GUN CONTROL - WHY IT WORKS FOR US BUT I AM TERRIFIED OF IT IN THE USA

Hey lads,

Indulge me for a minute, but with all the out of control shilling on here lately I've been giving this whole "gun control" narrative a lot of thought. Normies on Facebook love to compare Australia or Canada's gun laws to America and suggest that something along similar lines would be a good idea for the United States. My conclusion on all of this? Gun control works for Australia and Canada because our government and military are WEAK and we are in no danger of succumbing to a tyranny. America has the MOST powerful army in the history of the world. Name one other time in the history of the world that the state with the most powerful military was actually a relatively benevolent force in the world and not a tyranny bent on expansion and conquest. America is a relatively benevolent force in the world SOLELY because the government fears its populace. Look at other great military states in history: nearly all, from the Assyrians all the way down to the Soviets, have been absolute tyrannies. The only thing keeping America's government behaving is the fact that there are 300 million weapons in the hands of peasants ensuring that they maintain their good behaviour; think of it like a sword of Damocles that keeps the ruling class from indulging their worst totalitarian tendencies. It is only due to the sheer power of the military industrial complex that I think it is absolutely necessary, for the security and freedom of the ENTIRE PLANET, that Americans KEEP THEIR GUNS. We are free in our safe little bubbles and we spend almost nothing on defense because law abiding armed citizens in America are keeping the most powerful army in the history of the world under wraps.

TL:DR: BURGERS, KEEP YOUR GUNS. THE FREEDOM OF THE ENTIRE PLANET HINGES ON THIS.

thank you for your time.

t. Concerned Leaf.

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anyone have any thoughts on this?

will bump for a bit, just had to get that off my chest. hang on to your guns lads. do not give them an inch. confiscation and governemnt buy back is what the left wants, do not let them lie to you.

Burger here. Not a bad train of thought.

thanks user, will do

Britbong here. Not a bad train of thought

Nice train leaf. You're alright.

>weak
>go to jail for smuggling the bible across borders

ZOG isn't going to take away guns in one fell swoop and risk anything. They're playing the long game here.

Well said, leaf.

Gee whiz mister leafy fuck it's almost like a group of highly motivated individuals who just so happen to control Facebook, Twitter and the mainstream media are trying actively trying to disarm citizens of the US or that the founding fathers of the US added right to bear arms for the same reason you wrote.

What an original intelligent and well informed thought Mr. Leaf for brains, pointing out something no human in existence has ever thought of before.

All countries should have populaces as armed as ours. It can work anywhere.

Don't worry leaf. They'll have to take it from my bleeding hands.
>tfw I'm going home to dry fire to practice for gssf and then load up some 45 auto 200 grain swc with 5.8 grains of hp38

thanks lads, like i said. keep your guns. if you don't have a gun, buy one. 250 million unarmed people were murdered by their government's last century.
story on this?
agreed, that is why it is important not to give them another inch. the second amendment has already been severely compromised by the fact that you are no longer allowed to own "military grade" weapons. i would actually advocate for civilians to be able to possess rapid fire m-16s or m-4s, just to keep parity with the state in the event of a tyrannical takeover.

In general yea i can agree with that. I more so on principle of what the founding fathers wanted.

>story on this?
It's a quick run down on how the jews are trying to take over the world. kikes call it a "forgery" but I don't really care because if you read it, it's exactly what they're doing today. Henry Ford said the same thing about the protocols.
>agreed, that is why it is important not to give them another inch
Luckily gun rights are getting better in most states, but the federal level has been stagnant for decades.

>>The only thing keeping America's government behaving is the fact

the gov behaves being it's all about money and control. They don't even have any plan that would require an armed response being that would cut into the money and control side.
The only reason we have so many guns is American's view owning a gun as this sign of freedom. We... love... guns. Like as a little kid I use to go to gun shows, at the local highschool gym, in California. That is how low key no one cares guns have always been here. Oh clearly in NO way could that happen now but still, it did in the past.

