>Do you ever feel that some men "overestimate" their own attractiveness when talking about their dating problems?
>So I was watching this show called Geek Love, basically a reality-TV dating show where they follow people during speed dating at ComicCon. One of the people was interviewed before his speed dating session and asked about his preferences. He said "I've always been into busty, skinny blondes or brunettes. I'd love to meet someone who looks like Natalie Portman".
>Now let's take a look at this guy... he's 32, never in a relationship before, visibly low confidence/nervousness, sloppy middle school haircut, quite overweight, debatable sense of fashion. He ended up choosing the girls who were very conventionally attractive, then became depressed and went home when none of them chose him back.
>It was clear he was limiting himself to women who are, well, I hate to say it, out of his league. I mean it's good and all to shoot for the stars but isn't there something to be said for realistic expectations?
>Do you know a lot of men like this in real life? In my experience, men seem to think this way more often than women and I don't know why.
Do you ever feel that some men "overestimate" their own attractiveness when talking about their dating problems?
Better no chick than an ugly chick
>Do you know a lot of men like this in real life?
no
this though
>In my experience, men seem to think this way more often than women and I don't know why.
kek
What is this show about? Do they get him to lose weight, wear tailored clothing, and help his social skills?
Because men believe their looks don't matter to women, only their wallets.
No fat chicks bra
This, dont pay ugly bitches no mind, just because they are willing to give up that puzzy. But again, if fucking anything with a heartbeat that will let you is your thing, do whatever the FUCK you wanna do.
No, but I know plenty of the opposite type of men... Spineless faggots with so little self worth they allow a hole to disrespect them or treat them like shit and do absolutely nothing about it.
That's the problem with society in general, women are the ones with a vastly over inflated sense of self worth. That fat nerd probably would've been over the moon if they could have found some fat gross nerd grill to fawn over chinese cartoons with him.
Sandy hook never happened
I bet your real good at the no chick part
Because nature.
Pre-historically speaking, if a man wanted a women and could outcompete other males, she was cum repository for as long as he wanted. We're all descended from that same gene pool, even the weak among us. You want the best and in this society there is no way to legitimately compete (not saying many of them could, technically speaking) for women, as the ability to take women and the ability to compete for women are no longer tied together. We evolved socially without evolving physiologically. Hence: this shit.
Holy fuck, how many plants does one single room need?
fpbp
Gotta put that seed somewhere
Who are you quoting?
it's like riding a scooter. lots of fun, but you don't want to be seen riding one.
Germans discussing the real questions
This is pure bullshit since the eSlut apps and social media came out. Even 5/10 chicks are walking around with that entitlement of 10/10s a generation prior
Dating is a losing game. They don't care about you and they will always choose one of their 10000 other tinder matches over you. What's the point of playing a game you're guaranteed to lose? You might get to fuck a hole that 10000 other dudes fucked, great job. Why should I waste my time texting thots and pretending I care about their day when they'll just fuck a chad at the end of the day? Why get married to said women who get drunk all the time and sleep around? Why put yourself through all the work of keeping a woman if she's ugly?
I'd love to have a room like that, if it wasn't for my carpet my living room would look like that
don't know, don't care, you shouldn't either
Surely, /r9k/ would love to dump 400+ posts into this within 15 minutes. That board was already ruined a long time ago and now it's nothing but complaining about nogf and general armchair psychology about women.
Perhaps take it there? I'm saying this because every board on Sup Forums is always on the verge of descending into /nogf/. The fact that the entire website is not talking about women exclusively is how I know moderators do their job.
Hot girls always went with uglier guys in the past. The metrosexual numale is another result of feminization of the west since the 1970s when the (((bergs))) and (((steins))) said that male appearances were as important as the females looks. The most popular males in the 50s were just alphas that took no shit from anyone.
This is a slav school, and they like to put a lots of plants in school rooms for some reason.
If you don't know one, it's you
sure there is a way to compete, just be more charming, works for me
You are a disgrace to that flag.
Anyways, looks do matter. The problem is that the bluepilled retard scum masses tell men it doesn't, their entire lives.
Yet we know instinctively that it does.
Women are already cruel enough as it is to low-value and average men, so no, I don't think any more can be done to make men aware of these women being 'out of their league'.
The guys fucking know that. They just still try regardless.
What happens when men don't try? Nobody shuts the fuck up about it, and people think women are oppressed victims if men pay them no heed.
Those two look really cute, I want to cuddle with them and tell them how nice they smell while kissing their clitoris.
Can confirm they do. If they say they are average it means they are ugly and short.
virgin detected
Honestly, is there any difference now between Sup Forums and /r9k/? Maybe /r9k/ is less autistic.
