PREVIOUS THREADS: Jesus Campos was investigating calls of gunfire and was shot in the leg by Paddock as 200 rounds flew through the door >archive.fo/3sa3A
Jesus Campos was investigating an open door 6 full minutes before the shooting began and was shot in the leg. >archive.fo/S1yWE
Paddock had an unidentified, possibly encrypted cryptic note in his hotel room >archive.fo/zEcBs
Encrypted note is really just well known trajectory calculations, easily recognized by any first year physics students >archive.fo/An8xN
>Encrypted note is really just well known trajectory calculations, Has anyone actually seen this note up close, or do we just believe what was said.
There was a point in the investigation were they did not want to say what was on the paper because they were worried it was a coded message to "others".
lol we havent seen shit. We just keep getting a changing narrative told to us by an LVMPD sheriff who is reading off a page with a suspicious looking suit standing behind him glaring at him every time he looks up from the paper
Andrew Ward
if isis had not specific their abu abdul al amriki or whatever was 64 years old, the speculation now that they were talking about campos would be off the charts
do not spend any mental energy on this. shooter was moving, recording devices were moving. shooter was using multiple weapons.
Eli Nguyen
>trajectory calculations The guy wasn't shooting mortars or artillery, it was a standard AR .223/5.56.
You use bullet drop charts. NOBODY sits there and does the calculations by hand.
>So now we read this! that he was shot 6 min before the shooting began and did not call the cops
Cops? How about ambulance or Hotel security.?
Just shot in the leg. He's going to just hang out at the end of the hallway bleeding?
Nicholas Price
it is fucking COMPLICATED to calculate bullet trajectories by hand if you include air resistance, even more so if you include wind... you need: hieght muzzle velocity bullet x-plane cross section bullet y-plane cross section bullet x-plane coefficient of drag bullet y-plane coefficient of drag mass of projectile density of fluid (for air this is 1.225 kg/m^3)
Also, these are nearly impossible to do by hand because of all the sins, cosines and tangents involved in calculating
Ethan Thompson
this cop is a idiot he says that its no big deal that the guy was shot 6 min before he did not let the public know it was only because the reporter asked about it are you fucken kidding me????
Elijah Perez
Do we have any proof of which rounds were fired from which weapons? I've only seen pics with maybe 3 rifles tops not 20 something
Jayden Rogers
Yea I don't get it. This is good info and no one commented?
Jason Williams
apparently yes, that is now the official story. not to mention after the shooting started he apparently told no-one where the shooter was, while he was sitting there bleeding and hearing gun fire really makes those almonds activate
Jack Moore
dude, 200 rounds DID NOT FLY THROUGH THAT DOOR thats horseshit.
Aiden White
This isn't an investigation - it's a cover up.
And the ONLY thing the government cares about is getting people to go away. The explanation doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't matter. They are just going to bullshit until they hope people get tired of it and go away, or if necessary are distracted by another killing.
The only people who have the ability to suppress evidence on the scale that is being done are the federal government. And the only reason to suppress the evidence, since the claim is the gunman acted alone (and the shooting was the only plot that night - very important), is because the evidence not only shows that story to be false, but implicates the people who have the power to suppress the video.
The real plot for Las Vegas was a new Israeli+Saudi 9/11. This is why the FBI immediately took over from LVMPD, and have spent the week releasing nothing while scrubbing the entire city of evidence.
Justin Cruz
next week they'll be saying it was 6 gorillion rounds and that jesus campo was an illegal jewish immigrant just trying to find work to feed his family
Jason Perez
(((YouTube))) is censoring the fuck outta this. Shills are out in force right now. They should be here shortly
John Allen
>They are just going to bullshit until they hope people get tired of it and go away, or if necessary are distracted by another killing. yup. this. Kinda like what happened with ((both)) the hillary investigations
Gabriel Allen
yep i always when im shot just hang out dont call anyone why woud i my only concern is if there a door open not a sooter come on what wrong with you guys geezz
I believe you but not sure what to search for, pics please
Ryder Lewis
>It’s the guards word against the dead brother that puts the shooting in Paddocks hands.
Carson Thompson
I tried leaving a comment. It only shows my comment and says '0 comments'
Brayden Harris
yeah real tough and we don't have any brainpower around here.... anyway... my calcs regarding how close the gun muzzle had to be to the window: How far could Paddock have been from the window? Would we have seen the gun's muzzle flash? Assume these: Ground level of the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay = 360' Stephen's height = 6' Distance to closest victim = 900' Angle from crowd to window = θ° Therefore: SIN(θ°) = 360/825 = 0.43636364 θ° = SIN-1(0.43636364) = 25.8721° Angle from M. Bay to crowd = 64.128° Assuming Paddock was 6' and looking down at a 64.128° angle toward the crowd: 6/C = SIN(25.8721°) C = 13.75' Pythagorean from here, 13.752 = 62 + b2; b = 12.372' Long rifle length = roughly 33" or 2' 9" long Therefore the distance between the end of muzzle and the window was a max of approximately 10 feet
Kayden Evans
They said they had to breech it to get inside, and also said it looked like cheese after the gunman fired 200 shots through them. Make you think what the hotelroom door is made of? It can't be expensive if you need couple of thousands of those, and these entry door is not a fire door.
