Help me understand

Not being ironic. Can a Gayfag yesaids please explain how the new law in California is supposed to be a good thing for public health? Everything I read says it is because the old law is "draconian" and the new law "is inline with science"
What benefit is there to society by reducing the penalty of knowingly lying to taint a blood bank or maliciously infecting someone with HIV/Aids?
I'm trying to be open minded, but I see no good in this.

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cbc.ca/news/technology/faq-how-viruses-mutate-1.780051
cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/drug-resistant-hiv-strain-plagues-sudbury-patients-1.1235521
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who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2017/hiv-drug-resistance/en/
poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-drug-resistance
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Because LOL whoops is how faggots roll. They don't want accountability in their faggotry.

thesun.co.uk/news/4620606/hiv-positive-hairdresser-tampered-condoms-infect-grindr-sex-partners/

I get that, but I want someone to ELI5 why some say this law is a win based upon science. If I were a gay dude without HIV, I would imagine this would piss me off because it would put me at even more risk. And I see ZERO logic in decriminalizing knowingly lying to a blood bank.

it's not a good thing. there's zero reason why the law shouldn't be a felony for knowingly donating contaminated blood, HIV or something else.

The sex one is a little more gray, since HIV can be treated now, but i still dont like it. At least i'll never be poz'd i don't do that casual sex thing

My opinion is that either the politicians that drafted the bill and Jerry Brown are HIV positive and wanna have random bareback gay sex without repercussion, whoever makes HIV drugs wants more customers, or it's a Sup Forums troll law designed to infect California with as much aids as possible.

The old law was clearly homophobic and targeted the gay community with an incredibly harsh penalty for something that isn't even fatal.
People also need to stop calling HIV/AIDS a gay disease, its not. HIV/AIDS affects all kind of people from all walks of life.

it's bioterrorism and you faggots will be in ovens soon.

>3% of the population
>60% of yearly infections

>since HIV can be treated now

So someone shouldn't go to jail for infecting someone with AIDS because they had the opportunity to prevent it, even though they didn't?

"Old laws are clearly homophobic"
Explain plz. Were there different penalties for homosexuals than straights under the old law?

"Science" is just another word for "what the Jews want" in many cases.

Kys, GRIDS-faggot

It's just to give people more of a reason as to why we should gas the fags

Intentionally giving people a life threatening disease and making them dependent on medication.
You're defending this^
You're a fucking moron

>old law homophobic
>not a gay disease
Pick one

This

that's not what i meant. i still believe it should be a crime but to my knowledge the bill reduces the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor and i believe there is at least a discussion to be had for a reduction of the crime to a similar level as herpes which again to my knowledge is a misdemeanor.

Like i said i don't have casual sex, it's disgusting no matter who you are, and if you're willing to just put yourself out there on that level then maybe you deserve what you get. When it comes to blood donation i think donating contaminated blood of any kind knowingly it should be a felony, there's no doubt in my mind on that.

Time to build a wall around homofornia, gotta quarantine the fags before the gaids gets loose

what if the virus mutates and becomes untreatable again?

>what if
what if the virus mutates and everyone with it gets super powers but only if they currently have it?
what if what if what if

Sex, whatever... I'm more freaked out that they can knowingly give blood! Does blood go over state lines?

Based gays wiping out themselves and california. How is that bad?

>what if the virus mutates and everyone with it gets super powers but only if they currently have it?
super hero comic book fantasy
>what if the virus mutates and becomes untreatable again?
very plausible, happens all the time with many different diseases

fucking this. i don't get how people can ignore the clear point i've been making this whole thread

It has already mutated into HIV-DR which is untreatable. We need it to happen to the particular aggressive cuban HIV. Which causes AIDS within 2 years.

Faggot

i work in medicine, and it's not it's about as much fiction as super heroes. you're asking a virus to have evolutionary behavior of bacteria and they do not
so again what if what if what if.
talk about what is or shut up faggot

Fuck stupid California and their laws. Fuck the infected and their willingness to infect others because they want to feel normal. Fuck stupid people who defend those people because their "science" tells them "blah blah"

You want to get HIV that's on you, but I want to protect my spawn from your degenerate suicidal attitude something that is not only life threatening, but expensive to treat.

Im betting my money on that last bit. More aids for the jew pharmacist

do you not understand how "treating" a certain strain inevitably acts like a eugenics program for that strain, weeding out the ones who can't survive the treatment, and eventually isolating the ones that can, which then multiply?
you think we can pretend HIV is no big deal, allow it to spread more so that treatment is happening on a wider scale, and expect NOT to create a new strain that is resistant to the treatment?
youre playing a very dangerous game

If everyone has HIV then we are one more step to equality and progress. I guess?
Don't forget logic doesn't work with liberals.

