Just how big was this going to be?

>Stephen Paddock planned to escape after shooting
>Authorities believe he had help
>His car had 50lbs of explosives and 1,600 rounds of ammo
>He fired at aviation fuel tanks
>The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks. One of the bullets penetrated the tank

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4950426/Las-Vegas-shooter-ESCAPE-planned-police-reveal.html

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Was the end game to blow up half of Vegas?

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Seems like a pilot guy would know that fuel tanks are built to not "blow up" in that scenario.

I've seen a few people floating the theory that "maybe" he was going to blow up his car as a diversion. I guess it seems possible but we'll probably never know for sure. If the guy did want to escape then he might not have left a manifesto or anything behind.

As rich as fuck as he was. He could have bought incendiary tracer bullets.

What if his car was supposed to be parked near the tanks but something happened.

This was supposed to be really really big.

Of course he didn't do this alone. He probably didn't even do it at all.

It was a weapons deal gone bad, and whoever his customers were did the attack as a distraction, then left his body there to frame him while they got away.

bump for interest. this is real interesting. escape to where and how?

the Filipina said she didn't know but c'mon they lived together. she had to have known something was up. even if she did not know the deets.

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maybe his accomplice nd he had a fall out and thats why she told everyone they were gonna die.

I really want to believe in the arms deal narrative, but I can't. Here's why.

If those guns were brought there to be sold, why the 32nd floor? Why up so high? It makes everything more complicated. If some autistic user can provide building specs that show those rooms were in proximity to staff/freight elevators or stairs, I'd be more likely to buy it. But being up that high makes EVERYTHING more complicated unless there's some reason we're not considering. But what those rooms were particularly good for was having a vantage point to fire on that crowd. That's really all they were good for. I can't help but believe that when those guns were taken there, they were actually taken there to do what was done with them. Nothing else makes sense if you think about it. In spite of wanting to believe otherwise, I really can't

don't worry we will probably never get the ehowle story but we will get a nice movie with bryan cranston as the lead.

Suantzy Esquivel ? What do we know about her and her connection to Marilou Natividad/Danley/Bustos ?

>Just how big was this going to be?
Not near as big as her tits I'll tell you what.

Holy shit his brother wasn't kidding

This guy was a fucking one-man army.

Or his brother was actually involved

There were no tracers retard

>makes everything more complicated

How? You'd need an elevator if you were on the 32nd or the 2nd floor, right? No one is taking the (alarmed) stairs. Maybe you run more of a risk of someone coming in and seeing shady guys with suitcases. . .a pretty fucking normal situation in Las Vegas.

I don't buy the arms deal either.

What I don't get is why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly. He had eyes on the hall and probably was listening to the scanner, and knew they were nowhere close.

Hitting gas tanks was incidental. He would have been far more accurate without his modifications from what little I know from /k/. He was just spraying the crowd.

I don't get why he would think that shooting a hole in a tank of fuel is going to cause it to explode. That is movie bullshit.

What's the point of an arms deal when they are legal to buy anyway?

Initial sample of the goods before making a larger purchase. The larger purchase would be carried out in a remote location once some semblance of trust was established.

Depends user, would they look gross if they were too big or that a problem?

right if he only shot for ten minutes and was really planning to escape there was plenty of time to get away.

still missing pieces of this puzzle. where is benedict cumberbatch when you need him

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Stolen goods or being sold to international black market buyers that are banned from purchasing them.

>>How?
>>why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly

The higher you are in the building the longer you are on the elevator, the more risk of stops and people getting on with you. Any contact can lead to random issues so you want to limit it as much as you can. Even some dude just drunk punching his bitch gets you stopped, talked too, maybe security wants your info as a witness.
The longer you are in the lift, the longer you are on camera on the lift. It's also harder to escape if shit goes side ways. Quick just take the stairs....... down 32 floors. 3rd or 4th floor you could worst case just go down two floor and jump.

and from the time line it seems like a security guard got into a shoot out with him. So odds are he thought that was full on swat response or something and did not want to risk not being able to off himself. Maybe the guard hit him too? We don't know being there is really very little info due to it being an active investigation.

Sauntzy Esquivel worked at the Israeli embassy in Costa Rica.

Or he could've had a class three license with amendments, which would make him an arms dealer- by definition. He could buy any automatic weapon system, store them and sell them. If he were an idiot and sold them, while with the products, to a group of "bad guys," then they might just take the weapons themselves and shoot him.

Doesn't explain why he would fire out of the balcony for 10 minutes at a group of people. The fact that the video camera is there, possibly filming him doing to, leads it less likely to be about general weapons smuggling and more along the lines of evil.

If someone were to believe the whole religious conspiracy theory, then 32nd floor, video-taping a massacre for an evil dude to beat off to it or proof, then that could be likely. Plenty of people have fucked up religious habits.

They were gonna hold the city hostage, present Trump with a catch 22, then nuke the whole place. This would have started Civil War at the least with the MSM putting blood on Trump's hand.

