Hey, yo, /leftypol/ here. Britbong variety.Full on commie, member of an antifa group, member of anarchist groups, bookshelf full of Marx, Lenin and Kropotkin, Graeber. I believe in international proletarian revolution. Biji Rojava.
Anyway, as you have all probably no doubt seen, there is a Tory policy at foot to make the viewing or terrorist material or far right material a criminal offence punishable by up to 15 FUCKING YEARS in prison.
Now, I fucking hate you cunts, I hope you all get the gulag and that it hurts you real fuckin' bad. The thing is, I regularly and repeatedly view material that could be viewed as terrorist, and that material is essential for any dissident, left or right. If you guys want to win, this law needs to get to fuck, if my guys want to win, this law needs to get to fuck. If it doesn't get to fuck, the liberals power is consolidated.
Some sort of dual action truce should be formed and we should fight this is any way possible.
i hate orwell. fought in the pathetic spanish revolution on the ancom side.
William Flores
You're going to get hung either by us or your globalist masters
Nicholas Foster
Orwell was an edgy faggot, like you.
David Jones
>Orwell >Marxist
Tyler Anderson
>left >globalist masters
>implying globalism has masters
you don't understand Capital, or how (many) leftists see capitalism.
>it's got a logic of it's own.
basically capitalism encourages "degeneracy" (IE: the breakdown of social/cultural structures/divisions) through economic "creative destruction".
>Capitalism doesn't give a shit about morals, at most it's about appearing moral-enough for marketing purposes, but they'll happily sell porn because porn makes money. >Likewise Capitalist logic pushes for migration/immigration in order to lower the cost of labor in a country.
Quit thinking it has to be someone pulling the strings, realize instead that capitalism itself provides incentives for this behavior.
Henry Nguyen
Nationalist radicalism is the solution. Communism is the useful pawn of globalist capitalism.
Kayden Gray
being a supporter of communism is a punishable crime. boy oh boy would it be easy if there were l33t h4x0rs to find out who you are and report you to authorities.
Jaxson Long
This is utter nonsense. Give me one instance of this being the case, of communists defending the status quo. I'm not talking american college kids. I'm talking history. The russian revolution, spanish civil war, the cold war. If communists are the globalists why did the US, the seat of 'globalism', repeatedly try to kill Fidel Castro and why has it crushed every socialist or near socialist movement pretty much ever? Socialists were banned from trade unions in America under the taft hartley act, why would they do this? We are the real enemy of capital, Nationalist radicalism in the sense you talk about has only ever propped it up. Nationalist radicalism is fine, if it is a national liberation movement such as the Irish struggle or the Kurdish struggle rather than a supremacist movement.
Levi Lewis
get the fuck out of pol leftard
Angel Flores
non argument. Have it your way, as is plain to see, the liberals are coming for you first
Anthony King
>utter nonsense In 1920 the Soviet Union tried to invade Poland and were nobly held back by the Polish who pretty much saved all of Europe. None of the capitalist powers did anything to help Poland in this matter and were silent, tails between their legs.
Then you flashforward to WW2 and you see the same fucking bullshit. The capitalist powers allowed and funded the entire USSR in their conquest of half of Europe which led to the victory of market internationalism. You think you're anything but a fucking pawn? You are street thugs for world finance that's all you have ever been.
Of course Socialist were banned Stateside do you think they actually want you around? You have uses: destroying the framework of society and creating a herd like mob in which to govern over but you have your limitation too. When you are no longer needed they dispose you .This already happened.
You can make a change though. You can realize where you went wrong and you can burn all that shit you brainwashed yourself with.
Jace Sanchez
Why do you think they call us Nazis we dont seek any allies we are hated by all, it strengthens us
Carter Morris
"We're Fascists, we fight everybody!"
Brayden Jackson
I agree, I want the doctor delivering my baby to make the same wages as the hospital janitor cleaning the toilets. The only incentive the doctor needs is a rifle pointed at his head by a guy who makes as much money as a doctor.
Joshua Martinez
Maybe you'll be surprised but stick arounf here longer and you'll realize people here are charlatan kids who adore authority. In a commie state they would be Stalinists. But being a Nazi is more edgy and they like the aesthetics.