I remember reading in Schwarzeneggers book how one of his GFs was creaming herself over Charles Bronson. He didnt get what she meant by him being masculine. Granted his english skills were shit at the time, but he later understood the charisma and mannerisms were what she meant, rather than body composition and looks.
We used to have a show "Das Model und der Freak". It were 40 minutes long episodes of what you just described and definitely delivered on its premises. The model was supposed to aid "the freak" in becoming more attractive while the freaks usually barely could contain themselves in lusting after the models. Needless to say the showmakers played with that and had scenes with the model taking a naked bubble bath with the nerdy guy given the the task to entertain a normal conversation etc.
Thinking about it, I miss that show.
Offtopic normie shit.
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A 2/10 guy can get a 10/10 girl if he has a big 10/10 bank account. This is so formulaic it doesn't really need discussion. Sort yourself out.
>any difference
Chronological vs (((merit))) based post order. It makes all the difference in the world.
>"Das Model und der Freak".
Can you translate pls?
Anyone in any thread on any page on any corner of the Internet who spends any amount of time caring about what the less intelligent, able and capable sex cares about or wants, has never had the opportunity to be inside enough of them to realize that outside of basic cosmetic variations, they're pretty fucking simple.
The model and the freak.
>Do you ever feel that some men "overestimate" their own attractiveness when talking about their dating problems?
Anyone else notice how many people these days call out obvious problems women have and then project them on beta cucks to get a discussion going?
>:A shitpost if I ever seen it
thats because no one gives a fuck about female problems, it is only when they are projected on to cucks that men even give it a second thought.
spoken like a true man who doesn't understand shit about women
>Do you ever feel that some men "overestimate" their own attractiveness when talking about their dating problems?
I think people under/over estimating their attractiveness is a lot like people and their own perception of their abilities/intelligence.
A lot of high IQ people think they aren't good at anything and are skeptical of wearing the "am very smrt ok thx" badge with pride. Meanwhile mr 105 IQ National Review commenter is not really excellent at anything, but thinks he's hot fuckin shit and is always one of if not THE smartest person in the room. Essentially, just apply that same logic to attractiveness.
Makes sense to me. :/
Is this politics?
thread should be closed desu
It's the nature of humans. All applies to women as well. Only, Chads get to hump'n'dump them.
Oh look another faggot who thinks women actually give a shit about looks. I'm good looking very good looking not kinda I'm hot with a shredded body and a big dick. Yes my looks help but my brother friend is better looking but only by about a one point. This guy has the hardest time meeting girls he can for the life of he meet women. The last girl he had a serious relationship with had two kids and was fat and a 6 at best. He was with her like 3 years then finally hooked up with 7 to 8 but only for like a week or so then she was done. He is a 6'2 model athletic absolutely no physical flaws yet can't meet women. All any girl cares about is personality that's it nothing else not even money. I have one friend who we make fun of and call Sid from ice age because that's kinda what he looks like. Fucker has absolutely zero problems with women and has hooked up with some solid 8s. Women aren't men faggot we are the ones who care about looks above all else. Women only care about how you feel and yourself and how you make them feel.
I don't over estimate my physical attractiveness. I know for a fact I'm not the most attractive guy, but I have a great job, stable life and women find me charming so I don't really have a problem. Once you get into your 30s women could give fuckall what you look like as long as you're not horribly obese it's more about your position and life and your personality. It's mostly the money though.
This is why the white race is dying
I'm trying to date someone as ugly as me. I've even tried dating girls uglier than me. No one is biting.
god i dont even ahve the balls to kill myself
God created man, and from man came woman. Respect the hierarchy. If your job is procreating, why are you trying to please your subordinates instead of your superior. It's that simple. Worry about you, and you can have any of them. It's just a fucking warm gash bro, not the sole reason you manifested on this plane.
Not my problem that genetics screwed me over and I have to settle for a 4/10 fat cunt. I'd rather die.
Try lifting heavy things up and putting them back down again first
But ugly guys get with hot girls all the time. They just have to be charismatic and rich
I'm a wizard so don't have to worry about it or the honeytrap lure of the succubus.
And if I'm not right, why trip 6s above and trip 8s here? I'd say ama but I have to go to work and deal w my mistress.
Who are those semem fairies?
Except the women who are in his league still don't want to have anything to do with him, as they can still get a side fuck from Chad at the bar when he is bored.
i'm /fit/
w-we're all going to make it brah
There it truth fuckers
>god created man
spoken like a true man who doesn't know shit about anything
I think its important to note that in burgerland 1/3 of white women of breeding age are overweight(higher for spics and blacks).
This means an ugly girl who has kept up a girly figure is average.
