Reminder that Hong Kong and Macau should have been given to Taiwan

Why did they hand them over the the PRC? Are they retarded?

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Taiwain is just another one of mainland china's abbo islands, like NZ or australia.

Why would we give them to a Chinese province?

Huh
Deep insight from an Aussie as always
Really made my thinks go hmmmm

Because Taiwan is real China

you could always visit those places for proof :)

I wasn't even part of China until the Qing dynasty.

Any Communist who unironically defends the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""people's""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" republic of China deserves to be sterilized. Every single Communist party on the planet has denounced it, and for good reason. Being associated with that shithole can only ever be shameful.

Have some Fashwave

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>what are formosans

Because they wanted the cheap manufacturing power the PRC can provide, all that shit.
And Tibet wasn't until the 1950s :^)

Having visited all three, I feel an appreciation of the fact that Chinese people can be civilized if they are colonized by a superior empire.

Sadly, those areas of China that were left to the Chinese themselves are utter shit. The mainland Chinese are no better than beasts.

Before I moved to Japan, I was totally a believer in the barbarism of the "Japs" in the Sino-Japanese wars. Then I actually visited China, and I realized that those things are no better than common beasts. Fuck. Just gas everyone in mainland China and the world will be a better place.

Actually the ausfag has provided quite a bit of subtle nuance in their comment which is quite profound.

Because Taiwan is Fascist and raycis scum

Dengiism is as close to a surviving fascist system as exists on the planet today. I don't care what a bunch of purpled haired neomarxists in the west say as they get pegged by their girlfriends, and fail at life. No one will remember them in 50 years when they're drowning in the detritus of the 3rd world, and wondering why the proletariat is yelling in Arabic, and blowing things up.

What you are describing is post-cultural revolution mainlanders. For a clear example of what the average Chinese was like before the cultural revolution look no further than Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Tibet was a protectorate of the Qing, and it was always natively inhabited by Sino-Tibetans. Taiwan is an abbo island that was racially transformed. It's the least Chinese part of China historically.

Because Bong does not recognise Taiwan

When the commies took power in China, Mao told the Bongs that they'd leave HK alone if they recognised the PRC as the legit ruler of China so they did

Actually, HK and Taiwan are seriously westernized. Mainlanders are closer to pre-communism China, except they lost the element of honor and loyalty that used to be quite present and replaced it with communistic principles of self-denial.

That's what happens when you have a female prime minister.

>transfer of Macau from portugese rule to the PRC : 1999
>transfer of Hong Kong from british to PRC sovreignty : 1997
>establishment of diplomatic relations between the UK and the PRC : 1972
>establishment of diplomatic relations between Portugal and the PRC : 1979
>Tsai Ing-Wen elected into office : 2016

Because (((anglos)))

>tfw parents fled to Canada to escape from the PRC

I wouldn't have to be here if it wasn't for those subhumans. I want to live in Taiwan someday.

It's still the home of the legitimate chinese government

T H I S
PRC can go kill themselves and take the rest of their subhuman mongrel streetshitting dogeating population with them.

K U O M I N T A N G = China
PRC = The ultimate enemy of mankind and destroyer of civilizations

You are only 20 million retard. How do you plan to enforce these ridiculous territorial claims?

>implying it matters when China will cave it on itself sooner or later

You would prefer to be with Taiwan instead? Or even remain a british territory?

>implying that China now is not what Chiang wanted:A nationalist nation
Just change the red banner to the Sun and everything's done

Add an "arm" going towards the south left and is starts looking like Switzerland.

Right By Conquest. CPC won. Chiang was a shitty general. Mao was a good general. Maoism has evolved into Dengism. Liberalism has evolved into Progressivism. I prefer Dengism.

>replaced it with communistic principles of self-denial.
Ahah mainland chinks and self-denial are antonyms

Macau is rightful Portuguese clay, you fucking slope.

>Maoism has evolved into Dengism. Liberalism has evolved into Progressivism. I prefer Dengism.
Leftypol is the other way buddy

Taiwan has given up on it and has no serious claim or intention of taking back land
it is inevitable, within the next 20 years Taiwan will either rejoin China or give up the name ROC
Also the youth there are extremely emasculated. Moreso than Japan.

Giving HK up while keeping the Falklands is a prime example of why bongs dont deserve an empire.

Are you imply Progressivism isn't leftist?

>Moreso than Japan
How is that even possible? The next step would be a nation of Traps.

>t. mainlander scum that emigrated to australia

Have you ever been to mainland China?
Are you a white English teacher?

Yes and no.

