Help me destroy a numale professor in front of hundreds of normies

My professor is a typical Marxist numale who I frequently trigger by dropping red pills in class. He actually agreed to dedicate an entire class period to debate with me about ethnic nationalism.
What are some of the absolute air-tight best arguments for ethnicity being the core foundation behind identity/political beliefs/worldview instead of national pride/patriotism/shared causes/education/environment/upbringing like most normies believe?

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there is literally none since it all boils down to muh feelings anyway

Compare crime rate in US to crime rate in Africa. Use rape statistics for max damage.

op is a faggot sage

>agreeing to a debate when you don't know anything
Godspeed user

>hello mr professor
>i can prove you're gay, heres proof
>pulls out your sex tape

Venezuela banned guns under socialism. Still second on murder rates on the whole world. Ask him why.

My professor is a liberal modernist, fan of Descartes and shit, we argued for an entire hour, both got very personal and heated, going to challenge him to a debate too.

Give him the playdoh pill.
And the expanding brain meme.
Tell him radists are the least races because they want to preserve culture.

It won't work, user. You can't debate with these people with logic or arguments, because they don't give a shit about that. They have a totally different value system.

Leftists value equality above all things, and they'll sacrifice the survival of the nation and individual freedom to move closer to it. Even if you had rock solid, air-tight proof that ethnic nationalism creates strong, healthy countries with strong, healthy individuals, they'd reject it out of hand, because they don't give a shit about any of that. They only care about equality, and if things have to be unfair, or if the nation collapses, it doesn't matter, because any move towards more equality is worth any sacrifice.

If ethnicity and IQ are so important, whites should just suicide and leave everything to east Asians.
You are just as guilty of using MUH FEELINGS in your reasoning as your professor.
Fuck him, I'll shit all over ethnic nationalism ITT.

do you two have sex afterwards?

Read this book

amazon.com/Economics-Politics-Race-International-Perspective/dp/1470821036

Well if you would fuck this

this, pisses me the fuck off

Considering that everyone agrees with him and no one agrees with you, your goal in the debate should simply be to prove that your two opinions are on par and you will have essentially won the debate.
First thing to do is to get him to make a claim. Ask him what he believes the world should be like. He'll probably say he's a globalist and then just argue all the problems with globalism. You win.
Then you just have say some positive things about ethnonationalism. If you truly are a nationalist, then you should have reasons. If not, then you're just an edgy kid and you shouldn't be debating anyone.

Two Words: Jared Taylor youtube.com/watch?v=ye2tDpgU764
If you can also keep the same cadence and composure as Jared, you'll win.

Is that you m8

what a fag u could have picked the cuter version

10/10 would suck dick

>I challenged my professor to a debate, but I have no idea what I'm doing. Can you please help me?

but he doesn't look like that anymore

I wonder if he told me ethnos doesn't exist because he is butthurt about being nonslavic or something

How do you faggots get baited by stupid shit like this? There's no way an American professor is going to allow a debate like this in class.

Kick him in the nuts.
Before stomping ask "Where is your Marx now".
>debating commies... fucking amateurs

honestly take queues from milton friedman

Bump for justice

To add in I'm not looking for basic things such as rape statistics, higher crime rates even amongst educated minorities, and the successes of British colonialism vs. the state of their colonies today now that they are run by the natives. These are all pretty basic and easy; defending anglo culture isn't very hard.
What I'm looking for is not evidence that minorities are degenerate, I can't convince normies of that no matter how much evidence I present because feelz.
What I'm looking for are arguments that tie your ethnic heritage to political beliefs. Most of the kids in my class are civic nationalists, so I'm trying to convince them that genetics play a deeper role than environment in shaping your ideology and behavior.
There's a few studies that have confirmed political ideology is mainly determined genetically by race, but I need something more than that besides revealing my power level and outright saying we're being systematically exterminated via third-world migration by Zionists; that will turn everybody off and no matter what I say after that no one will process anything I'm saying.
I'm debating mentioning the Kalergi plan but I fear even that may be too severe of a red pill for most of my class.

>GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW
>hitler did nothing wrong xD
>black vs white crime statistics.jpg
>brais geg :DD

DID I WIN THE ARGUMENT GUIS?

statistics between IQ and ethnicity
statistics between ethnicity and crime rates
remember to keep on hand the one displaying the differences even in the same socio economical backgrounds

bring examples of successful nations that adopt isolation from immigrants and multiculturalism (economical growth, crime rates, employment, need of security systems indicating a fearful society, number and quality of people with degrees), while bringing examples of the fall of nations due to multicultural exchange
mention the principal (((activists))) that caused the latter and use Israel for the former

speak first or be quick of taking control of the debate; you need to have him arguing your objective points, not you arguing his subjectives ones.

This. It's a damn (you) harvest

It prolly won't work for his professor. It prolly won't work for 95% of the lemmings in the classroom. However, if it even wakes up just one or a handful of the independent minded, non-lemmings in classroom, then it will be worth it. You shouldn't walk into these situations expecting a mass conversion. Set the goal as potentionally acquiring just one new ally.

Civic nationalism doesn't work, take modern day US as example, it's is a mess, nogs can't even take themselves up to respect the flag/anthem.

Civnat works only in homogeneous societies. But it's not that simple too, take say - USSR or China, both were homogeneous societies (all white - at large, or all asian), yet they had and still have various different ethnic and religious groups that don't give a single fuck about the flag or muh great country. USSR had all the Baltic states that weren't Russian and felt very disaffected. Now take religion, China has the northern muslims - ughyurs IIRC - that chop up some hundred people in machete attacks few times a year, chinese patriotism means fuck all to them

break out now confirmed 1920s anthropology and cro magnon lineage.

Please ignore everyone in this thread supporting you, as they are making the same mistake you are.

There is no reason to debate your normie professor, the only reason you would do this is because of your ego. You think you need to proof him right because he is wrong, but what you fail to see is that the only thing that will accomplice is your ego getting a boost. There is also a fair chance you will alienate yourself from everyone you know.

You are right, but they will not learn. Pearls before the swines.

just fuck his wife you retard.

Make it about how ethnic minorities are losing their culture by race mixing.


Turn their love for nigs against them.

Talk about how racially cohesive societies are typically more functional because tribalism plays an important part of our subconscious. Give examples like Plato saying so, the fall of Rome, and the failure of the Soviet union.

Then draw some parallels between present day political diviseness and diversity - we are more politically divided today as a nation than we ever have been, and it's no coincidence that we are also the most diverse that we have ever been.

Also talk about how the Hart Celler Act in 1965 coincides with the beginning of a decline of a lot of consumer indexes and an increase in crime. Talk about how people naturally segregate and decide to live in their own neighborhoods.

Talk about affirmative action and how setting different standards for different ethnic groups makes public education more difficult, expensive, and less effective. Talk about how it's actually kind of degrading to black people for them to have different standards set for them. You can even go into how the rate of marriage and stability of black families was better under segregation. Talk about the failure rate if interracial marriage and the insecurity of mixed race people. Go into how it's not at all unreasonable to assume that people who evolved on different continents will have different characteristics, strengths, and weaknesses.

Most of all, preface and conclude your argument by pointing out that different doesn't necessarily mean superior (although we know it does in our case.) Talk about how slavery was bad and created unfair conditions for blacks. You have to carefully disarm everyone's indoctrinated position that everyone is equal and that youre a racist before they'll be interested in what you're saying.

You have to find sources to back all of this, of course, but it's not hard to do using this board and some searching.

Red pill the fuck out of those normies, user, and shut that faggot professor up for good

Yes, thank you for understanding.

If even one person in my class takes the debate to heart and get woke, then the domino effect could be tremendous.

One woke anglo could wake one of his friends, who wake on of their friends, and the cycle continues until eventually thousands could be red pilled.
I'm not looking to 'win' this debate, since I know logic and facts don't matter to Marxists. But if I can just get a few thinking, then it'll all be worth it.

No fucking way you can argue this without being banned from the university for hate facts.

but:
-How can you share a society with someone on morality if you have conflicting ideas on morals? IE Muslims think you should stone those who drink alcohol.
-Every multicultural society collapses: from Persian Empire to Rome, to Austria-Hungary, to USA. People are never loyal to multiculturalism, they are only loyal to their own group, and strike when the opportunity presents itself.
-People are naturally more amicable to people who are like themselves (studies on this exist)

etc.

If you need some raw data and stats fast I would look into The Alternative Hypothesis (YouTube and blog). It's completely foolish to do this in the first place but at least get some substantive data to back you up.

