So this is a meme right

So this is a meme right

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No it's an anime

More like animeme

But how dank is it? This is important.

>show becomes popular
>Sup Forums starts hating it

Every time.

it doesn`t matter if its good or bad either

No it's more like
>show is overrated
>some people on Sup Forums point that out while others blindly defend it

It happened with Erased too. That was mediocre shit, we all see that now. It was be the same with this.

Every time.

Erased was a flop in Japan.

pretty sure people were shitting on this since the beginning, its just now picking up steam since its apparently getting more popular. i remember when spring started people were saying its just the next in a long string of seasonal isekai shows, but now it seems like people have come around to liking it or the influx of summerfags with shit taste has made it more noticeable on the board. shit is everywhere right now

>Overrated

Every Show that is good/popular is overrated on Sup Forums. Sometimes even the Bad ones if there are a constantly a few threads up.

You're missing the part where people pretend to be obnoxious fanboys on purpose to get more people to hate it.

A bit, yeah. I mean it's not bad, but I think it's gotten a little inflated just because the season is so empty.

Average tier show with above average waifus
Nothing to see here

But whenever I point out its flaws, I'm met with paragraphs and paragraphs explaining why I'm wrong and why it's the greatest show ever, complex in psychological themes that matches Eva.

That's an awful lot of trying for trying to bait.

I mean sure there are those who start threads with this anime is 10/10 or this anime is aotc but the thread gets derailed by people viciously defending a rather mediocre show with very obvious flaws in characterization and writing.

>Faggot kid trying to be cool
Kid this is a masterpiece and you have shit taste. I hate summer. Those fucking kids.

Well the bait is the OPs mostly, since that's attention grabbing. There are also a lot of legitimate retard fanboys in the threads themselves.
The people starting the bait threads get lots of jibbilies from people actually agreeing with their unrealistic praise.

I like it. It's my AOTY so far

>complex to match Eva
Christ are people saying this? Evas one of those series you watch a few times and every time you notice something new or subtle to expand on the story

Re:Zero is standard anime fantasy with a resurrection gimmick that is frankly dragging the stale ass plot on longer than needed. If this pointless cycle of death keeps happening people are going to catch on to the fact that 99% is wasted filler that adds nothing to the plot/universe

It's overrated, but it doesn't mean it's bad.
You and the rest of Sup Forums would be praising this show if it didn't go mainstream and become popular.

Proves this site is full of hipsters

>Christ are people saying this?
Yes. That's the problem! Sometimes it's so serious I can't tell if it is trolling or not. And given the amount of energy and effort they put in their posts I'm inclined to think the latter (at least for some individuals).

This is on the same kind of level as SAO.

Its funny seeing Sup Forums defending Re:Zero while shitting on SAO.

Both are the same stupid shit.

>that is frankly dragging the stale ass plot on longer than needed.
B-But SUFFERING!!!1

Re:Zero > SAO

Its the most popular and best airing show right now

So its expected

It uses cg so yes

No user. I genuinely wouldn't praise this show. There have been plenty of titles that were and still are more popular and famous than this show- titles that I praise. This isn't one of them

When a show sacrifices a potentially complex narrative in favor of generic tropes, pandering, and bland writing then it's not a good show.

And that's what Re:Zero has done.

Whatever just pointing out the hypocrisy in you. You RE:Zero fags are on the same level of cancer as SAO fags.

Moderately, both series were carried on the back of their respective waifus. ReZero just has more

Proves you're part of the millennial generation where something is either absolute shit or AotY

How about it's a decent show, with a somewhat interesting plotline and nice characters that I'll still watch for Rem (inb4 who?) but its nothing earth shattering and definitely not on my top 10 or even top 20 list

I want plotfags to leave Sup Forums forever. Good shows like Amanchu or Regalia barely get any attention because everybody is focused on MUH SUFFERING of this shittuy show.

it is designated shitposting anime of the year

Re:Zero doesn't have cousins wanting to fuck MC-kun or cartoonish rapists being defeated by a dead guy's ghost.

Its better than SAO.

It is, you dip.

no instead it has a lead with a single digit IQ and a supporting cast with the character depth of a paper towel.

