HAHAHAHAHAHA >According to a new report, scientific evidence fails to support the “born that way” theory of sexual orientation. In addition, there is “no evidence” that “all children who express gender-atypical thoughts or behavior should be encouraged to become transgender,” the findings state.
>The authors reviewed several possible explanations for the “born that way” hypothesis, including genetics, exposure to prenatal hormones and neurobiological differences. In addition, by presuming that sexual orientation is rooted in genetics, researchers or clinicians may miss other relevant factors including childhood physical or sexual abuse, which is experienced in disproportionately high numbers by nonheterosexuals. If nonheterosexual desires, preferences and behavior were indeed biological, they would remain fixed throughout life. Instead, “there is now considerable scientific evidence that sexual desires, attractions, behaviors and even identities can, and sometimes do, change over time.” In short, it is a CHOICE.
>The study also refutes the transgender myth. “The hypothesis that gender identity is an innate property of humans that is independent of biological sex (that a person might be ‘a man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body) is not supported by scientific evidence.” A variation of this myth argues that a transgender person has a “male brain,’’ but a woman’s body. After reviewing studies of neurobiological differences in the brains of transgenders, the report’s scientists state that “all interpretations, usually in popular outlets,” suggesting that brain differences between transgender people and others are “the cause” of being transgendered are “unwarranted.”
>Lawrence S. Mayer, M.B., M.S., Ph.D. is a scholar in residence in the Department of Psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University. >Paul R. McHugh, M.D. is University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry and a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. He was for twenty-six years the psychiatrist-in-chief at the Johns Hopkins Hospital.
Colton Richardson
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Brody Ross
Link?
Ryder Anderson
They didn't actually study anything or anyone. It is literally one guy's opinions about trannies based on fringe cherrypicked research from the past. The University doesn't endorse him and performs sex change operations.
I don't know dude, you kind of seem to be the faggot here.
Jose Hall
That’s just what trannies and faggots WANT you to think
Xavier Richardson
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Hunter Turner
sounds like something a faggot would say
Grayson Smith
Why are faggots such bold-faced liars? >It was one guy's opinion Nigger, I literally posted the two scientists who were in charge of the study and in charge of those under them participating in the same study. >The university doesn't endorse him That's not what it says in your link, also "advocate.com" literally tabloid-tier journalism? Get the fuck out of here and go let some other degenerate fuck you in the ass, no one needs your bullshit fucking up good threads.
Chase Robinson
>inb4 "detransitioning"
Oliver Gonzalez
"In 2013, amid increasing health complications, Alexis … began presenting herself as a man again, telling [her close friend] Ibrahim that “‘gender is bullshit.’ That ‘putting on a dress doesn’t biologically change anything. Nor does a sex-change.’ She said that ‘sex-reassignment is physically impossible. All you can do is adopt these superficial characteristics but the biology will never change.’” That realization, Ibrahim suspects, was the likely source of her deep wells of emotional torment."
Austin Harris
smoking pot turns people gay
Kevin Lee
Wow amazing research!
What exactly did he study? Nothing!
You can't link the study and have never read it. It was published in a far-right Jewish journal for religious themed sociological works that is not peer reviewed.
William Powell
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Parker Moore
>advocate.com Enjoy your GRIDS deluded faggot.
Julian Wood
well, dont act like "you were born this way" when lots of other trannies are waking up and detransitioning. Dont run from sources whose conclusions you dont like.
Kevin Jenkins
>Lawrence S. Mayer, M.B., M.S., Ph.D. is a scholar in residence in the Department of Psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and a professor of statistics and biostatistics at Arizona State University. >Paul R. McHugh, M.D. is University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry and a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. He was for twenty-six years the psychiatrist-in-chief at the Johns Hopkins Hospital.
>"literally one guy"
Matthew Smith
Every action that you make is a decision, with who you sleep, what you like, what you don't like, the born that way argument is ridiculous, my ideas and opinions are not chained by something i was not able to control. I'm a free man, I'm not a slave of my circumstances
Ok so two people, and they didn't study anything. They are summarizing old studies.
