Do you like Star Trek? then you like communism

Do you like Star Trek? then you like communism.

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>class system
>people are brainwashed into continouus growrth
>president of the federation is all powerfull
>communism

Daily reminder that true communism has never been tried and that a stateless society free from the pernicious authority of oppressive Jews is inevitable.

>t. Never watched Star Trek

Do you take fiction for reality?

Then you like communism.

Star Trek society is most probably an advanced system of National Socialism. It will be nothing like communism, kiddo

Having a Government run operation is communism?

>You like the Navy, that means you like Communism.

>is inevitable
Have you ever considered that your lazy attitude to your own ideology is the reason you always fail?

Replace 'communism' with 'christianity' and you have a point then.

I have seen it all

>Do you like this sci-fi universe where resources are unlimited?
>Then you agree in reality where resources are limited their government system is best!

Not an argument.

Star Trek is fucking gay and shitty sci-fi.

tfw your utopian system only works in shitty nerd sci-fi TV shows...

*Tips Fedora*

It's based of 1930's idea of technocracy , unfortunately modern communists hijacked technocracy and turned it into advanced Communism
The 1930's version of technocracy was more compatible with fascist ideals

lol no

means of production are not concentrated to be a state property, private individuals can own and operate replicators, exploring, mining and colonization are within the avenues taken by federation citizens

yes, money as such are not in play but we are talking about post scarcity society, further more the federation fleet is a meritocratic institution rewarding excellence as such it have top notch engineers, medical personal and specialists

it is an utopic view of society but far away from communism to be honest

Why would the world become communist if ressources became unlimited? It's supposed to be the opposite.

yeah like your fake moonlanding

Did you root for Zeon? Then you like Fascism

>money as such are not in play
personal assets are in play, but money is no longer needed as food and energy became over abundant. It allowed a barter style system to take it's place

Please tell me how they are forcing anyone to work for the state.

all the same shit, onan

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youtube.com/watch?v=hdNCr1MjROU&t=3424s

Iknow it's b8 but
>Communist society
>Advancing enough for space travel of that magnitude
>Not being dirt farmers 1000s of years from now on a planetary North Korea?

Fuck Star Trel.
Gimme Dune so I can pick a loli, make that bitch grow up fast and then deep dick her hard.
Or The Vampire Hunter D Universe.
Can fuck my hot cousin or youngest sis no problem and not having to worry about mongoloid offspring.

Totally, look at all those examples of more developed and civilized societies.

I mean, Europe is just evolving to islam.

Star Trek is Utopian fantasy. Its pretty to look at but wouldn't work in reality, comrade. Star Trek is set in what we on earth call a "post scarcity society". When you can replicate anything and everything, resources lack any scarcity, making it redundant to have a capitalist economy. I'm afraid though, comrade, that we can't magic things into existence like a fantasy TV show.

Not all resources are unlimited, just food and energy . It's not a Communism, it's the original version of a technocracy . Before communists got their greasy paws on it

>True communism.
>Not Jewish.
lmao
The end goal is to literally deconstruct every single natural human preference such as hierarchy, the nuclear family, morality etc. to create a rootless and obedient mass of goy slaves. Marxism is the philosophy of "no", it is a fucking mind disease.

>b-but it wasn't real communism!

Space is for fags.

>Just energy
Energy is matter, they have computers to make things out of energy (replicaters) how is that not unlimited resources?

Star Wars is fucking gay and if you watch it you are probably a homosexual

True communism has been tried multiple times, the correct way of putting it is true communism has never succeeded.

>World where technology advances to such a degree where space travel is possible instead of everyone dying of hunger
>Communism

The Orville is better anyways

>has never been tried
Because it is impossible to achieve it.

You're not a lolbertarian, you can't say that

capitalism will always have cooler and more deadly toys.

Not an argument.

fking capitalism right?

>Doesn't know how star trek universe works

Dilithium and antimatter cannot be replicated, as well as other materials (such as latinum) cannot be replicated either.

They do not have unlimited resources, we even see/hear mining operations in some episodes.

Federation's economy doesn't even make sense the writers basically go "it just werks".

I'm sensing that OP is a fag.

No, star trek is a dystopian fantasy if you actually watch the series.
The Federation is hard core fascist,it forces planets to either take their protection or be conquered and/or enslaved by other races like the Klingon or Cardassians (Bajor is a good example, they had contact with the federation before the Cardasian occupation,also refused Federation protection)
Star Fleets main goal it to seek out new planets and new civilizations to exploit , to find new resources to take and to expand the the borders of the federation
It's one of the reasons the maquee rebelled against the federation ,and is explained in both tng and DS9
I could go one, but I doubt anyone really cares

>communism has never been tried


You know what has been tried and worked? NatSoc. It made Germany go from a poverty sithole to an economic powerhouse, able to siege war against the world.