>Proves you're part of the millennial generation

I never fucking got this argument being used here on Sup Forums of all places

This site's average user age is around mid-twenties

"Millennials" according to most demographers are anyone born between 1981 and 2000.

Unless they are in their 40s and somehow posting on Sup Forums FUCKING EVERYONE here is a millennial

SAO's characters aren't that deep outside a fat bottomed sniper and she's just as simple as everyone else is Kirito's harem after her arc ended

Fucking millenials

There needs to be a new term for the super-millenials, people born after, say, 95.

Well I'm certainly glad we've established that both of the supporting casts have the depth of a kiddie pool.

Re:Zero is your standard LN garbage. The writing is horrendous but plebs love it anyway and I'll give you the three main reasons why.

It's full of pain and suffering which can be undone for bonus pleb points. See Clannad AS for proof.
The plot is random and has no logical continuity, which makes it unpredictable and by extention incredibly exciting and mind-blowing if you have shit taste. See Mirrai Nikki and Code Geass for proof.
And finally it's got waifus. See any anime for proof.

Bottom line rezero is recycling the decades old formula that makes all tasteless plebs cream their pants: gore and suffering + random and shocking plot + waifus you want to care for + a gimmick = unrivalled masterpiece. Elfen lied brought it to TV more than a decade ago and shit-eaters are still happily eating the same shit. One would think that no matter how much you like something you would eventually get tiered of it if you had to consume it constantly. But I guess you can always count on anime fans to prove your wishful thinking wrong.

Yes, it's a typical shounen with ass-pulls left right and center which is aimed to appeal to edgy millennials who think it's intelligent.

roricon pls leave

>show becomes popular
>everyone starts hating it
FTFY

While I like the fun show and enjoy it, it's hardly any different from SAO yet people praise this as a fucking masterpiece.

This IS SAO.
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You truly are slothful.

Well said. Re:zero is just misery porn with waifus.

I think the hate this show is getting is backlash due to, as you put it:
> people praise this as a fucking masterpiece.

Its the kind of thing teenagers and low level weebs like a lots.

Is it decent? Yeah sure but a fucking masterpiece? Now thats baiting.

I should have put that into better words but that's pretty much it.

Overrated = People like something more than I think they should because I personally don't like it

Probably the most retarded memeword in existence

Your post sure is long winded and awfully detailed with prior knowledge about a show you supposedly dislike. Something's amiss user.

You're like the morbidly obese neckbeard at the buffet who keeps complaining about the food, yet keeps stuffing his face with said food at the same time.

Why mods aren't deleting bait threads?

No, user. That's never how you should handle things. What are bait threads? When is a thread bait? At what point is something just a controversial opinion and at what point is it baiting? It's based on intent and that's very difficult to know if you aren't the original poster. If they delete things based on what they think is bait, all that does is support the status quo.

Regardless, often times bait threads are the best because they get derailed anyway and sometimes there's meaningful discussion out of it, despite the intense arguing.

It's awfully detailed with prior knowledge because, as user stated, he's seen the shit pulled by Re:Zero before in other LN trash.
>food analogy

It's a decent show, but nowhere near a masterpiece level like the plebs claim it to be. But it can't be helped, anything with deaths, time travel and pretty girls is at least a 8/10 for the average casual watcher.

Overrated = People holing a show in very high regards without being able to reasonably justify what sets it above other shows.

I'd say that definition fits rezero perfectly.

Even if what you said about me is true, it doesn't make rezero any less trashy

It's a top tier entertainment show, Sup Forums shits on because normies call it deep and meaningful. Just like with SnK, OPM, and every other popular anime ever.
Seriously just don't go to places like reddit or kotaku, and learn to distinguish whenever you watch something for it's artistic value or just purely entertainment.

>Overrated = People holing a show in very high regards without being able to reasonably justify what sets it above other shows.

But I can, and I'm pretty sure everyone here who likes the show also can

But since you used the word "reasonably justify" that will just result in the typical

>implying your opinion is valid

shitposting

problem is those normies are on Sup Forums

>But I can, and I'm pretty sure everyone here who likes the show also can
then do it

It's the best anime to come out in the last decade.

How is thread starting with "So this is a meme right" not a bait that should be deleted and OP banned?