That defeatist attitude is why we're losing.
I don't have to win the debate, I just want to get a few people thinking outside the Zionist narrative.

>-How can you share a society with someone on morality if you have conflicting ideas on morals? IE Muslims think you should stone those who drink alcohol.
Man, I need to edit my posts better.

>How can you share a society with someone, when a society is based on shared morals, and different groups have conflicting ideas on morality.

the absolute state of nu-Sup Forums

cringe

And on top of that, there's the biological argument:

>A human's purpose is to spread genes
>An ethnic group has similar genes and common ancestors
>You work together for common evolutionary success
>Aliens only act as competition
>Aliens are actually thousands of years of evolution removed from yourself
>They evolved for different traits, IE in a land with cyclical season of winter, they don't need planning or forethought
>Mixing of the genes causes outbreeding depression (you can find studies on this, might be difficult though now that google started censoring hate facts)
>In other words, groups exist to protect and proliferate their genes. Other genes are shit and you don't want them.

Exactly.

East Asians are more intelligent but they're highly prone to collectivism/hive-mind mentality. Their lack of creativity or capacity to think as individuals is their weakness.

All the great intellectuals and world-renowned scientists are overwhelmingly white, because white people, especially anglos, possess critical thinking capability beyond any other race.

If you want a team of ants to build something massive in a short amount of time or need some number-crunchers then Asians are great, but if you want innovation and individuality white people are necessary.

Use your enemies own arguements against them such as

>muh nordic countries have higher quality of life we need to copy their system
Well theyre also majority (99.9999999%) one race and until Sweden started letting in muslim refugee's they were enjoying it. Now according to the UN they will be 3rd world tier by 2030 with according to their HDI.

Find every single thing liberals always point to about the Nordic countries to shit on America with and relate it all back to when the countries were/are majority White. Also there was a study somewhere about how all race's prefer their own kind and it creates solidarity and higher trust society. Is it your first time on pol? Go watch some Jared Taylor.

Genetivs don't shape your ideaology unless you are a low iq ethnicity, so back to the original point.

In seriousness this is the best point to use:
>we value diversity of people and culture
>integration will mean no diversity in 200 years, and only a single international culture and people
>separating people is the best way to preserve diversity

If you have to make the point that race is connected to culture:
>races evolved tens, hundreds of thousands of years apart
>humans have common ancestor 270,000 years ago
>culture evolved alongside race and is more suitable for this race biologically
>do you not believe in evolution professor? In 270,000 years, it would be impossible for no differences, with such differences in environment

Thanks Leaf, will use this in the debate.

I have to be careful because if I fully reveal my power-level I'm perceived as insane and my Marxist professor wins. I have to calmly and peacefully present logical arguments while circumnavigating the torrent of feelz and subjectivity my the lemmings.
It's not going to be easy.

*by

This is true in the modern environment but is not genetic, look at ancient china. Using this argument will make you look like a retard, just point out that niggers are stupid criminals.

Thanks, was going to use some the HDI 2030 projection on Sweden.

Have heard about Jared Taylor but never watched him. He does a podcast called American Renaissance right?

This, ask him first if he believes in god, obv he doesn't because he's a atheist-marxist degenerate

Then ask him how are people that have lived apart and evolved apart on absolutely different continents and geographical areas all the same. Something along these lines, can't rephrase it that well

True, the cultural revolution by Mao is more responsible for the decline of critical thinking capacity in Asia than genetics.

Still though, perhaps a secondary argument could be made that it was their genetic predisposition towards anti-intellectualism that drove them towards the teachings of Mao.

>Have heard about Jared Taylor but never watched him
JT is one of the first huwite identity personas you should look up, it's a must, very well-spoken, intelligent and you can find statistically backed redpills, say, on crime on AmRen website

>expecting a basic answer right away asking someone if they believe in god
>there were no cultural differences between europeans and native americans

This thread is retarded

Thanks!

I hadn't even thought of this but I can completely turn evolution against them if I phrase it this way. Then the professor will be seen as anti-intellectual, giving me a huge advantage in persuading the audience.

This was probably the best advice yet, thank you.

>expecting a basic answer right away asking someone if they believe in god
Implying people won't answer a yes/no question, especially a marxist on such issue

>there were no cultural differences between europeans and native americans
Lmao, and what did I say?