Lincoln Smith
In 1649 to St. George's Hill A ragged band they called the Diggers came to show the people's will They defied the landlords, they defied the laws They were the dispossesed reclaiming what was theirs 'We come in peace,' they said, 'to dig and sow' 'We come to work the land in common and to make the wasteground grow' 'This Earth divided, we will make whole' 'So it can be a common treasury for all' 'The sin of property we do disdain' 'No one has any right to buy or sell the earth for private gain' 'By theft and murder they took the land' 'Now everywhere the walls spring up at their command' 'They make the laws to chain us well' 'The clergy dazzle us with heaven or they damn us into hell' 'We will not worship the god the serve' 'The god of greed who feeds the rich whilst pepole starve' 'We work, we eat together, we take up swords' 'We will not bow to the masters or pay rent to the lords' 'We are free people though we are poor'
Not really, Liberals love you guys as you neo nazis ruin white nationalism. You're essentially unpaid controlled opposition and you're playing right into their game. Worshipping Hitler is the exact opposite thing to do if you're a true white nationalist.
Noah Edwards
true too many new kids pretending to be nazis when in fact their views are conservative at best
Anthony Morris
Why double LARP ? Just use the commie flag
Hunter Cox
Bro, you say you have the books... so re-read Marx theory about the inevitable rise of communism: 'Once ALL workers are proletarized communism will be inevitable' --- but what old Karl (which I read at 11) failed to understand is the power of globalism. And as long as there are new people to proletarize communism will not win.
I love the idea, but you must realize that it is utopian and outdated. Soviet could never outmatch USA because an idealistic system can't function in competition with a non-idealistic system.
Imagine the beta nice guy in competition with Chad. It's just not gonna work out.
And Carlitos ideas are outdated because we will be robotizized long before we will be proletarized, and the only sensible solution that fits into the visions of Marx are civil wages and such.
tldr; while I agree that "communism has never been tried" communist ideas are ideas of an industrial society and not the reality of the post modern world.
Plox keep fighting for freedom of speech and information - and realize that the grand majority really don't have ill will.
Gavin Adams
Because I'm not a communist. I'm a socialist but not a communist.
Zachary Perry
Remind me what side Shaw was on again?
Elijah Lee
kind-of? (assuming you mean Maoists stalinists and Leninists when you say "communists"), the hippies aren't much better.
You see as I see it, there's something about doing that that seems like trying to stop the tides to me, and thus I'm not sure any real movement has any real potential at the present.
The Nationalism espoused by putin and others, seems to expose a sort of impotence that lies at the heart of many nations today.
To put it another way, The banks are in control and there's nothing that can be done about it
due to the nature of global finance/capital. People will shout and try to blame "welfare niggers/hicks" but that's not actually the issue, the issue is that the tail(financial industry) is wagging the dog(the world's nations), there's fuck-all we can do about it since attempting anything could lead to nations and banks basically abandoning the US dollar, which would cause it's value to plummit, and likely lead to a lot of economic suffering for americans.
Jordan Russell
sure thing..so democrat on paper basically
Camden Lopez
You didn't answer a single one of my questions. Why attempt to kill Castro repeatedly? Why crush or attempt to crush every socialist revolution or democratic experiment, most of which were also NATIONALIST in character for example in Cuba, or Nicaragua, or Guatemala, or Chile, or Vietnam. Why was the entire cold war period spent wrestling with the USSR by proxy?
So the jews won WW2 and Russia was part of that, why then spend the next 50 years attempting to crush the USSR everywhere its influence arose.
Why all the Mcarthyist propaganda and the red scare?
if National Socialism is the true socialism, why has it failed to analyse it with the same depth that the communists such as Marx have? Why was it an anarchist who wrote the definite book on debt and debt slavery? (David Graeber) Why are all the large anticapitalist protests such as those who attempt to attack the g8 summit etc left wing? Why do Nazis talk so much about race, and almost never about capitalism, if you are the true anti capitalists?
Parker Carter
I hear you. But I'm thinking they probably are desentifying a lot more 'left' voters to going rightyright than they are scaring rightyrightys to the left.
