Ok so we all know that after griffith has sex with the princess, he gets captured and tortured for about a year. My question is: Why the severity of the punishment? I don't think that griffith completly deserved what he got and how he was treated from the Midland castle. They basically dehumanized him. What do u think his official charge was? was it really imperative to cut off his tounge? does anyone else think that the whole thing was a bit harsh?
Also, what exactly did they do to him in there. I jus watched the anime so i know most of it, but the manga prolly went into better description.
Eli James
The princess's father was sexually obsessed with her, and he took his jealousy and anger out on Griffith. Do kings need any better reason than just wanting someone punished?
Lucas James
>sneaking into the bedroom of a princess and stealing her maidenhood >not literally one of the most damning crimes possible in pseudo-medieval times Plus, the king wanted that hymen for himself
Mason Jackson
In the manga it goes like this: The king was obsessed with his daughter to being his sheltered barbie doll, eventually he wanted to fuck her. When Griffith deflowers her, the king goes nuts and Griffith even calls the king out on his shit and drive the king a bit more mad.
In the anime, I first interpreted like this before I read the manga and it still works well: A princess' virginity is vital for creating new relations with other kingdoms for marriage. Griffith seems like he took too much advantage of his freshly gained position (from the season changes, possibly 2 months after) and fucking with the royal bloodline is extremely punishable in basically every royal run society in human history.
Both work. The manga one is obviously the cannon one. There's a lot that goes wrong when someone deflowers a princess of a kingdom.
Gabriel Price
>taking the virginity of the princess >the king is a crazed man in love with his daughter >why was the punishment so severe
Should be more surprised Griffith wasn't publicly beheaded.
Dylan Reed
Short Explanation:
> King wants that Princess Poon-Tang > Princess wants Griff dick > Griff takes Princess because Guts is taken away from him > King is pissed > tothedungeon.jpg >torturer is fucked up > Griff suffers, is abused, gets his tongue sliced off > all tendons are removed, so he can't even use his limbs to move > becomes skele-griff >gets saved > eclipse.webm
Anthony Scott
Just imagine having some low-born fuccboi deflower your wife's daughter.
You'd be angry too.
Ayden Green
The kind was totally obsessed and sexually overwhelmed by his daughter for looking exactly like his wife and wanted to take her virginity. So he became enraged knowing Griffith deflowered her.
Caleb Morgan
Because the king wanted to fuck his daughter and he got really mad that he was cucked by one of the most beautiful and his most effective commanders.
If I was king, I would have told my torturers to give Griffith a vagina to replace the pristine one he stole.
Alexander Jenkins
>kind
Well that's a terribly typo.
*king
Samuel Harris
>terribly
Fuck I should go to bed.
Dominic Robinson
Are you literally retarded? I mean, literally? Are you?
Henry Thompson
Me here I forgot to answer what they did the Griffith. They cut all of the tendons in his body and removed most of his muscle mass. They deformed his face, lashed him, and cut his tongue out. Basically same as the anime.
Anthony Moore
>the sex scene in the second movie
Chase Harris
berserk sucks
Ryan Bennett
All of this. You can't think about this with a modern mindset, OP. This isn't somebody banging one of Obama's daughters. If somebody in Griffith's position had pulled that shit in any medieval society in our history, they would have been either executed, or tortured then executed. You don't just bust up into the Princess' chambers, then bust a nut in the Princess, okay? Unless you're literally on track to marry her, you just don't fucking do that.
Nicholas Bailey
>removed most of his muscle mass. Not so much removed it as it atrophied as he couldn't use those muscles anymore.
Alexander Jenkins
When has fucking princesses unallowed ever ended well for any body?
Christian Wright
king should have killed him but gotta have shit writing for this stupid story
Tyler Ramirez
This.
The movies did a lot of stuff well (if you have read the manga).
Brody Robinson
Griff was on track to marry her. Just not officially. So he's kinda sneaking open his Christmas present early. It didn't help that he started taunting the delusional king after being caught. Kinda gives him even more reason to want you to suffer.
Daniel Long
No. No they didn't. Especially if you read the manga.
Bentley Sanders
The king himself even admits he probably would have been with the princess one day, and Griffith knew it too Griffith was just butthurt about his favorite toy leaving him, and decided to act out
Brandon Foster
With his boy toy walking out on him, Griff needed to prove to himself he still had control over someone. Anyone. Besides Casca. That would have been too easy.
David Reed
>u >jus >i >prolly You must be 18+ to browse Sup Forums shitstain, now fuck off.
>The king wanted to fuck his daughter first yet some faggot got her first >not dehumanisatin that faggot Get yourself a brain after killing yourself.
Bentley Morales
The king wanted to tap that shit first.
