Dark Ages

Catholic church has stopped science for a few centuries.
Truth or myth?
Give me your sources!

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Truth but in terms of the big three its the most harmless islam is responsible that Today 1200 years after it STILL stops science let that sink in

>posts meme image confusing christianity with catholicism
time to put the tech down, op.

False since the churches translated the knowledge we had to latin and kept it secured. Why would a peasant care how the body functions? Why would a noble care about it either if he has more important things to do? That kind of knowledge was kept the rest were possesed by important nobles, like how to speak like a leader, strategy books and other things. Don't believe that meme.

>Catholics
>Christians
Pick one

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_churchmen-scientists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lay_Catholic_scientists

Dark Age is a meme.

>Protestants
>not degenerates

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the reason it was called the dark ages was because of a lack of contemporary documentation. the name 'dark ages' was coined during the dark ages in fact by europeans. it wasn't half as dark as it's made out to be, anyway. the world's first modern universities were created during the dark ages and nobody has ever built anything even close to the majesty of gothic cathedrals. christian monarchy is the only humane system of organizing a society.

Not only that, but what made them the Dark Ages was Viking pagans and Saracens heathens.

It's common knowledge.

The 'Dark Ages' as a whole was and still is a myth of the highest order.

The Catholic Church is responsible for FURTHERING scientific advancements as opposed to somehow fighting it, as if not understanding creation was something the church ever wanted.

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They burned the libraries and killed the philosophers. The philosophy schools moved to Persia.

Also the plauge hit pretty hard and global cooling hit pretty hard.

>False since the churches translated the knowledge
It didn't need to be translated you retard. It had to be (((translated))) after you demonized it like YOU DO TO THIS VERY DAY.

>the church had sceintists
They also murdered scientists. But this way was after they created the dark age anyways.

>the reason it was called the dark ages was because of a lack of contemporary documentation
Becuase christians destroyed the culture so bad, like Soviets in Russia - but for 100s of years. They burned the books as "spells" and erased Western civilization except for Greece and Rome.

>The Catholic Church is responsible for FURTHERING scientific advancements
After they killed it for hundreds of years.

Nice try, schlomo

The term came from an Italian. Rome used to be the center of civilization, a shining light. Then it fell. Later came the Renaissance where Italians were on top culturally again. So he called the bit in between the "Dark Age".

Christianity is same shit like islam and always was.

Read the links faggot.

The Church largely wanted to advance science as a means of understanding 'creation' as opposed to wanting to take a shit on it for no reason.

Myth.
Church was the only thing that saved all the knowledge after the fall of the Roman Empire.
You had then hundreds of years of illiterate barbarians coming to Europe to settle.
Then you had plundering snowniggers and barbaric mudslimes conquering the Christian world.
Priests and monks were in charge of copying the books (science, religion, history, art). They dedicated their whole lives to do this.

There wasn't any major advancement since there was no real authority or unity in medieval Europe, as there was in Rome before that.

Jewish/muslim propaganda loves their stupid protestants that eat it up like semen.

The Catholic Church preventing science is overall a myth used by The left and atheist, between the plague and the wars going on at that time there wasn’t much worry about science, also liberals act likes it’s a surprise that people got murdered in that time, YOU LITERALLY could get killed for sneezing the wrong way in the Middle Ages.

The dark ages were caused by the collapse of Rome and not having any clear ruling structure, just chaotic barbarians; it ended because of the spread of Catholicism in particular because of Gaul/France.

The "science ended" meme is a lie for both eras. Society clearly continued to develop especially once the dark ages ended and Europe was christian.

But hey, liars gonna lie.

this

Catholic church is not a Christianity

Christianity originates from Old and New testament not from random verses used by guy in purple dress

>dark ages meme
>completely forgetting that it was Christian scholars who preserved information.

Those Terrible Middle Ages: Debunking the Myths - Regine Pernoud
Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History - Rodney Stark
How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization - Thomas E. Woods

Start with those.

They oppressed the poor philosopher vikings.

