>released in 1997 >suspicious 9/11-style asteroid attack that no one questions >everyone is happy to march off to war against retarded bugs that live in caves which were somehow responsible for the attack >soldiers underprepared, thinking it will be easy quick in and quick out job, get promptly BTFO by bugs >get forced into for a long and bloody war/occupation against cave desert bugs who have no idea why they are being invaded
>suspicious 9/11-style asteroid attack that no one questions Explain... bugs send the asteroid
Jaxson Collins
Would you like to know more?
John Hernandez
False flag
Gabriel King
This. If there's one book that should be recommended reading for /pol it's Starship Troopers
Jaxson Rivera
thats exactly what the federation wants you to think
Aaron Sullivan
Are you retarded?
It's literally a satire of white, conservative America in the 90s.
Eli Richardson
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a parody of fascism. Still a dope ass movie with cool music though. youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
Isaiah Jackson
Whoa, all these years I thought the projectile bugs were responsible. But, those bugs don't launch asteroids, do they?
James Murphy
How did the bugs send an asteroid from the other side of the galaxy? It would have taken them millions of years to hit Earth, thus being launched well before humans even were sentient, let alone space-faring.
Really makes you think.
Jayden Harris
It's the best Nazi Propaganda movie since the actual nazi days
Jeremiah Martinez
It was softening up the American public for a war with Iraq.
Look at the way it propagated routine neonatal circumcision which we know white Americans are crazy about.
Tyler Robinson
Yes, the faggot who directed it tried to make the film a satire on fascism while people hilariously rolled with it and rooted against the bugs thus completely cucking his intended message.
Jackson Morris
>he STILL thinks the bugs didn't hit Buenos Aires with an asteroid I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all!
Jayden Green
>Look at the way it propagated routine neonatal circumcision which we know white Americans are crazy about.
Nigga what
Michael Collins
The faggot that directed Robocop.. what have you directed, loser?
Angel Diaz
You deny they're crazy about it?
Joshua Kelly
So did the author imply that it was a false flag? Or did the director's screwed up?
Nathan Turner
oh, shit....I need to watch this movie again. Was always my favourite scifi flick growing up. Seen this shit in theaters with my dad as a kid.
Elijah Edwards
Don't the bugs spread by launching eggs and spores randomly out into space though?
Juan Powell
What's even more of a mystery is how this movie even exists, as it was produced by Jizzney.
Imagine the kikes releasing this today. I sure cant.
Somehow, they managed to make the kike censor fall asleep or find a way through when he wasnt looking.
Jonathan Martinez
>t.never read starship troopers
i bet you also hate District 9 kys
Grayson Nelson
Yes this. The book is excellent.
Justin White
Yeah but they reproduce very slowly, and there aren't any near Earth, the galaxy map that shows the Bug Empire has them on the other side of the galaxy, so 100,000-ish light years away from Earth. Since an asteroid travels slower than the speed of light, it would have taken them millions of years to hit the Earth.
The director completely changed the author's message and made it a tongue-in-cheek parody of the book. The book is totally different to the film.
Noah Watson
Robocop is overhyped to hell and back, Verhoeven's only legitimately excellent job in directing was in Hollow Man.
Gabriel Harris
The director was a Jew who made it space Nazis, as opposed to the book where the Terran Federation was a blend of Fascist nationalistic values but American libertarianism in society, a strong emphasis on competition. The bugs where commies, literally described in the book as "A colony is perhaps the perfect communism, but even then there's the caste." But overall the movie was fun and cheesy enough to be aged but aged well, so I really hope they don't remake a book accurate movie because that'd be boring shit.
Aiden Clark
Diz's tits.
John Smith
No, in the book the bugs attacked with a ship or spore-infested asteroid. They also had spaceship bugs, like the undine in Star trek, and literally pushed the Federation to the brink of collapse. There were also minor aliens called the skinnies who took the role of Italians and changed sides halfway through.
Jose Fisher
I saw my first pair of movie tits while watching this. Nise.
Angel Mitchell
it is a satire, but it was too smart and the left thinks its fascism propaganda.
Ian Torres
just finished the book a few weeks ago, you can't call yourself redpilled until you read it.
Camden Perez
nph is literally dressed like a nazi, so comfy
Jayden Jones
>the left thinks its fascism propaganda. Wait? You can't be serious. I mean, I know lefties are legit a retarded hivemind.... but still
Camden Lewis
Have you seen the new starship troopers. The skymarshal (some woman) trys to get mars BTFO so she can justify more war. And she only gives a shit about her ratings on the polls.
Jayden Powell
the movie was supposto be like making fun of the right, fascism, military industrial complex, ect. but when it was released the left reeeeeeeeeed hard about how this movie was promoting fascism, although i was younger I remember this movie getting savaged by the film critics.
