who had to pay for yours you would understand that. Unless Trump can fix it, our system will collapse as surely as the Soviet system did, which is exactly what Osama tried to do with the economy. (Look how many jew bankers went to jail for the recession - oh that's right, none!) And he and moochelle, his tranny/gorilla hybrid of a wife, literally toured the country (especially SJW infested colleges) to stir up race baiting.

Compare that to a handful of non-issues and conveniently ignore the wars Osama started from Algeria to Iran in the name of the "arab spring," including getting Ghadaffi sodomized and lynched AFTER HE WAS COOPERATING WITH US, and you see a consistent pattern of failure for the Osama regime, which doesn't even touch his creation of the Islamic State and surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan.

History will judge Osama as a failed president, and one of the most wicked men of our age. All you who mindlessly drink his semen will be forgotten.

This is true. And I don't think the universe is worse off for his death since he was supposedly weirdly phobic about interpersonal dispute writing.

To be fair, early episodes it's not exactly noticeable, especially when he was trying to fuck every women in his general direction like a more boring version of Kirk or Riker

Dax are traps

DS9 is the worst star trek aside from the new movies and newest show

My bad, fair enough

Roddenberry was a marxist sack of trash that wanted dudes tonging each other on riza.

His vision of riza was a homosexual paradise.

Odo has white skin. Irish are whiter than Russian slav subhumans.

your only hope is to fragment the minority by getting buddy buddy with the ones who work and give a shit about society. Once they are comfortable with their identity they will be more willing to look beyond racial ties.

You can kind of see it with blacks in some parts of the US, but the dems do a good job at provoking racial tensions.

>tasha looking so cranky
and this is why they killed her off

kek

It honestly lends credence to the idea that if every group had a place to call their own things may be overall better off, which goes against a lot of the shows' ethos about how the Federation is this perfect multicultural melting pot

They weren't. Murder rates were sky high in the early 90s, and the left was pushing their feminism and race baiting like they always do.
The difference is that whites made up a considerably larger portion of the US population, so all of this seemed like less of a threat back then. The lack of social media also meant that the left-wing horde didn't get the same exposure or the ability to influence young minds as they do today.

>BLM vet caps cops in Dallas
>invited to speak at cops funeral
>bring up police violence towards minorities
But he did nothing wrong! HE COULD HAVE BEEN MY SON.

Just ban islam and deport anyone who complains. Then you can keep the least awful ones because they're happy to accept France over moehommad.

Or you can mandate that every mosque has to have pictures of moehommad with a bomb for a hat. Mandate that everyone must eat pork to prove their loyalty to the state. Ban the naming of newborn children after any popular muzzie name. Make the burkha and burkini arrestable offences. Forbid polygamy to include """"mistresses"""" that are wives in islam.

Most effectively, ban welfare payments to anyone who worships allah, and demolish the family homes of anyone who participates in terrorism or riots so that their families suffer for their crimes. If a slime has no family, burn the local mosque instead.

so much this
TOS, the animated series, and the first season of TNG are the only watchable things

I've been saying for years things were really on course up until late 90s early 00s then something happened and we devolved. Well most people didn't but media and academia sure did.

>o'brien
>white
lol

Can we be certain that homos on Risa were not inserted by (((Berman and others))) as opposed to Roddenberry's original vision?

All I remember of Risa was Picard and the "looking for action" statue that Riker gave him.

every single star trek anything has been adequate

No. Only season 1 of TNG, and that season sucked.