Embarrassing bullshit.
t.Medievalist (PhD)

If you actually think the Church did not opress knowledge they didn't like for their own benefit you're a fucking idiot.

The Atheists are lying to you.

The Ancient Roman Catholic Church is responsible for pedophilia, having stables of Nuns who were whores to the Priests, keeping the Moslems out, and creating the University System and the Liberal Arts of Logic, Reason and science.

It was coined by Petrarch in the 14thC.

>Becuase christians destroyed the culture >doesn't actually know history but decided to write this long ass post anyway

>the church started by disciples of Christ is not Christianity
Ok, so nothing is Christianity. Christianity is just a meme that never existed.

Spoiler: maybe put things into historical context instead of judging everything based on what you see today. Dont be a retarded nigger, Poland.

You can't really pass this kind of judgement on history as "good" or "bad" without being retarded. For example:

War is bad because lots of people die.
War is good because it advances medical technology.

Slavery is bad because its not fair.
Slavery is good because it was the only way to achieve large-scale civilazation building before more advanced economic systems had been developed, and those more advanced economic systems would never have been developed if the slaves hadn't built civilization

and so on

Everyone knows the dark ages were cause by a small ice age, right? An inability to grow crops turned an age of innovation to one of survival. The younger Dryas, I believe it's called.

Myth. The knowledge of European civilization was preserved in monastery throughout Europe.

Myth. Europe has always been most advanced continent since start. All inventions also come from Europe. Heres a vid
youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzq01i2O3U

The catholic church was created to take money from the poor and give it to the rich.

Yes here is a list
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

funny thing is that that is a painting of a Chatholic saint getting martyred at the hands of the romans

It only proves that the edge tards don't know shit about the era they are talking about

Greek philosophy is how science began. Christianity replaced that philosophy with a sand-nigger cult and Rome fell apart. The Christians didn't bother to keep the ancient greek texts around and forgot about them, and forgot huge chunks of science.
It's only when they rediscovered ancient greek texts that the Renaissance started up.
Our modern forms of government are all based on enlightenment thinking, which is based on ancient greek philosophy.
The rise of sand-nigger religions is destroying the west again.

Rich people and Christianity collapsed Europe

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_the_Catholic_Church#Early_Middle_Ages

it's almost like you could even just use wiki instead of some fedora facebook memes. what to really have your mind blown.... the big bang theory was created by a priest... sayyyyyyy whaaaaaaat?!?

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really makes you wonder what sort of cultural change was brought, that people discarded european civilization huh?

This, European civilization is greeko rome, Christianity rrplaced European civilization with mindless sand negro cult.

Those monasteries scraped the text off of old texts in order to re-use the paper to write religious garbage.
The conquering of Constantinople is what brought ancient greek science back from the dead.

Yeah the Dark Ages were totally backward

Apart from the invention of water-powered mechanisation, tidal mills, mechanical trip hammers, blast furnaces, stern rudders, weight driven clocks, metal rolling mills, treadle-operated vertical looms, steel span crossbows, artesian drilling, chimneys, treadmill cranes, harbour cranes, floating cranes, mast cranes, oil paints, the hourglass, the compound crank, waterpowered paper mills, the dry compass, the astronomical compass, the nocturnal, the albion, the altitudinal dial and the printing press.

Mutherfucker was created the abacus whilst you were still in loincloth, nigger.

bacon was a anglican ,galileo was not a catholic , thou shall not bear false witness

Myth. The dark ages were caused by Islamic invasion and dozens of Caliphates being established which cut off resources to the majority of Europe. The Renaissance happened post Crusades, after Europeans captured Constantinople (again) and regained control of trade in the Mediterranean and Middle East.

that video is retarded and doesnt even add anything new.

Schools or universities existed before the middle ages. Much of christian thought already happened under paganism

Christianity is the only thing that held society together during that period. We owe a huge debt to the church for maintaining our knowledge of Greek and Roman philosophy, and for building on economic thought in a way that eventually led to the industrial revolution.

t. Atheist

The first sand-nigger invasion was Christianity infesting the Roman Empire.