It is difficult to describe but I dont necessarily mean in the girly boy sense. You have to go there and spend time among them to see what I mean. The Taiwan of today is very different to that of 30 years ago. Democracy poisoned their minds.

itt: massivr butthurts from westerners
feelsgood to ching ching

Commies aren't human. You by default are not chinese. Eat shit.

>australia
>nuanced

aww, bless!

>Chiang was a shitty general. Mao was a good general.

Not really. The Nationalists' armies were absolutely buttfucked by the end of WW2 from fighting the Japanese, meanwhile the commies basically just hid out in the countryside the entire time. When the civil war reignited the commies were able to steamroll what was left of the Chinese army with a ton of new weapons from the USSR.

This x100. Pic related

>chiang was a shitty general
Top kek. Commies would have been utterly massarced by him if it wasn't for Japs destroying him first.

No, just that preferring communism to communism lite would imply that you belong on leftypol instead of Sup Forums.

>give HK to RoC
>PRC immediately invades and takes over

Quite a masterstroke yes?

and here you are thinking the Nationalists won...if they're so victorious they wouldn't be stuck on their little island.

Think

Mussolini was a Socialist once upon a time. 20th century axes are antiquated. It's like calling someone a "whig". It retards understanding and analysis. The left is chaos. The right is order. Everything else is semantics, and A E S T H E T I C S.

REMINDER THAT YOURE A CAPITALIST FAGGOT

Neither was Manchuria.

There's a reason why Mussolini was such a failure compared to Hitler and Franco you know.

>PRC
>Not Capitalist

pick uno

>*dies in industrial accident*
Remember, all those webms and gifs in the chink hate threads come from China. Not Hongkong, not Macau, definitely not Taiwan or Singapore.

True, but Mongols and Manchu conquered China, and became constituent races of Chinese civilization despite not being Sino-Tibetan. Formosan Abbos never did.

Mussolini was a failure because he was the leader of Italy. Hitler was a Socialist too, and no, he wasn't left wing.

>Hitler was a Socialist too, and no, he wasn't left wing.
Prussian socialism is basically just Keynesianism under a different name dude.

And how would you describe Chinese Socialist Market Economics?

>became constituent races of Chinese civilization
They destroyed all traces of Chinese civilization they could get their hands upon. Entire cities and regions were obliterated in their advance.

Claiming that the Manchu became constituent races of Chinese civilization is like claiming that Turks became constituent races of Byzantine civilization.

As fucking retarded. I hope they all die in industrial accidents.

>"yes goy, taiwanese are the real chinese!!1 Surely I'm not saying this because taiwanese are my puppets who would sell chinese sovereignty to me if they regained mainland!" t. amerikike
Come on now, mongrel.

Nah fuck off, we aren't selling our sovereignty to anyone.

The RoC don't really like the US anymore after Nixon recognised the PRC

so what happened?

is there a "Manchurian civilization" today?

ah but there's a "China"

all said and done, in the end there's only

China

Why Not? Better Taiwan than mainland.

I support Taiwan, but Chiang was a westernized Protestant who reformed China according to American principles. Mainland China under Taiwanese rule would essentially evolve into Europe of the east. I personally like love this idea, but your culture is more European than Chinese at this point in history.

I don't see what's wrong with adapting certain aspects of western culture and melding it with Chinese aesthetics. After all it would be denial to say that Chinese culture is superior to western culture.

Taiwan is 100% western culture with Chinese aesthetics. There is nothing Chinese about it beyond aesthetics.

That's precisely what makes it superior to the PRC though, much like HK and Singapore.

I never said I liked modern day Taiwan, in fact that I'd argue that outside of the language and certain aspects of social behavior it's basically just western culture.

Claiming that the Manchu became constituent races of Chinese civilization is like claiming that Turks became constituent races of Byzantine civilization.

Firstly, what language to they speak in Constantinople now? What language to they speak in Anatolia? It's not Greek. All civilizations as pounded over time, broken apart, reconsolidated, then broken again. It's a cycle. The difference, and the thing that makes China unique among all of the great civilizations is that it has managed to maintain a narrative of its own essence (in the Platonic sense), amidst the never-ending creation and destruction. It many ways, China IS a socio-historical construct, but that's the point. No other civilization has managed to maintain a single narrative about itself the way China has. That's why Byzantium is no longer Byzantium, and China is still China, regardless of what race runs it. Rome ceased to exist shortly after Germanic conquest--it only managed to maintain its narrative of itself for about another 200 years, at which point is was gone. Why couldn't Rome be ruled by Germans and still be Rome? They certainly appropriated a lot from the civilization in the subsequent 1700 years.

The reasons for the differences between Chinese history and Roman history can be talked about forever, but you're trying to apply the same standard two unlike things.