Angel Thompson
gg
Austin Howard
What were you expecting? He put his dinky in the royal hoo hoo. Thats one of the worst crimes medieval times had. Princesses virginity was used as a bartering tool to secure a nation's future back then. He should have just boned some peasants like the rest of society did.
Carson Murphy
The punishment was that harsh, so Griffith would survive. Skull Knight talks about junction points in causality, basically events that have to happen with the outcome deciding what happens next. One of those junction points is the eclipse. Think about it: Griffith _cannot_ die before the eclipse. During his and Guts' first duel, Guts is ready to kill him, but he loses that duel basically by "chance". The crimson Behelit saves his life all the time. Zodd could have killed him, but he sees the Behelit and fucks off, because he knows, Griffith cannot die. Then during the fox hunt, the Behelit literally stops a poison crossbow bolt from harming Griffith. When Wyald shows up, Zodd even rescues Griffith of his own "free will", because he is the fated owner of the crimson Behelit. When Guts and Griffith fight for the second time, Guts does not want to kill his friend, so he holds his blade and is thus able to defeat him. It's all in line with the themes of free will and "causality" in the story. A more sane decision would have been to execute Griffith right there, but something would have protected him from death. There was never any chance to actually end his life.
Jonathan Evans
Did the king really admit that? I honestly can't remember
Dylan Turner
He also nearly starved to death.
Jace Clark
>Did the king really admit that? No.
Joshua Murphy
The king wanted the flower for himself. More than enough if you ask me.
Dominic Bennett
Are you serious? It's because the king wanted to fuck the princess and was mad he got cucked Not even kidding. Did you not read?
Charles Carter
>control He clawed at himself and cried while thinking of Guts the whole time. It was an obvious rebound spiced up with some self-destructive tencies.
Christian Morales
*tendencies
Nolan Jackson
>The Femto scene in the third
Kayden Reyes
because the king was fucking nuts and wanted to fuck his daughter
Ethan Morgan
I am a biology idiot, how do tendons work? How immobile do you get with them removed? (How do you remove them?)
Nathaniel Martinez
Tendons are strings of muscles/whatever that contract and relax to pull your joints into the position you want them. Basically he couldn't use his hands or feet anymore.
Liam Scott
>berserk will never look this good again
Zachary Perez
>They deformed his face Miura forgot that real fast.
Aaron Rogers
>Butthurt about Guts leaving so he went and fucked the princess So what was the next step of his master plan?
Brayden Wilson
And you can remove them just like that?
Ryan Ross
Sacrificing his mercenary band. With 2 survivors.
Jace Ramirez
Tendons heal back extremely slowly and when they do they can be way too stiff and nt function as well as they used to. When an athlete accidentally tears a tendon they're fucked most of the time.
Nicholas Thompson
If they're cut they can be surgically reconnected, but I don't know if medicine in this setting is sophisticated enough to pull that off, especially after over a year or however long it was.
Colton Wilson
Tendons are the tough gristle cables that connect muscles to bones. Without tendons the muscles can't do anything.
Ligaments connect bone to bone. If you hear about fucked up knees or shoulders, it's because a ligament got jacked up.
Nathan Howard
While it was hot, I thought it was overly long, when you consider that a lot of other parts were desperately in need of fleshing out. For instance, Guts' departure. Instead of Casca realizing that Guts' is about to leave and then her and the crew trying to convince him to stay, they just show up at the snowy peak without any buildup. Couldn't spare one minute or two to make this scene, that also happened to highlight how important he became to Caska, but had time for an extended fucking session with the princess.
Wyatt Powell
grif had one spectacular disastrous rebound
Noah Jackson
>just like that It's pretty easy for a skilled butcher. They do it all the time on animal meat.
Robert Clark
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Juan Cox
Dat ass
The princess's ass is nice too.
Parker Butler
this.
Christian Anderson
Nobody fucks like Griffith. Rough or soft.
Cameron Hernandez
Is Griffith crying? Does he miss Guts that much?
Isaac Harris
They flayed his face. The facial features stayed mostly intact.
Austin Evans
>>Is Griffith crying? Does he miss Guts that much?
very much yes. Guts didn't realize how emotionally dependent Griffith was
Leo Davis
Yes.
Adrian Russell
To be fair, he didn't use to be. As Casca said, Guts "ruined" Griffith and gave him a huge weak point.
Mason Robinson
That's just adorable! And gay. It seems kinda gay.
Mason Reyes
Berserk newfag here. Started a few days ago, fucking love it so far. What's the watching order for the anime? I'm not sure. Someone told me to watch the episodes before the movies first?
Brayden Hughes
Read the manga you faggot.
Jason Peterson
I plan on doing both, yeah. First I'd like to watch it though because I'm lazy.
