IM ACTUALLY SCARED

IM ACTUALLY SCARED

EVEN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN AND NRA MEMBERS ARE LOOKING INTO BANNING BUMP STOCKS

HOW CAN WE STOP THIS?

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>he uses a bump stock

Bumpfire is fucking retarded and if they want to ban that instead of banning something that actually matters then let them.

Ok. How about bump stocks for suppressors?

It would be pretty high on the list of incredibly stupid bans if they go through with it.

It stops literally nothing since you don't even need the stock to bump fire.

>they're gonna b& bump stocks!1!1!!!

I care and yet I don't really care. I suppose the extent of my caring is that banning a silly accessory is yet another slippery slope, but on the other hand bump stocks are garbage anyway.

>Banning guns and gun accessories is a political topic and not related to weapons


Go away misinformation shill

I agree if Repubs were smart they would learn to trade one thing for another. Bump fire stocks for suppressors I can live with.

>HOW CAN WE STOP THIS?
With bump-fire stocks.

Good. Bump stocks are retarded and pointless, I don't care if they get banned. Let them ban bump stocks, then they get to feel like they've done something, and leave our important rights alone.

>caring about meme stocks

>I don't care if they continue to infringe the 2a because it doesn't directly effect me

You spineless bootlickers are the reason its so hard to fight this unconstitutional bullshit in the first place

It's not just bump stocks bro, they're looking to ban anything that "accelerates the rate of fire".

abcnews.go.com/Politics/sen-feinstein-introducing-bill-ban-bump-stocks-vegas/story?id=50276506

Giving away rights because you don't personally exercise them isn't the way we do things.
I'm a total fud without any semiautos, but that doesn't mean I will let ARs get banned.

Purists like you are the reason the Libertarian Party will never crack 13% of the vote.
inb4 shill

>hurr duurr muh 2a
kys you fucking retard

>>> Sup Forumsddit

>didn't murder the last cop/congressman/senator he's seen IRL
>call others bootlickers

the ironing

I'd do everything in my power to get AR's specifically banned, fuck those faggot guns.

This is the dangerous part. She's the California crusader against all things fun and the California law has wording that is so broad that you'd lose quite a few things, not just bump stocks. If they specifically named bump stocks and only bump stocks, sure, whatever, I would put that up as a sacrifice. They'd leave it entirely open ended to the point they could argue your fingers are banned too.

When will this judenrat die?
>84 years old
the fuck

Uneducated shill
Leftists shill
Non argument murderer.

Banning a stupid meme accessory doesn't infringe the 2A. If they wanted to ban muh salt weapoms, I'd be 100% against them. If they wanted to ban handguns, I'd be 100% against them. If they wanted to enact universal background checks, or magazine capacity limits, or any other restrictions that actually impacts anything, I'd 100% be against them. But the bumpfire stock serves no purpose. It has no historical value. It doesn't make a gun any better, in fact it actively makes them worse. It's not useful for self defense or combat. It's a dumb toy and the only people who give half a fuck are the same class of paste-eating morons who go on public land, load broken refrigerators up with tannerite and then leave the debris all over the range.

This. The Progshitsives are willing to take baby steps and get rid of our rights nibble by nibble. Meanwhile so much of our side are a bunch of sour grapes all or nothing bucket-crabs. Pragmatism should trump dogma.

Haven't bump stocks been a thing for years?

Yes, and bump firing without special equipment has been around for many years prior to that.

It is an emotional knee jerk response. Most likely nothing will happen. If those in power were smart, they woul put up the bump fire stocks as a sacrifice to get something in return (like national carry reciprocity, suppressors off the NFA, reopen the machine gun registry or maybe force the SAGA).

>there are "people" here who actually agree with banning slidefire stocks
shills are out in full force, aren't they

I hope you get mauled by a bear or gored by an elk you fucking idiot fudd hunter single shot rifle master race faggot.

So they're banning fingertips now? Or are echo triggers still okay as long as you install one when you first build your AR? This is complete bullshit.

t. statist bootlicker

Starting to see signs where republicans and NRA members are asking for a ban on bump stocks.

