I'm no longer a civic nationalist

Why is it that I am even seeing civic nationalists as naive and arrogant now. I used to consider myself a civic nationalist and minarchist. But in every minarchist society, degeneracy always ensued. It's happening now, throughout the whole western world. The civic nationalists are stupid, they are fighting the liberals in which they caused with their ideology.

I hate you Sup Forums I used to be so much happier, I keep falling down the hole and I can't stop myself.

The only reason I carry this flag is because I haven't found another ideology that represents my ideas yet.

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Like clockwork

Every ideology today is a slippery slope towards the extreme

Congratulations, you've passed the libertarian stage. Time to reach some Moldbug, and Nick Land, and finally grasp the true nature of the human superorganism.

...also, Jonathan Bowden

Or if you want to skip the filter of modern blogging and youtubers, just read some Carlyle.

This.

I'm on step 7, but I feel like I've been on step 7 for many years. I don't ever see myself going to the eighth step.

Civic nationalism may not be the best ideology but it is the only one that can at least stop the collapse of the west.
And barely ,the rest of the ideologies cant get enough followers to counterweight the leftist cultural entropy.

>...also, Jonathan Bowden
This cannot recommend Bowden enough youtube.com/watch?v=oRpX1g_eOIo

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Communism is coming for the United States and it's within the gates. White genocide ensures it.

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No. Educating people on the importance of demographics mattering fundamentally is the only thing that will save the west. The entire law and culture of the west is the result of white cultures, and only continues to persist as such so long as they make up enough of the majority. Redpilled blacks, asians, and hispanics who want to preserve the Constitution with free speech and gun defense should be terrified of white genocide in the United States.

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Just giving you some redpilling material

White birth rates in the US are starting to go up because communist-educated liberals and libertarians are becoming less brainwashed. They were brainwashed to believe "everyone is the same" even though they intuitively understood average differences exist. Being aware of white genocide is perhaps the largest milestone to becoming pro-family.

I would say between step 8 and 9 for me.
Certainly agree that politics is genetic and mostly bound to ethnicity with a few exceptions. Also agree that any attempt to "fix" inequality, especially through gibs, destroys the competitive spirit in man that drives innovation. Love my race and my nation, would die to defend the 1st and 2nd Amendments, and am isolated from leftists/degenerates/Leninists, etc.
I really don't give a shit about homosexuality though even though I acknowledge its harm in breaking down the traditional nuclear family. I guess since so few are actually homosexual I don't perceive it as an existential threat like I do white genocide via third-world replacement. Also I don't really mind people who choose to remain childless, even though I accept the fact that it is inherently traitorous to Anglos, selfish, and fundamentally rooted in Marxist degeneracy which encourages individualism over the family. It's not ideal but I don't hate people who choose to be selfish and self-centered when they're programmed to be that way at birth.
Yeah, overall proud Anglo nationalist who would die for his people but reluctantly accepts homosexuality, infertility, and other such forms of degeneracy because I understand this has been pushed on 3 generations now from birth and will not easily be overturned.

low taxes is the only way of being pro family , you cant be pro family if you cant buy a house , the fall of the western civilization birth rates is not because muh jews.
Its because the welfare state is taxing everyone to death to finance the babies of the most retarded part of the population that lives of welfare.
This destroyed the fertility of europe and south america welfare states(south america started before with this welfare state shit tou counteract communism).
In the us republican small gov states have high fertility , democrat high taxes have insane low fertility.

So you are right about the small government thing , but its not a race issue at its core , because whites in europe and south america created the welfare states that are destroying them.

The path is to create a movement that push for small state ideology into the other races otherwise its a lost battle.

I want to support white nationalism but I'm mixed and I'm afraid I'm gonna get Turner Diaries'd.

I remember when I was a minarchist, but I was already ethnonationalist at that point.

>I want to support white nationalism but I'm mixed and I'm afraid I'm gonna get Turner Diaries'd.

You'll just be deported is all. If you help us out, we'll deport you someplace nice, like Aruba, instead of to Botswana.

>the fall of the western civilization birth rates is not because muh jews.
False. Communism is entirely leftist-secular-Judaic in origin and persistence. Almost all main organizations dedicated to open borders and anti-US-Constitution are leftist-Jewish operated.

>you are right about the small government thing , but its not a race issue at its core
False.

You're only correct about the welfare state insofar as open borders persist. Welfare cannot work without a strong population to support. That's why only socialistic states can function well in high white populations, thanks to high intelligence leading to high cyclical labor output. Strong nationalism is needed for socialist policies to function. Welfare states that reward dindus breeding is clearly catastrophic.

> I haven't found another ideology that represents my ideas yet

Who the fuck cares? Just do whatever you want and stop worrying about what it's called.

Damn. Can't we just pick and choose? Or at least get our own mongrel colony? I hate being le 56%.

