What does being NEET have to do with his failures? He's failing because he's completely out of his element and in situations (and puts himself in situations) where he bites off more than he can chew. He wants to be a hero in some fantasy world, an unrealistic aim for anyone; it's not like a normal would be somersaulting through everything. He's also kind of stupid.
Is this just self-pity time?
Ssssocial commentary.
You're right, and that's it, basically.
You are correct. Even the author and MC himself admitted it. Your point?
Your you.
He's a NEET.
I'd say he was out of his element even in is own world.
The thing is he isn't even a neet, nothing about his character represents any of the qualities associated with a neet, the writers simple claim he is, but fail to actually characterize him in that way at all.
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of this anime for the reasons you stated and many more. I feel like most people here would, after discovering that they're completely normal except for their one single power, "return by death", they'd spend time immediately trying to figure out how to abuse it in this world of overpowered assholes around every corner. Personally, once getting to the mansion, and finding the magic library place, I'd immediately talk to Beatrice and try to learn if there was any sort of spell I could use to immediately suicide myself quickly and painlessly. I'd use my "any wish granted" from Roswaal to basically just study magic shit in the library until I at LEAST figured out a method where I could consistently kill myself quickly and painlessly whenever I needed to. Maybe I can't find a spell but I can make something similar to a cyanide tooth or something.
I mean even after dying a few times, why wouldn't your first idea for any normal person to sit for a while and think "man, dying really fucking sucks. It's torture. And I know I can never actually die, I'll always keep coming back. If nothing else, I really need to find a way to avoid the pain of death which seems to seek me out constantly". Who is just like "oh yeah no big deal I'm just going to ignore the ONE SINGLE POWER I HAVE IN THIS LAND OF OVERPOWERED ASSHOLES AND TRY TO DO CRAZY HEROIC SHIT AS A NORMIE"???
It's just become a purely schadenfreude anime at this point imo. If everything continues to be super shitty and depressing by the end of the first season I'll probably drop it and not come back for S2.
>any of the qualities
Do you know anything about his previous life?
Most of the time self admitted NEETs appear in anime it's because the writers are too shitty to write good characters. Digibro has a good video on it, talking about GATE
More like what does being NEET have to do with anything at all? Why did the author make him a otaku-ass anime-referencing NEET? Why can't he be a normal lazy shmuck instead of very funny self-aware anime man.
He's a high level street brawler, a NEET and reads trashy isekai LNs.
>hey beatrice, can you teach me a spell on how to kill myself
Really?
If he was shy, introvert I would believe that he's a neet, but he playing with the kids, "Victory!", and Emilia-tan, makes me think that he's completely socialy retarded, not a neet
So that Sup Forums can see themselves on him and how they'll fail horribly when they're in his shoes.
NEET =/= Otaku
He just wasn't doing anything with his life.
>NEET
>Exercises all the time
He's not the NEET we deserve, but he's the NEET we need right now.
>The thing is he isn't even a neet, nothing about his character represents any of the qualities associated with a neet
Anyone can be a neet. You're confusing it for hikikomoris.
Because writers and audience are nerds and want to relate.
This
The grass is always greener on the other side
He acts like he belongs in the Sakuracon 2009 commercial.
so is this a meme show or what?
But if he hadn't been a NEET (or had the type of personality or upbringing or whatever the fuck history to become a NEET in the first place) he probably would have had some real-world experiences in Japan/our world that would have wisened him up a bit so he wouldn't have acted like such a fucking autistic manchild.
You don't even know what NEET means do you?
Not in
Education
Employment
or Training
Any qualities you're associating are purely from the media you've already been biased by. Anyone who loses their job and isn't in school or some other job training at the same time is a NEET immediately.
>If he was shy, introvert I would believe that he's a neet
You don't know what a NEET is then.
He is an otaku though. Haven't you paid any attention to his annoying anime references or 2ch lingo?
Can't you see? It's precisely because he's a neet that he is "worthless" and keeps on getting killed by weapon prodigies, magic users and demons of every kind.
>Here's what *I* would do!
No one cares. This isn't an anime about you.