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ljPTcUMT4co

check this japanese economist

>Do you love your parents?
>Does that mean you hate all other parents?

Jesus fuck, you're not up to date on modern Nobel laureates are you?
This is such wishy washy bullshit.
Japan is easily a better nation, by area, for the planet than any white country but you don't see IQ fags and RACE REALISTS mentioning that shit other than to say utterly subjective ant meme arguments.
Sure, they're not prefect and are fucked in their own way, white societies are not objectively the best at anything anymore.

you people don't actually say that you're a white nationalist in the classroom, do you?

Attack, attack, attack. On the defensive you can only lose. This people fear ridicule and ostracism above all. Show how his positions are ridiculous.

Attack especially white privilege/stale pale homogeneity vs. there are no White people.

And agree & amplify his attacks on you.

Also, these lemmings don't think, so impress them with sCi3nCe! Go to Chateau Heartiste and make a note card with every study on the Diversity + Proximity = War reading list. One sentence conclusion on one side, author(s) and year on the other. Have em ready to go come debate day.

Once he's reeling from the damage done to his worldview make the positive case. Someone post that screencap with the beavers

Also just curious but why do you have a nigger flag? You're clearly not a nigger or nigger-sympathizer?

Japan is a better nation because they're 99% Japanese. Although they do unironically have a problem because of a lack of chads, similar to what we're seeing in the West.

Regardless, if America were 99% white, things would be much different. The reason why there's no mass shootings or crime or degeneracy (besides anime faggotry), or civil unrest in Japan is because they're all ethnic Japanese.

The only true white society still standing is Australia, and even they still have to deal with the Abos.

There would be many flaws in that, namely other countries who have adopted communism and the factors of his revolution.
Not defending that argument but Japan had US lead reconstruction

>Also implying Nobel Marxist Multicultural prizes mean anything anymore

Ask the class if anyone has moved from Baltimore, Detroit, any highly diverse area with lots of cultural enrichment. Then ask that person why they left for a more "American" (white) region. If you're so gung-ho about diversity, why did you leave such a melting pot for a more culturally and racially aligned region? Surely, you're not a closet racist are you?

It's one of my more subtle trolls I like to pull on left leaning individuals. It's always fun to watch the hamster wheel spin with that cognitive dissonance.

>no degeneracy
Have you ever seen Japanese porn?

Of course not, that's an immediate expulsion for wrongthink.

You drop subtle red pills where you can and hope people start catching on. In this case I got lucky because the professor got tired of the fuckery of his narrative so he's trying to destroy me in class. I still won't say I'm a white nationalist in this debate, or even mention the words ethnic nationalism or national socialism, but since most normies are ignorant as long as I argue the points of these ideologies without actually calling them by name I'll be fine.

I mentioned the anime faggotry user, make sure you read the entire post before commenting.

How is anime related to porn?

>immediate expulsion for wrongthink
Nice freedom of speech and thought you have there.
OP, look at the pic related too.

Watch you some Jared Taylor. People naturally feel comfortable among people like themselves. Anyone who desires otherwise should be free to associate as they wish, but no one should be forced.

(Be prepared for 1950s lunch counter argument)

>have a problem because of a lack of chads
dude, you are so fucking retarded, please go receive a basic education so you can convey your ideas like a human fucking being.
DESU, if we send blacks back to Africa, they're just gonna get recolonized by neo-nazis with fighter jets and ICBMs and then the world will devolve and we'll have to learn all over again that you can't be happy and dehumanize a human simultaneously.
I fucking hate Zionism and american neocons and all those child rapists that own everything but racists are vestigial.

Also google Bowling Alone, social capital and the Righteous Mind.

Diversity destroys trust.

The more religions, languages, and cultures present in a country, the less tight, high-trust communities can be formed. Instead of a cohesive people who form families, neighborhoods, and communities where everyone TRUSTS each other, you will get a low trust society, where everyone skips all social structure but interfacing directly with the government.

See
>archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

Of course the government loves this because imagine how big the power differential is between them and individuals. If instead of "Write your congressman," it was all the families in the town agreeing he was doing a shit job (they can agree so easily because of how similar their faith, culture, and lifestyles are) and collectively acting against him, government would be a hell of a lot more accountable than it is now.

