Could the situation in Catalonia turn into a war?

Could the situation in Catalonia turn into a war?
I recently read that Catalonian officials have demanded Spanish national police leave Catalonia. Today I saw the Spanish government saying declaring independence would make the Catalonian officials be declared as outlaws.
Does this have the potential to turn kinetic?

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Only if France intervene then it would be like Texas Independence, in other words, an atrocious thing that should have never happened

France and Spain won't go to war over Catalonia, surely

That wall ain't gunna build itself paco

Without a catalonian army, it will be overrun within a couple of days. With a catalonian army, it will be overrun is a few more days. Not going to happen.

Catalonia is serbia.

>Could the situation in Catalonia turn into a war?
No
>Does this have the potential to turn kinetic?
No

You can start hyping up Spain going more nationalistic, though. The leftist parties are being all under fire these days and the right-wing pro-union Spanish parties are getting more and more support.
I've started to see that memes of the only organised right wing party in Spain are gaining popularity.

>I've started to see that memes of the only organised right wing party in Spain are gaining popularity.
¿PP o C's?

VOX
Even if they're pretty meme, they're at least pure.

Vox

>inb4 this

Nope, there are pacific or at least less agressive ways to deal with this problem, an if the Catalonia issue end in a war it would be the shortest and more pathetic war in our history.

>Cantabria
>Basque
Fucking Paradox

Norberto Pico, leader of FEJONS, has got some exposure after he gave a speech in Zaragoza on 1st October

Every declaration of independence means war... let me remind you of 1776 old chap. :P

FE de la JONS is pretty unorganized actually. They can't decide if they want a National-Syndicalist Republic like Jose Antonio wanted or being the ruling party with a monarchy like Mussolini.

Every big catalan company moved out of Catalonia this week since they depend on the spanish market. Jordis' GDP and tax revenue is fucked. Catalonia is not economically viable and independence has not been even declared yet.
Madrid is just waiting for the declaration of independence to crush the separatists at once.
If they don't declare independence, rabid masses might lose control, thus Madrid would use brute force to and crush the separatists at once.
Moreover, whatever happens, Podemos (far-left) is fucked as well due to their overt support of separatism.
Fasten your seatbelts, boys.

>being this triggered about losing Texas nearly 200 years later
Pedro pls

>tfw Aragón is currently telling every Podemos politician to fuck off and to Colau to never return.

Do we get to see tanks crushing antifa members or not?

Maybe
youtube.com/watch?v=jytIS6BHFwQ

>That southamerican music

I dont get how Puigdemont and his friends arent in jail for high treason already, what is wrong with you guys.

Fucking fantastic choice of music

Tanks won't be necessary, but expect massive Jordi chimp out, whether 1) Puigdemont is arrested or 2) he doesn't have the balls to declare independence.
Madrid has already sent special operations groups to control Barcelona's airport and other critical infrastructures. Antifa separatists will get mad as fuck.

He wil face charges whatever it happens, but if we wait till they declare independence, they shall get a considerably more severe sentence, and Madrid will be legitimazed to take whatever measures are necessary to reestablish control (i.e. use of force, suspension of catalan autonomous powers, etc.). This must be a third and closing act. Besides, PSOE (socialdemocratic party) is not truly supporting the Central Government, but they will have no choice when shit hits the fan.

If it does turn into a civil war would Britain get involved at all or would we stay out of it?

does that referendum have any legal standing whatsoever?

no

No, itd be like if California just held a referendum without going through the government and getting any sort of approval first

>If it does turn into a civil war would Britain get involved at all or would we stay out of it?

We're crippling Europe for our and their benefit.

Do your part.

