500 years of Protestantism destroyed the world: liberalism, usury, global banking, marxism, illuminism, freemasonry...

500 years of Protestantism destroyed the world: liberalism, usury, global banking, marxism, illuminism, freemasonry, hippie movement, etc, etc, etc.

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>liberalism
Why do Catholics overwhelmingly vote in favor of socialists and democrats?
Why is your current pope such a massive faggot cuck leftists?

>usury
That's a kike invention.

>global banking
So the Medicis were protestants now?

> marxism
Atheist kike invention.

> illuminism
The fuck is this even supposed to be?

>freemasonry
Freemasonry doesn't discriminate between religions.

>hippie movement
I don't know how inexperienced you are, but here in the US, hippies were the direct result of a huge countercultural movement against Protestant America, which was the bastion of conservatism and right wing politics.

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>That's a kike invention.
Protestants abolished all laws against usury that were in place in Europe from the 10th century to 1614.
>Atheist kike invention.
Wrong. The idea of one world communist order was created by protestants.
The oldest socialist movement in europe was literally funded by protestant preachers.
>The fuck is this even supposed to be?
French revolution, atheism, materialism, etc.
>Freemasonry doesn't discriminate between religions.
Because you don't know history. Freemasonry was created by protestants and jews to destroy Christianity and their relationship you can find in literally thousands of book about the roots of Freemasonry.
Churchill, Edmund Burke and Henry Denifle wrote about it if you are interesting
You just proved Francis is not the pope but a protestant/marxist freak. He even admitted his greatest theologian influence is Luther

Urusry used to be an amoral and illegal practice under the Catholic Church. Then that fucking kraut fucking faggot Martin Luther ruined everything, causing untold Christian European deaths in the religious wars to follow. It's always Germans fucking everything up. Truly the worst race

Sorry, bro, I don't speak Molestor.

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>muh usury

jfc you poorfags are pathetic

>Urusry used to be an amoral and illegal practice under the Catholic Church

Nope. Usury was a church monopoly. While taking interest on loans was forbidden, the Catholic Church had a monopoly on lending money for a fee. Since they claimed that the fee wasn't interest, it didn't count as usury.

Can you understand this or do I need to translate it into Spanish?

Pray to Elrond for salvation, amigos. If that doesn't work, pray to Gandalf.

>Catholic calling anybody liberal
Protestants are leaps and bounds more conservative than the Cucklic church of Lucifer.

Why is it that every single country with a Catholic majority is absolute dog shit?
>Entirety of South America
>Much of South East Asia
>Ireland
>Italy

Liberalism destroyed protestantism because weak hedonistic boomers did not safe-guard it.

Not the other way around

Also, your Pope is a pedophile who was indicted before he even became pope.
He took the Jesuit oath, read it and see how "redpilled" it is.

It certainly explains why Catholic countries are always going through strife. It also explains crazies like mother Theresa who wanted people in her refuge to suffer as much as possible, as she believed her being close to suffering was being close to God.

Catholism is best.
Protestants are faggots like you.
Being anything but catholic makes you Protestant.

Prove me wrong faggot

Protestanism is like the antifa of christian religion. It has no place, it's made up by degenerates and it tries to infest itself into other religions and cultures. You're a step above anarchists yet still cancer. You're the black plague, only difference is you don't get infected by actual rodents. Just rats.

Interesting the top 5 countries are the most advanced countries regarding cultural marxism
Drugs, public homosexuality and even young boys dressed as girls are normal and seeing as progressive.
The first countries to start broadcasting movies about homosexuality and gay sex were
1) United States
2) Sweden
3) Germany
4) UK
5) Canada
perhaps it's a coincidence it's a land of protestants

Canada is Catholic, but ok.

>It also explains crazies like mother Theresa who wanted people in her refuge to suffer as much as possible
First you watched /r/atheism Hitchens garbage. Second she believed in the protestant/liberal lie about "all religions are good".
Go read her own book you'll find she saying about how she grew up learning with protestants. Funny that Hitchens didn't mention any of interview of her saying about how the reform(the protestant revolution) was ''a good thing''.

People engaging in that behaviour live almost entirely separated from those that do. Liberal states, who coincidentally love the Pope due to all the Mexicans and undesirables who are repeatedly okayed by the Pope and the Catholic church see it as nothing wrong.

The Vatican II ecumenism (praising all religions) started in 1964.
Interesting that people forget about 464 years about Protestant liberalism and their relationship with islam, freemasonry, etc and only pick recent events.
You talk like western marxism and worshiping a marxist like Francis is something which started in February 2013

I didn't watch anything by Hitchens, actually. The source doesn't matter, only that it was the truth because it is. How is it relevant who she grew up with if she identified with Catholicism the most and if that was what motivated her to live among people who were basically being tortured instead of nurtured.

