L.V. - Working Theory found

1 paddock sets up arms deal
2 gets interruped "caught" by unknowing campos
3 shoots campos
4 knows he doesnt get away with it, hes highroller life is over. Death in prison.
5 decides to cause panic by shooting in the people below to flee in the chaos
6 tries to shoot his way clear (200 Rounds in the hallway)
7 realises what he has done or just his bad situation
8 shoots himself

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foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/mandalay-bay-security-guard-was-shot-six-minutes-before-las-vegas-gunman-began-shooting-police-say.html
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cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-mandalay-bay-security-guard-shot-prior-to-las-vegas-massacre-sheriff/
youtube.com/watch?v=HkOdPK0Qgv8
youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI
youtu.be/Y6QZZ-RCI0c?t=27
youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6mZ80C8qc&feature=youtu.be&t=35m48s
youtube.com/watch?v=DTW45patPA0
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Needed six minuts after campos shot. Enough to think, realise, flip, smash, load and fire.

foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/mandalay-bay-security-guard-was-shot-six-minutes-before-las-vegas-gunman-began-shooting-police-say.html

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Close - I think this Gov / Terrorist deal. Buyers had security of killing crowd if deal goes bust. Deal goes bust by Campos interfering. Paddock lights up hallway, buyers light up crowd as payback.

Buyers likely CIA backed terrorists.

I dont think the buyers were alredy there. The whole more than one shooter videos doesnt work out. Its all about acoustic reflection and direct sound and sonic booms and so on.

Buy the way paddock was drilling a wall when campos approached, doesnt look like the deal was already ongoing.

How the fuck is this new info after we were told the guard was a hero?

press conference 1-2 hours ago, the story changed, not so much of a hero after all.

Dont forget the 6 minutes goyimmmm

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I know, but how did it take a week, after there was a minute by minute story of how it went down.

how about security sets up to knock over Paddock and shit goes bad, Paddock is dead, so the create a cover story. bet Campos did it with others unknown

How about this... people called the front desk when an idiot started drilling and barricading doors shut. Security does what they would do in this situation and went to check it out. He sees security on camera and decides "let the show begin"

Stephen wasn't the shooter. Eric done told you he couldn't handle shooting a bump stock AR.

Noting the cherif having the dignity to not wear his insignia of power (uniform) in the latest press conference? They are just bad at their job.

Why break two windows? Bullet calculations, why?

>arms deal
Dude I could walk into the gun store and buy everything he had in that room.
One stop.
Legally.
In like 20 minutes.

Smash out 800lb hurricane windows

the story by police goes campos is sent up because of an open door alarm (not paddocks door), and than hears the drilling and investigates.

Arms deal theory is complete bullshit. what international terrorist group is going to meet on the 32nd floor of a hotel in one of the most visited cities to buy some shitty ass modified semi auto guns? look at any nigger or spic gang that routinely gets fully automatic weapons confiscated and tell me ISIS is interested in buying some unreliable shitty semi auto from a white guy in a hotel room. what the fuck is wrong with you retards. nothing in this story adds up, but paddock as an arms dealer is the gayest shit out there.

Doesn't security have walkies?

Also who the fuck was he selling arms to then? Why are they not found lmao? And why would the FBI want to cover up arms dealing if this whole thing has nothing to do with a cover up?

how do you know they were bullet calculations and not money calculations from the sale?

panic, adrenaline, fear it makes stupid things with people.

Check this out, breaking news in the past couple hours... says security guard was shot nearly 10 minutes before Paddock started shooting into the crowd.

cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-mandalay-bay-security-guard-shot-prior-to-las-vegas-massacre-sheriff/

Someone archive link it if you want, I'm on my phone.

That's what the investigators said. The note contents are locked in now, and the narrative can't change from that

and since the arms dealer was the givernment, they handed him everything he needed to go on a killing spree. i think he planned a killing spree though not just an arms deal.

Bullet calculations seem unuseful in these short shots. Another thing that makes no sense from a brilliant guy who gets everything comped.

maybe, but was it ever proven that the windows werent shot out, there was a hammer but padock also had a drill.