The dark ages are caused by the christian invasion of europe from.palestine to praise the one true all mighty allah and his messenger i mean yeshah.

If you actually think that wasn't better than whatever would have happened if they weren't there you're a fucking idiot.

Europe collapsed after secularization.

The middle ages are entirely based on the philosophy of Plato and later Aristotle. The latter, ironically enough, was rediscovered in the 12th century. But if you read stuff from 500 to around 1100, it's Plato, Plato, Plato, Plato, Plato...

Moreover, on other philosophers, some works were lost, some were kept through their interpretations in the works of others, and others were kept intact.

"Modern" thinking started with the break of realism by Ockham, which heavily inspired both Bacon and Luther. In fact, these two fucking hated Aristotle.

Anything "good" frommkikestrians cone from pagan Europeans melleniums ago that mindless sand negro cultists destroyed all European religions progress.

Lots of knowledge reached here during the dark ages and our monasteries were preserving the works that Irish missionaries brought back from the continent. There was Irish doctors and scientists in the court of Charlemagne for example and they wouldn't have had knowledge of medicine had books that reached here been tampered with and reused for religious texts.

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chad pillager

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Germanic kingdoms stopped science for a few centuries.

Name it right.
Early middle ages, aka the original Germanic chimp out, plunged Europe into chaos, they disarmed native peoples, made them unable to defend themselves properly and depending on the Germs to do their job, which they didn't since most of the time they were killing each other, and starting their tradition of inviting millions of muslims into Europe.

The only place that was safe from Germ infection was the churches, where most of the western knowledge was kept safe, since Germs at least feared God.

Of course the atheist (mostly Germanic) and protestant (who so happen to be Germanic too, coincidence, right?) narrative tells you otherwise
>Muh evil church kepting muh gib- I mean muh science from da peoplez.

*before Islam
American reading comprehension for sure

Lol what a dumbass argument. You can't know what else would've happened so could also be a lot better.

>galileo was not a catholic

he was born and raised catholic,lived as a catholic and was burried with catholic sacrements

Think for yourself for a moment, what is more likely?
A god sent his son to tell the world to behave as he says, to stick his dick where he says, to think like he says or be destroyed.
God sent an Aeon to tell us that we are being enslaved by a dark god, that won't respect our freedom of behaviour and free will, that won't respect our sexuality, that won't respect our thinking. So that we may escape by the means God has found appropriate.
Which one is more likely and reasonable?
Gnosticism, obv.
Mankind ill needs a saviour that is wanting to save us from what he is about to do to us.

>muslim
>this is haram allahu avkbar! Thanks God for allah
>christian
>this is hetetical! Deus vult! Ave maria for yeshuah

None of what you're saying changes the fact there was a 1,000 year Islamic occupation of Europe spread over dozens of individual Caliphates. The Crusades was the beginning of driving them out. Said Caliphatss remained in Europe for a very long time, the last of which being the Otroman empire, the nearest one prior to the Ottomans existed in Spain until Philip III expelled them and ordered their rapebaby descendents to conquer the new world (Americas). Factually speaking the only part of Spain that was able to remove the rapebabies was Valencia.

It was called the Dark Ages because the period was not well documented, not because the people were 'backwards'.

Is anyone here arguing that Christianity is real? Or are we pointing out that Christianity saved Western thought during the Middle Ages?

There is a 1,400 year occupation of Europe of Christianity that will end soon thank Gods.

Abraham will ausrotten from Evropa.

Completly false, as noted by historians. Actually a period of great learning.

Finally, a sane post

well for many years much of the intellectual development came from the middle east, whether we want to admit it or not. Granted it wasnt muslims. Christians and muslims are to busy looking at their holy books to do anything remotely noteworthy

Here's a question. What great invention came from christians from 200 a.d. til 1453?

Ideology replacement and genetic replacement aren't the same thing.

His work was literally sponsored by a cardinal friend of his.

