is it going to happen?
Is it going to happen?
Angel Lopez
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Owen Wright
The EU Jews won't let it happen, and Spain is too incompetent to handle it.
But it is one more rumbling before the storm.
Isaiah Hernandez
Nothing. Spanish government will wait it out until people lose motivation, small moments of rebellion will be squashed by police.
Coups are impossible without the military or an armed militia on your side.
Isaiah Ross
No. Even if it does no country would recognize it as legitimate in order to not piss off Spain. If they can independence it would be meaningless.
Robert James
>Catalonia gets independence
>promptly replace themselves with niggers in a generation
>A now red pilled to the gills Spain can legitimately launch a reconquista against godless Semites and salafist Nig Nogs, backed by Trumpenriech freikorps
>DEUS VULT
I see literally nothing wrong with this.
Brody King
Michael Price
First there will be Blood.
*Blocks your path to the independence (suicide)*
Colton Brooks
nobody cares one way or the other
Mason Russell
good to see the king of /his/ has arrived
Jeremiah Harris
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Ayden Anderson
Kek no. Actually a lot of pro-spain people are rallying right now in Barcelona.
These independentards turned a lot of population into hardcore spanish nationalists, including all those catalans that werent independentist (or didnt give a fuck about it) which got tired of all this bullshit.
Not to forget that many catalan businesses and banks have already left catalonia and settled in other spanish cities, ie madrid or valencia.
T.catalan that is also tired of this bullshit
Zachary Hall
>implying there is any reason to allow separatist movements inside a country
Robert Carter
Beautiful :')
Let see when will the butthurted Jordi appears in the thread talking shit and posting the folder of the same jpgs of every separatist thread to demonize Spain.
Xavier Mitchell
>no declaration
>spain says national police stays
>no international support
>constitution is ironclad
>pro spain rallies in barcelona
>tfw the police can continue beating the separatist cucks with impunity
>it's beautiful
Brandon Rogers
It's approaching. We already have Crimea, China building shit in the sea, and open questions about how to redraw the lines in the Middle East.
If the EU makes it to a process of chaotic breakdown, which the Trotskyites want, and which has happened in relatively recent history, then such a thing will be possible.
Evan Rogers
Talked with a Spaniard at work, he said the Spanish government will exempt Catalonia from some percentages in taxation and they will call it a day.
This was their main goal, threatening with independence was the means to achieve it.
Blake Ortiz
We need more nations, not fewer, in the long run. I hope Catalonia does secede.
Brayden Murphy
Seems sensible. Economy is politics, and renegotiating should be normal and ongoing as a solution to the changing world.
Luke Baker
I hope not, that flag looks like dog shit.
Cameron Hughes
>it's another "more rape baby fantasizes about being white" episode
Brandon Bailey
Yes, soon Sup Forums will have a new flag. It's unavoidable.
Blake Sanchez
>Implying Germany's actions aren't directly leading to the fragmentation of the EU
Joseph Scott
>when your shitpost is ruined by a spelling error
Thomas Williams
M E M E F L A G
Sebastian Ortiz
I wonder how targeted they will be.
Will Catalonia become the new Sweden? Or are they unbeatable?
Joseph Clark
If you took out the yellow it wouldn't be so bad
Daniel Gonzalez
If they get the independce (its not going to happen) be sure that it would be something like Sweden but but the economy of sierra leone.
Benjamin Nguyen
go get me a towel Joao
Evan Peterson
even pro-Spain Merkel-TV admits they are non-catalans moved in by bus and train.
Tyler Phillips
oh please, do you think in the pro independence rallies are only catalans on the streets?
Cameron Smith
Fuggin hope so
Ryan Martin
There is no alternative market available, these regions are doomed to fail due to economic boycott. Not having constructed a sustainable plan to manage the population nationally and internationally is destructive and naive for the own citizens.
You cannot allow this to become a precedence case for any funny region who decides for personal reasons to declare independance on behalf of generations to come.
Jordan Morgan
Remind me again what almost caused a Grexit a few times? And why bankers flipped their shit about Brexit?
The black market always wins in the end, Hanz. And the black market was what got the PIIGS in despite the requirements of the Maastricht Treaty and then landed the denbts mainly on DB. The whole plan was to have the EU blow economically up right on time, except things didn't go as planned.
Charles Gray
CATALONIA YES!
Colton Sullivan
looooooooooool
This is truly the best timeline.
Jaxon Ward
No.
Henry Parker
>legitimate unionist flags flooding Catalonian streets right now
>Cowards asking for "more dialog" bashed
>Right-wing and patriotism resurrecting all over the country (Spain)
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I guess NOPE :) Meme-lunya is DOOMED
Cooper Nguyen
Good luck going independent based on black market eceonomy model.
Grayson Mitchell
The EU has absolutely nothing to do with it you mong.