Parker Sanchez
fake and gay.
Isaac Brown
Fags do nothing but lie, truly a mental illness
Hudson Roberts
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Angel Watson
haven't you succeed in proving the greater society that their is nothing wrong with homosexual behavior or transgenderism? You don't need to hide behind the "I was born this way" veil any longer. You choose to suck dick and spread STDs at a rate far greater then the heterosexual community and that is now OK. I see it on TV all the time. Its cool.
Alexander Mitchell
>gaymer jesus fucking christ can you perverts keep your fucking sexuality out of anything?
Nathan Lopez
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Nathaniel Murphy
Look at twins who happen to be gay. Only 1 in 4 twins are both gay.
Gavin Martinez
Even my Gaaaaaaaayyyyyyyest friend who has a good heart told me that it was His choice. He said he went gay because women didn't want him so he found it easier to go with guys. Faggotism is an abomination but men like him still bring truth to the world by not lying about it.
Ryder Hill
also, what a shitlord. If a guy made some sign like that about a famous girl the headline would be about how a creepy guy was asking a celeb out, but since this little faggot is gay and wants to sexually solicit an adult straight man, its totes cool, lets call it "Young woman begs Chris Hemsworth for marriage, assuming she doesnt kill xirself in the next 5 years"
holy shit you found the unicorn, an honest faggot.
I've always been convinced people become bisexual to increase the number of potential sexual partners because they were not pleased with the results when limited to one. Basically just sexual opportunists.
>In a follow-up study by Zucker and colleagues of children treated by them over the course of thirty years at the Center for Mental Health and Addiction in Toronto, they found that gender identity disorder persisted in only 3 of the 25 girls they had treated.71 (Zucker’s clinic was closed by the Canadian government in 2015.72)
rake when?
Charles Davis
"In any case, the need for additional work in relation to the genetic aspects of homosexuality cannot possibly be questioned. The urgency of such work is undeniable as long as the aberrant type of behavior continues to be an inexhaustible source of unhappiness, discontentment, and a distorted sense of human values"
That comes from the conclusion of the Kallmann 1952 study. You really sure you want that counted as a point for you?
It's called meta analysis, reviewing a bunch of separate but related studies and distilling common patterns, trends from the data. It's a perfectly valid and necessary form of scientific inquiry.
Jack Brown
Yeah those were their attitudes back then. The data speaks for itself though.
People have claimed in prior threads this was new research or somehow affiliated with the University.
Jayden Rivera
>Findings from family and twin studies support a genetic contribution >influencing development of male sexual orientation. >contribution >influencing
People can have genetic predispositions to cancer, too. That doesn't mean lung cancer is a lifestyle choice or that you're "born with it".
Jason Green
>"908 analyzed" Like your feminine penis, the size is too small to be of value
Austin Gutierrez
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Bentley Bell
yea, it says "this was inconclusive and we need to study it more" not "HOLY SHIT, FAGGOTRY IS GENETIC!"
Angel Ramirez
wow, you really are gay and retarded.....and here I thought you might just be trolling
Grayson Scott
And now we have studied it more and continued to see high rates of genetic link and correspondent self-reported sexuality in monozygotic twins.
A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.
Authors: T. C. Ngun [1]; W. Guo [2]; N. M. Ghahramani [3]; K. Purkayastha [1]; D. Conn [4]; F. J. Sanchez [5]; S. Bocklandt [1]; M. Zhang [2,6]; C. M. Ramirez [4]; M. Pellegrini [7]; E. Vilain [1]
Very nice OP could i get a link to the paper possibly ?
Liam Thomas
How can homosexuals pass down a gay gen if they can't reproduce? What a fucking scam
Aaron Long
This is a bot
Isaac Perez
yea, I was just about to call him on that and the fact that his list is just a hodgepodge of shit that is more and more unrelated as the list goes on
Matthew Flores
Have you gotten your surgery yet? Is that why youre so desperate to defend it?
Levi Young
no, he is using someone else to make his arguments for him. Its that shit lefties use to try and "win" debates....cant for the life of me remember the name of the website/app
Lincoln Foster
In this Post: Reading comprehension skills of a child.