Tyler Foster
They fight 'skinnies' , basically africans in the book, primarily with flamethrowers, many lolz were had
Oliver Butler
I guarantee that I'm older than you (actual oldfag) and I remember it being savaged because it was over the top, not for racism.... then again I was an alcoholic around that time so I could be wrong
Jordan Sanders
>racism >outing myself as a phone poster I mean facism... apparently jewgle prefers (((racism)))
Lincoln Cox
Yeah, the book will put some hair on your chest
Levi Martin
...
Justin Turner
racism against bugs is no laughing matter m8 BLM. I remember one reviewer calling them nazis or glorifying nazis, made me want to see the movie more. and that shower scene!
Henry Turner
Not very if you read the book.
Compared to the book, this movie is for mongoloids.
Jordan Brooks
Yup, I remember reading this a few years back, a lot of the 'history and moral philosophy' lessons and such were quite good.
Aaron Long
also Argentina is white
Carter Cooper
The real redpill is that the Federation launched a meteor at their own city to justify a war. The proles need a unifying cause against an external threat, should they turn against their oppressors at home.
Benjamin Moore
I rewatch this movie on a biyearly basis, so damn good, it's impressive how the CGI still holds to this day
Henry Fisher
>defending the moview book There is a really messed up shower scene in both that made me scared to join the army. It's in my experience anti army propaganda
Dominic Cruz
The uniforms were inspired by WWII German ones. The intelligence guys are wearing Gestapo clothing while the pilots are wearing SS panzer wraps.
Bentley Harris
Shower scene made me scared of public showers. Also made me scared of the army in general
Jonathan Ramirez
this was the last movie with minimal cgi, when she flies the little ship through the bigger one, its all a scale model (except for the little ship). I totally agree with you the effects twenty years later are still good. that shower scene was why i joined the army
Christopher Evans
hugo boss in the early 40's is definitely /ourguy/
Caleb Clark
use the spoiler tag next time assmunch
Jeremiah Parker
>being this newfag
Alexander Collins
Are the sequels worth watching or no? Do they have any tits as rockin' as Diz's?
Evan Walker
no and no
Benjamin Scott
Sequels are fucking terrible, don't watch.
Jaxson Myers
I don't think Paul Verhoeven is Jewish
Austin Rodriguez
I've never actually made it through either of the sequels, and I've seen the first one enough to recite it by heart. Spare yourself the agony.
Parker Bailey
This, here are a few quotes from the book:
> “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
>“The best things in life are beyond money; their price is agony and sweat and devotion ... and the price demanded for the most precious of all things in life is life itself - ultimate cost for perfect value.”
> “To permit irresponsible authority is to sell disaster.”
> “When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.”
> “Under our system every voter and officeholder is a man who has demonstrated through voluntary and difficult service that he places the welfare of the group ahead of personal advantage.”
> “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms”
Amazing book, HIGHLY underrated and I'm surprised it's not talked about on here more. It's actually required reading for 4 out of our 5 military officer academy's.
Nathaniel Harris
So can anyone explain how this is satire on nazis or whatever? Seems to me that the bugs are clearly evil, and even if they weren't a bug is repulsive enough to make anything seem better in comparison. Is this about the asteroid 9/11? Is this about how you have to serve in the military to earn citizenship? I quite honestly cannot pick up a trace of satire in this movie.
Elijah Parker
What shower scene in the book? Not ringing a bell.
Sebastian Davis
>required reading for 4 out of our 5 military officer academy's How is a work of fiction required reading for a fucking war school?
Adam Morgan
HEY LOOK A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO REGENERATE THE FORESKINS HEY YOU TWO LOOK LOOK AT THIS
Nicholas Ramirez
>How is a work of fiction required reading for a fucking war school?
Did you read any of the quotes I posted? This book is much more than just fiction, look at the message it's sending. It sends a lot more than just that. It was written as a response by a redpilled writer who was mad that America had quit producing Nuclear weaponry while the Soviet Union had continued the production on theirs a few days prior.
The message that this book sends is a message that every NatSoc and patriot would love, even if it is fiction.
Bentley Morales
>how is a book about ideas that might have value outside the book
There are many spectacular Russian authors, so I know you're not all this retarded. Get yourself together Vladimir.
Isaac Morgan
Director of the movie used the libshit logic of "anyone who is right of me is a literal nazi" so he decided to make the movie a parody and make the uniforms look like nazi ones. That being said, it's still a fucking awesome action movie.
If it preaches certain ideologies that goes well in a military structure.
Robert Morales
best movie ever.
Caleb Collins
So basically the entirety of the satire is contained in the fact that they're wearing nazi uniforms? How is the message of the book different from the movie if at all? Because it seemed to me that it was pretty much in line with those quotes that other user posted. Was it really just "hurr I'll make the good guys wear nazi uniforms, nevermind that they're actually right"?
