Let me see if i can knock together the general theory of the Vegas shooter:
>Guy is FBI, may be actual agency, may be civvi >Runs/deals guns, turns people over, he's not in-agency so most don't suspect him >gambles a bunch because why the hell not >gets ready to do recent deal
Now here's where i think things start to spool off. I've cobbled together something that sounds alright-ish?
>nervous about job, or maybe just want to relax a bit, ship gf out of country >go to do the deal >sweet mother of christ that's a lotta guns >also more people involved then is normal/comfortable >someone spooks, squeal, someone finds something, whatever the reason deal goes to drek
this is where i can't seem to fit the next bit.
>gun runners tell old guy to shoot up shit, blame fbi, or they'll do something nightmarish to him and his, set up cameras to make sure >runners grease old guy, shoot up the concert and leave old guy behind for evidence >possible old clients, not new, convince old guy to blow away civvies for cause, whatever that is >old guy is actual total patsy, part of larger op, either gets regret or retired at the end
We're never going to see those supposed recordings are we? if they would even just say what was fucking on the tapes it'd clear all this up...the fact that they're being kept tight is kinda suspicious.
They're holding on tight to evidence because if this is as large as everyone is thinking, they don't want mass hysteria breaking out and people knowing there was a bomb at the Luxor and possible multiple jihadi terrorists running through the country armed, which may mean even more sleeper cells in the US.
They want to have all the info they can before the release it. At least LVPD does. I don't know bout the media, they're a lost fucking cause.
Carter Roberts
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Aaron Adams
Starting to feel like November 4th isn't just going to be Antifa. What if Antifa has allied with ISIS for a global threat?
William Ramirez
That's one of the things, i get that shit is going to be hazy for a bit, it takes a while to put all the bits together, but it seems super weird that something this heavy would only get a few days coverage until MSM goes back to muh ruskies.
I don't think it was a crisis actors-false flag type bit, but there are some pretty huge holes here and there that are too glaring to ignore. I have a hard time blaming ISIS just because it's so damn easy to blame everything on them, but there's all the reports of multiple people and such. Actually didn't hear about the bomb bit, i know some people on twitter were saying shit happened in other casinos.
I think the PD needs to release something, and likely in the next few days, if only to settle the rumor mill a bit, otherwise this is looking to get way, way out of hand, if it isn't already...
Alexander Baker
ISIS strikes me as too arrogant to work with antifa, and it doesn't seem like their goals line up long term.
I'm betting the 4th will be another fucking lame duck, much as i'd love to see antifa get their shit pushed in nationwide. i'm hoping all this doesn't have anything to do with some kind of larger plot, but again, it's starting to seem like there's a hell of a lot more going on.
John Mitchell
The girl is involved in this some way. Her immigration sponsor was CIA Maybe she set him up or maybe she radicalized him like San Bernadino. It is also very interesting ALL the focus is on the guns he had. The fact he had ammonium nitrate at multiple locations is being swept under the rug.
Just the camera this guy set up under the plates (pic related) shows this is a professional. And why did he stop shooting after 9 minutes? Nobody entered his room for 70+ minutes, why would he kill himself after 9 min with all that ammo in the room and nobody threatening to enter the room? If he was just going to stop after 9 min what was the reason for so many weapons and so much ammo?
Second interview with the brother. Dude is singing like a canary.
Gavin Morris
Or, regular guys shoots up a bunch of people and kills himself in a blaze of demented glory.
Why are you trying to make up complicated fantasy bullshit?
Andrew Murphy
>not available in your country Do you have a non jewish link?
Aiden Price
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Isaiah Gutierrez
checked, also that bugged me as well. Cameras, assloads of guns, some pretty fancy too, the crime scene showed his ammo stack and a lot of the stuff about looked rather professional. Yet supposedly this was a guy with no real history with guns beyond a hunting rifle.
I wouldn't be fucking surprised if he had some kind of booby-trap on the door or hallway. Either this guy somehow became a professional operator in a few weeks, there were some hardasses in the room who knew how to do this shit, or his "regular joe" bit was a fucking cover.
No thats just shows cia ties, aka leftwing ZOG ties operator ties to psyops and hoaxes and dirty dealing, telling or contracted a spook to pretend to be a mass shooter as par tof a psyop is THEIR DEAL...the audio evidence and visual evidence shows and proves no 32 floor shooter, and quite frankly any real shooters. JUST DHS lying their asses off as usual concerning a false flag drill psyop. Compare the first shots at the concert amongst the crowd footage to the taxi footage...not consistent AT ALL.