>falling for Russian propaganda in their attempt to destablise Europe and the West
>Russian Linked Leave.EU Figures Targeting Elections Worldwide
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>Russia Promotes Division Everywhere Else
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>Russia May Be Helping Catalonia Secessionists
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>'Fake news city' is now pumping out odd Facebook videos
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>Russia’s plot against the West
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Owen Barnes
If the superstructure breaks down then the black market economy model will do the job. This always happens when the superstructure fails. We see it happening today in failed economies, and we've seen it happen in Europe before there was even something called "Eruope" or a "nation-state."
Connor Smith
>The EU has absolutely nothing to do with it you mong.
Incorrect. They're running scared because they can no longer afford to issue financial demands (e.g. Brexit, Grexit) because the mismanaged economy is so fucked up that geopolitical unity now trumps economic viability.
Samuel Baker
Catalan here and there is a SHITLOAD of people here, I've never seen this amount of people ever.
Today is a good day to be spanish
Samuel Price
It has taken decades, but patriotism is here to stay.
Juan Allen
Puigdemon is the best spanish President there's ever been.
Hudson Jackson
>The black market always wins in the end, Hanz. And the black market was what got the PIIGS in despite the requirements of the Maastricht Treaty and then landed the denbts mainly on DB
One burger mixing up.
There were no PIIGs Eurozone members complying with annual deficits no greater than 3% of GDP. What failed here were populists politicians not making necessary structuras reforms and delaying until the crash in 2011. The final govt. was buying short term debt at 7%-9% interest rate - reaching this boiling point and how many Stability and Growth Program (meme name that they gave) it passed or 4th tried to pass, it still wouldn't fix it.
I still don't know what do you mean by black market. It's better you explain or rephrase or I will discard your opinion and classify as user 5 / Frank LARPing tier.
Luis Sullivan
>There were also
Asher Nguyen
if you try to troll, at least choose one side.
Hunter Garcia
They were not allowed entry by the 3% rule in the first place except that Goldman Sachs in particular wrote a bunch of derivatives fudge the books. Most of these derivatives got unloaded on to Deutsche Bank as a means to control the EU from NY because Germany has always been the main target of ruling Europe; a lesser amount was put on SocGen because France is the main other player in the Franco-Germanic power play that rules Europe.
Black market refers to anything that happens "under the table." These derivatives are black market. But it's also black market when you trade your neighbor some tomatoes for help fixing a window or whatever. When the government-run systems fail, individual people always engage in mutual trade to get by in life.
Nicholas Howard
Not trolling mate.
What I meant is that Puigdemon has united the spanish citizens like no other spanish president ever has.
Please accept my apoligies if it felt as if I was trolling.
Michael Thomas
This.
All independecucks and commies saying "rajoy creates independentists", while puigdemont has created spanish nationalists like no one ever had, at least in recent history.
Gràcies putxi :)
Jack Rodriguez
thanks for shitting up my land you bunch of fucking niggers
you are all niggers, both sides of this conflict
some day soon, the time will come, and we will put you against the wall
You deserve to be hanged and butchered alive
Noah Torres
Thanks for clearing that up
>They were not allowed entry by the 3% rule
Yes. But 3% rule is also after they enter the Euro. Most of those operations were made after getting into Euro.
I questioned you about black market. I was only getting this definition:
>But it's also black market when you trade your neighbor some tomatoes for help fixing a window or whatever.
Samuel Cooper
>But 3% rule is also after they enter the Euro.
Once you get in you can't get out. It's a ponzi scheme. At first it's fine and there's no problem. Then you try to get monies out of Greece or other PIIGS. Then you realize you fucked up hard and you can't let the EU come apart and you have to keep them in. Does that make sense? The whole thing began from a steel trading agreement; shit like this was why it was so important that Trump canceled the TPP and TTIP immediagely, regardless of whether he's a shit president or not. This stalled the global world order government.
>black market
Can you ask the question again? I'm not sure what you mean.
Camden Phillips
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Aiden Hughes
>follows the King - a man literally ordained by God
You know what's as bad as commies? Monarcucks.
William Young
Lot of butthurt castillians and andalusians here today.
so much for iberian integrity.
the basques will be watching this with extreme interest.
independent catalonia incoming.
Charles Martinez
>independet Catalonia incoming
>You was expect that the 2-o catalonia started to being a country
>Mfw is 8.oct and you will never be a country.
Brayden Green
Dominic Hall
>Basque here
>also an unionist.
You're so fucked and alone, catacucks...
Noah Parker
More like
N E V E R
Jacob Price
>Kim-Jong-Puchi
>not Puig-Dem-Un
Nicholas Edwards
If they do, will FC Barcelona be out of La Liga?
Ryder Hill
Either it gets independence peacefully or Europe gets hit with an internal refugee crisis and Spain runs the risk of Balkanizing. Either way spain's economy is fucked. And the EU will try and shift blame.