Probably by presure of the fucking EU and the media, you know, they love the victimism, if they go to jail now probably all the sjw, jew media and the cucked EU will probably cry and complain about that, so the government its waiting for a good moment, and also the separatist movement is falling itself, companies and banks leaving Catalonia, economy it would get fucked, the separatist politicians are not doing anything and they cant do anything, so politically they are fucked too, and socially a lot of non separatist catalonians are "waking up" because they are tired of this circus and want to get back to their live without stability and peace. Separatist movement of Catalonia is a meme.

What if he accidentally pass away in his bed totally not because of fentanyl/carfentanil ?

With stability and peace*

Absolutely no, 0%

It was an unconstitutional referendum held by the indipendetists where you could vote multiple times.

Ok I see thanks

Someone post the picture with the jordi voting at least two times.

The average citizen has little taste for war. The mentality isn't the same as it was in the 30s.

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Nah. He wants to become a martyr for the separatist movement. They think EU will actually give a fuck this time.

smller counties tend to be wealthier better governed and mre stable

he goal hould be to split up europe. only he brits swiss and norwegins undersand this nd its why they are 8x as wealthy as you. because you sre centrlized hellhole like china.

btw ntire chinese provices ave higher per capita gdp than spain now

cmon now civil war is a spanish tradition older than bullfighting

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Send weapons to independentists, expect happening. We will then send the army.

We're just waiting they do something illegal, but they are too afraid. Jews act like that, they don't have real balls.

kek

VOX

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Im more triggered by people using Aragón's flag instead of Calatonia. CATALONIA HAS A BLUE TRIANGLE AND A WHITE STAR PEOPLE.

Making this last a bit longer is in our best interest.

This week we have witnessed a rebirth in spanish nationalism unlike anything we have ever seen in decades. People finally waving flags and calling for unity.

Non-separatist catalonians are finally able to express their views in public, and theres is a big pro-unity march tomorrow. The commie party that made it to congress last election cycle is absolutely fucked, because they have helped the separatists and have always rejected spanish nationalism, and even they are starting to adopt a more nationalist position just to try and stop the bleeding.

Let it last a bit longer.

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>brits swiss and norwegins undersand this nd its why they are 8x as wealthy

Yes... that is the reason, the only and unique reason...

>smaller countries tend to be wealthier better governed and more stable.

Of couse, all of them, there are not other facts or things makes a country better, only cares the size of the country.

We are not too centralized as you think.

Stop being turbodumb.

Spain owns a lot of completely uninhabited islands, just send the traitors there if they want their own nation so bad, and then fill the Catalonia region with loyal Spaniards

the communists are helping us

accelerationism my friend

not jst accelerationism but also the restoration of personal responsibility. secession is good. weakning the eu is good

Kosovo jest Serbskje,Catalonia es Espana

>¿PP o C's?
Are you retarded? You may as well vote for Angela or ((them)).
Do we have any single anti-EU party that is not meme tier in Spain?

>Spain owns a lot of completely uninhabited islands.

i think all of them are habitated, but its a good idea.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Spain

Im just going by this wikipedia article, according to it you have plenty of tiny islands with nobody there
you know what to do

I want to see Catalonia secede. Bring on the spanish civil war v2.0

>turn into war?
>its war you idiot
>rich catalans are already escaping
>you better be a shill dude

yes. there is also the fact that your people are lazy low iqand corrupt. these are factors 1 2 and 3.

country size is 4. nd everything in euope is cntralzed compared to america and east asia.

britain and switzerland decentrlzedBECAUSE hy arent as retarded as you.

centralization correlated well to corruption and lw iq. france is in he middle and germany closer to britain hn spain in iq centralization and wealth

>One island filled with ANCAPs
>Another island with UBI
>Another island with commies and anarchists
>Last island with republicans
That would be awesome. It would be like the hunger games on steroids. I was going to say the running man, but the former has a more fitting name.

FE de las JONS

They are free to build an island of trash in the middle of the Atlantic if they want independence.

