>Stephen Paddock planned to escape after shooting >Authorities believe he had help >His car had 50lbs of explosives and 1,600 rounds of ammo >He fired at aviation fuel tanks >The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks. One of the bullets penetrated the tank
Seems like a pilot guy would know that fuel tanks are built to not "blow up" in that scenario.
Kayden Rogers
I've seen a few people floating the theory that "maybe" he was going to blow up his car as a diversion. I guess it seems possible but we'll probably never know for sure. If the guy did want to escape then he might not have left a manifesto or anything behind.
Adrian Nguyen
As rich as fuck as he was. He could have bought incendiary tracer bullets.
Julian Reyes
What if his car was supposed to be parked near the tanks but something happened.
Asher Brooks
This was supposed to be really really big.
Eli Lee
Of course he didn't do this alone. He probably didn't even do it at all.
It was a weapons deal gone bad, and whoever his customers were did the attack as a distraction, then left his body there to frame him while they got away.
Luis Gray
bump for interest. this is real interesting. escape to where and how?
Camden Gutierrez
the Filipina said she didn't know but c'mon they lived together. she had to have known something was up. even if she did not know the deets.
maybe his accomplice nd he had a fall out and thats why she told everyone they were gonna die.
Alexander Reyes
I really want to believe in the arms deal narrative, but I can't. Here's why.
If those guns were brought there to be sold, why the 32nd floor? Why up so high? It makes everything more complicated. If some autistic user can provide building specs that show those rooms were in proximity to staff/freight elevators or stairs, I'd be more likely to buy it. But being up that high makes EVERYTHING more complicated unless there's some reason we're not considering. But what those rooms were particularly good for was having a vantage point to fire on that crowd. That's really all they were good for. I can't help but believe that when those guns were taken there, they were actually taken there to do what was done with them. Nothing else makes sense if you think about it. In spite of wanting to believe otherwise, I really can't
Samuel Parker
don't worry we will probably never get the ehowle story but we will get a nice movie with bryan cranston as the lead.
Nolan Rogers
Suantzy Esquivel ? What do we know about her and her connection to Marilou Natividad/Danley/Bustos ?
Colton Bell
>Just how big was this going to be? Not near as big as her tits I'll tell you what.
Caleb Harris
Holy shit his brother wasn't kidding
This guy was a fucking one-man army.
Or his brother was actually involved
Charles Sanders
There were no tracers retard
Jacob Perry
>makes everything more complicated
How? You'd need an elevator if you were on the 32nd or the 2nd floor, right? No one is taking the (alarmed) stairs. Maybe you run more of a risk of someone coming in and seeing shady guys with suitcases. . .a pretty fucking normal situation in Las Vegas.
I don't buy the arms deal either.
What I don't get is why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly. He had eyes on the hall and probably was listening to the scanner, and knew they were nowhere close.
Hitting gas tanks was incidental. He would have been far more accurate without his modifications from what little I know from /k/. He was just spraying the crowd.
Alexander Morgan
I don't get why he would think that shooting a hole in a tank of fuel is going to cause it to explode. That is movie bullshit.
Ian Brooks
What's the point of an arms deal when they are legal to buy anyway?
Tyler Thompson
Initial sample of the goods before making a larger purchase. The larger purchase would be carried out in a remote location once some semblance of trust was established.
Elijah Miller
Depends user, would they look gross if they were too big or that a problem?
Caleb White
right if he only shot for ten minutes and was really planning to escape there was plenty of time to get away.
still missing pieces of this puzzle. where is benedict cumberbatch when you need him
Tyler Morales
This
Charles Rodriguez
Stolen goods or being sold to international black market buyers that are banned from purchasing them.
Austin Jenkins
>>How? >>why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly
The higher you are in the building the longer you are on the elevator, the more risk of stops and people getting on with you. Any contact can lead to random issues so you want to limit it as much as you can. Even some dude just drunk punching his bitch gets you stopped, talked too, maybe security wants your info as a witness. The longer you are in the lift, the longer you are on camera on the lift. It's also harder to escape if shit goes side ways. Quick just take the stairs....... down 32 floors. 3rd or 4th floor you could worst case just go down two floor and jump.
and from the time line it seems like a security guard got into a shoot out with him. So odds are he thought that was full on swat response or something and did not want to risk not being able to off himself. Maybe the guard hit him too? We don't know being there is really very little info due to it being an active investigation.
