Are american nations actually a thing

or a meme? what do u think pol?

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also which one are you
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explanation
theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-eleven-nations-theory/

your map is shit. Why does Appalachia extend out west? Why would the Dakotas not be fully with Minnesota and Wisconsin even though they have more culturally in common with them. Where is Cascadia?

I don't want to be ruled over by cuckfederates.

Texas is Texas faggot

This map is a Lefties wet dream. It's going to break down to urban vs rural

not my map new friend, and here's the explanation

there's a literal book about it

this isnt a balkanization map, its a cultural map, maybe ethnic somewhat

>TIDEWATER. Built by the younger sons of southern English gentry in the Chesapeake country and neighboring sections of Delaware and North Carolina, Tidewater was meant to reproduce the semifeudal society of the countryside they’d left behind. Standing in for the peasantry were indentured servants and, later, slaves. Tidewater places a high value on respect for authority and tradition, and very little on equality or public participation in politics. It was the most powerful of the American nations in the eighteenth century, but today it is in decline, partly because it was cut off from westward expansion by its boisterous Appalachian neighbors and, more recently, because it has been eaten away by the expanding federal halos around D.C. and Norfolk.

>GREATER APPALACHIA. Founded in the early eighteenth century by wave upon wave of settlers from the war-ravaged borderlands of Northern Ireland, northern England, and the Scottish lowlands, Appalachia has been lampooned by writers and screenwriters as the home of hillbillies and rednecks. It transplanted a culture formed in a state of near constant danger and upheaval, characterized by a warrior ethic and a commitment to personal sovereignty and individual liberty. Intensely suspicious of lowland aristocrats and Yankee social engineers alike, Greater Appalachia has shifted alliances depending on who appeared to be the greatest threat to their freedom. It was with the Union in the Civil War. Since Reconstruction, and especially since the upheavals of the 1960s, it has joined with Deep South to counter federal overrides of local preference.

>are american nations actually a thing
Yes, particularly the Tidewater Nation, the most powerful in the country.

>implying you're not already

It's a joke about what types of settlers each region had.

all of them here

pic related better map

emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/features/up-in-arms.html

>YANKEEDOM. Founded on the shores of Massachusetts Bay by radical Calvinists as a new Zion, Yankeedom has, since the outset, put great emphasis on perfecting earthly civilization through social engineering, denial of self for the common good, and assimilation of outsiders. It has prized education, intellectual achievement, communal empowerment, and broad citizen participation in politics and government, the latter seen as the public’s shield against the machinations of grasping aristocrats and other would-be tyrants. Since the early Puritans, it has been more comfortable with government regulation and public-sector social projects than many of the other nations, who regard the Yankee utopian streak with trepidation.

>NEW NETHERLAND. Established by the Dutch at a time when the Netherlands was the most sophisticated society in the Western world, New Netherland has always been a global commercial culture—materialistic, with a profound tolerance for ethnic and religious diversity and an unflinching commitment to the freedom of inquiry and conscience. Like seventeenth-century Amsterdam, it emerged as a center of publishing, trade, and finance, a magnet for immigrants, and a refuge for those persecuted by other regional cultures, from Sephardim in the seventeenth century to gays, feminists, and bohemians in the early twentieth. Unconcerned with great moral questions, it nonetheless has found itself in alliance with Yankeedom to defend public institutions and reject evangelical prescriptions for individual behavior.

>THE MIDLANDS. America’s great swing region was founded by English Quakers, who believed in humans’ inherent goodness and welcomed people of many nations and creeds to their utopian colonies like Pennsylvania on the shores of Delaware Bay. Pluralistic and organized around the middle class, the Midlands spawned the culture of Middle America and the Heartland, where ethnic and ideological purity have never been a priority, government has been seen as an unwelcome intrusion, and political opinion has been moderate. An ethnic mosaic from the start—it had a German, rather than British, majority at the time of the Revolution—it shares the Yankee belief that society should be organized to benefit ordinary people, though it rejects top-down government intervention

>DEEP SOUTH. Established by English slave lords from Barbados, Deep South was meant as a West Indies–style slave society. This nation offered a version of classical Republicanism modeled on the slave states of the ancient world, where democracy was the privilege of the few and enslavement the natural lot of the many. Its caste systems smashed by outside intervention, it continues to fight against expanded federal powers, taxes on capital and the wealthy, and environmental, labor, and consumer regulations