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name one benefit of unity and one bad thing about idependence.

if your iq is above 100 which fully 80% of spain is not, then this task should be easy

BASED CATALAN FELLOW MEGAPEDES

Bahahaha this is what manolos actually believe. It's funny to see low iq manolos be so secure about what they say when they're actually clueless about everything.

any spaniards care to explain this?
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I'm far behind on this, so who do I root aka for who is really the communist sympathizer so I know who needs to be crushed?

You guys are fucked

nice reponse givn that you advocate steling hir land and killing them. i hope they kill your children.

The weak should fear the strong

>Spain focusing on a real issue.
Where do you think you are? It's FREE CATALONJA!! AND KILL ISLAMIC GOMMIES!!
Corruption is not something people care about.

Clueless? ok, what its happening jordi, redpill this thread, are you going full retard posting the folder of shitty jpgs? or are you going to say muh leader its going to declarate the DIU on monday?

Catalonian separatist commies VS increasingly more nationalistic spanish patriots

Spain is fucked, that's why we're leaving and why you left too Paco. None wants to live in this shithole of retarded moors, not even you judging by your flag.

both sides are accusing each other of fascism, so there'll be antifa on both sides

desu I just want Sup Forums to learn of the issue, I know this board loves their conspiracy stuff

Not a conventional war, mainly because:
1) Catalonia has no military power.
2) EU cannot tolerate a war in Catalonia.

However, the non conventional war that can be in a week it started a month ago, with violation of fundamental rights.
If the question is, can the violence scale? Yes, that's what the majority of Spaniards are asking for. There're already 15000 cops and the military is taking control of strategic infrastructures like ports and el Prat, etc.

Note that all the main Spanish parties, the King, policies unions, major labor union wants a complete repression, so at some point violence will arise (if Catalan do not accept a complete submission)

>The real issue is some politicians stole some spare change

Its not though.

the separatists are hard red communist and the unificationists are soft socialist ommunists

thy all deserve to die so let them earn he consequences of their bad decisions as a wake up call for europe

Would be fun if they lost all the autonomies they once had.

Catalonia is not going anywhere. Catalonia will be Spains little whore for another 500 years.

The last world war started with a Spanish civil war why not this one too

Their monthly newspaper continuously dismisses the king, they are full nat-syn. Problem is that the possible militancy is spread out between three parties that are the exact same, the main difference between tha falanges is their position on Franco. So instead of a 50 thousand strong FE de las JONS you get three 9000 strong parties, pic related, they still hold aesthetic events

you did on the spanish sucession war, why wouldn't you now?

It is. It's not just spare change. It's hiring companies who do a half assed job and charging 5x or more, it is getting shady deals with EU that slowly dismantle the little first world parts we have in our country, it is selling our sovereignty away and it is politicians not doing their job, but instead slowly drifting towards becoming a province with no right to choose.

>Bahahaha this is what manolos actually believe. It's funny to see low iq manolos be so secure about what they say when they're actually clueless about everything.
Claims Jordi after withdrawing all of his money from catalan banks.

Madrid in this moments

twitter.com/escipion2003/status/916610435587207169

Rumors said that they will declare independence and then automatically try to take airports and another basic infrastructure.

In that case the government is ready to use force, and they know it.

The E.U needs to collapse but not at the expense of great European nation and people.

BOY AMERICANS SURE ARE RETARDED FOR
HAVING LEGAL GUNS, AM I RIGHT GUYS

that's a funny way to spell "the governing party was outed on a fuckhuge corruption case, has barely faced repercusions and lots of people thate are going to declare die, with mainstream media barely making mention of the issue"

Do not give a (You) to Rufián

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France wouldn't support Catalonia, they have their own Catalans and have no desire for a weaker state on their southern border. Not to mention, if the Catalans break away, it likely means the Basques can break away, and both ethnic groups are present in France, causing more trouble for France.

It's pretty likely that anarchist/fascist shadowtroopers invade

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more of a prequel and testing ground than the actual spark, but sure

lol dat fake seizure