My roommate is a banker and had a TON of people coming in from Vegas offering vouchers the day before it went down. He said it was odd, but in retrospect he can see (((they))) wanted as many people in the city as possible. My post is being marked as spam and I'm not sure why.

>>Stolen goods or being sold to international black market buyers

No, they are a bunch of legal guns with gun dealers already saying they sold this or that to him. You don't go all shady gun dealer black market blah blah blah to buy legal, easy to buy (very easy in some states) sort of guns. There is ZERO point to do that. You do what gang bangers do and send in a guy who can legally buy 6 glocks at one time and then he just buys 6 glocks.
It doesn't take more than a few months so set up residency some where and then **poof** all the legal guns you want to buy with zero issues from gun shows etc in a lot of states.

and if I'm buying guns I'm doing so with my own plan and a given need. You don't have a deal go sideways and then just shrug and figure fuck it lets just open up on that random crowd outside the window. It risks you getting caught, your group getting caught, your big plan that needed the guns going to hell. I mean think people. We don't know the real motive but there is no way it was gun deal.

I'm a moron and I know that you aren't going to blow up gas tanks like that by shooting at them.

Okay so the tanks wouldn't blow up, but would they ignite?

If you're going to keep spouting this insane theory then at least show some evidence for it.

Stop spouting this bullshit as fact you autistic fuck.

They found 2 20lb of Tannerite in his car. I think he planned 2 use 1 on each tank. Shoot each, causing explosion, herd mass into street and then open fire herding them back. They would be in the kill zone the whole time with no cover all grouped. If the attack was longer than 10 minutes, it would have been a total massacre hundreds dead most likely in this scenario. Even Columbine had bombs that failed. There's always the plan they have in their head and then what they actually accomplish.

So essentially we have two major theories from what I can deduce:

1) It was an arms deal gone wrong

2) It was a CIA/Mossad failed nuke scenario

I hope Sup Forums doesn't turn into Shiites vs. Sunnis with this schism. We have to figure out which of these two theories is correct.

Watch the press conference from today (/watch?v=oSnu1HdXZ7k), @8:20 the sheriff says there were stairs merely feet away from the shooters room. I am thinking whoever killed Stephen fled using the stairs and is probably staying at the hotel, if not they took off and left immediately after the shooting of the crowd.

Don't most guys who go "nuts" (ie: not political or religious terrorists) usually leave some kind of a manifesto? They usually have something to say.

This is disinfo to distract from the much more likely Chertoff angle.

Ignore these shills.

>reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/

>be american authorities
>allow (((private companies))) to keep huge fuel tanks near habitation


>Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
>The bullets left two holes in one of two circular white tanks.
>One of the bullets penetrated the tank, but did not cause a fire or explosion near the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, another knowledgeable source said late Wednesday.
>The tanks are roughly 1,100 feet from the concert site, where Paddock killed 58 people and wounded almost 500.
>Several airplane hangars belonging to prominent corporations are also near the tanks.

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You don't have to be rich to buy tracers

and both those theories are retarded. keep trying idiots but the truth is he acted alone and he was just nuts niy ill say this that the gf and brother knew what he was planning

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It was an Arms deal gone wrong too.

FBI was dealing arms, CIA set them up

Las Vegas Review-Journal is owned by Adelson--cannot be trusted at all.

Adelson has already met with Trump in the aftermath of this, btw.

Life isn't a video game. Fuel tanks don't blow up when you shoot them.

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t. Mossad

omg, two friends meet to talk about big event that happened in city where they both own hotel casinos.

The point is that the buyers never cared about the guns to begin with. They planned to kill Paddock from the start and use everything that was brought, under the sanction of a state actor, to carry out the attack.
They knew it was a setup already and this would be a massive black eye to whatever agency had it sanctioned.

This event alone would crumble and destroy whatever agency sanctioned the arms deal. I'm sure the cops never even got a chance to look at any of those cameras or possible recordings in the room. The FBI took it all and cleaned house saying nothing is there.

It's very possible the other shootings were used to distract and get the original mandalay by shooters out through the airport by a private plane. Thats a lot of speculation, but it seems it would match the timeline for different shootings at different hotels and casinos.

Has anyone ever considered that the stash of guns was there to merely act as "props" so it would be easier to push anti-gun legislation in the aftermath? I get the feeling this lemming was bankrolled by someone that has something to gain from the incident. Doesn't explain why he would kill himself though. Maybe they put a bullet in his skull so he wouldn't spill the beans. It's anyone's guess.

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Gee I wonder who can be behind this post?

The hotel’s floor numbers skip from 39 to 60. So floor 41 is numbered 61, and 42 is 62. And the top floor (true 43) is numbered 64. So top floor is numbered same as the shooter’s age. And 32 would be the “midlife,” symbolically. Or all that is just some coincidental bullshit.

So here's a little something that just popped up.

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I M P O S T E R S

Easier to believe he was suicided by CIMod than this ... what is the flesh penetration of a .666 round? You don't aim much ina dang turkey shoot.

Any context? Where is this from?