We are not so different you and I
We both want to burn the trash

Dilithium and antimatter have extremely specialized uses, and no layman will ever need it. It's in such abundance that people who need it don't really think about it beyond "we might run out on the ship, so let's go to the starbase"

There are things, like M class planets ,dilithium and latnium,things a replicators cannot replicate
also land on earth is at a premium , Ciscos father owned a restaurant on earth that had been in his family for generations, they weren't going to give that up . Many other things also

see

Exactly my point, Marxist ideology produces such fanatics because its rules are so simple - deconstruct and hate the right, that's it. And so once those are ingrained commietards like you are unable to entertain the fact that you might be wrong.
It literally operates as a religion with doctrine that must not be questioned.

Don't be one of those "ackchyually". I mean Utopian in the sense that its an idealistic retards view of the future. The fact they go into the problems with a huge hegemonic government just shows that the writers knew it was a bullshit idea.

If it is post scarcity what are they rewarded with?

Boy history hasn't heard that one before.

Do you believe in evolution? Then you believe in capitalism.

Does anybody have any actual arguments against this? No? Looks like communism wins again.
Not an argument.

>communism has never been tried

It's fair to argue people haven't tried communism, but people have definitely tried to try communism. What needs to change in the way people try to try communism in order for them to achieve it, in your opinion?

Fuck off back to leftypol faggot

how can humanity survive the capital tumor-like parasite?

Daily reminder that commie scum gets the helicopter.

>It's in such abundance
No it's not
memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Dilithium#History

It's just that it's possible to recrystalize it, new ships need new dilithium and it has to be replaced if it's damage

>dilithium and antimatter
>extremely specialize use
That's like saying oil has extremely specialized use, everyone uses antimatter.

Kill every capitalist.
Not an argument.

Sorry to shit on your cornflakes buddy, the series doesn't hide the fact the future isn't that great when space fascists run the show

What you said isnt an argument. It was a declaration of that you think will happen. Talk us through the steps to your utopia, faggot, and we can actually argue against it. The burden of proof is on you.

>Does anybody have any actual arguments against this?
Its a failed iseology.
>B-but it wasn't REAL communism
That isn't an argument.

Do you believe in evolution? Then welcome aboard comrade

I think we are the only two trekkies here

Easiest (you)s of my life.
>tfw you just need to say not an argument and people keep giving you (you)s

Communism didn't even work on Star Trek. The federation was a utopian sham with a seedy underbelly that fucked over everyone who didn't subscribe to their ideal utopia, didn't you watch DS9?

Many communist (or attempted communist) regimes had plenty of purges - I don't see evidence that having even more purges would have helped, or how you'd go about choosing who gets to decide who's killed, so I'm not going to support this

I don't think dude even watched star trek, I think he just read about it on commie Sup Forums or something

Progress requires competition. If it worked for biology it will work for our economic system. The state is only required to keep winners from getting too powerful and losers from being killed (i.e. to ensure a constant state of imbalance so capital doesn't stop flowing).

What you view as a flaw is actually a feature.

Is it worth watching STD?

Communism is the way of the future

Progress can be achieved with cooperation too.

>conveniently forgetting the roman republic between despotism and monarchy

I didn't say it did, mongoloid.

It doesn't feel like star trek to me, They actually inject stereotypical bullshit with their races,sexual orientation and liberal beliefs. Like after 200 years people haven't grown out of sterotypes

Define utopia

A reminder that original TOS is based and anti-globalist.

SPOCK: There was the war to end tyranny. Many considered that a noble effort.
KHAN: Tyranny, sir? Or an attempt to unify humanity?
SPOCK: Unify, sir? Like a team of animals under one whip?

How do the proletariat magically not oppress anyone? I'm not even going to get into the many other ways that dialectical materialism is complete nonsense, but basically, societal progress is the result of increased productivity, it is not the driven by class conflict. Your pic is empty propaganda.

>star trek is a fiction where everybody is equal
>communism is a fiction where everybody is equal
I appreciate you're attempting to subvert thinking to favour communism, but all you're doing is turning people off Star Trek. Consider upping your game then try again.

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> all you're doing is turning people off Star Trek
OP doesn't really need to help with that, the new show is doing a damn good job of that on it's own

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Imperium Space Fascism/Nat Soc 2.0 FTW

did he dieded

He came out of it with minor burns

This is becoming a speech.

tl:dr
The Federation is the bad guy

Capitalist Star Wars vs Communist Star Trek vs Libertarian Rick and Morty.

Which is the best iconic sci fi franchise.

Actually it's socialism, plus I always liked the aliens more, especially the ferengi.

>Libertarian Rick and Morty.
That was the best trolling I seen in years

Very obviously you haven't, otherwise you'd know the president of the federation is mostly a figurehead, with Starfleet doing 95% of all negotiations, trading, security, and decision making.

Nope

youtube.com/watch?v=P4KBPaS-1PU

Good old fashy starfleet

Good thing I like Star Wars

we're not talking about the klingons, idiot

Underrated

Star Wars has no redeeming features except A New Hope being great sci-fi. Arguably greater than any individual Star Trek ep or movie. But overall..

its called science FICTION

for a reason

Very Sorelian argument.