Theorising, not trolling, tell me why I'm right or wrong while reminding me that I am a faggot.
Nicholas Mitchell
LOL you brought this upon yourself in your pathetic rainy island, Brits should have stood up for free speech a long time ago when it stood a chance, too late now
Josiah Bell
Well he did fight for a Marxist (though anti-Stalinist) militia in Spain, the POUM, as part of the Independent Labour Party contingent which was neo-Marxist at least. Whilst there he came to sympathise with the anarcho-syndicalist CNT-FAI which he realised was the biggest mass working class movement in Spain.
Hunter James
A law to lock anyone up for dissenting political views. I'm sure the definition of terrorist material will be rock solid and not at all open to the Home Secretary's interpretation.
Xavier Morales
>democrat I don't believe in Democracy and if you're talking about the party I think both parties and the entire 2 party system in America are retarded. Anyway, I'm more of a Strasserist if anything but I also think some of what Stalin did was good, same with Hitler but I completely resent him as he ruined white nationalism forever and betrayed the socialist part of the NSDAP.
Ryan Russell
brother, there is nobody more hated than orwell on the radical left, right, and sometimes center. as a fellow free man, I hear you and wish you well.
Isaac Sanders
ruined dude he fought against them the ones who ruined is the one that took the easy path quotes and left the nazi ideas why because they surrendered to (((their))) narrative
What do we have from Patton and Churchill who both disliked (((them))) but in the end they danced on their tune
Owen Lewis
>I read Marx aged 11 shit that just plain did not fucking happen. It is telling I get a better response from the Nazi than the kekhead.
>Soviet could never outmatch USA because an idealistic system can't function in competition with a non-idealistic system This is most basic bitch ass, ahistorical bullshit in this whole thread. Capitalism is an idealistic system, every system is idealistic. Capitalism centres around the notion that private property brings prosperity and stability. This is idealistic and certainly not true. The USSR couldn't match the US because before the Russian revolution it was a backwards agricultural nation where nobody could read, which the USSR flipped to the point space travel in a matter of decades. Its funny how its usually some gorillions meme, but then you do the virgin-niceguy thing like its a tool for historical analysis and not just an amusement generator
Jackson Foster
Shouldn't you be hanging out with Hope Not Hate, trying to defend muslim rape gangs from duh ebil izlamophobes who dare stand up for the thousands of British girls? That's all you leftie cunts ever do. You are the enemy of the working class.
Xavier Campbell
Marx stated very clearly that (((they))) WILL fight for what they concidered theirs. And while I do like that commies prepare for the day of the rope, because you know once you win the fight is just starting... I repeat... as long as it is nation against nation you cannot win because you can't corner your enemy.
US falls. New capitalist superpower iz China. Now what bitch? You just empoverished the US and let a differnt bully take power.
They tried to kill Castro etc. because it is the nature of (((power))) and (((possesion))).
National socialists ant communists/marxists aren't the same because INTERNATIONAL communism yay! (Which also is the root of multiculturalism - made to expediate global proletarization).
Really, try to re-read the books with your redpilled eyes. Critical. Any rightside deconstruction will sound silly to you - only YOU can see the faults of the canon.
Gabriel James
Before the war, white nationalism wasn't that big of a taboo in Western society with Stalin even deporting nonwhite races to the middle of no where in Siberia and Jim Crow in the USA but this all became a taboo after Hitler went to the extreme with it. I'm not defending Patton or Churchill, I'd have loved it if Hitler and Stalin remained friends without Hitler sperging out and defeated the western allies and of course, (((them))).
Justin Hill
yeahhh but the difference is the USA got to space without starving, killing, guloging etc..
Brayden Hernandez
and on that note..
Henry Russell
Do you have some Stirner on the bookshelf, op?
Personally, I don't view Anarcho-Communism (I'm assuming that's what you identify as) as an actual Anarchist ideology, but the more Anarcho-Bros we have, the happier I am.
Also, what are your thoughts on Ego-Anarchism? Do you think the only way we'll reach revolution is if we reach Symbiotic Anarchism and all work together?