David Evans
Sauntzy Esquivel worked at the Israeli embassy in Costa Rica.
Adam Collins
Or he could've had a class three license with amendments, which would make him an arms dealer- by definition. He could buy any automatic weapon system, store them and sell them. If he were an idiot and sold them, while with the products, to a group of "bad guys," then they might just take the weapons themselves and shoot him.
Doesn't explain why he would fire out of the balcony for 10 minutes at a group of people. The fact that the video camera is there, possibly filming him doing to, leads it less likely to be about general weapons smuggling and more along the lines of evil.
If someone were to believe the whole religious conspiracy theory, then 32nd floor, video-taping a massacre for an evil dude to beat off to it or proof, then that could be likely. Plenty of people have fucked up religious habits.
Logan Hughes
They were gonna hold the city hostage, present Trump with a catch 22, then nuke the whole place. This would have started Civil War at the least with the MSM putting blood on Trump's hand.
My roommate is a banker and had a TON of people coming in from Vegas offering vouchers the day before it went down. He said it was odd, but in retrospect he can see (((they))) wanted as many people in the city as possible. My post is being marked as spam and I'm not sure why.
Nathan Collins
>>Stolen goods or being sold to international black market buyers
No, they are a bunch of legal guns with gun dealers already saying they sold this or that to him. You don't go all shady gun dealer black market blah blah blah to buy legal, easy to buy (very easy in some states) sort of guns. There is ZERO point to do that. You do what gang bangers do and send in a guy who can legally buy 6 glocks at one time and then he just buys 6 glocks. It doesn't take more than a few months so set up residency some where and then **poof** all the legal guns you want to buy with zero issues from gun shows etc in a lot of states.
and if I'm buying guns I'm doing so with my own plan and a given need. You don't have a deal go sideways and then just shrug and figure fuck it lets just open up on that random crowd outside the window. It risks you getting caught, your group getting caught, your big plan that needed the guns going to hell. I mean think people. We don't know the real motive but there is no way it was gun deal.
Logan Russell
I'm a moron and I know that you aren't going to blow up gas tanks like that by shooting at them.
Colton Smith
Okay so the tanks wouldn't blow up, but would they ignite?
Matthew Jenkins
If you're going to keep spouting this insane theory then at least show some evidence for it.
Anthony Rogers
Stop spouting this bullshit as fact you autistic fuck.
Charles Jones
They found 2 20lb of Tannerite in his car. I think he planned 2 use 1 on each tank. Shoot each, causing explosion, herd mass into street and then open fire herding them back. They would be in the kill zone the whole time with no cover all grouped. If the attack was longer than 10 minutes, it would have been a total massacre hundreds dead most likely in this scenario. Even Columbine had bombs that failed. There's always the plan they have in their head and then what they actually accomplish.
Eli Gutierrez
So essentially we have two major theories from what I can deduce:
1) It was an arms deal gone wrong
2) It was a CIA/Mossad failed nuke scenario
I hope Sup Forums doesn't turn into Shiites vs. Sunnis with this schism. We have to figure out which of these two theories is correct.
Adrian Smith
Watch the press conference from today (/watch?v=oSnu1HdXZ7k), @8:20 the sheriff says there were stairs merely feet away from the shooters room. I am thinking whoever killed Stephen fled using the stairs and is probably staying at the hotel, if not they took off and left immediately after the shooting of the crowd.
Brody Roberts
Don't most guys who go "nuts" (ie: not political or religious terrorists) usually leave some kind of a manifesto? They usually have something to say.
Owen Butler
This is disinfo to distract from the much more likely Chertoff angle.
>be american authorities >allow (((private companies))) to keep huge fuel tanks near habitation
>Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. >The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks. >One of the bullets penetrated the tank, but did not cause a fire or explosion near the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, another knowledgeable source said late Wednesday. >The tanks are roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site, where Paddock killed 58 people and wounded almost 500. >Several airplane hangars belonging to prominent corporations are also near the tanks.