You have a lot of mental gymnastics and excuses for the Catholic church and always want to blame somebody else. You were not the first church, the orthodox church existed far before you. You are not enlightened, you turned God's house into a whore house by selling the absolvement of sins as a paid service. You made Mary co-redemptrix. You invite Islam (your spiritual, snake in the grass brother) in as it fulfills the Catholic church's Jesuit mission. You worship death, by using its symbolism and taking it as far as to actually believe you're eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood.

You are not Christian, you are lost sheep.

>Protestant liberalism and relationship with Islam
Evidence, we're waiting.

Like that other user said, Freemasonry isn't exclusive to any religion. Considering there were more Catholics than protestants it's not a stretch that there would have been more Catholic Freemasons than protestant ones.

It's also interesting that you use what is likely the minority of protestants as a way to colour all of them. Whereas the Catholic faith is constantly changing with the times as it wants to remain relevant, what they believe comes from the core of the religion rather than an individual straying from the flock.

says the cathcuck, enjoy your "christ" on Earth, the papist kike who wants you to spread your anus for Islam, Homosexuality and Jew love

He is a literal pedophile. The entire religion revolves around homosexuality, pedophilia, death, and Lucifer worship.

>she grew up with if she identified with Catholicism
A Freemason can ''identify'' with catholicism. A black person can identify as aryan.
That doesn't mean anything. She was a liberal protestant, she wasn't remotely Catholic.
>You have a lot of mental gymnastics and excuses for the Catholic church
Find me a document of the Catholic Church before 1964 that praised other religions or praised liberalism
What you'll find is the exact opposite. The Catholic Church has issued more than 20 public bulls and documents against freemasonry and liberalism since the 18th century.
The Anglican Church has issued zero. The Lutheran Church has issued zero. The Baptists zero, the Methodists zero, and so on.
>Freemasonry isn't exclusive to any religion.
Well, we can't ignore the fact Cromwell, Bacon and others started secret societies to destroy the Catholic Church. No serious freemason deny the founders of Freemasonry were reformers (protestants).
This is extreme relevant because protestants removed laws against jews because they believed the jews were the chosen ones.
That's one of the reasons Protestants spend most of their time reading the Old Testament (which is the same collection of books as the jews read)
robertlomas.com/Freemason/Origins.html
museeprotestant.org/en/notice/french-protestants-and-the-freemasons/

The most famous translation of the protestant Bible called ''The King James Bible'' was commissioned by freemasons.

The Jesuit oath of the Roman Catholic "church":
reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

>Freemasonry was created by protestants
The Church of England was Catholic at that time, though.
>and jews
Weren't allowed to join, or even be in England.
>to destroy Christianity
Lolno.
> and their relationship you can find in literally thousands of book about the roots of Freemasonry.
Indeed you can. You should read some.

>Well, we can't ignore the fact Cromwell, Bacon and others started secret societies to destroy the Catholic Church.
Bacon did nothing wrong, and Cromwell was pure evil, but he was just a shit in general, not against the Vatican in particular. He did more harm to Britain.
>No serious freemason deny the founders of Freemasonry
>founders
Full retard.

>Mother Teresa, known in the Catholic Church as Saint Teresa of Calcutta[6] (born Anjezë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu; Albanian: [aˈɲɛzə ˈɡɔndʒɛ bɔjaˈdʒiu]; 26 August 1910 – 5 September 1997), was an Albanian-Indian[4] Roman Catholic nun and missionary.[7]
Why would you even attempt to lie? Snake in the grass.

>Gets asked for evidence of protestants encouraging liberalism
>Muddies the water again by asking for evidence of something he is certain doesn't exist
Read the Jesuit Oath your Popes take.

>Makes a bunch of wild claims about Freemasons being protestants and doesn't provide any evidence

>He actually believes protestants almost exclusively read the old testament

>Ignored everything about the co-redemptrix, corpse worship, Pope worship, pedophile protectorate, the Jesuit oath, paying off sins and everything else wrong with the Catholic church

Wew lad.

By the way your sources conclude its origin in the Catholic church.
> Rosslyn links the Jewish Temple through the Knights Templar to Freemasonry
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar
>Knights Templar or simply as Templars, was a Catholic military order recognised in 1139 by papal bull Omne Datum Optimum of the Holy See.[4] The order was founded in 1119 and active from about 1129 to 1312.[5]

>My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.

>You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.