Adrian Rodriguez
I've been following this shit a bit and I can say this
Catalan separatists are commies, and they are the worst kind of commies, nationalist commies
Their leaders are hypocrites little shits with shaddy backgrounds and they are just guiding the community to a certain political and economic suicide
Now, what I am hoping for, is that the Catalan leaders are not brain dead and they actually use this scalation and drama to blackmail the goverment for tax freedom like the Basques region
Luis Garcia
Pablo Iglesias on suicide watch:
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Colton Watson
whats that? Why is spain and catalonian flags 50:50? Are they for and against independence at the same time?
Benjamin Gutierrez
Maybe it's saying they're Catalan and want to remain in Spain.
Nicholas Cruz
The Senyera is the Catalan flag. It has no political connotation. It is a very old flag, much older than the Spanish one. It is completely genuine.
The Starred flag (estelada) is the independentist one. It will never be the flag of Catalonia, it's a temporary symbol, for separatists.
Cameron Morris
Nah, it was bogus from the start and people have already stopped caring about the police """brutality""".
Alexander Adams
Because that's the LEGAL Catalonian flag, the one from the unionists. The starred one with a blue triangle is the ILLEGAL and independentist flag
Daniel Barnes
Exactly
Adrian Campbell
Gotchya. Thanks.
Brayden Price
Starred flag looks like flag of some venzuela or colombia
It looks much better without it, but maybe catalonia are foreshadowing their future
Aiden Evans
>tfw he's exiled of the country
Kayden Stewart
>EU flags
They literally cannot help themselves. A demonstration for national patriotism, but nah lets chuck a few irrelevant flags in there.
Aiden Myers
>they have no army
>they have no resistence militia
>putting children in first lines....
>are you kiiiiiding me?
>you are a white male!!!!!!!!
Kayden Richardson
hope it just doesn't bother my holidays to barcelona m8
Carter Smith
>implying a Bongcuck will understand. Why haven't you left yet?
Grayson Clark
Damn, I fucked up my greentext. Pls no bully.
Thomas Flores
Spaniards are unaware of what the EU truly does and think of it as a peaceful union of European countries for economic help, sadly.
This is probably due to have almost to none terrorist attacks like Sweden or Germany or France constantly have.
Oliver Mitchell
What will happen on Monday (or on Tuesday)? Will there be blood?
Jeremiah Martinez
u serious mate? i hear about a terrorist attack coming outta spain every week now.
Connor Williams
I really hope he get exiled, its just a butthurted commie.
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Ayden Ross
>>pro spain rallies in barcelona
lol
Buses from Spain have been confirmed though. People are too dumb to not post pics on shitter and talmud.
Ethan Barnes
I don't even mind if they support it, it just seems like a dumb thing to bring to that kind of demonstration.
Owen Ortiz
Slo national media says several hundred thousand people attended.
And 180 buses from other parts of Spain.
One bus=50 people
>calls people dumb
Wyatt Thompson
Nothing will be happen, the separatist will keep being full retard and maybe they get come negotiations for taxes (in my opinion is a mistake, we shouldnt negotiate with traitors) or something similar, with nothig more far than that.
Lincoln Morgan
>where is the EU army when you need it
t. every EU-administrator ever
Caleb Stewart
This is what I've been trying to say for so long. Puig is a smart version of Rajoy.
But the face of Spain I've seen these days is subhuman tier. There's no way out.
>Francoist flag guy calling other people fascists
>Absolute untermensch harassing a Russian reporter because they think she's a commie.
>People calling Assange a CIA/Kremlin stooge.
>People praising EU for not intervening, feeling proud to be European.
Why the fuck are we so bluepilled goddamnit?
William Perez
That was the last terrorist attack in 13 years, actually.
Some parts of the south really redpilled at least.
Benjamin Gutierrez
There were also trains and shit. And they wrote the names of the towns where ((they came from)) wrong.
Jason Gray
I think so too. The EU has nothing to do with this issue at all. Maybe it's a message that they love Europe (not the EU).
Nathan Cox
Every week? where the fuck did you hear that? we only had that one in Barcelona but nothing more, maybe some detentios of Jihadi shit, but nothing about terrorist attacks here.
Camden Butler
>seperatist
You should've focused more in English class yesterday
Jason Cruz
tbf Barcelona and Madrid have had some serious raids over the past years. Not a year ago I read on the news about Barcelona recruiters and proto-terrorists getting captured.
Ethan Cooper
Hopefully not, you homos
Henry Wright
That's the face we've shown these days.
Uneducated, arrogant and easy to control.
There's no greater argument against equality than watching these mobs on the streets, except perhaps listening to what they say.
Dominic Foster
Catalans want independence while immigrants do not.
Chase Lee
Bahahahaha that's in Zaragoza and those are Manolos going to the mani in Barcelona. B-but muh silent majority of catalans...
Angel Turner
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