Suicide attempts among trans men 46%, and trans women 42% . This is a mental illness.
Ann P. Haas, Ph.D. and Philip L. Rodgers, Ph.D., American Foundation for Suicide Prevention Jody L. Herman, Ph.D. Williams Institute, UCLA School of Law
Thomas Adams
Well, over 20% of gays do have kids from adoption, surrogacy, or from prior heterosexual relationships.
Beyond that, I linked a study showing that female relatives of male homosexuals have 1.3x the number of kids. Using that calculation a professor from a Georgian University found that if straight men and women are assumed to carry genes for male homosexuality as invisible carriers, then the genes can persist in a stable manner over generations.
see the image in I am not a tranny. I don't defend them.
Benjamin Nguyen
It doesn't matter. You could gather mountains of scientific evidence against them and nothing would change. There's no point trying to. This modern society is the fruits of decades of moral decay at the hands of the Marxists. You're watching the death of the family structure that has sustained humanity for millennia, and they aren't even tying to hide it anymore.
Adrian Watson
If you're born with a penis you're a man.
If you're born with a vagina you're a woman.
Feelings don't trump biology kikeberg.
John Cox
>prior heterosexual relationships. But THEY WERE BORN GAY
Tyler Lopez
>it's a choice
That's just about as dumb as saying they were born that way.
Gabriel Miller
Paul Cameron, a famous anti-gay researcher claims he had sex with an older man as a child. Does that mean he is gay?
Samuel Turner
no, it makes him bisexual, you silly, silly faggot
Hudson Foster
And what other option is there?
Caleb Baker
Ok so why does he identify as straight?
Cooper Collins
Best post let’s start purge
Hudson Reed
And yet he may be presumed to know much more about the topic than some biased fag writer with an axe to grind based more on politics thwn anything approaching science.
Caleb Cooper
>Heterosexual relationship So not fully gay, uh? There are shades of homosexualism? There are different genes that make you more or less gay? >Adoption So are you implying that genes are passed through adopting? Or that gay parents induce their way of life to children? >Surrogacy Which part gives the gay gen in most of the cases then? The mother or the father?
Jayden Harris
I think gays have some genetic or hormonal factors but transgenderism is 100% pseudoscience
Gays have been well documented throughout history trannies (as in the idea of I'm a female trapped in a male body) have only been for about 50 years or so
>Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way. “At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics. Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.” Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”
Get rekt, faggot
Henry Taylor
because he is delusional. You can identify as a unicorn, but it doesnt make you one. You are not what you say you are, you are what others recognize you to be.
Jackson Nguyen
13k upvotes, 33k likes, james woods is a madman
Ian Moore
That means he was molested, you fucking idiot.
Josiah Foster
You can have an innate preference for the same sex and engage in sex with the opposite sex. Like Ted Haggard.
Are you saying everybody who has ever had a gay experience is gay?
what he is trying to say is that since the sister of a gay man has 1.3 kids, the gay gene lives on through her children. Something about how the gay gene was recessive in her but it might be expressed in their children, which is an even smaller chance because two heteros would be considered both to be "gay-recessive" so their chances of having a "gay-expressive" child diminish.
its a mental gymnastics cluster fuck and we have a front row seat to his delusions.
Christian Powell
No, that she has more kids which makes up for the fact that he has less.
This is actual research, maybe try reading it someday. You are just talking nonsense.
Sebastian Thomas
>everybody who has ever had a gay experience is gay? unless they were raped, then we are at least calling them bisexual. if you choose to suck a dick on thursday, but then afterwards decide not to do it, that doesnt change the fact that you put another guys dick in your mouth last thursday, does it?
Levi Wright
>Are you saying everybody who has ever had a gay experience is gay? I'm saying that it's your decision to have a gay experience, don't try to justify it by saying that your body just fell for it's desires. Also, good way to avoid the rest of the questions, faggot.
Josiah Ward
So if they were raped, they can still be straight?
Parker Young
>Hurr you can pass down gay genes to children you've adopted Holy shit you are one stupid motherfucking faggot.