Thomas Morgan
You sound like you are really popular with all the girls user. do you whiteknite about feminism and hold girls purses when they fuck rock bikers in alleys at the clubs too? Get the fuck out of here your vagina is showing.
Luke Moore
Also saged.
Kayden Flores
I believe in Santa Claus. Wanna be friends?
James James
The fact remains he was one of the rare that actually stood up to them in todays political landscape we have none to do it
we will sooner be replaced then rebel and it isn't his fault, every generation has to decide for itself you may not succeeded the first time but you will definitely succeed if you quit...
Xavier Diaz
>you will definitely not succeed if you quit.
Ryan Russell
Also, I'd like to mention that I loath Antifa and view them as a frivolous movement made and supported by people who don't even know what they're supporting. They're just a bunch of spooks.
Ryan Wilson
>USA a gud booi he dindu nuffin >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair >what the fuck is a proxy war >whoever heard of the CIA what are you a conspiracy theorist? >Middle east? Who fucking needs it. Fund ALL the Islamists right now! Mujihadeen? YES. Saudis? Oh fuck Yes >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965–1966 (funded by the US/UK >IN YOUR OWN GOD DAMN LIFETIME: Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. Fucking around in Ukraine, Honduras, This is not even to mention the debt slavery and financial pillaging that keeps the rest of the world, particularly africa, unable to develop.
Michael Moore
Im going to love it when commies finally get a healthy dose of their own medicine.
Eli Anderson
How about I post the last nudes I got from the last girl I banged, and you do the same, and who eventually runs out of nudes is the cuck mmkay?
Adam Scott
But holding on to old ideals which failed is exactly what not to do, you can respect the man but trying to repeat his failures is counterproductive.
William Morris
kill yourself cunt
Angel Green
>ipad posting >the compression
Andrew Mitchell
So many people already have no property and no realistic hope of acquiring any.
Evan Anderson
Fuck off traitor cunt.
Nolan Smith
But really, you have no arguments or historical analysis, you're just throwing ad hominems like a mad cunt. None of this shit is even close to an argument
Monopoly was invented as a critique of capitalism. Nice one bro
Angel Morales
Dont need property to starve to death or be worked to death in the gulag.
Andrew Parker
Bro, I honestly grew up in a communist home - and I grew up with POT wiretaps, Klassekampen subscriptions and various communist litterature - and the hate of the normies - just you imagine being a pro LGTB, atheist communist in the late 80's early 90's in redneck Norway.
In my early 20's I went anarchist, then I went into ancap land and now in my early forties I'm probably best described as a anti immigration social democrat conservative on values and liberal on business while protecting the rights of the workers.
Sorry for autobiography. But I truly studied these things for more than a decade - and the reason I left was not because I don't want this but that I clearly see, by the words of the founder and others that it will not work in my lifetime and my energies are better used elsewhere.
As to your second part: My interpretation is that Reagan drew USSR into what in essence was an economical war that ALMOST destroyed the US, but did destroy Soviet. And while I realize my historydegree from university is more or less useless - I havent seen better explanations for the fall of the CCCP.
Don't hesitate to lecture me, but spare me fucking opinions.
Cooper Roberts
So what ? Communism is shit either way
Luis Brooks
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Caleb Jackson
Good point, and no i don't support everything the USA does, but there is a big difference when the USSR Murders MILLIONS of it's own people, i mean that system INHERENTLY sucks for everyone to live under. meanwhile a vast majority of people in the US during the cold war just happily minded their own business and enjoyed making money for their families.
Easton Wright
>> Anyway, as you have all probably no doubt seen, there is a Tory policy at foot to make the viewing or terrorist material or far right material a criminal offence punishable by up to 15 FUCKING YEARS in prison.
Shows you the (((((powers that be))))) fear US, not you. You are not a threat to the elote caste of bankers and corporations, no, in fact YOU Antifa SJWs are their best grounds troops to push their social agenda.
Jordan Bell
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Adrian Jones
Of course it is, im calling into question your very philosophy. You leftist weakling cry babys have been in the friend zone all of your adult lives. I love fucking your girls, they love alpha cock. They also love coffee and shopping with with "friends". Its ok, no more hate. I don't hate you, you shouldn't hate me. We both get what we want from the same women, its all good. Take care user, the world needs Betas too.