>>EL NORTE. The oldest of the American nations, El Norte consists of the borderlands of the Spanish American empire, which were so far from the seats of power in Mexico City and Madrid that they evolved their own characteristics. Most Americans are aware of El Norte as a place apart, where Hispanic language, culture, and societal norms dominate. But few realize that among Mexicans, norteños have a reputation for being exceptionally independent, self-sufficient, adaptable, and focused on work. Long a hotbed of democratic reform and revolutionary settlement, the region encompasses parts of Mexico that have tried to secede in order to form independent buffer states between their mother country and the United States

>THE LEFT COAST. A Chile-shaped nation wedged between the Pacific Ocean and the Cascade and Coast mountains, the Left Coast was originally colonized by two groups: New Englanders (merchants, missionaries, and woodsmen who arrived by sea and dominated the towns) and Appalachian midwesterners (farmers, prospectors, and fur traders who generally arrived by wagon and controlled the countryside). Yankee missionaries tried to make it a “New England on the Pacific,” but were only partially successful. Left Coast culture is a hybrid of Yankee utopianism and Appalachian self-expression and exploration—traits recognizable in its cultural production, from the Summer of Love to the iPad. The staunchest ally of Yankeedom, it clashes with Far Western sections in the interior of its home states.

>THE FAR WEST. The other “second-generation” nation, the Far West occupies the one part of the continent shaped more by environmental factors than ethnographic ones. High, dry, and remote, the Far West stopped migrating easterners in their tracks, and most of it could be made habitable only with the deployment of vast industrial resources: railroads, heavy mining equipment, ore smelters, dams, and irrigation systems. As a result, settlement was largely directed by corporations headquartered in distant New York, Boston, Chicago, or San Francisco, or by the federal government, which controlled much of the land. The Far West’s people are often resentful of their dependent status, feeling that they have been exploited as an internal colony for the benefit of the seaboard nations. Their senators led the fight against trusts in the mid-twentieth century. Of late, Far Westerners have focused their anger on the federal government, rather than their corporate masters.

>NEW FRANCE. Occupying the New Orleans area and southeastern Canada, New France blends the folkways of ancien régime northern French peasantry with the traditions and values of the aboriginal people they encountered in northeastern North America. After a long history of imperial oppression, its people have emerged as down-to-earth, egalitarian, and consensus driven, among the most liberal on the continent, with unusually tolerant attitudes toward gays and people of all races and a ready acceptance of government involvement in the economy. The New French influence is manifest in Canada, where multiculturalism and negotiated consensus are treasured.

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YOUR DUMB ASS MAP IS COMPLETELY WRONG SAND NIGGER!

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>FIRST NATION. First Nation is populated by native American groups that generally never gave up their land by treaty and have largely retained cultural practices and knowledge that allow them to survive in this hostile region on their own terms. The nation is now reclaiming its sovereignty, having won considerable autonomy in Alaska and Nunavut and a self-governing nation state in Greenland that stands on the threshold of full independence. Its territory is huge—far larger than the continental United States—but its population is less than 300,000, most of whom live in Canada.

here's the explanations

so, is this real or a meme

>SE Alaska
>Left coast

nice way to spark a riot senpai

first nation dies of starvation.
the far west and left coast are godlike
el norte is pretty fucking good
newfoundland and new france are irrrelevant
everything else will do ok.

is all injuns in there. And Juneau, a leftist shithole

WOndering what the fucking Okie Panhandle has to do with Toronto and Baltimore

FUCKING THIS SAD
BUMPING YOUR OWN THREad with quotes from the article. COMPLETE FAGGET DETECTED. MOHAMMED IS A COCK SUCKING NIGGER FUCK MOHAMMED

>New France
More like "New Africa"

You didn't post the tidewater one, and considering we founded the nation through Jamestown and Roanoke (RIP) , we are the most important.

why this mad? are you in el norte?
is there even a difference, nowadays?

Just realized you posted an article. Yes, many of these nations came from different european countries, societies, and socio-economic groups.

first one

do you think they still help to explain different cultural opinions and politics in the US?

