29:15 knows exactly what a bumpstock is, later says it's a silly thing that he doesn't know what it does. 32:15 starts to say "Steve said ....." and stops himself while shaking his head and changes subject.
>Knows exactly what bump stocks are >Later says he doesnt know what they are >Talks about his brother using a tripod and three-oh-eight rounds >is knowledgeable as fuck about guns but pretends at times not to know anything about them >says he has no guns, but then says he takes his kids to the gun range to shoot .22 >Says his brother is a millionaire using slots and gambling, bets 100k a night >Says his brother considered gambling to be work though >gave low rent to renters just to be a nice guy >apparently took care of all his friends by buying them houses, thousands in sushi whenever they hang out >fake crying with no tears. his eyes are smiling, don't seem like the eyes that would be shaken after something tragic like this >he sure is chatty with 20 press/cameras surrounding him when most people would avoid press and release short statements that they couldn't believe their family did it >he says "everyone in deep shit" and "when you lay you head on your pillow at night" to amplify fear and imply anyone is capable of this with no signs at all >says he didn't interact with his brother that much (outside of thousands in sushi now and then) yet knows he was "descending into this hell" >the "Steve said...." screwup at 32:13
will we ever find out the truth about Steve's double life?
Henry Peterson
I'm guessing the fbi and others are combing through to find out where his money came from. The gambling sounds like a laundering op.
Brody Turner
it's just a guy there aren't any aliens walking around in peoplems skin
he doesn't know anything about mary-anne or ar-
Jaxson Powell
14:50 his brother about calls him an Arms dealer.
Daniel Reyes
kek at 14:50 he almost says "steve was army of one" but cuts himself since he realizes how bad that would've sounded.
Jackson Smith
So steve doesn't like to fire automatic guns but killed 58 people with one. Hmmmmmmm
Gavin Collins
>are combing through to find out where his money came from
other words they are here in Sup Forums
Hudson Nguyen
he was going to call him an army of one
equally as bad if not worse
Sebastian Cooper
Why would have that sounded bad?
Michael Harris
Yeah just rewatched, i think your right.
Brody Perry
A JEW POSTED THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD TODAY
Logan Adams
EXPENSIVE SUSHI
STEVE SAID ...
STEVE WAS RAD, INTELLIGENT, AND DREAMY
Jason Ward
liked hip hop too
Cooper Morris
yeah. this weirdo brother is obviously lying. props to Sup Forums who caught onto this after his first satement
Chase Kelly
No more than a minute in and this guy is full of shit. I don't fall for the crazier conspiracy theories around this, but I think, easily, that this guy is acting. Particularly the exaggerated exhaling and forced sniffling. It's similar to the father of those British kids who blew the whistle on the pedo ring. And then he just continues to ramble over-dramatically.
Jordan Smith
This also came from anotherTHREAD.
Daniel Long
HE WAS ZOGGED YOU AUTISTIC MONGOLIOIDS!!!
His brother is dumbfounded, this is a natural reaction from a non autistic person.
Zachary Smith
cause he just killed 60 people.
he even says right after "I was going to use a colloquial military term"
Robert Allen
>911
fucking zog man
Mason Thomas
>the father of those British kids who blew the whistle on the pedo ring gotta link?
Alexander Jones
There are many, many "duper's delight" laughter slips riddled throughout as well. Shady fucking dude. He's really putting on a play for them.
William Jones
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Brayden Smith
Leave that family alone man, fuck you guys are ... >*watching him talk about their wealth*
Yeah that piece of shit is covering something up
Liam Miller
shut the fuck up you retard
Gabriel Morgan
Someone should message this waiter and ask what the person he was with looked like before the FBI deletes it
Jonathan Flores
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Gavin Thomas
you watched one actual fucking minute of the video and felt aptly qualified to post to this thread
Why have so many guns? What sense is that? maybe 2 guns and alot of mags.MAYBE 3.But what reason to have all those guns and just off yourself without shooting out with cops.
He could have bought 2-3 guns and got the job done at all distances.Only reason is if he thought they might keep malfunctioning. Although if he knew enough to use a bump stock, I imagine he knew enough to check the specs of the guns a reliability.Why so many guns for one action of shooting down into a crowd?
Brody Fisher
are you that autistic that you can't see it's a joke???
Angel Reed
Quality post, shill.
Michael Gomez
Has anyone noted the similarities between Paddock and Jeffrey Alan Lash? You know, the dude in LA who was found dead with a stockpile of 1200 guns and around a million dollars of cash? Lash also had a total blank slate as far as known personal history. That story was memoryholed pretty hard, which suggests he was a spook involved in some operation that went wrong. I'm getting very similar vibes from Paddock.