What has happened is there is just now this huge gap between average sensible gun owners and those that would never even want to own a gun. Yet nothing is going to change being if events in the past did not cause a change, nothing that is done now is going to change either. We might see another poorly worded ban on some items or gear. Still going to be a shit gun of guns, still going to be another shooting a few years from now some where.

just because you don't have a gun doesn't mean you have to be so salty. i didn't say it was an original thought, just one that i haven't seen pop up in any of the official gun control narratives or facebook discussions.

32 flavors and he chooses salty. It is a good point thank you for making it. The shill and larping threads are annoying and distracting. If you did not know about it go look up the bundy ranch stand off. The feds backed down. They knew if they kept pushing legions would begin marching.

so you aren't worried about some sort of gun confiscation law being enacted if the dems win back control of the house and the executive branch? what if public opinion shifts enough that the guns can actually run or win office on a platform of gun control? it almost happened for health care this election cycle, the left is proving that appeals to emotion work on the average woman and minority. will democrats ever force the hand of gun owners with real gun control or are they just engaging in rhetoric and political grandstanding?

dems** not guns.

>TL:DR: BURGERS, KEEP YOUR GUNS. THE FREEDOM OF THE ENTIRE PLANET HINGES ON THIS.
Agree
Ya made some good points.
But never forget, going by The American Constitution, they're the only ppl in the world not officially owned/property/subjects of the Government like we are in Canada and Australia and everywhere else.
That's essentially the biggest reason why it works for us and not them. We just make up shit as we go along "1000 bananas for every citizen is now a right" declared Trudeau, and it was so. In the US, you say "1000 bananas should be a right" they'll say "OK, where does it say that in the constitution? If ya can show it does, 1000 bananas for everyone, if not, buy your own damned bananas.
Americans are the only citizens in the world encouraged and raised to think of themselves as individuals whom the Government exists only to act as an institution to protect their god given rights.
Whereas we're raised to believe we're nobodies and that the Government protects us, takes care of us (basically owns us) which makes antigun legislation extremely easy to pass.
Makes any retarded legislation easy to pass.
This, IMO, is the biggest reason America shouldn't be compared to other countries when it comes to law.
Their laws are based on completely different principles within a codified moral framework, ours are not.
In order to say America should be like Canada, well you'd have to literally change EVERYTHING about America and Americans to make that happen
If you wanna do that and your first thought isn't "burn the constitution" than you're really just talking in circles because that's where ya would literally need to start

the public opinion polls that the lugenpresse has been pushing are very concerning though, i read from some fake news outlet that 77% of americans support "common sense gun control" whatever the fuck that means. i know the wording of these questions in polls is always super leading but still, a concerning statistic if the dems ever feel confident enough of running on a platform of gun confiscation.

godspeed brother

Well said, here's a you

good points, and a sad observation to make about our constitution and view of government. 1000 bananas for every citizen will only remain a right as long as stupid white men will be duped into paying for it with our tax money. as soon as our tax paying middle class goes, so too does our little utopia. once the minorities stop receiving their gibs our cultural mosaic will look a lot more like south africa.

ya i followed that as it happened, although the media here portrayed it as a big victory for the feds shutting down larping rednecks. i didn't even know the feds backed down (thanks cbc).

Excellent post. Yeah, for all that talk of muh drones and muh bombers USG needs us. They need peasants. They can't kill us all and blow up our infrastructure. They need to physically send thugs to make us do shit. And they can't do it if we're armed.

Gun-totin' America does not care what the c ucks think. We would choose death over the tyranny that is a gov't that disarms its citizens. Disarmament means civil war, period. And the military would be with the gun guys anyway, at least the rank and file (some generals are c ucked because of their proximity to the (((elite)))).

Wypipo, united, will never be defeated. Unless we are disarmed, but it won't fuckin happen

Thx!
TL;DR:
Canadians are scared of their neighbors and want the Government to protect them from each other.
Americans are scared of their Government and want their neighbors to protect each other from it.

guns r baad

thats because when you mention what the original intent of the founders of for you get laughed off and called a right wing weirdo with paranoid fantasy.

And many rubbing of hands commences.

Common sense gun control is largely what we have now. If you're fucking nuts or a violent felon, you can't legally purchase a gun. I think that's reasonable.