This is a great question. Read the article I just posted. It says the guard radioed in late and possibly shot himself (unless I misread it) or maybe not, it said Paddock shot at the guard before shooting the crowd.

cbsnews.com/news/jesus-campos-mandalay-bay-security-guard-shot-prior-to-las-vegas-massacre-sheriff/

tbf there are probably more people willing to use their "clean" record to buy legal guns for people who cannot buy them legally

people selling fully automatics are probably going to be more experienced, militant, and probably a fed

idk just trying to rationalize - i think he was a leftist, personally

a busted arms deals doesnt explain at all why he'd shoot into a crowd or why he tried to get a hotel overlooking labapalooza before this shooting.

Yeah - those things actually take alot of work to hammer out. But we need to keep in mind this out of shape 64 year old guy didn't eat at taco bell.

There is the probably fake story about a wittness John somebody that was visited by FBI and afterwards shot himself and his handicaped daughter. Might he have been the buyer? Old white guy.

Ask Whitey Bulger why he got away with murder while working as FBI informant for decades.

Dont know how to archive, but it was on fox as well, and seems to out never to vanish again. thx

Why did Campos take so long to call security or police? Is Campos MS-13 or Mexican Cartel connected? CIA nigger? A ghost?

giant problem with this is that he brought tools to bust out the window
Campos never entered the room - didn't even make it to the door just spooked Paddock that he was in a security outfit and headed to his room, and he started shooting

Maybe the buyer couldn´t.
- criminial record
- not citizen
- looking suspicious
- your favorite reason here

Link to latest press conference 2 hours ago:
youtube.com/watch?v=HkOdPK0Qgv8

There is something about the note. That it wasnt a note but some sort of document, doesnt confirm trajectory calculation.

Wouldnt the main point of buying directly from another person be to make it more difficult to track without a paper trail? Not that it would be smart for Paddock but the news hasnt really mentioned if serials had been filed off etc though.

They said it was his manifesto now - Personally I think it was a copy of Hillary Clinton's book - "What Happened" - either way it went from a note to a book - media screw job and FBI shell game

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And while you have them with you legaly your arms not much of a problem, as long as you dont shoot the security guard. If sold anounce them stolen. With all his homes and real estate and long time away from home easy blame.

Is there any video focused on the hotel around the time the police/swat/whoever breached his room? They cleared the area, I'm assuming for quite some distance but I still think it's possible there is footage. I wonder if there was a shootout before a suicide shot.

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He was always traveling the finest hotels, there is always some happening going on. And read the fucking first post, he paniced after he shot campos, took what was available to him to cause chaos to flee in. Not a stupid idea in that situation, though brutal, pervert and narzistic. But he called himself the biggest video poker player on earth. Quite narzistic dont you think?

Why did he have a hammer for breaking out the windows

again Paddock brought the tools to bust out the window - tape and a sledge hammer.
these are not items people just carry around for convenience
Paddock snapped, he wanted to go down as the all-time leader in murders

When does he sketch out the bullet trajectory diagram?

All these theories are retarded.

Any of you autistic fucks ever entered a casino?

a million cameras, redundant and separated security centers etc

Literally everyone going in and out would be caught on multiple systems.

And don't give some generic conspricy bullshit about the government conficating it all magically without any of the employees noticing that something is seriously wrong.

That's not how casinos work. People are paying attention to everything at all times.

are you trying to make that nigger a person? fuk off

He also had a drill, a hammer doesnt seem far fetched if he wanted to alter the wall somehow, just puting up a picture would require that, and it is a quite small hammer for a planet 800 pound window blow out. Did you see it?

The news also didnt say directly that the arms bought by paddock are the arms found. But its easy for him to have legal weapons, after the deal he say they were stolen in some of his houses, where he actually didnt stay very often.

Take a close look at the dialog staring at 07:00. It seems the detail about Jesus being shot before 10pm is only revealed after reporter presses for that. Watch the reaction of the suited guy during that.

Mr sheriff skips the part about Campos being shot pre-shooting rage, until he’s asked about it and he becomes almost enraged.

If they're saying there were no cameras on that floor, would it be reasonable that there are no cameras on other floors?

So what if the extra shooters didn't try to leave?

What if they had their own room a few floors below, and just stayed in the hotel until things died down?

He had a hammer, but it was a small short one, not what I would use to blow such windows out and with all the gear he brought up there a solid sledgehammer would not have been an issue one would think.

>people
>paying attention
Nigger have you ever worked before?

Latest press conference: there was no note, there was a document. Police not confirming trajectory calculation!