Alexander Evans
fucking hell learn to google and mspaint
Lucas Jackson
this ignores air resistance which is actually a large factor in bullet trajectories. also ive seen the figure 900 yards, not 900 feet, which would make distance to closest victim 2700 feet and the necessary angle as about 6.5 degrees below the horizon
Jeremiah Adams
Encrypted note is really just well known trajectory calculations?
How do you do that when you cant see where your bullets are going?
Nathaniel Rivera
yea usually it will say comments are disabled, I wonder if youtube is holding out on the comments and essentially being a "mod"
Hudson Hernandez
any limiting factors such as this and such as the window not going all the way to floor level are limiting factors and mean he would have to be closer to the window
Hunter Cox
Here comes the trolls it him fuck you FBI fag his ear is diff fucken tard
Connor Thompson
it would have been MAYHEM in the hotel if he unloaded 200 rounds.
Sebastian Evans
my man
Logan Walker
That picture.
Fire door blown off hinges. 12 booted feet (6 SWAT?) running into narrow hallway knocking shit over. Rifle on bipod just hanging out in the hallway undisturbed perfectly framed for that camera shot.
Rifle in a location that makes no sense for the shooter to place it there. Away from windows. Away from ammo. Not a good location to shoot from in any scenario. Next to the main breech point of the room. No magazine.
Cameron Foster
I commented too, could only see my own. This is obviously being monitored or something
Ryder Price
Anything stick out in that thread? Quite a few posts to go through.
Adam Bell
I don't know about the ears, but the nose quite fucking matches. The columella is nigger tier wide ot both pics. The angle is difficult to compare the whole face though.
Oliver Young
Plz do not give this fag views. Check out his youtube channel if you need proof of his pseudo-science. There's already an infographic
Austin Gonzalez
The windows are laminated, insulated glass. It is extremely hard to break one of these windows, even with a hammer.
James Johnson
Angles? That's not how you calculate bullet drop and aiming.
Check distance on chart, and count clicks on the scope.
Oh, but some of the rifles didn't have scopes, and it appears that no two rifles had the same scope or were set up the same.
And some pricier scopes do the bullet drop on their own, just dial in the distance.
Lucas Peterson
YES! its bullshit, hey may be a conspiracy theory freak (see his other videos and visit the website in the about section) but this is good investigation.
Jack Morgan
fuck this is obviously not an agent, I'm actually srsly disappointed he looks like such a manchild
Brandon Hill
it was also not explosively breached. no scorching, no door fragments, no hundreds of bullet holes we're basically be fed a daily dose of disinofrmation by the police and media it's really worrying me
Jack Nguyen
>pic very much related.
Common counter arguments: >Why would Paddock sell guns that were registered to him? Serial numbers could be removed. There are plenty of people who want to buy a lot of guns quickly, but don't want government attention for doing so. Hence, Steven's service could have been simply to use his clean record and sell the guns at a markup. >The value of the guns in the room was not enough to constitute a large arms deal. The guns in the room were most likely samples. You get these now, the rest later, type of thing. Plus there was a car full of explosives. >Why did Steven book other hotel rooms above concerts? Steven booked lots of hotel rooms, and potentially had been doing this for a very long time. The fact that some of his other hotel rooms were also above concerts may be a coincidence. >Why would he do the deal in a hotel room? Why not? The location is perfect. Vegas hotel rooms are basically designed for shady shit. There are no cameras in the hallways on purpose, so that no data is collected about who visits who, just what floor they visit.
Challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable argument on why this isn't way more likely than the story we are being fed.
Kayden Stewart
About the youtube comments, I'm not sure but it could be that they're waiting for approval if the uploader selected that option.
I've seen it before on other videos, shows a number of comments but they aren't there. 3000 seems like a lot to be awaiting approval though.
Luis Jones
what other research is there so far? Other than watching shitty grainy video of people screaming.
William Bell
If e was an agent things would have gone smoothly. This spic fucked the whole operation up by being in the wrong place.
Ryan Peterson
sorry forgot to add, shitty video of a glass building in a city filled with flashing lights 24 hours a day. Then saying there is the flashes coming from the window, comon user
Dylan Cooper
This Campos guy actually looks like an ISIS type.
Gabriel Richardson
Bump.
