since when do /k/ops have to wait to kill someone?
they dont wait for backup when they're on the side of a road doing a traffic stop to pull the trigger
(we all know why they didnt proceed, because there were plans in place long before tonight, but still this is bullshit)
Yeah, they should have just shot at the casino and totally not inflicting more damage by missing him/alerting him
>I knew his exact location
Good for you,what the fuck did you do
I remember this was a problem at a school shooting, the cops were out waiting while the guy was chasing kids.
If that vet was armed he could have just stormed the room and proven the nra's spiel for good, just get in there and put rounds right in the back of that old fucks face.
>Good for you,what the fuck did you do
he called the cops who proceeded to stand around doing jackshit for 24 minutes
>People do not teleport
Amazing powers of observation, thank you for your service.
Yep he definitely could've got through that door if he was armed with a ccw those locks and steel door/frame wouldn't handle the wrath of a 9mm
Almost every high casualty shooting involves a significant gap of time where LEOs are dragging their feet.
This and Pulse are good examples. On both occasions people were bleeding out over the course of hours while cops sat, waited, and talked.
Great examples of how much you can expect the police to protect you from danger.
Well they had to make sure all their FBI agents were out and safe before they went in
you can just tell this guy is a card carrying member of /k/
i bet he'll wind up "commiting suicide" soon, cause he wont shut up and stop questioning the "official story"
>he CCs 9mm
I thought you were supposed to wait it out? Just let him kill a few more and he would probably be too tired.
OH SHIT SUICIDE FROM BEHIND IMMINENT
Shoulda used a .45 for stoppin powah
I don't know what you are pointing out, they said he had 10 guns with him.
not of different calibers
also, since when do cops talk to eachother like a fucking girlfriend telling her boyfriend to be careful walking downstairs in the dark cause the circuit breaker tripped and he cant see that well?
the fuck? "becareful, why not just wait for swat honey"
Aren’t there 7.62 and 5.56 casing in the pics?
I’m questioning why they didn’t. A couple of beat cops taking down a mass murderer in a Las Vegas sky scraper sounds like a Rainbow Sixesque move of baddassery.
This. Cops set up a perimeter and wait for the killer to commit suicide. They've been doing it this way since Columbine, because they're all cowards.
>not wanting to suicide by mass shooter
>cowards
you would gladly be the first to breach a hotel room that holds 19 guns and a crazy active shooter?
no?
coward.
cowards
>not of different calibers
He had both 5.56 and .308, according to police photos.
GOD DAMN this is a really nice break down beat by beat of the entire thing
how teh fuck did 1 rogue cop get to the 32nd floor almost 20 minutes prior while supposedly SWAT was already on scene clearing floors below and then suddenly theres reports of officer hit on that same floor cause he and atleast 1-2 other cops were there
did he fire thru the door as they announced themselves?
dailymail.co.uk
IMHO there was a slow slide in the 70s-90s were policing went from being a calling where you were taking your chances to help keep your community safe to just another job, focused entirely on worker safety and backed by one of the largest and most powerful unions in america.
>pulse
user we're trying to grasp at any attempt to assume Vegas was real, lets not include staged movie sets
its bad enough we got reddit fucking upvoting pics of random "victims" in hospitals that are either nigger or multi-cultural relationships (the white girl and her chink boyfriend is another recent thread)
no actual single white male victims anywhere to be seen on MSM
>Stephen used to be (from what I've heard) a hippie/commie back in the day and is a die-hard anti-Trump now.
>A month before the shooting, John (supposedly) posts on Sup Forums the outcome of the shooting. One of which is the adoption of standardized metal detectors in places like schools, governement buildings, and public businesses
>Stephen's Asian wife leaves the country hours before the shooting. I'm not sure why or even where she went
>Shooting happens
>Police report 8 guns found, then 10, then 23. Looks like he only used a few them.
>Whether or not the gun he used is bump-fire or full auto is still debated, cucked states most likely restricting both in the future
>Lefty politicians immediately start attacking the share act not even 24 hours later, similar to the shooting before the hpa act was passed
This has got to be some sort of inside job or false flag, way too many cowinkadinks.