They are, but shitposters aren't any better. Seriously you can't discuss a popular show until a few months later after everyone forgets about it.

sure, let me just copy my post from a previous thread

Just finished watching the 17 episodes in 2 days

I've enjoyed it very much. The direction and animation quality is top-notch, and the voice actors do a brilliant job, especially for Subaru. The plot started out as generic, but it got much better as it escalated. It's not an absolutely intellectual, revolutionary, mindblowing masterpiece, but it's a pretty fucking solid anime that has a good production quality behind it.

My main gripes would be

1) The CGI background mob in the cities and in a few scenes look really bad. Even a still image would be better.

2) There are a few moments where the transition between scenes is too abrubt. A good example would be when before Rem died from the curse.


The main reason why people give shit on the show as far as I can see (apart from the "hurr normies like it so it must be bad" shitposting) is because the MC

From what I understand from the plot, Subaru is supposed to be Pride. And that is pretty much a perfect summary of him. He starts off as a guy who we can relate to, but as more and more fucked up shit happens to him, the more he succumbs into an egoistical nature, and the story ackowledges this. The whole reason why he is in this situation currently is because he couldn't fucking sit down and shut up, but instead went to the palace to make a fucking scene. He became an egoistic idiot, but that is the role he currently plays. Saying stuff like "the MC is annoying/retarded" is completely natural, because it is actually true. But don't think for a second that Subaru should be a perfect copy of YOU. Yes, you would have maybe done more logical decisions in his place, but Subaru is not you, and you are not the MC.

>normies

You guys are the fucking normalfags. Seriously its hillarious seeing normalfags calling other people normies.

Fucking retards.

Even if we agree that everything you said about the show holds true, nothing in your defence suggests that rezero is anything more than an above average seasonal anime. Which would indeed make it overrated.

Define normalfag.

>Saying stuff like "the MC is annoying/retarded" is completely natural, because it is actually true. But don't think for a second that Subaru should be a perfect copy of YOU. Yes, you would have maybe done more logical decisions in his place, but Subaru is not you, and you are not the MC.

this so much. It's also important to remember that this guy's decisions become more and more retarded for a reason, he is frustrated and clearly losing sanity, after all the stress and suffering he was exposed to.

(You), also normie is fucking stupid. It's like you're ashamed of using the -fag suffix.

Subaru's character is only one gripe I have with the show. And even that has more to do with how the themes of his character were executed. He doesn't seem complex and is very one dimensional, defined by a set of flaws. He feels like some cartoony villain that would never serve as an MC. But supposedly he's supposed to develop. Development is important for the main character. However we see a lack of inner turmoil. There's not that multilayered personality that you would expect from someone who has flaws but is trying to improve. All his struggles have been the external world and how this world is filled with powerful sadistic monsters. That falls short of any meaningful character development.

There's also a lack of an organic plot. Things happen for the sake of them happening. There's no foreshadowing or build up.

Other characters are even more one-dimensional than Subaru. The candidates especially are defined by these exaggerated and unrealistic traits and flaws that come of as immature and fails to suspend my disbelief. After all, what kind of sane person would even consider these candidates to rule the kingdom. They're outright shitty people and its blatantly obvious to the supposed wise old men.

The show is filled with plot conveniences that the MC doesn't even overcome. Emilia had to be the one to accidentally eliminate Rem's suspicious nature towards Subaru by saying "he's a nice guy." Reinhardt conveniently appears and disappears because the plot demands it. That's lazy writing. Instead you could have shown how the cultists planned to attack when powerful people left or even imply that such as having an infiltrator observe the state of the kingdom (I don't know). Reinhardt's departure can easily serve as a foreshadowing that bigger threats are to come. This is how you make a good story.

Instead this is random events, fanservice, waifus, pandering, and misery porn.

It isn't good.

No. Just fucking define normie already so I can dismantle your pitiful argument, retard.

the animation and direction quality is above avarage
the voice acting is above avarage
the originality of the plot is above avarage
the soundtrack and the timing for the musical tracks is above avarage

There are weak points of it, sure. But in general the show is well above avarage

>parroting shit said in a meta thread
pathetic

I agree, something like Konosuba is your average show, Re:Zero is a solid 7/10

Let me guess you think you're not a ''normies'' because you watch anime?

