Let's go ahead and assume that Paddock was not the classic "lone-wolf" shooter who snapped.
Obviously MANY things are not adding up about this shooting. Leads me to consider there's something more sinister going on.
We're going with a "deep-state" sponsored mass shooting. What is their endgame if true?
Everyone's first reaction is that firearms will be banned and/or confiscated.
But considering the government doesn't possess the logistical support to carry out such an act, what are they really trying to get at?
MORE SECURITY
IF this was a false-flag, the end game is to have airport-like checkpoints nearly EVERYWHERE.
>Get checked by security to get into hotels >Get checked by security to use public transportation
Eventually...
>Get checked by security to get into your grocery store >Get checked by security to go to school >Get checked by security to get on the highway >Get checked by security to go to the mall
Etc..
Anyone care to add some thoughts or express that I'm totally wrong? I don't care, please share! I'm just vocalizing some thoughts that I've had since earlier this week.
They outraged over TSA, then it became the new normal.
Grayson Gomez
Most people would just toe the line. People are more than willing to fight if they had to, but many do not want to fly-off-the handle and wind up dead or in prison.
Parker Price
Shut the fuck up yiu dumbass retard.
Some guy went nuts and shot a bunch of people. This is far more likely to happen than some "deep state" conspiracy which literally has no evidence to support whatsoever.
9/11 truthers, moon landing deniers, JFK and sandy hook retards are all the same.
I dream of the day that everyone on the left and right rises up to kill all conspiritards.
Aiden Fisher
>How dare you question the popular narrative! >all those with dissenting opinions must be killed!
Fuck off
David Brooks
That's a bit different, most people don't fly all that often. This would be something they'd most likely see every single day.
Oliver Reed
Good post, thanks bud.
At around 00:23 seconds you can hear overlapping fire.
Jaxon Reed
When I say outrage I mean they'll start voting in people that are against said policies
Aaron Bennett
See And You're probably not ex-military or anything of that sort. And you probably don't know firearms, but that is the sound of multiple weapons.
Do you really think Stephen Paddock was dual wielding rifles? Serious question that I want YOU to answer.
Isaac Hughes
Damn, my numbers are on fire today. Doubters can fuck off!
Mason Collins
I understand, but most people will obey out of sheer intimidation. And what do we do if a majority of politicians, right and left, support this agenda?
Sebastian Ramirez
Yea, we're probably fucked in that scenario, assuming a bunch of politicians or would be politicians dont come out to meet the demand
Christopher James
All of them
Eli Ward
By all means, please contribute more than 3 words! If I am wrong, then I am wrong, but at least pretend to have a conversation if you're going to make a post!
Logan Wood
>noticed this yesterday and talked to brother about it >he actually says "he was probably just using guns akimbo style" what's the point of knowing sandy hook and vegas were orchestrated if no one will ever believe you
Henry Hughes
>what's the point of knowing sandy hook and vegas were orchestrated if no one will ever believe you
The self-gratification of knowing you're not a retard who believes effectively dual wielding rifles is a thing.
Hudson Morris
Look in lower left hand corner where man in yellow vest pulls out gun takes aim and fires. Was that friendly fire in a panic or planned, it took Anonymous to find and slow that down for all to see!
Jayden Jackson
I strongly feel this is an organized event by (((them))) and it's an outright attempt to clamp down on peoples freedoms all in the name of security. I think they will use this to go after guns too but it will be a slow process still to take peoples guns away none the less they will try to do it.
Meanwhile I think they'll try to enforce any or all of the options you mentioned.
Samuel Richardson
Europoo already has this it's fucked
Blake Allen
Who owns floors 35-39 of that hotel? Ok, once youve got that youll find one of two majority shareholders.
Jonathan Morales
I'm pretty certain that the man in the vest is an officer tasked with security of the concert. When did he return fire though? I will go ahead and rewatch it
Easton Hernandez
Are you aware of the answer and withholding or just thinking out loud?
I don't even know where to begin finding that information.
Joshua Rodriguez
I can guess who
Ryan Wood
I'm very concerned with the concept of security everywhere. Regardless of legal firearm ownship, people will obey out of sheer intimidation because they just want to continue with their merry lives.
Andrew Torres
In other words, the user that said to invest in OSI has a point and already have 10 shares in them!