Press Conference 2 hours ago:
youtube.com/watch?v=HkOdPK0Qgv8

LVMPD stated they believe he planned to escape. Maybe this shooting was a "plan B" of sorts. It could have been a spontaneous thought, to cause chaos and flee. Maybe the shooting was his plan to escape, and he was escaping a foiled arms deal.

Would make sense to have multiple sightings of suspects, shootings, and strange vehicles. Those in the deal were there and fled, or heard of what was happening and fled. Would also explain the VIP exiting Tropicana, the private jets departing McCarran... so much fits in with this theory so far.

It was a 2 pound engineers hammer. A 64 year old with his build would have some issues breaking those windows. Why are people so worried about that, he could have fired a few rounds at it. The window in the right looks like it could have taken a round to the top.

The "Sledge Hammer" is on the left 2/3 up near the column by the curtain with the yellow grip part. A joke to plan knocking those windows out with it.

They're lying about no cameras (that is kinda strange)

Every story should at least have a hall facing camera at least. Every elevator has multiple cameras.

I've worked in a casino, and anyone can look up the basics of casino security online. There is zero chance of not being able to identify where someone is going within a casino.

>A joke to plan knocking those windows out with it.
It would work if he had a punch.

Any idea where the stairs are relative to the elevator, the room, and where the guard was?

I'm still looking for a floor plan for the 32nd floor

I don't know anything about this casinos layout.

But if there is any place a human can access that's not private it's covered by a camera.

Yes, but a pour solution if that good planed. A real sledge hammer 4 ft grip, two kilo at the front thats a solid solution for this windows. And by the way, I didnt heard it confirmed that he even proven used the hammer. First three shots Window blasters?

The staircase door was just out his room to the left. A few yards 2-4 i would asume. The elevators are straight out all the way down the spine of the hotel floorplan 100 yards maybe. You should be able to find the floorplans on google picture search.

Yes

this.
this is why the media never pushed the muh mexican hero narrative. they knew from the beginning he wasn't a hero. what else do they know something about? what narrative AREN'T they pushing?

It is said that campos himself didnt wanted the lime light, now we know why. The media likely would have put hin on air in no time. But he isnt aloud to tell anything new before the police and FBI announces it. He knew that he wasnt the hero so he ducked down, makes absolute sense. Funny that there is already a gofundme for the hero, but this way or the other, he is a victim nontheless.

Why bring the sledge hammer to break the windows when he could just shoot them?

Sorry the staircase door was to the right, from the perspective out his room.

Why have a drill and drill a wall? Put up a picture? More cameras? The hammer doesnt seem ideal for smashing windows so why asume thats its purpose? He brought the guns to sell didnt work out either.

Forensic acoustic analysis shows where 2nd shooter was:

youtube.com/watch?v=JxmEFeKy8aI

tfw taco bell is comped, and all restaurants are taco bells.

HoHo, the cavalery has arrived.

I don't buy it.
1) The arms dealer narrative, while plausible, doesn't explain him deciding to just go out and shoot up a ton of people. It doesn't actually explain the event itself whatsoever. You still have to fall back to the "lol idk, I guess he just snapped".
2) This was clearly planned out ahead of time. Not some spur-of-the-moment or "deal gone wrong" sort of thing
3) Why would an arms dealer be using/having/selling fucking bump stock meme garbage? If he were in the black market, he'd either have full-auto weapons or just use normal semi-autos without bump stock bullshit.

1 gets on Sup Forums
2 gets convinced it's happening
3 buys a lot of guns
4 carries arsenal everywhere he goes
5 long day of gambling
6 steps on a lego
7 panics and goes on shooting spree
8 as he's shooting he steps on the lego again
9 accidentally himself

See I can be a complete faggot and make up shit too. Prove anything I said wrong. The gobment is hiding the lego

thx, can you give a short rundown pleas user, its half an hour long and I should be sleeping for a long time already.

1 He shot in a anonymous mass, he couldnt even be shure if he hit, you cant kill more unpersonal, maybe per drone. And many "experts" said that the livetoll could have been much worse. He wanted probably "just" panic. He was a sick guy nevertheless.
2 To bring the guns in the room was planned out for shure.
3 He called himself the worlds best video poker player, not worlds best armsdealer. And by the way he could still have been set up/used by some Agency or other. Campos interrupting and shooting made him panic.

no lego piece on TOP of the blood

A good laught at least :) Thats needed from time to time when digging such a dark topic.

you can walk out of a massive hotel with lots of people and lots of bags and nobody will turn their heads.