Diversity is not our strength, it is the governments strength. And if the people are too divided to hold them accountable, then they will only serve themselves, and just sell themselves to the highest bidders.

you should hire some marxists to barge in and disrupt the debate so that he looks bad and loses automatically

>Diversity + Proximity = War

Whenever someone drops the "diversity is our strength" strawman, strawman twice as hard with Native Americans, or if you have one of (((those))) types of professors, Palestine. Much butthurt can be had.

Because that's where all their degeneracy come from. As an anime fan I can tell you like 90% of anime is filled with sexual degeneracy. Even in legitimately good animes with a well thought out plot there's still going to be a "fanservice" episode thrown in just for the lulz.

Oh yea, you have an idea that could win if only you were in that sweet inner circle?
fuck off.

Good ones.
But it is useless to debate Marxists. They do not listen.

this all can be verified online:

CA authorities admit there are 750,000 illegal children in their schools
CA spends $122,000 for each child to attend school K-12th grade

This comes out to about $92 BILLION dollars and since most illegal invaders pay no federal tax and a low amount of local tax, Americans are paying for this

You know just as well as I do that any burgers claiming to be free are retarded. I think we're more free than Western Europe right now but our 1st Amendment rights have been compromised so drastically over the past 25 years.

Then do that. Make them see the truth. Embarresing yourself in front of 100 peers will not do that. Talk to them personally if you genuinely want to help them, in stead of boosting your ego by 'pwning' your bluepilled professer in front of an audience. You have tasted the red pill but you have much to learn.

OP

THIS MIGHT

HELP YOU

jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

>The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentric Cooperation

>Journal of Artificial Societies and Social Simulation 16 (3) 7
>
>DOI: 10.18564/jasss.2176

Sure it's useless to debate Commies. It's the fencesitting normalfags you're trying to sway. Only way to do that is with feels. Just gotta strawman the other guy twice as hard so he becomes extremely butthurt.

Theres a study out there about how diverse communities have a and a higher degree of political apathy and lower civil engagement. E.g. less likely to think their votes matter and less likely to help/participate in the community.

You stupid nigger-loving faggot, you can't trust the natives to build a sustainable modern civilization on their own. Colonization by the "neo-Nazis" as you call them is the best possible solution because the natives are satisfied with their gibs, they're contained away from the mainland, their land can be used to grow the mainland, and the genes of Anglos remain pure. See South Africa, India, and Hong Kong under British rule in comparison to now. Things were so much better when Britain controlled these lands because they knew how to maintain civilization while the natives didn't.

I don't even know what the fuck you're going on about with fighter jets and ICBMs. There was military equipment brought in to keep the gibs from chimping out but as long as they were in control of the colonists everything was fine. Britain's greatest mistake was giving away all their colonies to the gibs and leaving them with all of their weapons and resources.
Colonization is optimal for low-IQ subhumans.

He's trying to win a debate, not to look retarded.

You seriously still believe in Nobel prizes?
That's like supporting the Emmy's, what kind of faggot are you? Go to Hollywood if that's what you're into.

Not bad

see Normies cannot think for themselves, but they can be trained to follow simple precepts. Three of these is that they are "rational", "rational" beliefs are reached by "logical" arguments, and that resorting to name-calling or violence means you lost the argument. If you let the commy argument go unopposed, it wins by default. But if you make them start angrily shrieking, it will make them uncool losers in the eyes of the undecided. Sure, the die-hard marxist will only become more convinced of their righteousness, but you will cauterize their spread.

Please record and post if true, mention date and time of current CNN headline right before entering class to verify authenticity

To thrive early in evolution, it is useful for population clusters to support their own kind. Later, as the world fills up, it is useful to exploit the cooperation of neighboring clusters.

hmm

These guys understand.

>What are some of the absolute air-tight best arguments for ethnicity being the core foundation behind identity/political beliefs/worldview instead of national pride/patriotism/shared causes/education/environment/upbringing like most normies believe?

Why are you getting into debates with people if you can't make arguments yourself? An even better question, why do you believe the things you believe if you can't even justify it without running to Sup Forums for help? You're low IQ, low information, and your Professor is going to pull some obscure statistic out of his ass that only a few people here would know about and be able to debunk. You are going to get eviscerated and made to look like a bumbling idiot and your classmates are going to hate you. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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