Yea it is do the job you lazy worthless faggot
Well it is your problem but just not your fault
This is what happens when you watch too much porn. The world used to be balanced. In order to see the glory that is a beautiful naked woman, you had to work for it. You had motivation to keep yourself in shape, to become rich, to cultivate a great personality. Now, you can spend 10 seconds typing in a search string and see the top .01% of women instantly for hours and hours on end.
Porn has ruined the male motivation to improve himself. Your brain has tricked you into believing you've cracked the top tier of women because you know what they look like naked. So many of the ancient myths had to do with men sneaking just a fucking peek at a gorgeous naked woman. Now, these porn addicts believe they are entitled to a woman who looks better than every single woman he sees IRL in the span of a month.
This is a classic example. The guy with the girl obviously works out. He keeps himself trim. He has earned the right to see her naked. The guy taking the picture has, in his mind, already seen her naked. He believes he's being done an injustice, not seeing this particular woman naked on demand.
Got an archived version of the thread on your picture? Wanna read the reactions
This is why 80% of men are single and will rather jerk or to porn
I actually have no problem with that
Natural selection at its finest
Are the arabs and niggers in your country the 20%?
Learn to green text newfag
Not on me, but if you google it, maybe you can find one.
Have another image of men who refuse to take on the sacred male burden of self-improvement.
Need this screen capped
>I am checking your post
Imagine having the genetics, 6'3ft light brown hair/blue eye germanic and then getting cancer as a toddler.
Proceeded to be runt in school until year before graduation.
6 inches of height lost due to stunted growth and fuckton of other shit.
I mean ive had 15 partners but I never could hook the ones I wanted.
Preach
here bud
What do I care?
>>Do you ever feel that some men "overestimate" their own attractiveness when talking about their dating problems?
What the fuck, Literally NO ONE says this. Such blatant deception of realities. People ALWAYS undervalue their own attractiveness. And that shitty metaphor of that kid trying to pick up daddy issue sluts at comicon? Guess what, hes got laid a shitton more than you think. He wouldn't be doing it if there wasnt success believe me. You are already decieving everyone in this thread by implying these mentally fucked sluts hold ANY VALUE in society, they are so fragile emotionaly its only a matter of time before they fuck something to feel better. The truth is if you want to rail these loose pussies, it only takes time and not being retarded.
Is this some sort of shill campaign to discorage men to think they dont have value so they dont even try? Come on man, loser stoners and beta fags get laid a shitton because they LOOK for it. Fuck off OP with your faulty preceptions of the world and straight up lies to prove your shitty point
Women just want to feel safe from everyone but their man. That's the key to women. That's why they like men who skirt on dangerous. They like being subtly reminded that he could bash her skull in at any moment because it reminds her that he could bash in someone else's skull too. Only the dumbest whores go after men who are seriously violent (like niggers), but no woman wants a man who doesn't look capable of violence.
Take this poor motherfucker. His wife doesn't actually love him. There was some social reason she married him, or she's so fucking nasty he should be ashamed of himself. What I can guarantee you is that when they have sex, she's thinking about someone else.
...
can confirm
Women's preferences: Status > looks
Men's preferences: pretty, not fat
As a man your own status is more difficult to assess though than just looks, therefore many men fail to assess their rank in the hierarchy.
read:
Holy shit, is this a pic for ants?
near every time. men who do not take care of their skin, groom their facial hair, groom their scalp hair, work out, have any hobbies or talents that would benefit a relationship, or even a damn job, always want a woman who at LEAST does all those things and more.
they think they look 'above average' when in reality they're well below. then they complain that Stacy who spends 3 hours a day on hair and makeup, and also goes to the gym every afternoon on her lunch break, for some reason won't give them a chance.
it's tiresome after a lifetime of these ridiculous male delusions and entitlement
no cuz looks dont matter just be urself bro just take a haircut get a shower bro be confidence learn game bro xD
How much dick do you get regularly? On average?
I've never seen a woman need 15 pounds of muscle more in my life.
Toddler cancer shows bad genes. Thank God it made you less attractive.
The reason no man wants you is because you're ugly, fat and passive agressive, self-hating and dumb.
You're welcome.
studies show that women grade 80% of men below average.
its women that have unrealistic expectations of men, not vice versa.
Yeah, me.
It's because the rare times I've been approached by women, it's always been women who are miles out of my league.
>It was clear he was limiting himself to women who are, well, I hate to say it, out of his league.
Its an unconscious self defence mechanism to deal with huge amounts of rejection. His standards are high so when he gets rejected by very attractive women, its not as bad as being rejected by a very average plain woman. He can also justify his single status as "there aren't enough women im into".
Fat women are the worst at this, which is why you have fat single mothers wanting 6ft tall men with 6 figure incomes etc etc. Its because they have zero interest, so they justify this outright rejection as being due to their own high standards.
i like to read green letters more than white