>The Church of England was Catholic at that time
No.
The Church of England was the Church of England at the time of freemasonry. Henry VIII was protestant, Elizabeth I was protestant, James VI was protestant, Charles I was protestant...
An interesting note is that Charles I was assassinated by protestants because they wanted both his power and they weren't happy due to his weak persecution of Catholics.

>The first edition of the King James Bible, which was edited by Francis Bacon and prepared under Masonic supervision, bears more Mason's marks than the Cathedral of Strasburg.-Manly P. Hall, from a lecture Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins 1929

>Bacon edited the Authorised Version of the Bible printed in 1611. Dr. Lancelot Andrewes, Bishop of Winchester, one of the chief translators, was Bacon's close friend. The MSS are missing. That Bacon revised the manuscripts before publication is certain. Neither Bilston nor Miles, to whom the MSS were entrusted for final revision, could have given the world such a literary masterpiece. We have their writings. They are mediocre, barren of style, lacking the creative touch. Alfred Dodd, Francis Bacon's Life-Story 1986

Both Bacon and Crowell were freemasons.
>Read the Jesuit Oath your Popes take.
Francis is not the Pope and that oath is false, fabricated. The only source for that quote comes from the Library of Congress in United States. In late 1800s it was already well known as a fabrication
This book explains the source of the oath fabrication:
archive.org/stream/blundersforgerie00brid

South America is Catholich. Doesn't look very Moral to me. Meanwhile US, Norway, Denmark are all best nations to live in

Finland too, Lutherans here.

>The Church of England was the Church of England at the time of freemasonry.
Which time?
>Henry VIII was protestant
Yea, but not before him.
>An interesting note is that Charles I was assassinated by protestants
Don't shift the blame from (((Cromwell)))
>Both Bacon and Crowell were freemasons.
Cromwell wasn't, but Bacon may have been.
>Francis is not the Pope
Well that's a lie. Or heresy.

ITT butthurt heretics arguing for their diabolical cult.
There is only one Christian church, established by the Lord himself. If you want to be saved, repent your sins and come back. Otherwise go burn in hell.

>Doesn't link to where he is quoting from
>Revising history like a good Catholic.

>Francis is not the pope
>Expects me to read a 400 page volume from the 1800s which like you today tries to lie about it being fake
>People who have escaped the order testify that it's real
It's recorded in the library of Congress, it's been deemed to be factual.

>Yea, but not before him.
Because before him freemasonry didn't exist you dummy
>Don't shift the blame from (((Cromwell)))
I was actually the one who brought the fact Cromwell was a freemason AND set up the murder of Charles I (who wasn't Catholic btw)
>Well that's a lie
That's because you don't want to think. Francis is an Antipope and there have been many antipopes throughout history.

>Expects me to read a 400 page volume from the 1800s which like you today tries to lie about it being fake
Page 210, it's only two pages. you're welcome.
>It's recorded in the library of Congress
It's an english translation without a source. Find the latin source. You can't because it doesn't exist.

>Because before him freemasonry didn't exist you dummy
Arguable. We have no definitive date where you can say that operative guilds were distinct from speculative lodges. Either way, the former certainly created the latter.
>I was actually the one who brought the fact Cromwell was a freemason
He wasn't, though.
>AND set up the murder of Charles I
Yes. Not abstract Protestants. Butthurt politicians.
>(who wasn't Catholic btw)
Indeed. He just dared to try and drain the swamp.
>That's because you don't want to think.
You mean, use my imagination to try and justify sedevacantist heresy? Nah, i'll stick with facts.
> (who wasn't Catholic btw)

>We have no definitive date where you can say that operative guilds were distinct from speculative lodges
At best the oldest record of Freemasonry is from the late 16th century.
You can't find anywhere not even in speculation the roots of Freemasonry earlier than that.
Freemasonry started with a clear goal, it was (and it's still is) an organized movement, they had money and in few years they managed to kill lots of key people in europe.
Cromwell for instance received money from a jewish merchant.
>sedevacantist heresy
That's a heresy only if you
a) think Francis is the pope
b) deny the fact Francis is an anti-Catholic marxist.

>nations grow strong under a certain set of ideals
>abandon those ideas
>nations becomes weak
>blame those ideals

Someone needs to re-read their Weber.

>Any Pope I don't like is not the Pope and does not reflect the Catholic church

Oh I see how you believe your church of Lucifer has nothing to do with liberalism and general cuckoldry.