Colton Lewis
Watch the smile at 30:01
IT was the most authentic emotion he showed the entire time.
Xavier Collins
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Jaxson Robinson
All you have to know is that he was a "professional gambler" from playing video poker. If you know ANYTHING about video poker, you know that it is just an intricate slot machine with payouts calculated just as a normal 3 reel slot machine would do--in other words, it's statistically IMPOSSIBLE to make a living off playing one of these; if the machine is, say, programmed to pay out 85%, the more he plays the more likely he will only end up with 85% of his total investment.
Now if he would have said live poker, I wouldn't have an argument here.
Ethan Cox
SPOOK FAMILY SPOOK GOOK
William Robinson
>14:50 STEVE HE WAS AN ARMS *STOPS* >32:114 STEVE SAID *GULP*
What did this goy mean this?
Ethan Cook
money laundering
If he was professional it would be at a certain game, not "gambling".
Matthew Gray
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Ryan Murphy
or maybe the ponies. maybe.
Henry Ward
His family almost certainly profited off of his dad's bank robberies. His brother (the mass murderer) worked at the IRS. They laundered money for decades. This guy is totally full of shit and while he probably believes this action is beyond him, he 100% and I mean 100% heard his brother "crazy talking" about shit like this. Watch the full video. He won't admit to the "crazy talk" but it happened. Like, IASIP "crazy talk." Every family has someone who makes crazy talk, even sane people talk "crazy" speculating about a given attack. I can "crazy talk" right now about how the Green Scare idiots could've actually impacted the US. Hint; thermite, steel. We all do it to some extent or another. This guys brother is hiding something big. He is fully open though so let's hope he reveals more.
Nathan Murphy
This is the guy who was found dead in his car right? He sat dead in a car, parked there for over a week. He guy claimed to be either CIA or NSA. He probably was. Thats what he told his woman anyway.
Jace Reed
>loses someone he loved and looked up to >complicated by various conflicting trajectories >gets harassed and called a liar because he's eccentric and lacks social skill
this board is so fucking backwards
James Jenkins
27 addresses gf had 2 identities 40 guns huge wealth while professionally "gambling" for 20 years
Easton Garcia
>random woman warns people they're gonna die 45 minutes before shooting starts >room full of 80 something guns >shooter fires for 9-11 minutes >room goes quiet, shooter ran? >cops arrive at room 72 minutes later, find shooter dead >isis claims responsibility >media can't come up with anything close to convincing for a motive
You really think this is a regular story where some nutcase decides to hoard 80 guns in his room, then not use any of them? You've answered your own question.
Andrew Edwards
a 15% tax on money laundering a good deal?
Jonathan Rivera
That's my point. To be a "professional" means that you make your primary means of living/income from doing that activity. You just can't be a "professional" at slots--the algorithm programmed in the machines prohibits it. If he started out with an initial investment of 1 million dollars, the more he played the closer he would end up at 850,000 dollars (assuming the 85% payout).
Michael Cooper
lash was an insufferable sociopath who manipulated women into buying guns and gadgets for him
he was sick and later died
that's it end of story
Jordan Morales
test
Ryan Jones
>All you have to know is that he was a "professional gambler" from playing video poker. He was a decoy, when he slipped his card in, it'd pay out at much better rates, because if people on the floor saw an old white guy "winning" they'd also start gambling more. His card made him a "winner" and he was basically a "secret shopper" / "secret gambler" of the casino. This shit should be illegal. But probably protected somehow under some obscure law.
John Miller
louis ak47
Bentley Foster
dont forget every media station said the response team arrived quickly and did a great job. In many cases lying saying they "neutralized" the subject who was already laying down dead.
Jaxson Davis
What?
It's far more likely he was using professional gambling as a means to launder money.
Carson Lee
Arms dealer? A deal in the hotel room with people showing up that were less interested in his guns.
Matthew Sanders
Kind of like William H. Macy in "The Cooler" after he got laid?
Nathaniel Lewis
The money wasn't from gambling. People in organized crime gamble like that, because they can't put money in the bank, they didn't really work for it, and there will be more easy money tomorrow. Guy had planes, "private person". Vegas lives off hookers and coke, there needs to be a constant supply coming in. I'm betting he ran guns south, and drugs and human cargoes north.
This could be motivation. Angry at "Trump people" for bringing back law and order, and "ruining his life". Gunmen could have been him, ISIS members, cartel members, "fast and furious" deep state.
