/ncg/ - National Capitalism General - Space Capitalism Edition

1776 and 1488. A return to the America the founders envisioned.
>Libertarianism without the open borders.
>Conservatism without the cucking.
>National Socialism without the dictatorship.

Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism.
Thread theme: youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8

What is National Capitalism?
National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of globalism.
>Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits
No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.
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Other urls found in this thread:

foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html
youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE
research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm
1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/
nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html
youtu.be/zc48cJWJxQs
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

>What about race?
National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. This solution can be implemented largely without government policy or permission.
foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html
youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE

>Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now?
No, our current system is one of Globalism.
International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders.
National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.

>But this sounds a lot like National Socialism.
It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm

>What about Aesthetics?
The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be.

Links:
Conceived in White Nationalism:
youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE
This link mentions ‘civic nationalism’ a single time, just ignore it because the rest is good.
1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/
Basic political position:
nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html
Original NSDAP economic plan, read this and compare it to the modern definition of ‘socialism’.
research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm
Hispanic Birthrate Decline:
foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html

What you're describing sounds extremely similar to the ideas of the American school of economics. Why not just call it 'Americanism?'

Because then they can't larp as natsocs

That's what I would've guessed. It's disappointing, really. I mean, the American school is proto-National Socialism. We really ought to embrace that instead of trying to revive a brand that's not only dead, but was only meant for Germany.

Keep doing these. This and SIG are the two comfiest generals.
In the end, profit and progress can go together to advance our country and people while making the individual and the populous prosperous.

Because this includes the recognition of race. American school of economics is not the wrong description concerning economics, it is just missing the race question. All the old forms of American politics failed to recognize race because it was implicit, there wasn't any need to. UltraNationalism, American Nationalism, and Americanism are all correct. Hell, even paleoconservatism is technically accurate. The problem is that all these labels are hijacked by neocon scum that buy into the subverted modern view of the nation that is pushed in our schools and media. Of course they are wrong, but a new label creates distance.

I can get behind that

The important thing to remember here is that NatCap philosophy actually has real achievable goals that can undo the damage multiculturalism has created. It starts with boosting white birthrates using regular mainstream conservative tax fuckery. Then it dismantles the welfare state and forces us to become dependent on our neighbors, family and community. All of this creates an in group dynamic, and that in group dynamic creates the sense of identity that whites have lost.

>Capitalism
>(((National Socialism))) without the dictatorship.

LMFAO you are a fucking braindead

I do like the idea of National Capitalism though. Should be titled "National libertarianism" Though. Drop the national socialist bullshit. Why even mention it?

Because the enormous majority of American Natsocs are not socialists at all. The are only National Socialists because nobody else addresses race. Whenever you ask Natsocs about 'socialism' you get two different answers.
>The NSDAP only used the 'socialist' label to appeal to communists in Wiemar Germany
>The Natsoc definition of socialism is different to the modern term
Both of which are fine and legitimate responses, but then when Right Libertarians and Natsocs debate, they are more concerned with semantics than policy. This is why Right Libertarians and Natsocs get along so well, because they are not arguing policy, they are arguing over definitions.

You can see this with George Rockwell, the man only became a Natsoc because the rest of the 'conservatives' refused to address the issues. He, like modern Natsocs, only call themselves that because regular conservatives avoid the race debate like the plague. NatCap refuses to let conservatives avoid the issue, because the goal is to reclaim the flag. When this happens, the conservatives cannot disavow the issue based on aesthetics.

>LMFAO
Just keep your opinions to yourself.

if an entire group of nazis got into a contract like a HOA libertarians would not stop them

you just described national socialism as practised in Hitler Germany -which was, granted, pretty fucking far from any sort of actual socialism.

original national socialism, as laid out by Drexler and the Strassers, is what people nowadays refer to as national bolschevism.

so, there's that.

That makes a lot of fucking sense actually.

I see the shills have given up on "anti-nazi general" and are trying something more subtle with this "PRCuck general". I think it's a good approach, since PR Cucking was always more popular on cuckpol. Lots of teenagers too nervous to be caught "being nazis" by their parents, and delusional enough to think "National Capitalism" doesn't sound obviously like "I'm a National Socialist trying to sound like I'm not".
>1776 and 1488
14/88 literally means "14 words, Heil Hitler" so you're still promoting National Socialism, you stupid fucks. You didn't even look up what 14/88 means.

>original national socialism, as laid out by Drexler and the Strassers
Wasn't "original national socialism" you dumb fuck, it was just "leftist sociaism". Natsoc came from Feder and Hitler. God damn this whole board is just shills and gullible idiots now. It's like an orgy of cucks and cowards

>being this tryhard
NatCap is the future of this board, just wait

>when you want to have a libertarian capitalist economic system within your own country, while also defending your culture and race, and telling foreigners to fuck-off or get MOAB'd.