Aiden Green
We need names and evidence though! Not just memes and the ol' (((triple parenthesis)))
Ryan Carter
Care to expand? I have no idea what thread that was in. And what the hell is OSI? Googling it isn't helping me very much.
Benjamin Nelson
Don't forget the towers "mysteriously" popping up in New York that was a 100 million dollar project that when inquired they refuse to offer any details.
Nolan King
Care to clarify how this relates to the topic at hand? But, personally, I have absolutely no clue, other than being pretty certain they're not for cell phone reception.
Wyatt Watson
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Jack Wood
There's a ton of proof of multiple shooters, not to mention the user that said the attack was coming 3 week beforehand.
Woman at the concert stated that there was a Hispanic-looking couple harrassing people an hour before the shooting, the woman saying "you're all gonna die" and "they're all around you." archive.is/h4A6h (indicates multiple shooters).
I shared what law enforcement believed on Monday. Left wing shooter, motivated by the election. I’ve since been contacted by others with more current information who say that is still what investigators believe motivated the event. People in a place to know.
I don’t think he was the sort of man to wear a pussy hat. He was far more dangerous than that.
Connor Brown
Weird. But it was made on September 10th, poster assumed that it would be a Sep. 11 thing, not sure if that's relevant, but everything else seems eerily accurate.
Xavier Long
>IF this was a false-flag, the end game is to have airport-like checkpoints nearly EVERYWHERE.
it's to push assault weapon registration. they want to know who owns what and where they are at all times. even if you don't carry a cell phone, there are countless surveillance cameras in most cities and facial recognition software is advanced enough to pinpoint you in real time. it wouldn't be hard to build a system that learns your routine and alerts authorities to any unusual deviations, much in the same way credit card companies freeze your account sometimes when you purchase something unusual or out of your area. it's also possible to determine whether you're carrying or not just by the shape and size of your luggage.
they don't need a guard standing at every door.
Tyler Taylor
True if big
Nathaniel Harris
He was ISIS's arms dealer and his supplier was the US government. The Las Vegas shooting was either a deal that went wrong or Paddock knew he was being set up to be the fall guy who "supplied ISIS with weapons" and was going to be sacrificed to keep the trail reaching the US government.
By "the US government" I don't mean Trump, I mean the permanent government that remain in power regardless of who get voted in.
Levi Nelson
But you assume people will comply in the first place. Many will probably lie and say weapons were "stolen" (when really they're buried in some sort of cache) or that they sold them at a gun show.
Of course some would comply, but those wanting to impliment this law you're talking about would be aware of the loopholes that go along with it.
Dominic Evans
They make a few things such as medal equipment, optical lenses, and body scanners/metal detectors.
Now the reason why this is a big is because they are the ford of metal detectors. If anyone announced some new local jurisdiction saying all casinos must have metal detectors. Then you would have 100 million dollar+ profit which would mean the value of the company goes up which means stocks are much more expensive. Also you must understand those machines cost around 5-10 million dollar each.
He also said them and some no name Corp will merge in 2020 but idk about that.
Charles Jones
It says right in the post that he guarantee anything will happen tomorrow (9-11) but that LV is on their minds.
Levi Mitchell
>Many will probably lie and say weapons were "stolen" (when really they're buried in some sort of cache) or that they sold them at a gun show.
most enthusiasts i know are pretty good about complying with firearm laws, because not doing so typically carries steep mandatory penalties and makes gun owners look bad.
the powers that be are not concerned about street thugs with unregistered guns because they know those people have little capacity to organize.
Connor Myers
If this comes out, people are going to flip.
So many people are already believing there's something fishy going on with this whole scenario
Ayden Cooper
But ask these enthusiasts that you know if they'll register their firearms. A lot of course would say yes, because they're sniveling cowards, but many others will find a way to keep them, and LIE about it
Leo Foster
Steven Paddock was an arms dealer. He used the casinos to launder the money. He gave lots of money to his brother and mother. His brother knows if the IRS investigate his income and spending, it will reveal the brother and the mum were benefitting from Stevens clandestine work.
Thats why hes so nervous and evasive
Luke White
This has been the recommendation of some and was the motive suggested by the dude that warned of something big back in September. But it doesn't make sense to me. Why would the government want that kind of a security infrastructure in place. Does it get them anything?