Ian Gomez
So do you think all porn actors who do gay porn are gay?
Noah Russell
>yfw the guy with a mental illness tells you you're talking nonsense
Hunter Morgan
I never said that. You can certainly pass them on to surrogate kids.
Wyatt Collins
yea, cause you dont CHOOSE to get raped. YOU CHOSE to put that dick in your mouth last thursday, ergo, you are at least bisexual, assuming you have had at least 1 prior heterosexual relationship. If you never have had a heterosexual relationship, then it just makes you gay
Eli Torres
If being gay isn't a choice, does that mean being a rapist isn't a choice?
Christopher Cox
OK because many on here claim rape makes you gay.
Do you think all gay porn actors are gay?
Hudson Smith
> Okay you caught me in one lie, but everything else I say is true!
Dylan Bell
>citing a Facebook post and a religious blog to rebuke an actual academic study
Ayden Richardson
nice try faggot
Brody Powell
This is whh faggot OP says again. The only again is his repetition of this thread from last night and your based fucking reply. Anti gay threads on Sup Forums are always gay because Sup Forums is gay and so is everybody else. If you’re not a faggot you’re a woman. Done and done
Isaiah Gutierrez
You choosed to be an extreme faggot and have sex with tons of men for money, of course gay actors are gay, it's in the name. >I never said that >>Well, over 20% of gays do have kids from adoption, surrogacy, or from prior heterosexual relationships. >>>How can homosexuals pass down a gay gen if they can't reproduce? >>>What a fucking scam
You're implying that you can pass down genes to your kids via adopting, and that is wrong, you fucking retard
William Taylor
Yeah gays have kids from adoption. Doesn't mean they are biologically related. They are still their kids legally and socially.
If gay people are not allowed to marry each other, they will marry the opposite sex and have kids. Wouldn't that mean even more gay people?
Hunter Myers
Be gentle with those black pills.
Aiden Ward
He didn't study anything. He is deliberately misrepresenting other people's research on behalf of NARTH to try to justify harming gay people with forced conversion therapy.
Oliver Miller
>actors >hmm, what do you think user? They choose to do gay shit. How you identify is worthless beyond your perception of yourself. Others will perceive you how they wish. When your perception of reality meets with the perceptions of others, thats when the disillusion hits.
You are not what you say you are, you are what others believe you to be.
Gay porn "actors" may claim to be straight and just sucking dicks for the cash, but the majority of people still perceive them to be gay or bisexual.
Again, you can call yourself a unicorn but it doesnt make you one. You can call yourself a woman, but it doesnt make you one. You can call yourself a heterosexual, but it doesnt make you one.
Caleb Gutierrez
Nature vs nurture isn't a matter of battling your decisions vs genetic predisposition.
It's like claiming a child who was raised in a war zone or sexually abused chooses to have PTSD or other similiar mental illnesses. Transgender and homosexuality typically rise from sexual abuse as a mechanism to cope with a traumatic event.
Aaron Allen
Nigger you responded to the other user's question >How can gay genes be passed o if gays don't reproduce You literally answered "well adoption is one way" which does two things a) show how fucking stupid you are and b) you're admitting that homos groom and train children to be gay in the first place which is both disgusting and disproves your own position that they're "born that way."
Easton Russell
homos absolutely BTFO. when are you repenting from your sins
Hudson Hughes
It is part of a broader answer to whether gays have kids. I think the average reader can deduce I don't mean that adoption is biological reproduction, and if they can't I have since clarified that.
Caleb Powell
so you are advocating for the eradication of homosexuality via eugenics? We might have some common ground after all!
Matthew Morris
>Yeah gays have kids from adoption. Doesn't mean they are biologically related. They are still their kids legally and socially
That is fucking obvious you dense fuck, the problem is that your wording in the other post implies that genes can be passed via adopting.
>If gay people are not allowed to marry each other, they will marry the opposite sex and have kids. Wouldn't that mean even more gay people?
So you're are saying that the inability to have a social contract or a ritual from a religion is enough to make a gay act heterosexual? They are not really homosexual if a piece of paper is all it takes to stop them of having sex with their own gender