I was thinking maybe the problem with national parties is that they try to sell policies that appeal more to one region than the other, and that maybe the GOP would be better being more than one party, for ex, libertarian in one place, traditionalist in another, law-and-order in another, etc. It'd be far far worse to govern the federal country, but hopefully it'd be a incentive to go back to states' rights

at least im not in the deep south

the down side how ever is that im associated with those french cowards

> Michigan
> Yankee

you havin a giggle m8?

Alt-Hype's vidya on this map...

youtu.be/mGnluyj-IQM

for that matter Wisconsin and northern Illinois as well?

Why are all these balkan usa maps made by absolute drooling retards?

basically

Yankeedom: Big government utopians; founded by radical puritans.
New Netherland: Libertine commercialists; founded by the dutch.
The Midlands: Anti-government moderates, founded by quakers.
Tidewater: Pro-authority traditionalists; founded by the youngest sons of english gentry.
Greater Appalachia: Freedom-loving, localist hillbilies; founded in the XIXth century by settlers from war-ravaged borderlands of Northern Ireland, Northern England and the Scottish lowlands.
Deep South: Localist, anti-federal government, stratified, classical republicans; founded by english slave lords from Barbados.
El Norte: Independent, self-sufficient hard-workers with a tendency to be revolutionaries; founded by hispanics.
Left Coast: Yankee utopianism+appalachian self-exression and exploration; founded by New Englanders and appalachian midwesterners.
Far West: Dependent, anti-foreign influence people used to harsh conditions; founded by migrating easterners.
New France: Down-to-earth, egalitarian, consensus-driven big goverment liberals; founded by french people.
First Nation: Native groups, founded by natives

There are multiple "nations" of a sort in America, but they're not the ones he came up with because he relied too much on politics, which shift through a persons life, while your nationality always stays the same.

is this some e-celeb im not familiar with?

give us an outline of what you think would ve accurate

Ethnostate for Southwesterners of Indian and Spanish descent (NO FUCKING MEXICANS/CENTRAL AMERICANS TROLLS) in Northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado.

I could care less about everyone else.

All Pre-18th century colonies and their regions deserve nation status.

I suppose? "e-celeb" seems a bit strong

The first thing to do would be to split along racial lines, then things like dialect, religion, and historical regions (e.g, Texas, New England). Politics should not be a factor at all.

Will watch

But politics are an expression of culture. If a pattern holds for centuries there's likely a good reason for it

His newer stuff is best, Older is worse

>centuries
The entire country is less than 250 years old.

>Colorado gets it's own country
only west slope people would want this, front range faggots wouldn't.
>Montana and Idaho become "new Europe"
what

I think "New Europe" is his name for the Northwest Front, separate from the more commie western Cascadia. It's spergy, but I get where he's coming from.

5 centuries from colonization, 2 from independence

And the geopolitics is total shit. Most of these would be unviable and indefensible

>5 centuries from colonization
Only if you're a beaner spic shitskin. Four for whites. Can you really pin down any political trend that old without mental gymnastics? Honestly, just applying some common sense you can see why defining a nation by politics is nonsensical. I was born in the Seattle area as were my parents. I have lived here my whole life. When I was younger I was a liberal, but now I am not. Did my nationality change and now I have to move east?

Politics is not just immediate ideology, aand moving from place to place is part of history. Will you deny that new england was always more utopian and government-loving since the first days? The way this trait is expressed changes over time, but the trait remains. The way people think about federal vs state power also varies from place to place in a generally consistent way, over time. Only a historianlet would think centuries of different colonizations and lifestyles has no imprint on the different cultures and ways of life of different people in different cultures, and that these would have no reflection on their politics.
And you being a special snowflake is irrelevant to the averages of each region and people. There are mexican ancapistaners, but mexican culture is still generally more communitarian, which reflects in illibertarian politics.

Look at Spain for ex, where carlist regions tend to be precisely the regions were nationalist movements are stronger today, or any other country where you can see some consistency in geographical politics springing from cultural differencea.

Learn from Breitbart

Politics is downstream from culture. It can be an indicator, but is not really that meaningful, especially when compared to things like language or dress.
>Learn from Breitbart
pic related

Nice
pressherald.com/2017/01/06/the-american-nations-in-the-2016-presidential-election/