Shaft

>this is a movie
Has Shaft mastered the art of laziness?

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People keep buying whatever they produce, even if it is just voices over CGI backgrounds (if any) and shitty stills.

You appear to be upset.

Woah can you imagine the amount of skill that took for the animators to make those hand drawn backgrounds look so realistic?

Inside the station and in the port some cg backgrounds looked good enough, in almost all other cases they looked pretty bad, with the worst offender being the house.
Strangely enough they looked good with DoF applied, they should have probably used it a bit more.

HAND DRAWN

What's lazy about this?

Looks pretty stylistic to me. Maybe if you posted a webm, I could decide.

This is so shitty

I actually really like the central bit, it's the desk/chair and the foregrounded part of the bed that look bad.

If you are shaft and you know that no matter how much money the movie makes you won't see much of it because of Aniplex, you'd be lazy as fuck too

im not surprised, this is shaft, this level of autism is expected, still hyped af, where muh good rip and subs at?

We all know SHAFT doesn't want to make anime.

SHAFT is an odd studio where they're trying to make their anime as un-anime as possible. Love it or hate it, that's what they're known for.

Absolutely disgusting. Definitely won't watch it.

What's "un-anime" about Kizumonogatari?

SHAFT IS THE BEST STUDIO

DELETE THIS

It looks good you edgy, contrarian faggots. I don't care if it's lazy if it looks good. You can easily have something that takes hundreds of man hours that looks shitty, and something that takes a weekend and looks good.

>they wasted so many years after initial announcement just to quickly make this shit in a few weeks

Shaft was always pretentious shit.

>this is a movie

Has Kyoani mastered the art of laziness?

Nah. I'm all for SHAFT usually but and don't look like something out of a high-budget movie. The latter looks like it's part of a motion scene so it might not have been noticeable but the former is completely obvious about its use of low-grade CG. Compared to what we're used to in the TV series as far as backgrounds go, it's a let-down.

Why did they make this a movie again?

Just because the animated characters stand out from the background doesn't make the background "low-grade." It's just the aesthetic they were going for - plenty of mangaka do the exact same thing.

a movie from 6 years ago

Aniplex told them to

not an excuse

I understand not liking the aesthetic, but it's silly to treat Kizu's CG as being "low budget".

>this is a book advertisement by SHAFT
youtube.com/watch?v=9fahIu3T7xw

>this is a book advertisement by KyoAni
youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q

Has SHAFT mastered the art of laziness?

That's cheap.

That's CG? Looks like a photo to me.

Shitty CGI and photographs with badly drawn characters over them is not aesthetics.

>low-grade
I wouldn't say that. The objects there look pretty well-made by typical anime CGI standards, they just clash really shittily.

The perspective is pretty fucked up, that bed looks huge compared to Araragi.

The OP looks fine, but doesn't. As he says, if they'd used some more depth-of-field or some form of filter it might have looked better.

Any kid messing with Blender for a few weeks can produce stuff like this.

D-DON'T INSULT SHAFT! SHAFT IS BASED AND CAN DO NO WRONG! MONOGATARI IS THE ONLY ANIME I'VE SEEN BUT IT'S THE BEST!

Is araragi just tiny or is that bed fuckhuge?

>The OP looks fine
It doesn't when the background is hyper realistic and then the characters are flat as fuck with no lighting or shadows, even.

Again it might look better in motion, but the objects in these scenes are lifeless plastic models with hardly any detail or effort made to blend them in to make them fit in relation to size, style, or perspective. It's jarring and distracting- not a good aesthetic choice.

I'll never know why so many people are so willing to suck SHAFT's dick. At this point, they're just a machine that pumps out Monogatari. Monogatarifags know nothing else about what SHAFT makes so they just assume SHAFT is the best since it makes nothing else. But at least Madoka was good.

>MUUH GRAFIXX
Literally Sup Forums. Get the fuck out.

The Kakushigoto PV isn't particularly inventive, nor would I say it's accurate to the spirit of the manga, but I like it a lot.

SHAFT could replace a whole episode of monogatari with a still picture of shit coming out of an asshole and shaftfags would still praise it as great direction, great cinematography, great animation, great artstyle, etc.

MODS. PLEASE DELETE THIS. PLEASE. ANTI-SHAFTFAGS ARE THE CANCER KILLING Sup Forums.

Reminds me of those old Cartoon Network commercials with the cartoon characters in live action sets

You already made this thread.

Holy shit even /3/ can do a better job.

Well, it's not a fair comparison. Kyoani is one of the best and no one would ever say Shaft's animation comes close to theirs

The way the shit is coming out of the asshole was a true directorial masterpiece, faggot.
SHAFT's second attempt at scatporn is amazing and you'd better shut your fucking mouth kiddo or you're dead. You mark my fucking words, if you talk shit about their "still frame shitting" then I'll fucking end you.