Pro-tip : Galileo's condemnation had nothing to do with his work and everything to do with being a dick and public insults.

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>that won't respect our sexuality
Wtf God doesn't want me to get AIDS, I'm being oppressed.

Yes for sure the pagan barbarians the romans fought against would have built another roman empire. They would have translated and preserved the scriptures of old instead because they were real intellectuals. They wuz greeks and shit!

Dark age is a meme term coined by Petrarch who saw himself as the personnal rebirth of latin litterature and poetry since the fall of the western roman empire.
It exists because of a self-aggrandizing faggot.

Yea, except when it contradicted the bible lol

>Pro-tip : Galileo's condemnation had nothing to do with his work and everything to do with being a dick and public insults.

This. Besides, the heliocentric model at the time fitted the data worse than the geocentric model. If you judge the two models by today's standards, you'd go for the geocentric one. It was only Kepler who made the heliocentric model credible. Moreover, it was shown in the 19th century that the two models were geometrically equivalent, meaning you get the same predictions from both.

Ireland in the dark ages was known as the island of saints and scholars and a lot of ancient knowledge was known and preserved in the monasteries here by monks.

google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/education/the-land-of-saints-scholars-and-engineers-1.1616805?mode=amp

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of_Ireland

irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/charlemagne-and-the-irish-1.643903

google.ie/amp/s/durrushistory.com/2014/10/04/dicul-irish-monk-and-teacher-at-court-of-charlemagne-geographer-and-author-of-de-astronomium-814-ad-taught-by-brother-fidelmus-of-fermanagh-who-went-to-egypt-to-measure-pyramids-and-astronomy-in-ire/amp/

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Scotus_Eriugena

>middle east

You mean the Mediterranean region, where constant invasion and war resulted in a complete blending of genetics, science, knowledge in general and ideology. Tidal mills, blast furnace and reading glasses would probably be the most important European inventions during that time period. In my opinion.

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When Ahmed is going all out on your arse and colon, you'll be begging for Christianity back.

The book of Kells was drawn around that time if I'm not mistaken.

European armies have no threat of middle easterners.

Absolute myth. I'm not religious or Catholic, but the Catholic Chirch supported and inspired a great deal (not all) of science research in Europe.

This is a cheap left wing meme

Name when.
If you read the link I posted Galileo was actually contradicted by the current scientific evidence of the time and when posted a rebuttal insulted the current pope thus his punishment was given.

Not because the bible was absolutely contradicted, but because he contradicted the authority of the current scientific consensus and insulted the power that gave him a chance to speak out when his peers discredited him at the time.

Their birthrates and more mass immigration from North Africa will mean in a matter of time they won't have to fight an army to have completely subjugated us.

The Scientific method
See Francis Bacon.

The weather cooled in this time period as well. This shortened the harvest season and other 'make life hard' bullshit.

As far as sources, this comes from the peak glacial cores on Greenland from early 1990s. Still the best sources we have on what weather has actually been doing since long before the end of the last ice age.

>he contradicted the bible lol
I wasnt aware Aristotle was among the Bible's authors

Yeah and other books like it too. It was a golden age in Ireland that came to an end with Viking raids. I watched a show about dark age Ireland and they had water powered mills in monasteries and monks who taught Greek and Latin in schools to the people and other such things.

And converting them to Christianity will be preferable?

I thought the dark ages were the time when Islam pushed into north africa and southern europe which killed of trade in the Med as well as the muslims destroying alot of the documented advances that the greeks, christian turks and rome had accumilated over centuries.

much of these things you described were already invented.

its an ancient greek discipline

Vikings prized Irish metallurgy, most notably their gold work. Apparently owning Irish gold was a status symbol to them. Who knew you bogniggers were that complex before being Saxonized. Brian Boru was an interesting historical figure.

>Jewish cup empty
DELET THIS

To the topic, dark ages here we're dark because all the fights about the only true interpretation of the word of god, nothing less and nothing more than sunnis vs shias today. Useless wars about nonsense things.