>i work in medicine
a faggot working in medicine, it would be ironic if you werent simply LARPing, which you are
>it's about as much fiction as super heroes
showing your ignorance of biology here, youre LARPing
>you're asking a virus to have evolutionary behavior of bacteria and they do not
im not asking that at all, viruses mutate as well
here, educate yourself:
cbc.ca/news/technology/faq-how-viruses-mutate-1.780051
>so again what if what if what if.
talk about what is or shut up faggot
talk about the danger of allowing a virus with the potential to mutate beyond our control spread or shut up, faggot

California just became a sanctuary state too, how long until they are bringing African migrants by the boat load?

You think the fag gives a fuck? They don't have sex to produce spawn and they don't care about anything but themselves. They are a degenerate race of people whom have no consideration for anything but their genitals and wanting warm fuzies because they secretly know how fucked up they are inside.

>Nurse what are you doing?

>LARPing
stopped right there. i do work in med, and if your whole arguement is going to be "ahaha you really don't know what you're talking about xd" then really there's nothing i can say to you that will change your mind, i'm here for discussion of facts, not fictions

I'm not a nurse. i do have nurses though

Death, disease and rot is now progressive and tolerant. You arent some reactionary bigot are you?

hey you retarded faggot, looks like my intuition was right, see this:
thanks vikingbro

it's sad what liberals do these days.

I know for a fact that the testing done and blood central are not enough enough to guarantee HIV free blood.

That is why pharmaceutical companies working with blood plasma use virus inactivation, however you sometimes still get raw blood plasma at hospitals and blood cells are to my knowledge never virus inactivated.

This law is extremely stupid.

South Park had an episode on how HIV is no longer a big deal. Carman infects Kyle and no one cares because HIV is manageble and so no big deal.

Same suit here.

>stopped right there. i do work in med
still LARPing but i dont care, ill debate facts with a LARPing faggot anyway just in case any normies are reading this
>i'm here for discussion of facts, not fictions
then you must know that viruses mutate (not just bacteria) and the threat of HIV becoming untreatable is very real

>Drug-resistant HIV strain plagues Sudbury patients

cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/drug-resistant-hiv-strain-plagues-sudbury-patients-1.1235521

how am i supposed to believe (or care) if you work in medicine when you appear to be so ignorant of science and biology?

>Wants to talk facts
>>Viruses don't mutate
You're a fucking retard

not really, herpes is a big deal and knowingly giving to someone is malicious and should be a criminal act on some level

more so knowingly distributing it to the sick via blood bank should be a felony. i include all blood diseases, not just HIV/AIDS. It's a form of bio-terrorism and to play it off as no big deal is fucking ridiculous

archive.is/DPni0

i didn't say that at all. please address what i said or the core of what i said over being a reddit tier poster, thank you

>WHO urges action against HIV drug resistance threat

>20 JULY 2017 | GENEVA - WHO alerts countries to the increasing trend of resistance to HIV drugs detailed in a report based on national surveys conducted in several countries.

who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2017/hiv-drug-resistance/en/

Need more? I can keep posting these sources, so far you've posted fucking nothing, mr. faggot doctor

The only possible way is if you think aids will be curable soon. But it isn't curable.

No the law is nightmarish.

I don't get it either.

I don't see how slapping or even spitting is considered assault, while this is a misdemeanour when it is far more harmful.

intentionally infecting someone without their knowledge of any disease, even if it's just the common cold, should be a serious crime.

it's not even close to curable there's no way someone could think that even by looking at the facts

it's a form of bio-terrorism imo

>What is HIV drug resistance?
>In simple terms, drug resistance refers to the ability of disease-causing germs—such as bacteria and viruses—to continue multiplying despite the presence of drugs that usually kill them.

>With HIV, drug resistance is caused by changes (mutations) in the virus’s genetic structure. These mutations can lead to changes in certain proteins, most commonly enzymes, which help HIV reproduce (replicate).

>Mutations are very common in HIV. This is because HIV replicates at an extremely rapid rate and does not contain the proteins needed to correct the mistakes it makes during copying.

poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-drug-resistance

want more?

You mean when.

if you havent noticed california is the degeneracy and homosexual party. Anything that is anti american anti white anti capitalism they love. I think they need to be called the communist party since 80% of them are registered socialist democrat anyway.

Science does not say that spreading HIV is fine.

>even if it's just the common cold
Aaaand you lost me.

>Using " to quote post

I concur.

apparently it's already underway

isn't the California state government far more conservative though?

user says it is possible for a virus to mutate into something worse and you bring up bacteria evolving. Obviously viruses are different from bacteria, yet what you type implies that viruses don't change at all. Either you need to learn how to articulate your points more clearly, or you're a disingenuous faggot.

this is literally it. its not fair that some people dont get aids.

It's not good to anything, it's normalizing a disease as something good. The first signal of a decadent society is accepting things that damage your body and the society.