Jaxon Green
Very gay, you mean. >I tried to convince myself that Griffith wanted you just for your strength. But Griffith, so calm and composed, always gets impulsive when it comes to you! It's as if...as if...
Adrian Gonzalez
...
Tyler Nelson
It was implied.
Logan Kelly
>Sneaked into the room of a royal princess >Fuck her without the father's consent >Stole her virginity (let's not forget virginity was very important for women in the middle ages)
Honestly Griffith should have been executed and not tortured.
Ethan Wright
>You will never fuck a woman as comprehensively as Griffith
Jaxon Watson
Most civilized nations don''t let adults bang kids. Kids banging kids is okay though because they're just being idiots as opposed to exploiting an obvious power discrepancy by age.
Robert Cook
HE PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
Mason Myers
>Griffith had to make himself strong! But Griffith isn't a god...! A person's heart can't be sustained by dreams and ideals alone! You! You made Griffith weak! Local man's homosexuality ruins everything.
Charles Lewis
The literal devil's own luck.
Colton Edwards
And yet another story where everything bad could have been avoided if the protagonist had just given the villain the D.
Julian Turner
> You will never desperately do anything and everything to a woman in the vain hope it will rid your thoughts of a gruff burly man and his obscenely oversized blade. You're not fooling anyone Griffith
Lucas Cooper
>actual good old fashioned physical screentones
Man I kinda miss these
Nicholas Lewis
king wanted to rape his own daughter, but griffith got there first
Brandon King
Griffith had demonic protection so he couldn't die. His curse didn't say anything about being flayed alive however.
Besides, execution is too simple a punishment that makes people think of ordinary thieves or deserters. A special crime deserves a special pain.
Ryan Lewis
But the real question here is whether or not they raped Griffith. They must have, right? I bet the king had all his soldiers gangbang him like what happened to Tyrion's first wife in Game of Thrones.
Henry Russell
His torturer did say that they'd lived like a husband and wife.
Luis Peterson
Are we all ignoring the fact that the princess looks like the most sexually satisfied being on earth, just look at her lazily lying in bed, barely able to breathe, let alone stand up. Is Griffith that good in bed? She looks so satisfied she could die on the spot.
That would explain the whole Casca situation.
Wyatt Anderson
hang yourself tbqh famicom
Camden Walker
Well of course. Griffith was fantasizing about Guts after all.
Logan Campbell
How crazy was her pussy game?
Nolan Jones
The old guy Griffith pleased for money confirmed that Griff was absolutely fantastic in bed.
Christian Barnes
>tfw we can see Guts being raped by a nigger, but can't see Griffith take load after load from an entire legion of horny soldiers while the torturer watches and jacks off
Henry Morales
Considering he was mentally masturbating to Guts while fucking her, it makes a lot of sense.
Dylan Davis
Did you really have to link all these posts like a goddamn retard?
Daniel Morgan
Griffith knew that he would never marry the princess fast enough. The king would delay her marriage until the band was forced to move to fight the exterior forces and die to their demons.
Guts was his only chance because Guts was the only one who could assassinate the king (and take the blame), and deep down Griffith knew the previous murder he asked to Guts was too much on Guts psyche.
Butt fucking the princess in the pussy was a long shot, but could result in a marriage to keep her purity intact. Doing it alone would also prevent the king trying to find any escape goat and minimize odds of being caught.
Noah Walker
>Griffith fucks an old man for money once >old man is completely obsessed and sacrifices his army and castle just to get a chance at that sweet ass again >Griffith fucks the princess once >she turns into a fanatical servant of Griffith searches him out for years just so she can get a taste of that dick again >fucks Caska once >she orgasms so hard she instantly mindbreaks and becomes retarded
Griffith is a sexual god
Evan Cooper
I can't wait to see what BERSERK mode Gutts will do to his sweet, tight Femto boypussy. I kinda think they will mindbreak each other with pleasure
Chase Allen
Yes we have to stop messing around and address the real issue. Just look at her sleeping like a bear.
It justs annoyed me too much that no one was speaking about that.
And I'm not kidding, bears sleep exactly like that.
She looks like she ate too much delicious food and was fucked by an angel right after, the only way out being full hibernation mode to try recover.
I bet she slept for 10 days after that.
Ayden Garcia
Considering she was probably taught NOTHING about sex probably pretty bad desu senpai, she was probably just entirely submissive to griffith and let him do everything
Noah Sullivan
He didn't give a fuck about marrying the princess at that point. Rickert says he fell into one hell of a depression, stopped talking, and then simply disappeared.
Samuel Wood
Well he DID study the !karma sutra
Nathaniel Cook
>Butt fucking the princess in the pussy
Sebastian Cruz
>Butt fucking >in the pussy >escape goat
Evan Gray
fucking the princess without permission is literally high treason