Has CIA screwed the FBI to such an extent before? I know they have a long standing beef with each other, but do they actively try to screw over each other to such an extent?

just throw a small plane at then
in Europ it's forbidden to build those tanks in very populated areas

Scenario number 2 sounds retarded, and honestly based on nothing but larping. This vip thing makes only sense if the one who was shooting from mandalay bay, was attempting to assassinate that said vip in the concert crowd.

his background report

If Sandy Hook could not change gun laws then this won't.
I would be watching Nevada state security laws for casinos. If you see them pushing for mandatory airport-tier security then we have our answer.

You may be right. I'll have my eye on new state legislation. Security firms with government exclusive contracts could potentially make out like bandits because of this.

of course she is

My life for you

CIBOLA

Swat has to clear more floors. More time to shoot

*saves*

Nevada could end up passing gun control legislation. This state's lawmakers know where their bread is buttered and they'll do whatever is necessary to make tourists feel safe. We now have the critical mass of Californians to make it politically viable.

The stand is an excellent movie, it's cheesy and the acting is god awful but I love it

Can you make boobs bigger in gimp? I don't know how to smoothly enlarge body parts, like this masterpiece. Is the specific tool only in photoshop? The only thing I can find in gimp that does it is the cage deform tool, and that makes it all fucked up.

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It was the mob!!!
They did it to re aquire the securty funds against "acts of terrorism" that Trump had just withdrawn. They happened on the dawn of the money stopping.

Ontop of that makes sense why the corrupt paid off las vegas PD and msm are taking so long to reveal a motive + past family ties too organised crime.
Watch me get double shilled again,two posts in a row. Just like it happened twice after i posted this theory yesterday.

People are going on about a "high score". What a joke. He should be ashamed of himself. There were 22000 people there that night, and all he could manage was 58? He is a complete failure. If he or his accomplice had detonated the bombs then maybe he could have been proud of his achievements. As it stands, he is a complete and utter failure.

Still wouldn't have "blown up", MIGHT have caught fire if one shot punctured the tank and the next caught the fuel pouring out.

>Stephen Paddock planned to escape after shooting

How fucking retarded do you have to be to think you will escape after shooting at thousands of people? No one has ever escaped from that situation.

That's weak as hell, you do your countrymen a disservice. Japan's had you guys beat for over a year now, just to remind you.

Okay, shill number one: I think the lost revenue from the nuke that just got dropped on tourism in the city would dwarf whatever they could siphon off of federal security grants.

>be super secret motherfucking James Bond tier weapons dealer
>only sell AR15s with slidefire stocks
>evert part of which, besides the lower receivers, can be bulk ordered over the internet no questions asked

>gun has blood on it
>gun was probably resting in pool of blood
>cops cleared body
>moved gun away from body (standard practice)
>blood drops
>"OH MAH GAWD CONFIRMED FALSE FLAG"

Back to /x/!

Nah you're good.
shill posts yesterday were literally all packed on after the other.
You really think all those people with trips to Vegas have them cancelled now? At the prices they've paid? Securities gonna get ramped up from here on out. Post disaster is always the safest time to go. I doubt tourism will drop significantly.

Lets do the deal in the middle of a busy city instead of some warehouse on the edges or in buttfuck nowhere.
Anyway, why the fuck would someone slaughter 50 random people completely unrelated because a deal went bad.
Kill yourself you fucking retarded conspiracy tards.

>California
>Texas
>Florida
Really says a lot.

>>evert part of which, besides the lower receivers, can be bulk ordered over the internet no questions asked
and if someone was motivated and wanted to keep it off the books they could build their own lowers

A few will cancel, many more won't book. People aren't nearly so rational. For a while, the Las Vegas strip will be psychologically associated with gunfire and death. Stacy and her girlfriends will just go somewhere else to party.

Fucking bingo.

My roommate is a banker and he said your banker friend and you are both full of utter shite. Kys obese larper.

ha! how do you know? i mean has it even been tried??

Filters - Distorts - IWarp

>I had no idea about the small arsenal he had purchased over the last few months

you don't actually believe that.

Why didnt a pilot crash into the crowd with obe od his two planes packes with bonb supplies instead of spending copious amounts of money on firearms

It is extremely unlikely. Everybody knew his location within seconds of him starting to shoot.

more fun to be in the action

>with obe od his two planes
you ok there?

>small plane full of ANFO
>have it detonate about 10 feet above the ground

I am reminded of the funny speaking guy from the thread in pic related. Anyone have his full thread?

But user... the pic you posted is not enhanced but the original....

>What I don't get is why he stopped shooting/killed himself so quickly.
I don't think he did any of the shooting. There's video of muzzle flash from two rooms, one around the tenth floor, the other around the 20th. I believe they killed him before they did this.

Perhaps one side thought it was an arms deal, while the other was planning to sacrifice him to moloch and open fire on the crowd, at which point fbi intervention world expose the cia or fbi's involvement as arms dealers.

Not even sure there were real bullets fired at the crowd.

Im not an Ameriburger. I dont know Stacy. I'll take your' word.