Levi Taylor
>regular guy >gets a solid arsenal together >without a hint or whisper to anyone >manages to get it into a casino hotel without alerting anyone >sets up multiple cameras and secures door >unloads enough ammo to start a small war >in the dark from a high angle >no motive, no release from cops, no hints from those who knew him
I get that people go nuts, but there's too much weird shit that happened with this. Maybe there's a logical explanation, and we'll look rather stupid, but for now there is a suspicious freezeout on any information. Which is how fantasy bullshit starts anyway.
I want this to be fantasy bullshit, user, but i have a sickening feeling it's not, not as much as i'd like.
Colton Johnson
The fatigues guy was on the scanner, i heard it
Joshua Ward
i feel like the note has a good chance of filling in some of these pieces that are seemingly missing.
Jason Turner
Fuck off shill.
Eli Kelly
Both Antifa and Isis are Mossad creations.CIA is filled with Israeli dual citizenship due to Jewish ladder boosting. This is all going according to plan. They start the civil war, wipe out gorillion of white people, and establish the new Jewish controlled pseudo Soviet state in the wake of the Carnage.
They’re still crafting the note based on observing what details have emerged so far to align with the narrative
Source: I work close to the people involved in this setup
Jacob Reed
>freezeout on any information
This is what sets off the most bells about all this. Yes, it's only been a few days, but we ALWAYS know more about these shooters by now. Usually within a couple of hours we know just about everything about these people. With this guy, we basically know nothing. Fuck the only pictures we have are with his eyes closed and a mugshot when he has no criminal record.
Carter Williams
he's just a high IQ guy with a chip on his shoulder. The biggest psychos are usually quiet and calculated.
Well, either that or he's a spook
Zachary Barnes
No you don't stop LARPing faggot.
Austin Flores
What is so fucking hard to figure out here? YOU CAN IDENTIFY A PREDATOR BY ITS PREY. Why shoot up a country music show? TO KILL AS MANY WHITE PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. SPECIFICALLY TRUMP VOTERS. This guy is another Leftwing, racemixing White-hating assassin just like the bozo who shot up the Republican baseball team. This is why his motive is so "mysterious." You're own denseness about it shows how programmed the media has made us all.
Benjamin Carter
Listening to his brother and it's seems highly likely he was a criminal with psychopathic tendencies. He is saying all sorts of incriminating shit.
Cameron Rodriguez
Guy, wants to go down in history, as the one who triggered gun control in the US. But if he says that it won't happen, that's why you don't know his motive.
Jack Nelson
So wait, there's a camera set up on this cart?
Eli Sullivan
Yes, sheriff confirmed at news conference yesterday. You can see the wire coming from the plates on top right of cart.
under those 2 upsidedown plates on the far side, you can see the wire
Elijah Flores
keep hearing on the news that he setup cameras in the hallway so he could see police coming, and that he had cameras recording himself doing the shooting. where is this footage?
Brody Turner
He keeps mentioning Hell. Little does he know, Steve is in Jannah with his 72 virgins
Luke Perez
most likely the dude did this to make people pay for being so pro-Trump and pro-guns. hence the target and weapon selection
he may or may not have streamed his antics to his ideological buddies. if the footage never surfaces, they were either wealthy or high ranking leftists that he wanted to impress but who in either case won't be stupid enough to disseminate the footage. if the footage does surface, they were bona fide ISIS or some shit
Luis Johnson
Bingo. It's occums razor. Look at the actual facts and lack of motive. You cannot reach any other conclusion Farleft, anti-white, anti-conservative, revolutionary. He wants the guns taken away so that the Communist take over can begin. Again. Just like Oct 1917.
Jose Sullivan
>Yes, sheriff confirmed at news conference yesterday.
A recording of the incident would help understand. Hopefully they wrap the investigation up this afternoon.
Xavier Bell
They already are aligned in Europistan. It will happen
Noah Cook
Yes, the plates that are turned over are concealing a Logitech C930 that was connected through a USB extension cable which he monitored from his laptop. The video was live but was not recording.
The camera closest to the windows was being saved to the computer.
Owen Moore
He said they're almost done with investigation in concert area but still have days to go with investigation in hotel room.
Juan Smith
If he's a party, why he post smug pic related just before the shooting
Lucas Cook
Patsy*
Christopher Hernandez
Was he a spook, user? Was he framed? What happened?
Luke Flores
I like the beg-the-question meme that "he's obviously insane, he killed 50 people!" as if our species hasn't evolved to be incredibly violent and violence is often very rational. People this smart and low-time preference aren't acting completely irrationally, they have a reason. The longer that reason is covered up, the more likely the cover up *is* the story.
Joseph Rodriguez
Tell me with a straight face that his brother isn't a lib. The shooter has the commie look too. If you have met diehard commies you can tell. Crusty old unfit pedo with das kapital up his ass. Xray his body and you will see.