Dude you're dodging the question.

Yeah no. Re Zero is a 6/10 at best. Konosuba is way better. Aqua and Kazuma are way more endearing and we'll done than any of the characters from Re Zero.

Im not even the same guy.

What is a 10/10 show for you

>comparing shows from 2 different genres

I put up with it for 10 minutes. When he started trying to use magic I shut it off.

Can't believe this turn out to be the most popular anime of the season when we had Academia and that SnK rip off or whatever its called.

I only compared the characters. One of Re Zero's flaws is that most of its characters are not every good.

>the originality of the plot is above avarage

Thanks for the laugh user. Anyway the premise tells absolutely nothing about the quality of a show. It's the execution that makes all the difference. And in the case of rezero, the supposedly very well handled superficial aspects of the show can't make up for the complete lack of anything praiseworthy being done with the characters, narrative or the themes.

Suffering is the lesser of two evils.

SAO's masturbatory wank will always be worse than re:zero

Oh then why don't you look at the context of my post.

The guy was making claims about normies while simultaneously contradicting his previous points.

I don't really think it's fair to judge a character's development in the middle of a show. He didn't even have a chance to develop, because what we saw so far is Subaru's gradual descent to madness. Which, if someone get's torn apart multiple times, and has an egoistical nature set on "winning" while accomplishing this is harder and harder, is completely realistic.

>There's no foreshadowing or build up.
This is completely false. The cursed dog was foreshadowed it you paid attention. The witch cult was foreshadowed when Rem killed Subaru. Etc.

>The candidates especially are defined by these exaggerated and unrealistic traits and flaws that come of as immature and fails to suspend my disbelief.

This is actually one of the few faults of the anime. The VN gave the candidates much more time to present themselves, therefore presenting their non one-dimensional sides more properly. There are also a lot of backstory to them, but that cannot be presented in the anime due to lack of runtime

>The show is filled with plot conveniences that the MC doesn't even overcome.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. Subaru DIDNT ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. He thinks he saved everyone and everything so far, while he did jack shit. That's why Emilia turned away from him. This is why he was called Pride. He IS Pride, a SIN.

>random events

the fuck does that even mean

Hi Digi o/

By "plot" I didn't mean the whole "guy gets into fantasy world + time rewind" aspect. What I mean by that is how the characters are built up in this setting, and how the MC reacts to the pressure.

The witch cult wasn't foreshadowed. It was just an element in Rem's backstory that we had no reason to believe it would be relevant later or when it would be relevant.

The dog was in the middle of the arc. It made sense. I liked that mystery.

The show feels disjointed: from the 1st arc to the 2nd to the 3rd.

That's what I mean by random events.

Except Subaru did do something. Without him those villager kids would be dead, and without him Emilia gets killed by the Witch Cult like the incompetent skank she is.

>Without him those villager kids would be dead

True, but also false. If you think back, what exactly did he do bestides being a chew toy? He carried out 1 kid, and accompanied Rem. He only killed 1 hound out of ~100. He could have been easily replaced by any random villager. Like the show said multiple times, he is weak and ultimately useless.

>Look how I pretend I know what I'm talking about for the solo purpose of being a contrarian
>You should watch a real master piece like EVA huehuehue

>There's no foreshadowing or build up.
I don't think that's necessarily true. Like the cultist attacks happened because Emilia got in a public setting and they hate elves. Subaru even mentions how well organized they are so they probably have spies around. I just think the story doesn't show everything that is happening in the world, you can only see so much in one live time.
>Other characters are even more one-dimensional than Subaru
I think the point of each girl is that they are suppose to represent something symbolic. maybe they have to be that way to show the symbolism more clearly?

I'm not saying that it's perfect, I just don't think your critic is spot on.

This is the new SAO.

I'm sorry, forgive my typos, I need sleep.

He let them know there was a curse. That's pretty important.

It is

This symbolism doesn't suspend my disbelief. The characters are flawed for the sake of being flawed. It's so simple and shallow. The symbolism of the candidates takes away from the characters.

If anything it was TOO blatantly obvious.

Danganronpa is literally loved by everyone who played the games

You're baiting, aren't you?

There is no VN.