Josiah Ross
Nice history lesson I got there, >communism is shit wow such an original thought I have never heard that before. >anti immigration social democrat conservative So you're who? Marine Le Pen?.. You just became a liberal who doesn't like immigrants. Liberalism is based around private property so it makes absolute sense.
Joseph Bennett
Why do you support the mass transportation of the third world into Europe?
Connor Cruz
If the UK goes Marxist, you'll simply get buttraped by ethnocentric Pakistani nationalists until you become a caliphate.
Effeminate Twitter landwhales don't make good soldiers.
James Reed
They don't see the threat at all. They will though and it will be hilarious.
Ian Harris
i wish you fuckers would come to the south with that shit lol you larping like a revolutionary would get fucked so quick.
Dylan Hughes
No it shows that you are autistic and sperg out by shooting random MPs and conducting machete attacks on random people,and that the general population lose nothing when you are crushed so most won't care and will let it happen. When you crush the far right you are crushing a bunch of street goons and some lone wolf headcases. When you crush the left you are crushing trade unions, tenants unions, generally the people who fight for better wages, working conditions and public services, free food programs, environmental campaigners. The left is the real workers movement and actually benefits the proletariat. You can't crush that so easily without people fighting for it.
Chase Clark
Orwell was a beta cuck
James Thompson
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Jose Howard
You claim to be intellectually superior, how can you not see one of the most basic history lessons of the last 100 years. This current crop of commies is somehow different and is going to make marxism work this time ?
Noah Wright
>shooting random MPs Kek this retard doesn't realise it was a last ditch attempt to get Brexit to fail by her own people.
Joseph Scott
Simply would not be happening if it was not for capitalist imperialism destabilising the middle east and making it shit. I support the global abolition of capitalism.
lol, shows you're nothing but a basic bitch SJW and banker bootlicker. Also, there's nothing close to a "far-right" in Britcuckoldistan after NA was banned for being a threat to the status quo, unlike you banking cartel shill.
Chase Butler
Anarchocommunist until he get's a real job. Hehe. Come back in five years silly boy. Also read the books of Che Guevara. Then you will understand why your ideology will never work, no matter how perfect YOU are.
Caleb Wilson
>after NA was banned for being a threat to the status quo >a threat to the status quo NA were just a bunch of edgy kids larping and worshiping Hitler, they were absolutely not a threat to the government.
Easton Hernandez
>Simply would not be happening if it was not for capitalist imperialism destabilising the middle east and making it shit.
The middle east was destabilized by LEFTIST JEWS.
Lucas Perez
It really wasn't true communism. You point at the problem in a non- discursive manner.
The issue is not really communism, nor capitalism nor (((them))) - the issue is one side refusing to realize the fact of the matter that is that communism can't happen under current conditions and the other side claiming 'communism doesn't work' when their side has been activly fighting and sabotaging the idea since the get-go.
Stooges all of you.
This is the first fucking communism thread I've entered and I'mma oldfriend enough to be firstgeneration summerfag - and the reason was that this young sir said we have important things to fight for - side by side.
Freedom of speech is in the very essence of things. I remember a time when my family was under surveilance for being reds, and I am living in a time where it is not unlikley I'm under watch for saying unspeakable things like gays are degenerate and technically insane or that I don't like the way my country has changed and that it seems to me that moslem immigration is at the core of that change.
John Reed
Why do political movements need an enemy? Uniting people for the common good of a country is the National Socialism dream. You don't need idols or ideals when you have a strong national identity. Making sure people are looked after and included is the social aspect needed to complement any country.
Nazis lost the ideals of National Socialism because they are a victim of the times that they where in power.
The Nazis had no scientific grasp of genetics, no model of DNA and only doctrine and religions to look for guidance.
Nationalism works best when a country strengthens it's own economy using it's own resources. The UK knew this by plotting all the natural minerals and fauna found in the country in an effort to find profit in those findings.
Capitalism and Greed led to outsourcing and undercutting. Instead of competing with an economy countries started stimulating countries other than their own in an effort to maximize profits.