Did I miss it or did realy nobody hear ever write COMPED, just serious user her?

Sheriff Told 'Don't Go There' by FBI When Asked About Paddock's Car. Either the guy to his left (FIB Rouse) or the guy behind him (Senator I believe) clearly whispers "Don't Go there" in response to pretty vague question on getaway vehicle. They don't want that shit getting looked into.

youtu.be/Y6QZZ-RCI0c?t=27
youtube.com/watch?v=Wg6mZ80C8qc&feature=youtu.be&t=35m48s

Sage fake

Guys.

Paddock was selling these guns to the Saudis upstairs, Campos was just a messenger/logistics man.

Paddock had a drill and hammer because the plan was to hide all the weapons in the walls.

The guns sit there for weeks or months, then the Saudis extract them covertly as a 'maintenance' op.

Then the Saudis have private planes that can extract the weapons overseas without inspection.

The guns ultimately end up in the hands of Arab terrorist and resistance groups in the ME, where they'll never be traced back to Paddock.

As we now know the sheriff should have said much less, than as it turned out alot was false. Again holding him back makes perfect sense to me.

I was watching James Fetzer's interview and he said some very interesting things. such as

>Why did they go through so much trouble finding the shooter when he broke the glass windows

>The glass windows are all loaded with sensors that alert security if they are broken

tfw got comped a room with three seashells

Assumptions being made ITT which have no basis:

Paddock shot the people down below
Paddock shot the security guard
Paddock was alone in the room
Paddock killed himself

Now we have to be clear.

Paddock obviously was making a sale of weaponry. Firstly, you cannot win as much money as he had from slots. It is not mathematically possible. Paddock was likely laundering money, using his cash to get comped free rooms at hotels in Vegas. Secondly, there's no explanation for the sheer amount of weaponry in his room. Even if he was an avid collector of weapons, it is very unlikely he would be able to use all the weapons or would take them on some sort of vacation.

The amount of guns in his room suggests he made a living selling weapons, or facilitating the sale of weapons. A hotel/casino is a perfect cover for this, as you can transport bags in and out of the hotel with nobody really noticing. Simply have your buyers show up with lots of well dressed people and empty bags. They can all have their "suitcase" into which they will place the purchased weaponry, and leave promptly, with nobody thinking it's weird or out of place. Just some businessmen leaving the hotel.

Hopefully this can be seen, and used to make deductions that make actual sense. There is absolutely no reason to believe Paddock was alone in the room, that he shot the people down below, that he shot the security guard, or that he killed himself. This is what has been said or deducted, but there is no proof. And it doesn't square with the arms dealing theory, which is so obvious you'd have to be retarded to believe anything else.

>2) This was clearly planned out ahead of time. Not some spur-of-the-moment or "deal gone wrong" sort of thing
Nah, he was doing some gangster shit, wiring up a room with cameras or something, and got interrupted by some nosey security guard. Dumps 2 mags in the hallway in a panic, and then falls back to where he was working. He realizes there's no way he's going to be able to get out of there, so he creates a panic by firing into the crowd. Shoots at the big fuel tank for a while trying to ignite it, then shoots into the crowd of people some more. No big plan.

He was probably planning to position the car somwhere to explode when shot but was interrupted by the security guard and forced to start early

Why would he/they need to keep firing for so long? 1 mag dump then escape would make more sense.

All evidence points to him being alone. Why should the deal already been on, if he was drilling a wall. And thats what made campos who was looking for a door alarm on another door, investigate paddocks room. Triggering him into shooting at campos, putting him in jail for the rest of his life already. When he realised that he flipped.

He was probably planning to sell the stuff in the car as well, the armsdealer part is quite likely by now. But maybe dogs in the casino? The casino might be much more interested in explosives then guns.

I agree the arms deal idea is bullshit. No arms dealer would sell bump fire weapons. It's easy as fuck to modify an AR-15 to be full auto.

Pic related. It is a lightning link. This little piece of sheet metal makes the gun a true full auto. If you don't care about breaking the law just use one of these. You will get sent to prison but who cares if you are a terrorist/cartel member.

Only law abiding citizens care about bump fire because it is legal.

youtube.com/watch?v=DTW45patPA0

Jesus Christ this is so fucking blue pilled. Please, take this to reddit.