Do you mean the Gumball series?

>Kyoani is one of the best
You can't be fucking serious

>half of shaft's entire style is based around inserting non-hand-drawn, jarring images into the visuals
>suddenly it's not okay because "muh CG"

I'm no shaftfag, but goddamn, get a clue. Why do people sperg out over CG as being cheap but praise them for inserting even cheaper photographs?

What if I like both?

>your favourite series won't have a second season, while Shaft can keep doing infinite Monogatari and other high selling adaptations

It must be sad, while I'm happy as fuck of this movie and i can't wait for part 2 and 3

It was never OK, Shaftfags just like to pretend it is because maybe that way they don't have to admit that their studio is cheap as FUCK.

Dumbass

I meant the ones like these, but I guess Gumball kinda works too
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>other high selling adaptations
name three

>this is a thread

Has OP mastered the art of faggotry?

>ur dumb
Quality post.

Umh Owarimonogatari, Madokamonogatari and uh Mememonogatari

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Why is KyoAni so good? I almost feel like they try too hard.

Prove me wrong.

Oh wait you can't.

just like this one

Is this the new Kizu thread?

CUTE.

That's a fair opinion to have and I won't argue about it. My point was simply that the CG backgrounds are an intentional stylistic choice, not the result of an inadequate budget.

I want to compare them, but the lens flares in KyoAni's PV have left me blind.

>using a .gif of the sea for the sea
Truly the laziest cunts.

You can have quality stylistic Cg. Those background look very bad, like 90s bade

Does Shaft think that spamming their faces with highlights and blushes will excuse them from adding detail to literally everything else? The clothes are flat as fuck, there are no detail lines anywhere at all. How is this even close to "movie quality" other than the million filters they used?

watch out, anti-shaft fags are gonna strongly disagree

>implying KyoAni does not have the best LOOKING shows

Even a blind man could see the KyoAni one is better. That's how big the discrepancy is.

Clearly you were blind from before because there is only one cut with lens flare there and they are minimal.

>unironically being a Kyoanus fag
Kyoani is dead, m8. All they make now is battle harem trash and literal gay shit.

>people that saw it in theaters
>SHIT WAS GREAT
>people who waited to torrent
>SHIT LOOKS TERRIBLE WHERE ARE MY SUBS I AM UPSET

I can tell KyoAni's one is a million times better just from the audio.

People who saw it on theatres were already biased.

>butthurt shaftslave jealous of Kyoani animation

It's ok, maybe one day Aniplex will give them more budget and hire top animators from other studios like Yoshinari to do all the animation for them. The day every single animator working on a Shaft show are ones that don't actually work at Shaft is the day they'll have good animation.

Say what you will about Kizu's CG, but you can't deny Shaft's 2D animation in the movie is brilliant. It's way better and more stylish than anything KyoAni has ever put out. Shaft can surpass KyoAni animation quality when they try and it really shows in Kizu.

I saw it just today and it was awesome

Only a retard would watch it in a theater. The western people are just too cancerous.

you are still not disproving his point

>muh animation
What's the point of fantastic animation if it's wasted on homo swimmers and generic autistic moeblobs?

oh hey its another thread where fake kyoani and fake shaft fans "fight" eachother

truly time well spent

You should be glad they cared enough to shade anything at all. Lately they have seem to decide the thing that goes better with 90s style realistic CGI backgrounds is completely flat and color-saturated characters.

Most of it were stills and flapping mouths, and the true sakuga scenes were mostly done by freelancers. Yoshinari did the most impressive scene.

I like shaft style.

Didn't it sell much more tickets in Japan?

>but you can't deny Shaft's 2D animation in the movie is brilliant
I really can. It's jumpy as shit, it has zero detail other than the highlight-saturated faces, the models are very inconsistent, etc. The only impressive scene is when they're on fire.

>muh in-house talent
It's a stupid mentality to rely solely on in-house animators when most of the top animators in the industry are freelance. That's why KyoAni productions never reach the levels of the best animated films as their animators are not on par as the industry greats like Toshiyuki Inoue. Even then Shaft have got their own good animators in the form of Gen'ichirou Abe and Ryo Imamura who are better animators than anyone at KyoAni except maybe Kigami.

That same day somebody at Kyoani will learn to make good choreography.

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What point? He's conveniently oversimplifying his descriptions of their shows and conveniently ignore their current lineup and most of their recent shows. He's disproving his own point himself by cherry picking like that.

Never because you shit up Sup Forums you dumb crossboarder.

How is it that they've allowed the likes of DEEN to surpass them entirely?

>stupid mentality
>when KyoAni is considered by many to be a top tier company that other studios want to be

They must be doing something right when they are literally the role model for the industry.

So 6 months ago? If you ignore TSR, Munto, and Chuuni, that is.

You must be joking.