Robert Cox
Fucking Ayy. Younglings, ya best fixing to read this book. It's not even that long to y'all unfortunate A.D.D. types. Can Denise Richards be more; >Æ S T H E T I C [][]∆ Dang. I was 7 in 1997, yet... Still hella crushed on her hard, boy I'll tell ya.
Jose Flores
Verhoeven is a complete faggot. He made the movie to mock or satirize Heinlein's vision of the story. Thankfully most people either thought the movie was stupid or didn't get his "point."
Ayden Barnes
Yeah, but you'd imagine your military is supposed to stay apolitical, and making your officers read a right-wing book where the author backs his ideological convictions with fiction, not fact, seems to be pretty far from that. What if your people vote for a left-wing government tomorrow? Meanwhile all your officers are right-wing. That would get you dangerously close to a military coup.
Carter Walker
I saw the movie when it first came out. It had a weird vibe re sci fi but am a fan and liked it. Had no idea it was a Heinlein story.
Lincoln Torres
>Chad Troopers
Angel Rogers
what're you fucking gay?
Samuel Edwards
The book is only considered right wing because it is duty-oriented and nationalistic (in a sense). The traditional dichotomy of left/right only applies here because the left have become faggots of no nation in the last 40 years. Its not like the book explicitly recommends capitalism or something. Most of the monologues are on the nature of rights and responsibility rather than any partisan politics.
Mason Cooper
Yeah that would be a real shame. Total tragedy. Would really suck if that right wing military rose up and formed a government in spite of civilians.
If only there was a book about it.
Andrew Cruz
Which starship troppers did you watch? Because I saw the one about a society that is a blend of exactly what you're describing. What the fuck do you think the shower scene was meant to portray? And the fact that both men and women were on the frontlines?
Also Paul Verhoeven is the biggiest anti-jew thats ever existed. How the fuck do you come up with your opinions? They're just fucking wrong on all levels.
Chase Cooper
brb library run
Bentley Morales
It's nice to think that even though they tried to make it shitty, the concepts and philosophy of the book shone through and subverted their subversion.
Same thing as fight club. Apparently the author was a hyper fag that was trying to shit on masculinity, but he was working with ideas and archetypes that overpowered his snark.
I don't know if its in the book but they surely mean the male and female recruits casually showering together.
Nathaniel Evans
Thats not in the book, the only real discussion of gender is the fact that women make better pilots for physiological reasons to do with reaction time. The boots on the ground, grunt sections are male only.
Carson Barnes
So basically the director of the movie was attacking his own misinterpretation of the book when he dressed them into nazi uniforms. It's all a bit dumb, and I get a feeling I'm missing something.
I was going to give it a read anyway, seeing how it's often recommened on Sup Forums; I guess now is as good a time to start as any.
Carson Butler
I wanna orgy in that shower.
Nathan Collins
Nope. The book was about an all male infantry unit. There were female military. I believe the main character went out on a date with a friend from school. I believe that was suppose to be Denise Richards character as there was mentioning of women making better spaceship pilots. The female character in the book had a shaved head because being weightless in space with hair is a pain in the ass. It was a minor part of the book. The rest of it was infantry guys in infantry only bootcamp and then infantry in combat. Some mention of telepaths like Neil Patrick Harris character. Clancy Brown's character was suppose to be a tough guy but not necessarily a big guy. Not sure about that last part. There were several Sergents in the book. Oh and K9 units.
Dylan Long
>another faggot that doesnt read books
Nicholas Morales
The best way to watch Starship Troopers is to take everything 100% literally, because it utterly fails as a satire.
Fascism is awesome and sexy. Gas the hives, bug war now!
Jordan White
The sequels suck. NO fucking imagination to the storyline.
Brandon Fisher
That actually happened circa 2040 in the book.
Christian Edwards
Lmao reading is for fucking nerds lmao
Michael Cox
Are there any other redpilled scifi books or movies that you guys would recommend?
Aaron Robinson
Only good thing about this movie was Buenos Aires being destroyed
Brandon King
The book has a lot of important concepts in them. No specific political parties mentioned only that the civilians fucked up everything. Which they do. Trivia: Heinlein was a naval officer. Medical discharge. His brother was an army officer and went on to become a general.
Jack Nelson
The book only had men in the MI, hence why the Mermaid Effect was referenced a lot when Rico was on R&R after camp.
Jose Lewis
how on earth is that anti-army?
Colton Lopez
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and The Forever War
Juan Edwards
> (OP) >>suspicious 9/11-style asteroid attack that no one questions >Explain... bugs send the asteroid Jesus, you're fucking dense.