We want answers, and I guarantee there are parties working overtime to make sure we don't get them. As impressive as /pol has become in investigation, it is still minuscule compared to the full might, and capabilities of the Federal government. One thing we are going to find out for sure is whose side our government really is on.
This is an unplanned domino falling. Consequences unclear.
Elijah White
Why would they pick someone anti-social for that?
Landon Reyes
>Brother claims shooter is a millionaire off slots. Gambling is a way to launder money. A guy could turn 100k into chips at LV and nobody would really notice.
Jason Clark
I think they were quite interested in them. Just less interested in paying for them or leaving the hotel room with them
Ayden Robinson
The problem is why would you need or want to illegally buy a bunch of guns in vegas. Margin isn't high enough to make bank selling guns in USA.
Justin Russell
It would be interesting to know why his wife was overseas. How often he travelled etc. Does he have any children?
Cameron Rivera
>It would be interesting to know why his wife was overseas.
Because she has family there and visited frequently.
>How often he travelled etc.
Frequently.
>Does he have any children?
Nope.
William Morris
Could have bribed her. "Don't say anything and you get 100k"
Justin Nelson
The whole family is also wealthy because Steve and Eric were successful and don't like that questioned. His moms well off because of Steve. Doesn't like their money being questioned. Geeeez I wonder if they had some of their bank robbing dads dough laying around and don't want it seized. Also there has to be illegal activity going on because 99.999% of people that wore money are god damn criminals.
James Reed
Yes that's it.
I saw once a documentary about the operation fast and furious, they usually recruite normal people to sell guns to the cartel. Maybe it got high jacked ny an other government organisation or even by a foreign intelligence agency.
Leo Russell
Fuck !! Just realized Jeff "Hillary did nothing wrong" Sessions will be in charge of getting to the bottom of this.
Ayden Cooper
100k goes a long way in Philippines
Alexander Clark
user, I'm eccentric and lack social skills you know what I'd do if my brother killed 50 people? not go talking to the press. twice.
Logan Gomez
underrated
Aaron Edwards
>Why would they pick someone anti-social for that? >The problem is why would you need or want to illegally buy a bunch of guns in vegas. Margin isn't high enough to make bank selling guns in USA. Black market
Michael Bailey
There is literally no such thing as a "professional slot gambler." Who is "they"? If the guy was making money on slots (impossible) he had to have been a faux slot player who the casinos paid to make bank on the regular. I've seen it personally, elderly fucks winning $1-2k on a slot machine, jumping around, being excited. Then next to them, another elderly idiot puts $1k into the machine they're on, constantly pulling the arm or pressing the button. (No difference for the machines, they're digital now, but many retain the arm to pull for nostalgia reasons.)
Nathaniel Diaz
Why wouldn't they just park two cars near the Grand Canyon or the middle of nowhere and swap guns and cash. Hotel doesnt really make sense, especially with all the cameras in Mandalay Bay.
Robert James
It was also a human sacrifice. As they stood in the HARVEST area in front of a giant black pyramid with the lights turned onto them, the lights never turned off. They were lit up with spotlights and harvested from the 32nd floor.
Josiah Lopez
>There is literally no such thing as a "professional slot gambler."
But there literally is such a thing as a "professional money launderer" you dunce.
Learn to read.
It's common as fuck.
Hudson Barnes
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Ian Harris
I mean, he probably hasn't had sleep since the incident.
He's been browsing the internet, calling people, researching on it. His own brother went apeshit, he wants to know answers too.
However, the whole bit about gambling/making a fortune and successful life (being that he was a balding low test-guy), and still considered a private person, raises my eyebrow.
Ryan Hill
Foreign "customers". If it was just a demonstration of guns with a selection to arrange a deal?
Ryan Jenkins
Im not implying that its a regular story.Im pointing out the absurd amount to make it a regular story.
Jonathan Kelly
*wire
Brandon Richardson
certain vegas video poker machines can pay out about 100.3% believe it or not with perfect play. Still, you're not going to become filthy rich playing video poker.
Jackson Cooper
THIS WAS A TONY MONTANA LEVEL INCIDENT PLANNED TO KILL A RIVAL MOBSTER'S FAMILY OR BUSINESS AND THE PADDOCKS HAVE A FAMILY HISTORY OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THEIR GREAT GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY WAS WEALTHY FROM IMPORTING ARMS AND SELLING THEM TO CHICAGO GANGSTERS CASE CLOSED
Xavier Adams
People win randomly, you don't need to pay some random dude huge sums of money and give him free rooms to do it.