(Also, sorry if this is inaccurate or off-topic, I just needed to voice my opinion.)
/x/ please, if that were true it would have been a white male setup as the shooter and not a muslim.
Its their job to stop them.
They likely had thousands of calls in a matter of only a few minutes. They probably weren't ignoring his call, simply unaware of it.
dont you remember the "body cam" video supposedly of the first responding officers and literally nothing was inside (and it took days for the video to come out as well)
They could have shot at every window of the hotel and still saved lives.
no...there was atleast 1 officer(s) was at floor 32 at 10:20 and told to back off
"You don't need a gun to defend yourself, the police will do that!"
"Do you really expect the police to put themselves in harms way to protect you? They are scared of dying just like everyone else!"
they had to give the cia agents time to suicide the scape goat and set up all the "evidence" and get out before SWAT came in
I think those are 2 different people.
SOP for pokice are to run away and cordon off the area. After the shooting stops, go in with swat and shoot the first person they can pin the crime to and call it a day, maybe setup some photos or body cam vids to keep people talking about it.
>implying
forcescience.org
Even other pigs know it's stupid. They just watch too much CNN and attend too many safety focused briefings. There would've been nothing standing in the way of having a couple patrol officers with level 4 vests and rifles there in ~20min besides a lack of preparation and training. Those can all be kept in cars and officers can be immediately dispatched to the area when they get several calls reporting a mass shooter. From there it's a matter of having dispatch keeping them updated on whatever the best location they've received is or officers immediately interviewing anybody on scene for that information.
Enough officers to establish a perimeter is generally enough to handle an active shooter given good training and equipment.
Listening to the police scanner most of the cops sounded scared absolutely shitless. Having some beat cops be forced into raiding a heavily armed man in an elevated position isn't going to happen quickly, they're scared and want swat with them, if they even managed to grab their rifles before leaving their cars.
Source?
this
>guy has what you think is a full-retard rifle mowing people down
>you are LVPD beat cop with a G23 and 2 mags
>never fire except for quals
Do you:
>rainbow six vegas it and die
or
>fuck it, I'll wait for SWAT
I agree, something's just fucky on this one.
all that money and military surplus that major city police get from the DHS. the Vegas police should have set up gunshot direction finders up at such a major public event, and had someone trained in counter sniper with an AR10 on scene.
If i had my M16A4 and ACOG from my last unit with me and I was at the festival. I could have shot the guy or at least suppressed him and made him hero himself sooner.
my commo section of my first unit could have kicked doors and taken him out with just pistols.
this isn't hard training.
>also, since when do cops talk to eachother like a fucking girlfriend telling her boyfriend to be careful walking downstairs in the dark cause the circuit breaker tripped and he cant see that well?
>the fuck? "becareful, why not just wait for swat honey"
What the fuck are you talking about?
The police had absolutely no fucking idea what they were walking into, for all they knew it could have been half a dozen guys armed to the teeth, hostages, the hallways/rooms wired up with explosives etc
Of course they're going to be fucking careful about how they approach the situation.
Grow the fuck up and use some common sense.
>Believing Sup Forums
Mods please start banning false flag threads.
Can you please provide a source OP?
Yeah, Sup Forums is bad and never right about everything.
Any idea how this bullet got here?
posted this in the wrong thread, reposting here
Even with pandemonium on the streets, one officer has clearly identified where the shooting is coming from:
“I'm inside the Mandalay Bay on the 31st floor, I can hear the automatic fire coming from one floor ahead, one floor above us.”
“Repeating, just be advised it is automatic fire. Fully automatic fire from an elevated position. Take cover.”
“That is correct, it’s fully automatic fire. I'm right below it.”
Outside, frustration grows.
“We’re taking gunfire. It’s going right over our heads. There’s debris coming over our heads. We're pinned down here with a bunch of civilians.”
"We can't worry about victims, we need to snuff the shooter before we have more victims! Anybody have eyes on him, on this shooter?"
>“Hey officers, please stay calm, just relax, we’re trying to get this set up.”