>nuts

thats why they're medicating the shit out of kids instead of slapping the shit out of them ...that and ruining the family unit.

speaking of rubbing hands, ironically (((shapiro))) is the only guy i've actually seen go on mainstream media and articulate these points, albeit much better than i can. he said essentially the same thing in his debate with piers morgan on gun control, and because he is a jew he somehow manages to avoid the title conspiracy theorist.

>500,000 dead babies per year
Not sure how to feel about this desu. That's a lot of dead niggers which is good, but that's also a lot of dead whites.

I'll need a break down on the ratio of white:nigger babies killed to decide how I feel about this.

well said my maple friend

>walking around in america
>full of freaks and sketchy psychopaths
>people out there want to ban guns

Bundy was a tax-dodging white nigger though.

slippery slope though given the despots who are in charge of determining who is mentally fit or unfit. what if they declare everyone who posts on Sup Forums an extremist who is mentally unfit to own guns? correct me if i'm wrong but in california your neighbor can call the state authorities on you, say you're mentally ill and then your guns get confiscated based on hearsay. is that true or did the supreme court strike it down?

>+3 defense against jewery because of racial stats

MUST BE NICE.

From what I've read "common sense gun control laws" are things like
>see a psychiatrist every year on your dime
>if you've ever experienced depression no guns for you
>if you've been diagnosed or thought to have any cognitive disturbence, of which hundreds of new ones are created and added to the DSM each year then you need several follow up appointments on your dime and no guns for you
And also retarded restrictions written by some one who didn't even bother to wikipedia "gun" let alone fire one
>limiting magazines to between 30-50 rounds for revolvers
>put a limit on converting automatics to single action
>regulating silencers (seriously? what?)
>making sure only a special rifle strap produced by a single company can be used legally
Even a gunless Canadian is laughing at them

Gun is only for State and soldier. This is all.

taxation is theft and immoral, especially if you are having additional taxes unjustly levied for political reasons. 1 million dollars in grazing fees? what the fuck is this share cropping?

Well said.

>yeah I know you guys grazed cattle here for 200 years but BLM owns this land now cause of turtles lol
>you guys have like half the western US though
>shut up goyim and give us our shekels

Fuck off kim

>coming from the country who tortures the children of parents who don't obey the state

BE LIKE NORTH KOREA GUIS JUST GIVE UP YOUR GUNS I'M CRYING ON TV CAN'T YOU SEE

That land was never theirs, it was the government's. BLM just started enforcing it.

Taxation pays for a lot of absolute horseshit it shouldn't, but if you want to live in ancapistan, you don't belong in the US. Or Canada for that matter.

>post starts with 14, ends with 88

what did gook-m00t mean by this?

BLM took the land from the state in the 90s.

agreed but i don't think you should be able to throw a farmer who pays income taxes in debtors prison for grazing his cattle on some un-fenced land, especially when that practice goes back to public land use in medieval england and was okay from the founding of your country until 1994.

glad to hear it user. molon labe.

wasn't it harry reids chinese buddies that wanted to own land or some shit.

>a fucking us politician got the shit beat out of him by the mob or something and said he had a gym accident.

what is this the 20s?

honestly i'm not too solid on the details of the case so i can't comment on that. taxes and regulations are killing family farms in your country though, that much i am sure of.

interesting! is milk mafia killing your farms?

i would rather rely on myself and my neighbor than the state for protection any day. one system cultivates trust and community and one cultivates suspicion, disunity, and authoritarianism.

This.

Agree 100%

This, i like this more so on point.

Based leaf. Bump of truth

Pretty good leaf. Wish more of your countrymen were like you

Right. It was never owned by the Bundy family at any point in history.

He ignored what the government was telling him because he didn't like what they were saying. So fees just kept piling up. Because his whole family is full of DETAINtards. Just like niggers do when they owe fines or have warrants. They act like they dindu nuffin and then are bewildered when they're finally hauled in.