Capitalism was a mistake. Even the NatSocs are better than you

nazis are only nazis cause they don't know economics

Join the ranks of hoppe's followers friend, physically remove communists and democrats from america

youtu.be/zc48cJWJxQs

Says the communist.
How many people died under that ideology during the 20th century? 100 million was it?
Go be an edgelord somewhere else about how REEEEL SOSHALIZAM has never been tried.

literally why be a commie?

>>(((National Socialism))) without the dictatorship.
How the fuck can capitalism be socialism you stupid retard

Capitalism cannot be national, it is a universal, globalist system, it simply cannot exist within a nation state.

It's more likely for USA to go under than Jews to fail. Jews are stronger than USA.

hitler went the fascist way of it, let industry do as it may while protecting the people from harmful practices, socialism cause he did shit like give money to mothers and funded child welfare and shit like that

thats whats gonna happen, soon enough, that bubble is big after all

Why any American would be a filthy commie.
Because they're fucking losers in life, have probably never held a real job, or have rich parents and have no clue how fucking economics works in reality. So they cling to a failed turd of an economic philosophy that their college professors pushed on there gullible brains, so they can feel apart of some better "collective" then being the miserable shitstain failure of a human they really are deep down.

In other words what Trump calls people such as them.

LOSERS

well said, let it not be forgotten though, these losers are the ones that will always start sudden violent uprisings once their numbers swell sufficently

Are you the dude who was on Molyneux's show talking about very similar ideas?

Capitalism does not care if you choose it or not, it is a constant outside of your control. Saying you can simply choose Socialism over Capitalism is no different than claiming that you can circumvent hierarchy through social justice. No matter how hard you try it is always going to be there at some level. The Soviet Union still had to compete with other nations when it exported things, participating in Capitalism on a global scale. This is why Communists and Socialists are delusional utopians, the only way the system will work is if competition itself is removed from economics and all people agree on the distribution of labor and products.

However, like hierarchy, you can understand Capitalism and fight to claim the highest position. Denying that the hierarchy or Capitalism exists is going to put you at the bottom.

Fight for a white America.

>1433

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>Multiracial societies will inevitably be >balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority
Until Irish becomes the new nigger. Tribalism as a vulnerability to manipulation isn't going to just fucking go away because you got rid of the today's Them.

>claim to be capitalist
>open thread with a socialist NASA image

Social Security helps to keep Capitalism Nationally Secure also , please stay focused , .

The times then were tough and focus was not easy to help get going safe , please be nice , .

Bump with tits

My understanding is that "socialists" just want a mixed economy.

Very few socialists literally want government control of all institutions. That's a straw man

SUCK A DICK CAPITALIST SCUM.

Your entire ideology is just half arsing natsoc half arsing """""liberty""""" and half arsing racialism and nationalism into a purely inferior system in all accounts of any of them. Your entire system broke down and collapsed for a reason.

Keep this r/donald shit out of here. This is perfect r/donald trash bait. Well I don't like duh nazi's or dem globalists, but i love me some capitalism

Go join find a /lrg/ and shove your cancerous national libertarian ideas up itself

Fuck off infinitychan. Unironically a hugbox. I know what 1488 stands for you dumb motherfucker. Did you even read the OP or the thread?
>teehee I don't have a response, better post a GLR quote
>everything I don't like is prcucking
>I've been to secret 8pol I'm so smart
Fuck you faggot
Refer here: No, but link please. Would be interested in seeing it.

>National Capitalism
Only an ancap could see that and completely miss half the name. National Capitalism is where the nation works as a unit against the world, Mercantilism and American School of Economics.

Fndndsjrhfh

>referencing r/The_Donald
NatCap is never even talked about on r/The_Donald, they don't even know about it.

Stop jewing

Also I see you've stolen the /nsg/ op and added a few words. And you've stolen fashwave aesthetics and put it onto a government program using taxes.

>Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism.

This entire ideology is just national libertarians which cucks out on the good parts of natsoc,ancap and whatever the fuck else along with stealing the OP and aesthetics then pretends it hasn't already been tried and failed just like Communism. It is perfect centrist trash for r/donald cucks new to Sup Forums

This belongs in /lrg/, since it's practically just minachism with nationalism rather then a le unique natcap. This meme of natcap came from a authoritarian general who with the backing of the CIA overthrew a democratically elected government and massively revoked citizen rights and instituted curfews and killed people he didn't agree with

delete this meme of thread and make it the next /lrg/ general you see since that's what it is. Liberation and right wing.

You sound pretty butthurt over a new idea sprouting up on Sup Forums.

Here's the thing. The average American will NEVER listen to someone like you rattle on about the 'international Jew' with a swastika behind you.
But they WILL listen when you talk about 'stopping subversion from destroying our white christian country' with the American flag.