Juan Foster
THAT'S MY SISTER DELETE THISS!!!
Asher Miller
You don't have to be rich to buy tracers
James Torres
and both those theories are retarded. keep trying idiots but the truth is he acted alone and he was just nuts niy ill say this that the gf and brother knew what he was planning
Matthew Foster
THIS
Jackson Hughes
It was an Arms deal gone wrong too.
FBI was dealing arms, CIA set them up
Landon Anderson
Las Vegas Review-Journal is owned by Adelson--cannot be trusted at all.
Adelson has already met with Trump in the aftermath of this, btw.
Anthony Walker
Life isn't a video game. Fuel tanks don't blow up when you shoot them.
Hunter Baker
...
Liam Cook
t. Mossad
Cooper Price
omg, two friends meet to talk about big event that happened in city where they both own hotel casinos.
Landon Bell
The point is that the buyers never cared about the guns to begin with. They planned to kill Paddock from the start and use everything that was brought, under the sanction of a state actor, to carry out the attack. They knew it was a setup already and this would be a massive black eye to whatever agency had it sanctioned.
This event alone would crumble and destroy whatever agency sanctioned the arms deal. I'm sure the cops never even got a chance to look at any of those cameras or possible recordings in the room. The FBI took it all and cleaned house saying nothing is there.
It's very possible the other shootings were used to distract and get the original mandalay by shooters out through the airport by a private plane. Thats a lot of speculation, but it seems it would match the timeline for different shootings at different hotels and casinos.
Landon Ramirez
Has anyone ever considered that the stash of guns was there to merely act as "props" so it would be easier to push anti-gun legislation in the aftermath? I get the feeling this lemming was bankrolled by someone that has something to gain from the incident. Doesn't explain why he would kill himself though. Maybe they put a bullet in his skull so he wouldn't spill the beans. It's anyone's guess.
David Nguyen
this
Christian Rivera
Gee I wonder who can be behind this post?
Samuel Martinez
The hotel’s floor numbers skip from 39 to 60. So floor 41 is numbered 61, and 42 is 62. And the top floor (true 43) is numbered 64. So top floor is numbered same as the shooter’s age. And 32 would be the “midlife,” symbolically. Or all that is just some coincidental bullshit.
Benjamin Martin
So here's a little something that just popped up.
Xavier Parker
...
Adam James
I M P O S T E R S
Kayden Butler
Easier to believe he was suicided by CIMod than this ... what is the flesh penetration of a .666 round? You don't aim much ina dang turkey shoot.
Carter Lopez
Any context? Where is this from?
Alexander Watson
Has CIA screwed the FBI to such an extent before? I know they have a long standing beef with each other, but do they actively try to screw over each other to such an extent?
Oliver Russell
just throw a small plane at then in Europ it's forbidden to build those tanks in very populated areas
Juan Clark
Scenario number 2 sounds retarded, and honestly based on nothing but larping. This vip thing makes only sense if the one who was shooting from mandalay bay, was attempting to assassinate that said vip in the concert crowd.
Caleb Adams
his background report
Owen Martin
If Sandy Hook could not change gun laws then this won't. I would be watching Nevada state security laws for casinos. If you see them pushing for mandatory airport-tier security then we have our answer.
Gabriel Barnes
You may be right. I'll have my eye on new state legislation. Security firms with government exclusive contracts could potentially make out like bandits because of this.
Jacob Lopez
of course she is
Brayden Brooks
My life for you
CIBOLA
Michael King
Swat has to clear more floors. More time to shoot
Lucas Perez
*saves*
Dylan Hernandez
Nevada could end up passing gun control legislation. This state's lawmakers know where their bread is buttered and they'll do whatever is necessary to make tourists feel safe. We now have the critical mass of Californians to make it politically viable.
Lucas Green
The stand is an excellent movie, it's cheesy and the acting is god awful but I love it
Gavin Gomez
Can you make boobs bigger in gimp? I don't know how to smoothly enlarge body parts, like this masterpiece. Is the specific tool only in photoshop? The only thing I can find in gimp that does it is the cage deform tool, and that makes it all fucked up.