The reason so many online companies succeed in the world is because they employ a form of national socialism, the Nation being corporate identity and Socialism being an inclusive and global network.
Government should be embracing National Socialism more making a clear distinction between the pure form of the governing party and expressing clear separation from fascists Germany (Nazi) ideals when (((they))) say that National Socialism is a governing policy that doesn't work.
Brayden Richardson
>NA were just a bunch of edgy kids larping and worshiping Hitler, they were absolutely not a threat to the government.
Apparently they were a big enough threat to warrant getting BANNED despite never doing anything. Shows you who the establishment fears, and it's not you leftist kike shills for sure.
Mason Collins
Don't bother mate he's clearly still at uni.
Christian Thompson
Nah, I'm still going to call out these leftist CHARLATANS wherever they appear.
Easton Myers
Good, now you see why free speech is important. Next week we'll learn about freedom of assembly.
Caleb Hughes
I'm Scottish mate. All of our fighting ready are reds. Scottish dawn has about 5 17-25 year olds who practice kick boxing the park. Anti Facist hooliganism has a huge historic precent of kicking you up and down all over Britain. Go outside, Asian lads don't want to make a caliphate, most of them sell me weed for fucks sake. They like cars and armani
Mason Scott
Nah, we ban pretty much every neo nazi group. You're making some pretty big assumptions anyway considering the fact I was hating on kikes earlier
Zachary Allen
If communism is so awesome, why does it always require an armed rebellion and purge to establish it ? Seems like we would naturally gravitate toward communism if it were in any way natural for humans.
Lucas Hill
couldn't give a shit about joe cox really, we are talking about it in the context of the liberal reaction, and it was hardly a revolutionary act, it was just an autist sperging out, which was what I called it.
>banking cartel shill Literally been pushing David Graeber and talking about Debt slavery all thread. Who do think conducts debt slavery if not banking cartels? Tell you what, give me a better analysis of the international banking system than this book and then call me a shill
Bentley Wright
You commie retards just dont get it. I was born in Yugoslavia, a former communist country. The end of the country was followed up with 250 thousand dead. Communists turned nationalist fighting each other for the privilege of being a dictator. That is what communism produces - dictators. Oh and mass murders.
Bentley Hernandez
>lobbyist for the reagan administration >leftist AHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Cameron Carter
>giving up your ancestral homeland to a bunch of invaders brought as cheap labor/debt slaves just because "dude weed lmao XDD" and willing to beat up anyone that opposes it
See, that's exactly what I meant with leftists being the biggest capitalist enablers.
Isaac Hernandez
Union worker here.
I will never side with Communists. Never. In fact, being a known Communist in my union will get you expelled, its literally written in our contract. Most Communists these days are bitches who live in their parents basements, while myself and all my fellow workers voted for Trump. The Left Wing made up of Champagne Socialists, half-assed academics and illegal immigrants that kill wages know nothing about the life or desires of the average American laborer or union worker.
Austin Kelly
Hey faggot ISIS is also banned does that make them cool bros?
Nathaniel Gomez
>trotskyite jew whose social agenda of anti-white dispossession perfectly alings with yours >not leftist
Leftist Neocons practically subverted and took over the American right-wing, expelling actual right-wingers like Pat Buchanan and shifting the overton window to the left.
Anthony Anderson
Yugoslavia was much better when it was communist and united. It got shit when it was nationalist and divided. Tito was the best thing that ever happened to that region of the world. Shame the world bank and the IMF fucked him with debt isn't it. Odd for somebody who was supposedly according to people in this thread part of the internationla banking conspiracy..
Angel Ortiz
>Go outside, Asian lads don't want to make a caliphate, most of them sell me weed for fucks sake. They like cars and armani
Cuck.
Also >scottish of course. You hardly have any moslems up there so you don't know what it's like when they have numbers. They've already got grooming gangs in Glasgow anyhow.
You pathetic teat sucking vermin exist only to parasite of the English and signal for rapefugees. The moslem population is doubling every decade of course so you'll get a proper taste soon enough. Of course you're looking forward to it because you're a leftist subhuman K type cuckhold.