Lincoln Brooks
Yeah literally. I've met a few psychos in my time, his brother seems right on. "I'm smarter than the average bear. I have no criminal record because I was smart enough to hang around people who were dumb enough to get caught before me" Yeah this part is fucking fishy as hell. Is he straight up incriminating HIMSELF? I really believe that Steve just went psycho. I don't think this was political. The tumor could have been in the frontol lobe causing him to go full postal, combine that with a life of disregard of law and human life (like most libs) and his first thought is to mow down a crowd.
Charles James
>gf
Confirmed spook. I think the term isn't "girlfriend" but "handler".
Either MK-Ultra programmed to do shooting or shot before shooting started by (((somebody))) and shooting itself carried out by Mossad/CIA/ISIS (same thing).
Either way, his handler knew enough to get the fuck out of Dodge before shit jumped off, and it seems (((Someone))) knew enough to rally OSIS stock almost a week ago.
Perhaps NostradamusAnon didn't even get a head's up from an actual agency. If you know what to look for you can spot these things. A guy I know predicted 9-11 attacks "Something big is about to go down in Afghanistan" based on copper futures and other currency/commodities markets.
Follow the money find the motive.
Of course there's more to it. At its heart the world government/communism/NWO/whatever you want to call it is a religion.
Connor Hall
The brother sounds proud of Steve.
What the fuck.
Jaxon Cooper
To the fucker leaning on the fucking car...
RUDE.
Jace Reed
he was a crazy guy with a gun who cares
Evan Myers
He wasn’t alone in the room - I will tell you that. A few posters are on the right track regarding the number of people inside during the shooting. “Steve” never touched any of the firearms. The footage if ever leaked will not be “clear” in order to reinforce legitimacy.
Matthew Adams
>32 floor
32 degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. Also the symbolism of the pyramid, sphinx, and obelisk overlooking the sacrifice.
Jaxon Wood
you actually think thats not a troll acount
Angel Thomas
What the shitlib media will never tell you in previous cases is psychos dont do this sort of thing. Calm collected organised killers are not crazy. Crazy psychos and people who snap are dribbling spastics.
Owen Phillips
the weapon selection was to make political hay
the surveillance was probably to make sure the coast was clear respond to any effort to interrupt him before he finished his work... but yeah it might have been to assist the escape of anyone that might have been party to the crime, but I don't want that to be true because that greatly increases the chance that the casino was in on it too and that we're ruled by absolute monsters
Landon Ross
My theory:
Paddock is some type of arms dealer / gun runner / whatever - and "Casino Gambler" / "Slot Machine Player" is his 'front'.
Someone (terrorists?) want to buy 25+ guns, bump stocks, 2000+ rounds of ammo, explosives, etc. Can you do this Stephen?
Paddock says sure. We can meet in 4 months at the Mandalay. I'll have everything there for you, in suitcases, you can inspect yourself.
Get everything. Meet up. Oh shit... one of the buyers shoots Stephen. They had no intention of leaving with all the weapons. Open fire on crowd below, leave weapons and dead body in room for authorities.
Remember, The shooting only lasted like 11 minutes and it was like 60 minutes since the last shot before the authorities entered the room to discover his dead body.
Gavin Reyes
good info from the other night
Camden Phillips
Would it could mean is someone working there helped him. Not the casino but someone who knew about the casinos security.
Benjamin Edwards
"Going psycho" doesn't make sense. He had a reason to do what he did and I think it's got a lot to do with his girlfriend and the $100k transfer to the Philippines.
It's very possible ISIS is involved and that psychopathy+Islam is a very, very deadly mix.
Angel Wood
This might be nothing, but I found this on facebook earlier.
Landon Jackson
This isn't bad. Plus the reports of folks seeing suspicious men leaving MB elevators in a hurry. One thing I know is that we don't have any video or stills of him checking in, of the elevator cams, of hallway traffic. That in and of itself is extremely suspicious. I think they show other people coming and going and would be an obvious tell - this guy was not alone during his stay.
Leo James
What will it take for someone like you to be a Patriot and spill the beans for the sake of our country? At what point will someone leak what happened?
The “evidence” is as tightly controlled as you can imagine.
Nicholas Foster
It's possible he was already a bit of an unhinged lunatic. Maybe he fantasized about being a massmurderer all his life, and now was the time to do it because he was going to be hit by the mexican cartel he was trading with? Go out with a bang?
Here's my argument with the gun-law theory: If Steve wanted to push gun control laws, why might Steve or Steve's gf or whatever benefit from these laws? Surely he must know as an intelligent individual that his incident would at most take away certain automatic rifles. Hillary was tweeting about SILENCERS. How is taking away silencers going to usher in some communist revolution?
Ayden Moore
>ISIS Antifa and ISIS are teaming up to smash capitalism, possibly why paddock may have been at anti Trump rally, recruiting betas for fodder
Andrew Scott
Is LVMPD user from yesterday real or a LARP?