Jack Richardson
SHILLS EXPLAIN ALL THIS WEIRD SHIT:
>Stresses repeatedly that his brother DEFINITELY acted alone, despite him knowing nothing about what his brother was doing, he knows nothing more than anybody else but somehow he's an authority on what his brother was doing that night
>ASKS the reporters to do a background check on himself, who does this?
>"Steve was an arm-"
>"People watch videos of children being killed" Who does this? Who says this?
>References men in black. Who says this?
>Rambles and rambles throughout the whole interview until bump stocks are mentioned and then he's a professor on the subject, but later states he knows nothing about it.
>Said the FBI never contacted him, then later says the "feds don't tell him anything" WTF?
>Actually caught himself in a lie by saying he doesn't own a gun then IMMEDIATELY backtracks and say he does.
Colton Long
maybe eric's equally as stupid but significantly less of a cuck than you
there is no conspiracy here
Nicholas Lopez
>a bagel
Brody Gomez
>But there literally is such a thing as a "professional money launderer" you dunce. Fair enough my first post in this thread said they were laundering daddy's bank robbery money. But we're talking 30 years later. He was working for the casinos. His own brother said it was his job. And you literally cannot win on a slot machine.
Liam Anderson
The dad who was a bank robber and their aversion to anyone questioning their wealth is an obvious give away that all of their funds all illegal. He had no reason to give his mothers backstory other to say that she was >a poor secretary
Aiden Anderson
bullshit he got all that money from gambling. People who make a lot of money from gambling like that lose it quickly. Those buildings in Vegas aren't huge because they hand out millions.
I don't think that his family would know anything substantial, but he'd know his brother paid for their comfy living doing something shady.
Ethan Moore
>sucking (((them))) off this hard Don't you have dog semen to slurp on?
Gabriel Stewart
>there is no conspiracy here
l o l
Matthew Clark
>mom was poor secretary >mom gave steve real estate business >well actually steve made her wealthy None of the answers about finances make any sense.
Hudson Collins
>hiding something big
I'm just a guy! He's totally faking. He has an argumentative tone but refuses to make any points. It sounds like he's trying to convince them of something and they're giving him the floor but he just circulates nonsense like "I'm not guilty for being successful." "You guys! Come on!" They're right there listening, no one's arguing.. he's acting extremely guilty. Maybe he feels blame for what his brother did but he's being elusive and insistent for some fucking reason that really wants to come out
Luke Cruz
>Stresses repeatedly that his brother DEFINITELY acted alone, despite him knowing nothing about what his brother was doing, he knows nothing more than anybody else but somehow he's an authority on what his brother was doing that night
No, he stressed repeatedly that his brother was extremely capable, independent and intelligent and that he didn't doubt for a second his brother could have done this, or anything else, if he set his mind to it.
>ASKS the reporters to do a background check on himself, who does this?
No, he was freaking out and full expecting the media to dredge up every little bit of dirt on him and the family that they could.
>"Steve was an arm-"
Oh yeah, because you'd be such an eloquent public speaker in the wake of your brother committing the worst mass shooting in US history?
>"People watch videos of children being killed" Who does this? Who says this?
Says the faggot who hangs out on Sup Forums watching videos of ISIS capping cunts etc?
Seriously man, you're reaching for straws, use some objectivity for fucks sake.
Hunter Russell
bump
Nolan Miller
If you don't sell the guns but it's just a demonstration, to seal a deal on a larger quantity of guns? Usually you won't get killed in public.
Kevin Allen
don't forget the steve was a great guy but steve made me get sandwiches for him and ordered me around like his bitch steve berated his gf in starbucks and treated her like shit saying he owned her
Xavier Anderson
I didn't have the time to listen to this yet, but I have read about him playing slots and video poker and shit and at the same time claiming he was a professional gambler. I've been living off gambling since I was 18, that is 12 years now. I know plenty of professional gamblers, some more degen than others and none of them would play slots or games where they have no edge and expect to make money off it, because quite frankly, with no edge you simply can not profit in the long run. So when he claimed he was a professional gambler he either lied, blew it out of proportion (some people with gambling problems try to hide their losses and claim they were "professional gamblers" to justify the extraordinate amounts of time and money they invest in gambling) OR he used gambling as a cover (money laundering, large amounts of undocumented income).
Ian Thompson
video poker is not slots I used to program slots, and you are correct. Slots are state certified to deliver a certain percentage RTP (return to player) usually around 91% But they're saying he played video poker, which is different. Skill is in fact a factor in playing video poker. it's also very hard to do money laundering through slots or video poker or in LV generally. If you hit a 10K limit they ensure you file the proper paperwork with the feds.