BAN ASSAULT MICULEK
youtube.com/watch?v=ddPTyoV-Irc

>everyone who disagrees with me is a shill
no better than a leftist smfh tbqh pham

I would never propose such a thing. I don't think it would actually help at all. But if I have to trade memefire stocks for rights that are actually important? If banning bumpfire stocks means we don't get another AWB or a magazine ban? Yeah, sorry, but you can find another way to waste ammo.

he's probably a slavaboo

so, just as big a faggot piece of shit

so what are the gun control advocates advocating that we get back.
Suppressors?
SBR's?
oh wait thats right they only take and never give.
They have taken too much already.

Sounds like a good compromise if we get the entire share act

Oh the irony

You should just export yourself to the middle east

> muh poly ticks
Never in recent history have the democrats agreed with any legislation that would restore lost gun rights. They don't want compromising, they want a total ban and they'll take it inch by inch of they have to.
And Republicucks repeatedly use gun rights as a bargaining chip to pass other retarded bullshit like billionaire taxcuts.

The only people who will fight for gun rights are gun owners, and an attack on one, even if he is a retard who uses bumpstocks, is an attack on us all.

I would vote for Hillary's feminazi socialist dictatorship in a second if she was pro 2A and it meant we could have 4/8 years without losing gun rights. Fuck politics.

Stop. See

And push it, make it feel like they won something

>bargaining
>voting
>politics

The only way to restore gun rights is through war.
"1776 will commence again" is not a metaphor.

the question is just how far it is off.

Imagine if Miculek snapped and did something like this. The death toll would be in the thousands.

We've already heard that his daughter is bat shit insane. Think about it. Do we want this man having semi-automatic, military grade assault style rifles that you can convert to full auto for only 50 bucks?

Write your congressman. Get WOKE and make your voice HEARD.

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>My twitter feed is full of NRA members calling for bumpfire ban
Translation, twitter feed is full of false-flagging shill accounts, fudds, and bots calling for it.

...

I agree that they have taken too much, and there's a lot of fights that still need to be fought. But we have to pick our battles. We have to spend our political capital wisely. Bump stocks are a dumb gimmick with no practical purpose. Is it just to ban them? No. Is it a battle worth wasting time, money and political capital on? I don't think so.

I don't expect them to give anything back. We're going to have to take it back ourselves. But we have to be smart about it. Maybe we trade bump stocks for suppressors? Or lifting the import bans?

>Never in recent history have the democrats agreed with any legislation that would restore lost gun rights. They don't want compromising, they want a total ban and they'll take it inch by inch of they have to.
>And Republicucks repeatedly use gun rights as a bargaining chip to pass other retarded bullshit like billionaire taxcuts.
I agree.

>The only people who will fight for gun rights are gun owners,
Yes.

>and an attack on one, even if he is a retard who uses bumpstocks, is an attack on us all.
No. We can't think of this as an identitarian tribalist conflict. We have to think of this as a legal conflict in terms of rights. Banning bump stocks is dumb. But it doesn't infringe on the core of the 2nd Amendment. It's pointless to waste energy on.

Fuck these Las Vegas threads in leaving /k/ until all this bullshit has calmed down. The bumpfire and slidefire and anything else simulating "full auto" is cancer and I don't care about it.

Why don't you just leave and not come back, your silly faggot pussy.
>wahh wahh I don't know how to filter or hide threads
kys, seriously

What political party do bumpfire stocks belong to?

Who do bumpfire stocks vote for?

What political seat has a bumpfire stock held?

No, has the right idea, I'm starting to get fed up with all the people breaking the rules here too. This is not a politics board.
Or people that realize bump fire stocks are retarded and only got legalized through a loophole. I'm surprised they weren't banned years ago.

The last girl he finger banged didn't make it.

That's the only way I'd agree with banning bump stocks. Faggots cry about compromise, well alright here's a compromise - bump stocks for repealing import bans. Bump stocks for no more 922r requirement (or 922f I always get the two mixed up).

I've said before that I wished democrats compromised with our enemies the way they compromise with their countrymen. We give up everything and they promise to not take away our guns...yet. Only a fucking idiot, a rube and a mook would 'negotiate' where they give up everything in exchange for nothing but a hollow promise.

How do you know they're actually NRA members and not just a bunch of fucking retards?

How's that boot taste?

You faggots don't get it. If you let them ban bumpstocks then one day normies will find out you don't need a special stock to bump fire and then they're gonna ban ALL semi autos.