You're going up against one guy with the element of surprise, he's either wearing ear pro and therefore can't hear or he's just fired several hundred rounds in a room and can't hear and all his attention is directed out the window. Get up there, kick the door and shoot him in the back. You're up against a 64 year old man whose already focuses away from the door, cops have basic room clearing training and two cops mean they had strength in numbers.
If police departments are going to request these gargantuan amounts of money for shit like APCs and machine guns and bomb squads they need to actually act like operators when the shit hits the fan, not pussy out completely.
That's not a source
Idk probably literally exactly how all the other ones did you retard
also notice how all the MSM articles are talking about how "quickly" the cops responded, listing the 10:20 report of knowing he was on the 32nd floor but then leaving out the part where they didnt enter the room until 1 HOUR LATER
By 10:20 p.m., there are some indications the shooting has stopped, although it is not clear.
“It's been awhile since we've heard any shots. Does anybody have eyes on the shooter?”
A later transmission indicates that the shooting may have ended about 10:25.
At 10:24 p.m., officers report from the stairwell just outside the gunman’s door.
“I’m on the 32nd floor. The room is going to be 135.”
“It’s room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need the SWAT.”
At 10:28 p.m., as SWAT teams gather on the 32nd floor
Over the next 50 minutes, officers secure the floor and ready several SWAT teams.
At about 11:20 p.m., they explode a door-breaching device, and enter to find the suspect dead
The same way all the other casings (not bullets you gigantic fucking retard) got there, they were ejected from one of his weapons.
Then at some point he blew his fucking brains out, slumped to the floor and the blood flowed out and around the casings.
It's not fucking rocket science.
I still see absolutely no source but what you're taking from /x/ my guy
Any cop doing anything to distract the shooter would have saved lives. One of them should have done something.
>You're going up against one guy
How do you know it's one guy? You're basing your entire assessment of the situation on what's known now, not then. How fucking retarded are you?
its called any fucking article about the fucking night
i literally posted one already fagget >35364372
also every fucking MSM website has similar articles about the "speed of teh police responce"
Shooting back would stop him from shooting down at the people, I think.
hmm he does look a little bit familiar to me
you're right, better to stay back and let swat handle it, 1 hour after stacking up on the confirmed floor
Fucking hell. I hope this is some kind of kick in the pants to reorganize how they address active shooters, sitting around and locking down absolutely everything before handling the threat just gives the guy a massive window to do damage.
I thought part of being a cop was to lay down your life for citizens if it came to that, not let the citizens bullet sponge for you to buy time to ensure you're making the absolute safest breach for you and your fellow piggys because lol fuck the citizens, my ass is the most important.
Yeah I know, because it didn't take an hour for police to respond
The entire premise of your thread is fake news and you should really get some help about the voices man, no one else can hear them.
>1 hour after stacking up on the confirmed floor
More like 1 hour of fat ameritards climbing 31 flights of stairs.
Just judging by the width of the room windows it would be hard to have more than two shooters actually firing and with the ongoing gunshots you can't hear more than one gun ever firing. If you think about it for all of 5 seconds you'd realize at most its one guy in the room, MAYBE two. Even if it was several it would be better to go up there and fire through the door to draw attention away and try to suppress him to keep him from firing out the window.
Yeah actually if you look at that picture he has a point. How does blood end up behind the bullet? It wouldn't flow like that on carpet...
It would also cause the crowd to assume whoever was shooting back was actually part of the attack.
Yes it would
Absolutely. Valhalla will open its doors.
Immortan Joe shall finally witness me.
i know, they were at the door within 5 minutes of the first officer arriving
then stood around for 1 hour before breaching, which they announced over live radio
The shooting only lasted about 10 mins
It's a bet on a better than 90% probability, the vast majority of mass shooters are lone gunmen. A couple of officers is more than match for almost any active shooter, more importantly they're armed and the civvies aren't.
Then this is a failure of the police.
You have 20,000 FUCKING PEOPLE, contained in a tight, difficulty escaped cage essentially, next to 400 to 500 feet high SNIPERS NESTS.