Don't get raked, leaf. You did good today.

collectivization is killing family farms all over north america, just look at minnesota or nebraska. by collectivization i don't mean communism i mean the transformation of many family owned farms into one super farm owned by a bunch of millionaire "farmers" who then hire mexicans to do all their actual farming. the regulations and taxes on farmers make it impossible to make and keep a buck unless you massively scale up your enterprise.

i'm Albertan lads, the last bastion of the conservative white man in canada. annex our province on the day of the rake please.

>the bread basket of the world is going kosher

kek many starvings people to (((sell))) to i guess.

True, the American government created the biggest eavesdropping program in the history of the world under a president that was supposedly a constitutional scholar. There are legitimate reasons to distrust the federal government.

Jewish shill

Gun is only for State and soldier. It is necessarily for safety of citizen

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I won't fall your tricks Kim!

>Obama was a Harvard trained constitutional scholar

i always forget that the man who studied the constitution more than any other modern president was the one who was hell-bent on destroying the bill of rights. there's a very sad irony in here somewhere.

Leaf, you also must realize that America has been a battle ground since we were formed. A battle between control freaks and non control freaks, to put it simply. If we fall, you all fall!

many starving people is exactly what you are going to have if your state and federal authorities keep putting farmers out of business.

WHY GUN CONTROL WORKS IN OTHER COUNTRIES:

THERE ARE NO NIGGERS

>supporter of thievery and subversion of the will of the people has the audacity to call ME the jew
kek

unfortunate truth here, there were 30 murders in my city of 1 million people the other year, something like 22 of them were committed by somali immigrants who make up .001% of the populace.

um sweetie...

oh honey....

think its called irony or something

I agree, but also disagree.

You will eventually be taken by tyranny if you give up your guns.

The government will grow larger and larger. Eventually they will have a complete monopoly, and thus complete power.

Absoloute power corrupts absoloutely. The state will grow too large, and thus it will become a tyrant, almost just from the fact that you cant avoid dealing with it at any step of life.

The UK is a good example of what the future holds for the west:

>CCTVs on every street
>Thought-crime to read or watch certain political things. Like Holocaust denial or Hitler videos.
>The right of people to assemble will most likely go away for certain groups that challenge the group think.

>Leaf compares gun advocates to Hitler
Here we go pol its their tired shill meme again.

You dont even have 1 million niggers

The US has as many niggers as Canada has people

are you retarded and incapable of reading comprehension or did you simply not read my post?

Leaf gets it. Obviously has an American Father who was smart enough to get back over the border to safety.

But really.

>Do health care our way
>Do immigration our way
>Do gun laws our way
>Be just like us

Usa not only has the largest military on the planet, we also dump enough into NATO that I could say we are a major financier of that also.

We can't do health care like ANYONE else because we pay people based on their value to society, and doctors are high dollar citizens. We have a totally capitalistic health care system, and FORCING everyone to use private insurance has not really helped the middle class one bit.

Don't get me started on immigration, but I will ask this. All the negative press about the USA, why would someone want to come here? Really? Anyone questioning coming to the USA, I would tell them to fuck off, and it is worse than your news even trys to tell you about.

Guns and their "type" are irrelevant. If someone wants to kill, they are going to. They will never get rid of guns in the usa. They will attempt to regulate, but at the end of the day, this will not impact joe-outdoorsman and his collection of hunting rifles.

Nothing scares a liberal worse than a gun covered in black plastic.

We have the largest nation in the world. When people suggest ways to make USA like Their country...then you compare size, and you realize that England is only the size of Pennsylvania.....Just one of our 50 states, and just an averaged sized one.

So sure, tell me about how you forced your people who live like sardines into island nation as large as ONE average state and made multiculturalism work. (All bongers, pro-tip: It is not working, and you will be gone from your country.)

Albertabro, as a veteran and a citizen of Texas, I would be happy to save you from the cucking known as socialism and have you bros added on our flag.

We will never give up on the 2nd amendment.

Looks like you misspelled citizen Kimmy, don't worry, lefties misspell it all of the time.

Thanks for enforcing the idea behind the second amendment. Wish it wasn’t so hard to understand. Day of the child jumping into a pile of leaves when?