It has a French source. Lying again. To deny it's real because it's not in its original language is stupid.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus

Wrong, 10 months of trump ruibed the world

>Continues to ignore the fact his source paints a clear link between Catholic Knights Templars and Freemasons

>It has a French source
And where is that source in that wikipedia link?
>because it's not in its original language is stupid.
The document claims it's from the 16th century. All documents in the 16th century were in latin and they remained in latin up until 1968 when it was permitted in certain conditions to use local language. I'm sure you can find a latin oath... from 1500 to 1968 there must be at least one source.

>At best the oldest record of Freemasonry is from the late 16th century.
Of a minute book, yes. And it was from a semi-operative lodge. Clearly it goes back earlier, since there's nothing from 1599 saying, "And so we started a thing called Freemasonry. Totally new and out of the air."
>Freemasonry started with a clear goal,
Yea? What's that? And i assume you have sources?
>it was (and it's still is) an organized movement
You know you're contradicting yourself, right?
>they had money and in few years they managed to kill lots of key people in europe.
You seem to be confusing groups.
>Cromwell for instance received money from a jewish merchant.
Duh. He was a kikelover. Why do you think he let them infest England?
>a) think Francis is the pope
Well, zero reason to think otherwise. I wasn't in the College of Cardinals before the white smoke went up, and thus have to go by their word.
>b) deny the fact Francis is an anti-Catholic marxist.
Which anyone with a triple digit IQ would do. But i guess you don't really understand Christianity, much less Catholicism.
So yea, Sedevacantism is indeed a heresy, by definition.

>most advanced nations on earth are protestant.
the blame for the collapse of the west isnt protestantism, its the abondenment of nationalism

>What's that?
They believe in fraternity and equality. It's communism. They believe humans are gods. Their goal is to replace the Catholic Religion (which considers the idea of enlightened mankind heresy) with a religion of men, a religion of kaballah and ancient traditions of occult.
>Which anyone with a triple digit IQ would do
You are dumb. Francis believes in Martin Luther, he thinks protestantism was good, he thinks gays go to heaven, he praises jews and islamic leaders, among many other things.
Francis and the heretic before him, Benedict XVI believe the jews are still waiting for their Messiah, therefore they deny Jesus.

>The document claims it's from the 16th century
Where?

The link wasn't meant to provide the French source, it was meant to show that the Jesuits originated from the Catholic church. Because they did.

>The most economic advance countries are countries which are home of banking jew
Well that's old news. Let's talk about real progress, unless you consider the fact you can buy legalized weed and dress like a drag queen on the streets ''a first world'' thing.

the netherlandsi ts like that. only amsterdam is, amsterdam is a tourist facade. were actually fairly conservative and comfortmist here

>Jesuits originated from the Catholic church. Because they did.
Well that's written history and a fact. The document however is not. It can only be from the 16th century because in that document it makes reference to fight the reformation. Unless someone wrote a document 300 years later to fight the reformation.. which would be a lot easier to expose.

>They believe in fraternity and equality.
That's not a goal, bro. And it's specifically not communism, because the equality is equality of opportunity. Not enforced equality.
> They believe humans are gods.
False, and heretical. Anathema to Masonry.
>Their goal is to replace the Catholic Religion
False, no reason to do so, and could never "replace", as Masonry isn't a religion.
>a religion of kaballah and ancient traditions of occult.
Qabbalah is also not a religion, just a lens. It's also not utilised in Masonry. And nothing wrong with the occult. Remember Christianity itself used to have such a label.
>You are dumb.
Shots fired.
>Francis believes in Martin Luther, he thinks protestantism was good
It was. The Vatican was a corrupt cesspit at the time. It needed a foil.
> he thinks gays go to heaven,
Only because of what the Bible says about salvation. You ought to read it.
>he praises jews and islamic leaders
Aye, appalling, but remember that good can come from anywhere, and should be recognised. Not that i agree with his praises.
>Francis and the heretic before him, Benedict XVI believe the jews are still waiting for their Messiah
Because that's what the jews say. It was a matter of politeness, sadly.

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>And nothing wrong with the occult. Remember Christianity itself used to have such a label.
You are not Catholic and I think you are a freemason. No one would deny Francis is a marxist and heretic, no one would deny he praise jews and islam, unless that person believes in the god of freemasonry, which is the god of 'all religions''
>It was a matter of politeness
No, when a Catholic says Jesus is not God he is a heretic. They said many times that jews are correct in waiting for their Messiah.

>liberalism, usury, global banking, marxism, illuminism, freemasonry, hippie movement, etc, etc, etc
literally none of that shit has anything to do with Protestantism you 15yr old fuckhead.