But yes, taking elements of western culture is exactly why HK and SG and Taiwan are so much more advanced than China. Like I said, I would very much like to see a return to traditional Chinese aesthetics but I would disagree with reverting back to a purely Chinese culture.

>western civilization is dying
>western civilization is superior
pick one

>>western civilization is dying (because of jewish influence)
Fixed

fellow comrade reporting in

>chinks can only win a war against themselves

Western decline cannot be understood without acknowledging BOTH the Jewish, and Late Reform Christianity causes. NRx ignores the former, because the Jewish writers don't want to throw shade at themselves. Alt-Right ignores for former because they don't want to throw shade at northwest European Christians.

You are entirely correct. They've won no wars against anyone other than themselves. Perhaps 1-2 exceptions at most.

alt-right ignores the latter*

Where you live faggot

The denial here is claiming the other way around concerning we're chinese and never will be "western" and "western" folks would never say that we are indeed "western" no matter how hard we try.

Do you see now your own weakness? it's only approval you seek, pithy little approvals from any passing nation. When even the "rightful" chinese won't defend chinese culture, what good are the "rightful" chinese then?

I don't bow to those that patronize me, taiwanese. But apparently you do

it was japanese from 1895 till 1945. Republic of China only got it in 1945, and by 1949, it was all that was left of the Rep of China, mainly due to the fact that it is difficult to take when you have a shit navy which Commie China had.

>larping as chang
fuck off home 英语老师

Tainan hicktown bae bae

I'm a christian myself but I can admit that modern christianity is a disaster. Reverting back to traditional christianity is how it should be.
>The denial here is claiming the other way around concerning we're chinese and never will be "western" and "western" folks would never say that we are indeed "western" no matter how hard we try.
We're not trying to be wypipo though, we're being pragmatic about shit. It absolutely is true that feudal china was a mess for a large majority of its history and that western civ has brought nothing but advancement for our societies. I mean you living in fucking Indonesia in your fucking Kampong mudhuts might not realize this but living in cities is much nicer than sweating in the fucking sun in a shitty shoreside wooden "house".

Taipeifag here. Please save us from the mainlander tourists jesus christ

Even funnier was the "foreign heroes" tv show when I was over there last month. Cunts spent an entire hour showing a bunch of white traitors who went native there and helped uplift the commie savages by teaching them medicine and running technical schools and shit.

where is free of mainlander over there

want to visit but don't want to hear or see those peasants desu

Anywhere but Taipei. This place is filled with them every single fucking day.

Going to taiwan or China does not matter, after all both countries are part of greater sinic civilization.

Nah bruh, China is commieland. Taiwan, Singapore, HK and Macau are the real Chinese territory.

On another note, please have LHL shot for me so that i don't have to see his neoliberal fucking face and contemplate suicide when I emigrate back next year. Thanks.

>Taiwan
Macau produces more money than Las Vegas and everybody there is employed in gambling. It works because China supervises it, while in Las Vegas you get shot.

USA had 196.6 police people per 100,000 people in 2014 according to UN crime data.
Macao had 1,115.9 police people per 100,000 people in 2014 according to UN crime data.

Macao was under Portugal before so i don't know where you get the idea they should be under Taiwan.

yea fuck neo liberalism, this is cancer for Chinese civilization. We need to anchor our civilization in confucian tradition not vulgar materialism.

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I'm an expat so idgaf

Chris Patton is right to say the pro-independence crowd are deluding themselves though. The ONLY way that works is if you shame the bigger power into letting you go (usually after violence), they don't realise that the CCP literally do not give a fuck what anyone thinks of them

Don't think there'd be any benefit for HK to join Taiwan either. You see Taiwanese flags flown by pro-Occupy people here sometimes, but I don't think there's any serious mandate for it.

Basically HK will continue to become more and more Chinese as time goes on, because the PRC will soft-colonise it and control its government indirectly. Eventually Shanghai and Shenzhen will eclipse it, but not for a few decades I reckon

>Singapore
>Chinese territory

They are cucked right now with some progressive idea finally seeping onto the island. They are planning to elect a Malay(or Indian?) Chancellor to fill in the diversity quota.

You mistaken me, it's not the western influence I cry about but rather, the thinking that it matters.

It doesn't, there's no cheat code in life.

no easy way, no shortcut.

Everything requires sacrifices, and the belief in just adopting certain cultures and they will make things better are just pure bullshit.

Your very blindness to this fills me with confidence that Taiwan will never be great or even just respected, a pat on the back the best you can get with that kind of attitude.

Yes, why else do you think I just asked someone to help me dispose of that fucking faggot Lee Hsien Long? A fucking disgrace to his familyline is what he is.

The president is a figure head, no real power. I support his decision. You have to give the mats something. Singapore in all its policies from migration to the lack of affrimative action is pro Chinese