If you give those fucking shit stains one more inch James Yeager is gonna start shooting people.

No compromise. No surrender.

The last girl he finger banged was his wife and she got pregnant from it.

Republicans don't have any political capital as long as the mainstream media opposes everything they do, and the Republican politicians don't actually want people to have guns anyway.

I agree bumpfire stocks are a dumb gimmick but I think there is genuine value in echo triggers, and this bill could easily extend too far, and probably already does.

You never needed a bump stock to bump fire

>bad man does a bad thing
>instead of looking at why the bad man did the bad thing, or why the man was bad at all
>BAN THE THING THE BAD MAN USED!

What the fuck is wrong with America? Seriously. Not even the UK or Canada do this. In fact, the last thing that did that sort of knee-jerk in canada was recently repealed and literally every major party basically said "Yeah this was a knee-jerk mistake and did nothing useful. We're glad it's gone"

This. Bump stocks for lifting import restrictions would be an excellent tradeoff.

Tastes better than being a useless purist bucket crab who just sits around complaining and doesn't fight for any liberty at all.

James Yeager can suck my dick

I'd agree on echo triggers. Banning them would be too far.

It will. The California version makes everything illegal because of its vagueness

>Iraqvet is using a 30 round mag
>Other guy is using a 20 round
>Iraq vet still fires all his rounds faster
This thread is about a bill that was introduced, it is not about the functionality or practicality of bump fire stocks. Take this to

>Waaaaaahhh gun owners are having tough talks instead od arguing about pointless trivialties

>Waaaaaagh I'll go back to my safe space until they post cat pictures again

The good thing is this shit will most likely die in the House, all we have to do is survive 3-4 weeks until people forget. Same shit happened after sandy vagina.

>Banning bump stocks is dumb. But it doesn't infringe on the core of the 2nd Amendment. It's pointless to waste energy on.
Banning collaspible stocks is dumb. But it doesn't infringe on the core of the 2nd
Banning semi auto is dumb but it doesn't infringe on the 2nd
Banning repeating guns is dumb but it doesn't infringe on the 2nd

You said it yourself, they take inch by inch. At this point, it is any attack is an attack on us all. It is stand united or fall separately.

Allow me to play devils avocado here, it doesn't make much sense to focus on the individual who did it because hes the result of a very specific set of circumstances that made him commit this atrocity. No amount of laws or regulations can change societal norms and the human condition.

That said, banning anything on the basis of a mass murder is retarded anyways because these incidents account for an incredibly small amount of firearm homicides as a whole.

>What the fuck is wrong with America?

Those calling the shots cannot enact their plans until either we are disarmed or so embroiled in chaos that we can't stay cohesive as a nation to resist them. Reason does not matter.

The us will civil war/balkanize which will effectively remove us from the world stage for the better part of a decade. By then Europe will be in the caliphate and the US will be divided and weak enough that it will be unable to resist the globalist takeover. The whole world will be like Brazil. There will be very rich people and very poor people and very few in between.

Reminder to all the fucktards ITT, the proposed ban does not just include bumpfire stocks, it includes binary triggers such as the Echo Trigger, triggers used in competition over-unders, crank triggers which have existed since the 1800s, and then some.

Sure, bumpfire is stupid, but you're not just getting rid of bumpfire stocks with these bans, you're getting rid of all of the above. So eat shit and die if you support these bans.

>doesn't fight for any liberty at all
Because taking the compromise dildo without anything in return for the last 30 years is showing it to the man.

What if american law actually made sense and could be applied widely instead of just banning specific products by name?

>other devices that emulate automatic weapons

Goodbye shoelaces, goodbye quick fingers

>twitter feed
Ah yes, last election showcased how profoundly in-touch and indicative of political outcomes. That's why the lefty Twitter storms gave us Madam President.

I'm so fucking sick of you boot licking faggots who will give one inch to these statist fucks.

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams

>needing a meme stock to bumpfire

I agree, amend the SHARE act with a ban on bumpfire stocks and watch it fly through the senate with the HPA in tact.

Because here's a common with problem with regulations and laws in general.

Either they're too vague and effectively regulate virtually everything, or they're too specific and are easy to work around.