>You are not Catholic and I think you are a freemason.
No shit, genius.
>No one would deny Francis is a marxist and heretic
Now i know you're not a Christian, and certainly not Catholic. Or you have some weird self styled view of it. Either way, heresy.
>no one would deny he praise jews and islam
I didn't deny that. I said it was appalling. Lrn2read.
>unless that person believes in the god of freemasonry
No such thing. Freemasonry isn't a religion, remember.
>which is the god of 'all religions''
That's oxymoronic.
>No, when a Catholic says Jesus is not God
He didn't say that, though.

this. fuck i hate pol, its filled with self loathing retards

These papal bulls explicitly condemn freemasonry and their teachings.

- Bull “In Eminenti Apostolatus Specula” Pope Clement XII, 1738;
- Bull “Provida Romanorum Pontificum” Pope Benedict XIV, 1751;
- Bull “Ecclesiam A Jesu Christo” do Pope Pio VII, 1821;
- Bull “Quo Graviora Mala” Pope Leo XII, 1826;
- Bull “Litteris Altero” Pope Pio VIII, 1830;
- Bull “Mirari Vos” Pope Gregrory XVI, 1832;
- Bull “Qui Pluribus”Pope IX, 1846;
- Bull “Quibus Quantisque Malis” Pope IX, 1846;
- Bull “Apostolicae Sedis Moderationi” Pope Pio IX, 1869;
- Bull “Quamquam Dolores” Pope Pio IX, 1873;
- Bull “Etsi Multa Luctuosa” Pope Pio IX, 1873;
- Bull “Exortae in ista” Pope Pio IX, 1876;
- Bull “Etsi Nos” Pope Leo XIII, 1882;
- Bull “Officio Sanctissimo” Pope Leo XII, 1887;
- Bull “Dall'alto dell'Apostolico Seggio” Pope Leo XIII, 1890;
- Bull “Inimica Vis” Pope Leo XIII, 1892;
- Bull “Custodi di quella Fede”, Pope Leo XII, 1892;
- Bull “Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae”, Pope Leo XIII,1894;
- Bull “Annum Ingressi” Pope Leo XIII, 1902."

>[...] If those who are admitted as members are not commanded to abjure by any form of words the Catholic doctrines, this omission, so far from being adverse to the designs of the Freemasons, is more useful for their purposes. First, in this way they easily deceive the simple-minded and the heedless, and can induce a far greater number to become members. Again, as all who offer themselves are received whatever may be their form of religion, they thereby teach the great error of this age-that a regard for religion should be held as an indifferent matter, and that all religions are alike. This manner of reasoning is calculated to bring about the ruin of all forms of religion, and especially of the Catholic religion, which, as it is the only one that is true, cannot, without great injustice, be regarded as merely equal to other religions.

>These papal bulls explicitly condemn freemasonry and their teachings.
Yes, and? Doesn't make them correct. Nor has it stopped Catholics from joining.

Napoleon liberated the jews. Napoleon was elected with the help of protestants and freemasons. By that time (in 1804) there were already banks operating in europe funded by freemasons and protestants. The history of banking as that book pic I posted proves this.
Needles to say the mother of cultural marxism is the french revolution.
>Nor has it stopped heretics from joining.
Well, that's the entire point.

>Napoleon was elected
Lol.
>Well, that's the entire point.
Then you have no real point? Why argue about things you don't understand?

the real point i'm showing heretics do heresy.. what else could they do? they join freemasonic lodges, they conspire against the Church, they recognize Francis as the pope, they are egalitarians, they believe gays go to heaven and so on.

>the real point i'm showing heretics do heresy
Which is tangential to your previous posts, where you were btfo about sedevacantism.
> they join freemasonic lodges,
So?
>they conspire against the Church,
False.
>they recognize Francis as the pope
Why wouldn't they?
>they are egalitarians,
Some might be. Blame the media.
>they believe gays go to heaven and so on.
Who did Jesus not save? Do you have a list? Again, you should read the Bible, heretic.

>Gays go to heaven
>freemasonry didn't do nothing wrong
Why I'm not surprised after 500 years of liberalism?

>Gays go to heaven
I hate fags as much as anyone, but you're contradicting the Bible thinking otherwise.
>freemasonry didn't do nothing wrong
We already established that Freemasonry isn't what you think it is. Have you received some kind of head injury affecting your short term memory?
>Why I'm not surprised after 500 years of liberalism?
Because you've not partaken in any education.

Here's another
>"let's ignore the WASPs, the KKK, and other protestant groups that were against kikes, catholicucks, etc."
thread.

>Have Cuck Pope
>Have More Nonwhites than Whites
>Most Protestant Groups are more likely conservative

Fuckoff Catholicuck

All of those things are banned in Protestantism also jews so get out you d&c shil jidf