I can't believe people are going to let the FBI get away with such an obvious cover-up. I realize most Americans are retarded faggots, but goddamn--are we blind deaf and brain dead retarded faggots?
Jason Robinson
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Cameron Brown
Where is his tattoo on his throat? Is the shirt covering it over?
Gavin Taylor
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Cameron White
I agree, this is bullet drop and air resistance:
Cameron James
>Where is his tattoo on his throat? Is the shirt covering it over? Just a shadow.
Stick with known facts. Or possibly attempt to slide (is that you Mr. FBI?).
Nathaniel Morales
There would be NO DOOR!
Logan Barnes
He bought a lot of those guns from 'New Frontier Armory', a local gun store in Vegas. You can't be an 'Arms Dealer' and be buying your sample stock from a mom and pop shop, that doesn't make sense. I definitely think something fishy is going on but I think that's a dead lead. There's interviews with the gun store owner i forget his name
Idk man, that was my main theory is that this dude was an insider. FBI does a lot of sting operations where they convince people to do an act of terror, and then they intervene before anything dangerous happens. I was really thinking that Campos being FBI and this being a failed sting would have explained it all. But alas, my hopes are waning after seeing this dorks face.
Well, at least two people have done interval analysis on the shot patterns, and counted total shots. This is pretty useful to know when crowd spraying occured vs burst firing at a potential target. But the new information about 9:59 shooting at security guard really screws with me cuz we have no footage of that time period, at least not that I've found. I think the best thing to do is come up with all the best theories that are plausible and figure out what key evidence will affirm or conclusively exclude those theories. The media asked a lot of questions yesterday that we've been pushing with out own theories here. I think they're looking at places like this for ideas to ask @ the press conference. I could be wrong, but it doesn't hurt to try
I hope more info comes out on him. I'm not throwing in the towel on that theory just yet
Alexander Walker
He looks Arab as much as Mexican.
Jacob Sanders
so the official narrative now says campos got shot in the leg, didnt tell anyone, 6 minutes later the shooting began, didnt tell anyone, and 20 minutes later finally radioed in and said he got shot and knew where the shooter was. sounds totally plausible
Robert Ortiz
Bro, how salty can you possibly be?
Or whoever made your pic related...
Isaiah Bennett
Nope, no slide on my part. I noticed "13" on his throat in the first pic, then nothing in the crime scene photo. Also, laminated / insulated glass is extremely difficult to break. Those are some of my observations that may or may not have been covered by now.
Why all these calculations when he is effectively aiming at a big target like a barn with many shots?
It was a spray in the general direction.
Carter Nguyen
good guys cracking down on deep state / organized crime bad guys. arrests in vegas and ny may and june. bad guys days numbered, plan big alpha event to hit back. good guys know about it. "Campos" accomplice at Paddock's room. police have shootout with Campos, prevent him from getting to car bomb. Campos dies. use Campos for cover story that he was innocent, confrontation with Paddock. story changes when obvious that event was bigger than a one man operation.
Xavier Price
no, he supposedly immediately radioed the security station within the hotel that he had been shot why is the police response tardy and such weren't allowed to be asked during the press conference. lomtardo is sticking to rehearsed press Q&A notice how he shutdown Loomer's question
Colton Ross
>Also, laminated / insulated glass is extremely difficult to break. I have been pointing this out the whole time.
The windows were not reinforced. It does not look like tempered glass either. This is WRONG, and it needs investigated as to when these inferior windows were installed.
Kayden James
alright fuck this. can someone with attached earlobes just take a pic from below with the same angle as dead paddock. i guarantee it would look like that and this thing is getting as dumb as the "13" tattoo
Leo Parker
>so the official narrative now says campos got shot in the leg, didnt tell anyone, 6 minutes later the shooting began, didnt tell anyone, and 20 minutes later finally radioed in and said he got shot and knew where the shooter was. >sounds totally plausible
The 6 mins makes sense if you think about it differently.
Campos shot in the leg, and runs and hides in a utility closet until Hotel Security starts looking for him.
Fuckwit was a chickenshit and hid, but every narrative needs a hero, so FBI is trying to create one.
Caleb Jones
Everyone watch this guy's video without ad block on and click on an ad and buy something for maximum saltiness.
>You can't be an 'Arms Dealer' and be buying your sample stock from a mom and pop shop, that doesn't make sense. Why not? >You need sample stock. >This shop sells the sample stock you need. >You buy it. Everyone has this idea that shady criminals operate entirely in the criminal underworld, and that there is no overlap in plain sight.
James Rodriguez
If he was trying to target the fuel tanks, further away, he might have needed some calculations
Aiden Sanchez
that would help to deflect media attn from the poorly handled police response and investigation
Eli Ramirez
He did hit the tanks breaking the outer shell of tanks but the fuel didn't explode.