I'd much rather prefer a regulation that's specific to a certain product or design because companies can find workarounds.

Fuck off, fudd.

I use the number or human lightning strikes to put the rarity in perspective of how rare this really is. Literally lightning strikes and kills more people a year on average than are killed in all "mass shootings."

Source?

>Banning collaspible stocks is dumb. But it doesn't infringe on the core of the 2nd
Except it does, because those are actually useful.

>Banning semi auto is dumb but it doesn't infringe on the 2nd
>Banning repeating guns is dumb but it doesn't infringe on the 2nd
Except it does because that's a vital feature of modern firearms.

Bbutt *sniffle sniffle* ttthey won't take ooour ggguns so its nnnnot a 2a infringement

>Shills ITT right now

>crank triggers
amazing how /k/ was not obsessed with these until this shooting, and all of a sudden they appear in every thread.

could this be........................... shilling?

>Ah yes, last election showcased how profoundly in-touch and indicative of political outcomes.
uhhh what? Mr Drumpf* was the king of twitter during the elections and unsurprisingly won by grace of much larger media presence and having some semblance of a platform compared to hillary who used social media a lot less

it's a noted phenomenon that mastery of media wins elections: JFK versus Nixon for example, things as simple as understanding the black-and-white camera and being prepared for hot spotlights swung tons of votes

*someone will take this bait even though im saying in this very post that it's bait just watch

>when you're literally too retarded to read

I just like to mention the fact handguns kill 19 times more people than rifles as a whole.

If libs actually cared about gun violence they would go after handguns, but they know that's a battle they can't win so they go for the low hanging fruit.

I don't know that feel user. Please explain for the crowd or shut the fuck up please.

You know that slippery slope is a fallacy for a reason, right? There's still a meaningful distinction here.

it says so on the front page of the fucking board you dumbass

you see handguns cannot kill those that make the laws.
But rifles on the other hand.

I was pointing out how that could be a slippery slope. Look at the kind of shit they are struggling for in Australia or the UK. That is what has been quoted as the goal of the anti-gunners.

I think a great compromise for liberals to be given is only every third being executed instead of every two.

youtube.com/watch?v=Jln3mi0vfJU
This is how to properly respond to people who suggest we "compromise" on "sensible gun control"

Is Marc Thiessen a compulsive liar or what?

All I see is more evidence that the GOP is obsolete and unfit for the age we live in.

>Either they're too vague and effectively regulate virtually everything, or they're too specific and are easy to work around.
Like I said, what if American law actually made sense and could be applied widely instead of just banning specific products by name?

You don't see this kind of trigger or meme stock dumbshit nonsense in other countries because other countries define things in dictionary-like terms. For example, full auto operation is almost always something along the lines of "The firearm cycles more than one cartridge-based round per pull of the trigger". As people poke holes in it saying "what about pepperboxes" or "what about shotguns", you make that sentence longer and more specific until you get to the meaning you want of "gun that shoots many bullets in sequence without you taking your booger hook off the fun lever"

The problem with american law is that all the old stuff was written poorly because "spirit of the law" was the prevailing concept (which is a legitimate thing but it doesn't excuse shitty writing) and all the new stuff is basically "We dislike the Acme Sliding Giggle Fire Gun Stock For AR15 Style Rifles and have chosen to ban it."

going >MUH 2A is retarded because the ATF exists, the AWB exists, states' rights to ban guns exist, it's basically a totally invalidated piece of law that, quite frankly, isnt even written in proper english in the first place.

If the only thing you have to argue against a ban of something or other is "But muh 2a!" then you are standing on very, very weak ground that has already been broken before.

Personally if they move to handguns, I move the discussion to how it really is an organized crime problem that can't be solved by making things illegal. Then the discussion either can turn to how to curtail gang crime or they show their true single color and it is pointless to continue talking with them

>comparing a difference in opinion on consumer goods to literally confronting a hive-mind of killbots that you only aren't destroying because humanity has reached post-scarcity and has forgotten what militiaries are for

o-okay i guess

Bump stocks are gayer than AIDS

They're gonna have to cut off everyone's fingers then.

youtube.com/watch?v=LywyAmwdHUc

yup.
But we should still protect them just like the gays.
weather we like them or not.

They'll just ban semi autos.