Why the fuck, in this day and age, were cops not out
>In force
>With armor and gear
>With rifles
>With SWAT on call
>With first responders on call for a minutes notice
This was a complete failure of the Police, an honest to God embarrassment. In this day and fucking age, how could you not IMMEDIATELY see some fucking retard snackbaring the crowd, running them over with a fucking Semi truck, or as seen, fucking shooting the crowd up.
Thanks to the CIA and Meda, this is the world we live in.
yep
they definitely should have, but hindsight is 20/20
cops are people too, and people can be cowardly, stupid, and passive
which is also suspicious as fuck
also the report about the supposed fire alarm going off has zero proof and they shut down the elevators, why the fuck would people be in their rooms if the fire alarm was going off, it doesnt just sound in 1 room
I'm honestly sort of surprised he didn't booby-trap the door.
yes, official story said 7.62 and 556
Because literally everyone understood there was an active shooter
But again
The PREMISE of your thread is wrong, it did not take 1 hour for police to raid the room, regardless of what some idiot boomer vet claims
Listen to the scanner, most were preoccupied trying to help the wounded and were pinned under heavy fire themselves, as most responded to the concert grounds not the casino initially. Come on guys, let's disregard everything and sprint to the casino under a hail of gun fire from unknown assailants with no cover!
there are reports he had a camera setup, a bunch of MSM articles first said it was showing outisde his door to see when cops were arriving, but then recent ones say it was setup inside to record himself
probably for the agents and staffers watching live
ala Obama an his staff during the photo-op shot during the "bin laden killing"
>Why the fuck, in this day and age, were cops not out
Vegas, brah.. There are huge events going on nonstop in Vegas. And police can only really react once shit goes down. They did okay really.
the cops were already in the casino and at the door within 20 min
then told to "be safe and wait while we set this up" for 1 hour
literally every mass shooting has these inconsistencies in early reporting
fuck, every major news story has it, it's a function of how fast news moves today
any information, no matter the source or accuracy is printed and then reprinted by everyone else in an effort to get the story out the door as fast as possible
you'll find the exact same thing in hurricane/tornado reporting
you see it in shootings where Sam Hyde is reported as the shooter repeatedly and youtubers are reported missing/dead with no substantiation, and then real news outlets report it
fuck, my buddy got a DUI and the local patch.com page reported him as having a bunch of other traffic violations and a previous DUI that actually were his dad's and he never did get any of it retracted
fillipino, huge ISIS presence there
>knock knock its room service
>paddock opens door
>CIA agent shoots him
>takes out full retard rifle and shoots the concert up for a while
Imagine being this insane lol
It's also a firefighters job to save people in fires, but they aren't supposed carelessly fling themselves into an inferno to do so.
Vets are insufferable cunts. Maybe John Rambo should've taken him out himself.
Firefighters will actually risk themselves to save people or actively try to stop the fire, to my knowledge they never sit around for 50 minutes pulling out hoses and shooting the shit.
i hope you're talking about him
nypost.com
>im angry at dumb shit the post
When are assault trucks being banned
>Firefighters will actually risk themselves to save people or actively try to stop the fire
Firefighters tend to have a pretty good idea as to what they're walking into though, ergo, a fire. Hell they probably even know what kind of fire it is and have a pretty good idea of the risks before proceeding.
None of that applies to a situation like this.
I will admit that part is odd, but I meant the initial officers shitting their pants when the bullets started flying.
Maybe those police were placed up there beforehand, I don't know this whole thing is fucky. But I wouldn't criticize the poor fucks that had to be down at the concert surrounded by people bleeding out.
No
I'm talking about you.
So why didn't he barricade the door? He could've pushed all the furniture in front of the door to prevent entry. Unless someone needed to leave the room...
Bottom line is this should've never happened. Mandalay Bay Resort is a gun free zone! Why didn't he respect their policies?
/EXACTLY
It's amazing how little people even check shit anymore. The goold ol Captain We tu lo was probably when I started to think the news is slightly retarded.
>shut it down
>the Goyim know
>protect and serve is literally your job discription
>fail to do either
>wonder why no one respects you
ishygddt
>Captain We tu lo was probably when I started to think the news is slightly retarded.
Fuck was that ever funny. I agree tho. Big news corps are ridiculously bad at waiting for confirmation and fact checking.