Samuel Miller
*most would say yes, because they don't want to face mandatory jail time if an officer shows up while they're practicing at the range
Juan Richardson
Its just my theory, by the way. Its the only thing that makes everything add up in my mind
Isaac Garcia
To my understanding (which isn't much, I'm just a peasant like the rest of you) more surveillance=more authoritative power.
Many citizens will start thinking the government is the closest thing to "God" (all seeing, all knowing, all powerful Big Brother)
Jonathan Powell
Not a bad theory though! Thanks for making a legitimate response! Rare thing to see on Sup Forums nowadays.
Parker Powell
But it does add up to a degree! One thing is for sure (to me): this lonewolf shooter narrative is getting harder to believe as each day passes
Grayson Robinson
ok why shoot up the crowd then, and if it was others, how'd they get away?
Robert Reed
I think the goal is to create as many gun free zones as possible in order to make owning a firearm the biggest fucking inconvenience. That way even though people will retain their arms, they will be mostly defenceless the majority of the time. Just my two cents.
Angel Perez
All government organization want the largest amount of drugs available as possible. More reasons to imprison people, which is HUGE money maker for the prison industry and it's political whores in congress.
Ethan Turner
Its to push gun control. In fact, the whole "whipping the liberals up" is all about trying to start some sort of shooting event in the first place so they can ban firearms. This is co-opted by globalists at some level with the assistance of some group.
Zachary Baker
See That is overlapping gunfire, not echos! I wish I had a better answer to your question though but as of now, that's all I got that there were multiple shooters.
This is also very believable!
Oliver Diaz
If you're so smart than why are you a poor, fat, white trash piece of shit? Check mate.
Justin Cox
He was making a scene. He knew he was going to get killed or blamed for selling ISIS weapons on behalf of the US government so he "went out with a bang" or did it thinking the invetigation would reveal illegal arms deals and people would work out he was being set up.
or
It was his ISIS customers who thought they were being set up and shot up the crowd after killing Steven to cover their own tracks by drawing attention to "the Las Vegas shooter"
Kayden Anderson
Because he is willing to THINK and ask QUESTIONS.
Go back to the hole you crawled out from, you fucking knucklehead.
Jonathan Johnson
>Security towers/facial recognition technology/ect... >Not understanding how it's linked to all this added "security" in hotels/casinos and likely soon schools and government buildings.
Juan Cruz
Phonefag here, I tagged the wrong guy
Camden Fisher
I'd totally buy the "arms deal gone wrong" theory, if not for the mass shooting. Why would he leave a puzzle behind if he wanted to blow the whole thing open?
And if I thought it was a set-up I would book it before I got everybody in vegas coming after me.
Nicholas Young
Yes, I don't understand! My knowledge is limited as hell! But thanks for the response!
A friend of mine thinks this has to do with "psychotronics". But either way, the towers seem like some nefarious shit!
Jonathan Garcia
Nah you’re right on the money. They’re building a nice prison country for us. Either that or they just want to irradiate everyone more. Fight back. Smash the unholy machines!
Christian Ortiz
I think he thought he left an obvious "arms deal gone wrong" scene behind. There was a 20-odd weapons around and a written note.
He just didn't count on the police cover up
Aiden Martin
This.
Samuel Taylor
Brain dead. And as if conspiracies are an exclusively ‘right wing’ phenomenon. There are probably many commies and especially anarchists who don’t think 9/11 official story was truthful. Why did WTC7 come down? What does the bottom of a boot taste like? I’m sure you know fuckhead.
Ryder Cooper
I don't buy this being planned as part of some complex government overhaul scheme... but I do think they're covering up *something*.
Most probable explanation to me seems like an illegal arms deal or a fed sting gone bad. We know the feds got up to some sneaky, shady, flat out retarded shit under Obama (ATF Fast and Furious program comes to mind), I could totally believe Paddock setting up a gun buy as part of some fed sting aimed at radicalized domestics and then going to absolute shit when the buyers show up, shoot the seller, and go to town on a crowd of civilians across the street.
If exposed the public outrage would make Ruby Ridge look like child's play.
James Myers
It does sound like multiple guns firing in the video. Do you think he came with several people and they set him up as the fall guy?