Cameron Phillips
Why would any christian visit a concert in a gambling city right next to a black pyramid? They must be blue-pilled as fuck.
Juan Lee
the casino cameras are on all the time. and probably a mix of fixed cams and supervised hey, check out what's going on over there cams. during a clusterfuck like this, those supervised cams would be checking out everyone who looked suspicious or not suspicious enough. everyone who used an elevator in that time period would be caught on camera, and extra special attention would be paid to anyone using the stairs during that time
there's no way anyone working with the dude could have escaped without the casino or their security team being in on it
Adrian Phillips
Where does the girl figure in to all this? Has anyone else noticed that his relationship to him seems to have changed almost randomly? Girlfriend, roommate, it seems that nobody's super sure what their actual current relationship was.
Is she actually a plant of some type? Maybe alphabet, maybe something else, acting as point of contact with her pet boomer? Play a little nice, stroke some withered balls, and suddenly you have someone willing to do whatever. How long were they "involved", does anyone know?
Nathaniel Watson
Dude that family is weird as fuck.
Aiden Nguyen
if he were a spook arms dealer, would he bother with stuff like bump stocks? i'm not a big false flag guy, but this one is odd...
Aiden Taylor
64-year-old with a girlfriend What has america turned into
Ayden Collins
Cameras are only in the Casino and elevators, right? Not the the hallways on the floors with the rooms?
What if they people involved had a room on the same floor? You'd seem them enter / exit the elevator on the 32nd floor (to be expected) but you'd never see them enter his room.
Henry Anderson
How else would you legally acquire that much shit under the radar, be as lawful as possible
Brandon Jones
holy shit
Jacob Garcia
Exactly. The lack of ANY stills of any kind is amazing at this point.
Juan Watson
Biggest thing is how even the most normie sheep libtard zombie thinks this is suspicious.
Robert Stewart
Just nervous they are going to confiscate his hard drive and find some questionable images. I mean... look at that guy. Come on.
Charles Hall
that's kind of how it looks. I don't think he was a gov't operator though.
Juan Torres
No, not real.
Ryan Young
ISIS is claiming responsibility and the feds are withholding motive information. ISIS also threatened to attack Vegas a few months ago. They don't do this stuff willy nilly.
The only reason the police are withholding that information is if it's a national security issue and ISIS is actually involved.
Interesting thing was it eerily worked to a degree. There are republicans doing "180 on gun control" as the msm is saying. It is exactly what they want.
Evan Cox
I think the hotels basically know the guests will be up to shady shit (hookers, whatever) and give them privacy so there isn't any evidence.
Gabriel Cook
Most of the interview is just him covering for Mary Lou, and bragging about how baller he was. If he was so wealthy and having so much fun in life, he doesn't shoot up a country music concert and stick a gun in his mouth. The brother is trying to be a character witness for his brother and Mary Lou, but is just making the official narrative that much less believable.
Cooper Foster
>>possible old clients, not new, convince old guy to blow away civvies for cause, whatever that is
Didn't that LVMPD user say "he was in deep to the wrong people" or something along those lines? Maybe you're wrong about when they discovered the deal was sour too. They could have showed up in force because they already knew he was a rat, and they were bringing him the ultimatum to now do this or truly suffer. I also think though that this whole camera thing seems weird and like an attempt to pin the murders on the patsy again. it makes a lot more sense than they just shot him, then shot up the crowd on their way out. Trying to pin the murders on Stephan just doesn't seem right to me. What are they going to really threaten him with exactly other than jsut deaht, which killing all these people will already mean anyway? Wasn't he unmarried, no kids? Nothing really to target. I still say it was just an arms deal gone sour, the dealer murdered, and the buyers doing some damage on their way out, multiple shooters, not Stephen. He's just the arms dealer, not the actual murderer.
Ryan Gray
the flip side is it may be a alphabet agency job that got off the hook, and they don't want to come out and say a bunch of civvies got shot by guns their taxes paid for. I think if it was external we'd know by now, that ISIS claim was about as robust as a kid on the playground calming to be fireproof after the kid playing the dragon lights him up.
Eli Gray
It's actually real...
But still, pretty vague. Not enough to conclusively say that this was anything more than a LARP
Jason Anderson
>a few psychos in my time, his brother seems right on.
Yeah, I think that whole family should be locked up. Plus the diazepam he was taking probably made it even worse.
Cooper Morgan
Is anything known about the people that put on the concert? What about the security guards at the concert? Also does anyone remember the thread with a CIA user the night this happened? Probably a LARP but he was talking about Islamic terrorism still being a threat.
Joshua Jenkins
Nah. Deep state. His Phlip gf needed the weapons for some guerilla shit back home. Feds caught wind, showed up as the buyers and pulled this stunt to fuck shit up because Trump.