We should all infect ourselves to make the liberals understand we care.

he was describing bacterial evolution, i simply said it doesn't evolve like that as a virus, not that it doesn't evolve. I told him i wasn't here to discuss what if;s because this thread is about what is and what is is people being allowed to donate contaminated blood knowingly without facing proper punishment. to turn it around on me is disingenuous

so it's you VS the World Health Organization about the threat of HIV mutating into drug-resistant strains
guess which side I'm going to believe more?

>IM GOING TO POZ MY NEG HOLE FOR BERNIE! MATCH ME!!!

I have a couple of retardo "friends" on the left.
They all agreed that this was a stupid decision, but then immediately switched to bitching about the choice of words from people criticizing it.

There's no help for them, they are all beyond redemption. Can't even say that something they agree is stupid is stupid, or else they flip their shit because the criticism didn't include a billion "if"s

no. absolutely not. they call california the nanny state.

>he was describing bacterial evolution,
wrong I was describing viral evolution
>I told him i wasn't here to discuss what if;s because this thread is about what is
copout, viral evolution is a "what is" not a "what if" and extremely relevant to the topic at hand

right wing people are above liberal tactics user. we're better than those degenerates

we know this, you know this, hell everyone with even the smallest lick of common sense knows this... you know who doest? A bunch of cunts pretending to speak for white mean while in reality they do everything to get rid of them.
A bunch or radical left wing society subverting evil pieces of shit.

that's a shame. we really need to get the spics out of there sooner rather than later

The thought behind it is theoretically good; that knowingly spreading HIV is just as bad as any other serious infectious disease.
The way they went about it is backwards, though; rather than reducing the penalty for HIV, they should have increase the penalty for other diseases to be in line with HIV.

This is what we asked for. We wanted them all dead. Give them a few years and they will be

The only really fucked up part is that they allow them to donate blood... like what the fuck

This image is not accurate at all.

>t. Novartis chief infections disease lab head

Karma for this bill came quick. 707 area code is burning right now. Santa Rosa has already lost two hospitals and a bunch of rich people houses in the hills

I don't understand why leftists hate society so much to the point of bio-terrorism being okay in their heads. you have to have a genuinely fucked up view of the world to think it's okay to poz people in mass

SF bay area user here with an explanation. It's so the retards here can feel good about themselves. It's just patting themselves on the back. So progressive! Nuke this place first please, fatty Kim.

Umm...you...never...switched back your flag.

cognitive dissonance

so...ummm....yeah....XD....awkward....like.....right!!!!......lol........

Cognitive voluntary retardation due to social pressure.

You could do this anyways, so it literally doesn't matter. That shit is all principle.
If I wanted to I could get pozzed up and head down to a bloodbank and just lie on the forms and donate.
They do test the blood though.

what i said

When is there going to be a military occupation of the state of california?

The gay mafia strikes again. Seriously though who knew these faggots had so much power and influence.

>Group commonly is found doing terrible acts
>It's targeting that group
I never got how someone could think this and not hate Fags, Niggers, Spics, ect. You're literally proving that Gays are degenerate and that race matters.

never, probably

in the age of social media, it's easy to prove a liar. but it's without a doubt a lack of principle on the law maker's side here

fagonomoose

Because they're devolving and they want to drag everyone down with them so they feel accepted

...

This is why they cannot reproduce, however Hollywood is making it become such a common thing all our kids will want to feel cool and try to Faggotry. How many unnecessary straights will blur the lines to feel accepted? What cost is this to our society?
I know my kids know not to fag, but many are not taught this.

The only reason why you'd knowingly donate contaminated blood is because you want to hurt other people. Punishing that kind of behavior is absolutely normal.
I can "also just head down to a bloodbank and shoot someone in the face", doesn't mean you'd reduce the punishment on that.

I didn't think that kind of shit actually happened until I was in the US about a year ago. I actually met people who said they are straight and not at all into guys but still let themselves get fucked in the ass once to see if they might be wrong about themselves not being gay.

How the shit does that even happen?
>Hm, this does not turn me on at all, I don't think I'll get any sexual pleasure out of it.
>I'll spread my cheeks anyway though, pound away

I really hate it when people use the word "Draconian" to describe unfairly tough sentences. Sure a lot of the sentences for breaking laws made under Draco were death but they were publicly available and understood by everyone, more importantly they applied to everyone. Instead of arbitrarily being put to death by a noble for a crime you didn't really understand everyone played by the same rules and knew what they were. He was a champion of justice law and order not just a megalomaniac with a hard on for terrible punishment. Draco did nothing wrong.

So does it specifically state that the penalty for spreading HIV via sex is decriminalized to a fine or can you knowingly spread it by any means rather or not you actually have it yourself? Poz darts sound like a terrifying weapon.

>guys hiv isn't even that fatal what's the big deal?
kys yourself faggot

>it's bioterrorism
T H I S
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what the fuck. hiv itself isn't usually what kills you, it's horrific parasite and fungal infections. we're talking worms coming out of your tear ducts level shit. good luck with that califails.

I know right