John Lopez
Who knows, but at 00:23 in the video this guy posted:
You can hear overlapping gunfire. Any military/police user lurking here can confirm those are not just echos reverberating off of other hotels. Those are multiple weapons.
Julian Powell
Every weapon in that room, thus far, has been traced to their source of purchase and under Paddock's name. If this were an arms deal, then he is the biggest retard to exist for obvious reasons.
Daniel Bailey
Possibly. There was 2 people getting room service in that room according to the room receipts. I rekon he was expecting to meet his customers there.
and yes - you can totally hear multiple guns firing from at least 2 locations in the taxi drivers video. The guns have different rates of fire and one is right above the taxi driver and the other is futher away.
Levi Wood
Checked my nigga. Also kill yourself.
Hunter Ross
I agree, the gun sounds are nothing alike so its not an echo. Do you think this is too elaborate to be an Antifa plot?
Carson James
Finkle. Einhorn. Einhorn. Finkle. Einhorn is Finkle. FINKLE IS EINHORN! So I think the two best theories for the inconsistencies and holes in the information being released are: (1)Paddock was an undercover fed arms dealer trying to entrap ISIS and a fast and the furious fuck up of epic proportions happened where the buyer(s) killed him, did the shooting and escaped. This isn't being reported because it would embarrass the FBI and implicate them in illegal activity. (2) Paddock was a leftist/antifa with the intent of starting a civil war or overthrowing the government. They aren't releasing this out of fear of further violence and are trying to connect him to other members of a domestic terrorist organization. Now these both have some supporting evidence here and there but especially (1) doesn't quite add up. Why would the LVMPD cover for the FBI like this? Especially if armed ISIS fuckheads are running around the city I would expect some brave LEO to go public and yell "MAD ARABS ARE ON THE LOOSE!" to help protect their own communities rather cover the Feds asses. So what if, (3)Paddock WAS an arms dealer of some kind but the buyer in this deal WAS NOT ISIS but rather a leftist domestic terrorist organization like Antifa bent on civil war. The cover up makes far more sense if this is the tip of the iceberg for something much bigger that the LVMPD and FBI both want to stop as quickly as possible
WASHINGTON -- Twelve Israelis who were unaccounted for in Las Vegas amidst a massacre there on Sunday night have been identified and are safe, an official with the Israeli consulate in Los Angeles said on Tuesday.
"All of the Israelis that we were looking for has been located," the official told The Jerusalem Post, confirming that their diplomats on the ground in Nevada were on their way back to California.
If it was a sting, it would make sense to use legally owned guns already in their possession rather than risk using guns from an evidence locker that could be damaged or lost.
Still a retarded plan if true, which is my whole point - if this was a fed sting gone horribly, horribly wrong they'd go to any lengths to cover it up.
Xavier Allen
it is (3) look into OPWhiteRose. If you find the women that warned the concert goers you can prove it.
Liam Campbell
>dumbass retard
HOLY FUCKING NIGGER NIPPLES!!! THIS IGNIGGERANT, "PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN" BASTARD HAS FIGURED IT OUT. CALL FBI AND CIA NIGGERS TELL THEM NEGRODOMUS HAS ALL THE FACTS AND THAT ONGOING INVESTIGSTION IS A WASTE!!!! >t. Cat in the hat nigger logic How have you managed to live this long user? Are you that fucking narrow?
Andrew Lopez
Shill
Adam Turner
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Austin Jackson
You can get a permit to alter guns for "demonstration" purposes. I know a gun Smith's that carried a .22lr AR pistol, shoots ABOUT 1,200-300 rounds a min. But the .223 full auto will throw your ass if you don't brace. Plus, shooting from such a high angle, you MUST take 1/8th up on your sights. Who ever was shooting either knew/didn't know. Or else there would have been way the hell more dead.
Hunter Young
>Let's go ahead and assume that Paddock was not the classic "lone-wolf" shooter who snapped. and why would we do that?
Julian Ward
Have you glanced at any other post in here? Or just mine at the very top? There is the sound of overlapping gunfire in the videos. Do you think that Paddock was dual wielding rifles?
Joseph Reyes
I have absolutely no clue. Antifa is probably riddled with government agents, just like far-right groups