If you don't focus on the future, you'll never spread awareness to change the current path. It will be less than 50% in the blink of an eye. Recognize it.

civic nationalism will lead to the same shit as leftism, all white countries filled with black people. the only thing you really care about is being inconvenienced by political correctness in your life

Christians have a solid understanding of human nature, but other aspects of Christian metaphysics cause them to erroneously dismiss legitimate patters of collectivism in human populations. 'Liberty' as a political value really only exists because of Christian beliefs about moral agency and free will amplified through a northern European psychological lens. This is a genetic fluke limited to a particular genome uniquely evolved for openness and individuality. Even other CHRISTIANS elsewhere in the world do not make the same conclusions about governance via the same exact said Christian metaphysics.

If you're going to argue for a Christian solution to the problems of modernity, the only viable answer, and intellectually honest theological answer, not attenuated by northern European concepts of freedom and personal sovereignty, is the renewal of Christian Monarchy. Isn't it telling that you will NEVER be able to convince 99% of the remaining white Christian believers of returning to the only actual Christian system of governance. Remember, pagan Greece and Rome were Republics. The Kingdom of Heaven is ruled by an absolute monarch.

And I'm not even a Christian. I'm just making the point that it, and anything derived from late protestant theology has zero chance of fixing any of our problems. Our problems come from that tradition in the first place.

No real point in changing the current path if I end up selling myself out to people who'll want me dead anyway in the process,

Ideologies are based on comfort level. Civic Nationalism sounds great when there is prosperity and everyone is happy as a result of decades of suffering and hard work. Then this comfort leads to bad decisions and people start to endure hardship again. In this context, Civic Nationalism cannot exist because the comfort level does not allow it to. As things become more uncomfortable here in the US, Civic Nationalism will go bye bye.

There is no such thing as a civil nationalist IRl.

Dumb fuck.

Cia Plz go.

why are prroblems bad in a world without god

I mean, we're open to negotiations, but we'd ultimately have to be separated, mixed breeds are too susceptible to Jewish influence.

People didn't need god to recognize the inherent problems of existence. To ask why we perceive it to be a problem to begin with is to question why we even perceive anything in the first place. Even western philosophy has acknowledge the hard problem of that question.

The insistence of working god into that equation is the reason the west has post-modernism. It legitimizes the very question that you asked, which has legitimized the negative answer, which is what is destroying the west. And all we have is two sides arguing god/no god, not realizing that the only winning move is not to play.

Here's a redpill for you. The majority of "white nationalists" aren't violent. They'll even give you the shirts off their backs. They're only interested in preserving the United States from being flooded by anti-white groups. Communism's number one goal is to destroy the US by all costs necessary, and that is primarily rooted in increasing the voters who have no allegiance to the US's founding. It's not hard to understand. 100% of mainstream (((media))) as a vested interested in portraying "white nationalists" as violent and evil when that's not true.

They're no different than the average Japanese man who doesn't want whites to flood/invade Japan. Most white nationalists aren't interested in violent removal of others and other untenable notions. Wanting sane immigration policies isn't too much to ask except of course to (((communist orgs))) looking to take down the US with perpetual appeal to "multiculturalism".

Most of them don't "hate the Jews" on a human level one-to-one on the street. What they hate is that they can't criticize and talk about facts without being crucified and it's certain demographics doing the crucifying. Imagine if Islam had the same representation in (((media))) and US-Euro (((policy))) and then you couldn't criticize the ones in power without being destroyed as "anti-Semitic" and you then you'll begin to understand the insanity of the situation that governs the US like powerless cattle.

I know most white nationalists today are sane and reasonable people, but I'm just worried for the future is all. I'll still shill for white nationalism today and for the foreseeable future but like I've said before I was a bit shook up by the Turner Diaries and what white people could "become" if pushed to the brink.

All civic nationalists have gook gf, nigger friend or are mixed themselves so they can't see things objectively and how things actually work.

I'm on stage 8 except for the working out part.

Your best bet is to establish roots among some rural people. The first people that are going to suffer in a collapse are urbanites. If you've developed relationships with white countryfolk, established yourself as a member of a community, earned trust, weeded your fucking garden, you will be protected. I think the real test of how acculturated a non-white REALLY is, is there ability to socialize with rural whites. I just know that no black or brown guy in a cabin who drinks at the local bar/diner/bnb, and feeds his neighbors livestock when they're away, is going to get rounded up.

The US isn't going to become the 4th Reich, it's going to be Balkanize, or federalize due to insufficient funds in DC.

those two things are not entire incompatible you know thats a thing you could say t o OP too
I want little state and the little I want I want to only ever act in the interest of my ethnos

Just remember it's fiction. White cultures that engineered the United States were owed to white behaviors having a higher respect and desire for the concept of "rule of law." Rule of Law trumped tyrants/dictators/kings/queens in the long run. The only reason whites would ever be compelled to want dictators is the same reason non-white cultures are compelled: as a quick stopgap to curb insanity. Hitler was a response to communism spreading, not the other way around. In other words, you should worry about communism. Communists increase globalist NWO/Judaic rule.


Worry about if communism gets what it wants: white genocide. There's no other race on the planet that would treat non-whites (of all backgrounds) as well as whites themselves in this modern age. Despite all faults. If you want a dose of how the rest of the non-white world treats others, I'll try to redpill you.