Jeremiah Robinson
bumpty bumpty bump
Easton Collins
It was the mob!!! They did it to re aquire the securty funds against "acts of terrorism" that Trump had just withdrawn. They happened on the dawn of the money stopping.
Ontop of that makes sense why the corrupt paid off las vegas PD and msm are taking so long to reveal a motive + past family ties too organised crime. Watch me get double shilled again,two posts in a row. Just like it happened twice after i posted this theory yesterday.
Samuel Gutierrez
People are going on about a "high score". What a joke. He should be ashamed of himself. There were 22000 people there that night, and all he could manage was 58? He is a complete failure. If he or his accomplice had detonated the bombs then maybe he could have been proud of his achievements. As it stands, he is a complete and utter failure.
Luis Hill
Still wouldn't have "blown up", MIGHT have caught fire if one shot punctured the tank and the next caught the fuel pouring out.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>Stephen Paddock planned to escape after shooting
How fucking retarded do you have to be to think you will escape after shooting at thousands of people? No one has ever escaped from that situation.
Nathan Flores
That's weak as hell, you do your countrymen a disservice. Japan's had you guys beat for over a year now, just to remind you.
Michael Cruz
Okay, shill number one: I think the lost revenue from the nuke that just got dropped on tourism in the city would dwarf whatever they could siphon off of federal security grants.
Dylan Fisher
>be super secret motherfucking James Bond tier weapons dealer >only sell AR15s with slidefire stocks >evert part of which, besides the lower receivers, can be bulk ordered over the internet no questions asked
>gun has blood on it >gun was probably resting in pool of blood >cops cleared body >moved gun away from body (standard practice) >blood drops >"OH MAH GAWD CONFIRMED FALSE FLAG"
Back to /x/!
Daniel Ross
Nah you're good. shill posts yesterday were literally all packed on after the other. You really think all those people with trips to Vegas have them cancelled now? At the prices they've paid? Securities gonna get ramped up from here on out. Post disaster is always the safest time to go. I doubt tourism will drop significantly.
Lucas Miller
Lets do the deal in the middle of a busy city instead of some warehouse on the edges or in buttfuck nowhere. Anyway, why the fuck would someone slaughter 50 random people completely unrelated because a deal went bad. Kill yourself you fucking retarded conspiracy tards.
Benjamin Clark
>California >Texas >Florida Really says a lot.
James Miller
>>evert part of which, besides the lower receivers, can be bulk ordered over the internet no questions asked and if someone was motivated and wanted to keep it off the books they could build their own lowers
Jordan Ramirez
A few will cancel, many more won't book. People aren't nearly so rational. For a while, the Las Vegas strip will be psychologically associated with gunfire and death. Stacy and her girlfriends will just go somewhere else to party.
Dylan Bennett
Fucking bingo.
John Williams
My roommate is a banker and he said your banker friend and you are both full of utter shite. Kys obese larper.
Elijah Sullivan
ha! how do you know? i mean has it even been tried??
Liam Price
Filters - Distorts - IWarp
Brody Baker
>I had no idea about the small arsenal he had purchased over the last few months
Adam Williams
you don't actually believe that.
Camden Cook
Why didnt a pilot crash into the crowd with obe od his two planes packes with bonb supplies instead of spending copious amounts of money on firearms
Eli Peterson
It is extremely unlikely. Everybody knew his location within seconds of him starting to shoot.
Julian Butler
more fun to be in the action
Joshua Anderson
>with obe od his two planes you ok there?
>small plane full of ANFO >have it detonate about 10 feet above the ground
Robert Myers
I am reminded of the funny speaking guy from the thread in pic related. Anyone have his full thread?
Owen Foster
But user... the pic you posted is not enhanced but the original....
Logan Sanders
>What I don't get is why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly. I don't think he did any of the shooting. There's video of muzzle flash from two rooms, one around the tenth floor, the other around the 20th. I believe they killed him before they did this.
Perhaps one side thought it was an arms deal, while the other was planning to sacrifice him to moloch and open fire on the crowd, at which point fbi intervention world expose the cia or fbi's involvement as arms dealers.
Not even sure there were real bullets fired at the crowd.
Jaxon Evans
Im not an Ameriburger. I dont know Stacy. I'll take your' word.