He stupid, so is the author for writing this garbage, and so are we all for watching it.
But Re:zerofags keep claiming this is the anti-self-insert anime and that the author hates otaku.
At least in this show being a NEET actually matters to the main character and affects his choices.
I never finished GATE, but I guess being an otaku was just for silly humor? I thought he'd use that knowledge to help out the fantasy world/characters in some way.
On a side note, Outbreak Company was interesting.
>Digibro
Just stop.
No Game No Life is a pretty solid NEET anime.
It quite obvious that the author clearly dislikes his protagonist.
No Game No Life is also pretty solid trash.
Why don't you tell subaru that?
I mean, his growing despair centres around how he was before isekai. He was useless in the old world and he's being completely fucking destroyed over and over again in this one.
Being a *bit* more subtle might help, wouldn't you think? Like idk, trying to learn lethal spells might be a good start, then learning how to use said spell(s) on yourself. Maybe there are poisons or curses you could use, or scrolls or some shit. Generally speaking you could just get her to point you in the right direction and then you do the real research yourself.
Main point being, I'd think it would be common sense that if you're transported to some magical world and you find out you're grossly underpowered EXCEPT for one specific power you get, wouldn't you try to figure out how to abuse that one power as much as possible? Seems obvious to me, idk. Especially since death is painful as fuck, which this anime makes abundantly clear. Hell even if you don't die you can still get tortured/beat-the-fuck-up, which is reason enough to figure out a way to escape those situations with your return by death power.
On the other hand I probably wouldn't give so much of a shit about Emilia (assuming I actually could do this and wasn't being manipulated somehow into giving a shit), I'd groundhog day the shit out of the Roswaal "any wish you want" day and use that to learn as much as I could in comfort. Then probably make my final wish to get a bunch of money or something so I could leave and have my own place somewhere far away from all the bullshit going down.
My main problem with the anime currently is that this all seems obvious and the MC is doing the exact fucking opposite. It's infuriating especially when he's in such extreme pain and agony every goddamn episode, it's getting to ridiculous levels now.
How so? What do you think is good, then, and why?
Subaru has no control over his autosaves.
Ever killed a bunch of NPCs in a game and then had it autosave?
The probability of having an autosave trigger right before something really nasty goes up the more he abuses the power.
I never watched GATE. The video isn't just about GATE, it's about recognising terrible anime without wasting your time.
Some of his videos are alright, but I agree with you for the mos part
No it isn't. NGNL was just entertaining enough to not drop, but it was pretty hot trash
Does his body actually need to practice his magic to use it or is it all in his head? I like the idea that he has a dark aspect but can only make a fucking smokescreen with it.
Basically what I'm asking is if he dies after learning to control magic better can he still use it before he learned it or would his body not know how?
>What does being NEET have to do with his failures?
NEET is shorthand for unemployed (or not in full time employment) and uneducated, in japan this carries a social stigma which implies that this person is himself "no good" or "trash"
Basically Japanese society which expects a normal well adjusted and intelligent person to enslave themselves for 60 hours a week of work (40 paid) to a corporation after years of grueling schooling. The type of person who can survive in this atmosphere is someone who has a "strong" mind, who is well "educated" and well "adjusted" (socially).
when you say you're a NEET in japan you're implying you're none of those things. What he's basically saying (to translate and localize into american slang) is he's trailer-trash who dropped out of highschool. Basically he's saying he's a welfare baby, who's living on foodstamps.
->this post is about japanese social views and morals, it is not about my own view of neets or a commentary about their lifestyle
>i am a neet because I am scared of people other than my imouto that has no character other than lusting for my dick.
>but whenever the plot demands I am the most charismatic person in both worlds and hold speeches in front of entire nations.
And a lot of other trash, from plot armor to the other girls.
>it's about recognising terrible anime without wasting your time
I think you'd recognize a terrible show from watching the first or second episode. Not from seeing a character or the synopsis. Any shitty anime trope can be excused as long as the show itself is good.
His gate is broken. That's basically a 'you can't use magic fagget'.
You have no money and no connections so how the fuck would you be able to learn spells you faggot?
>Would give a shit about Emilia
Oh ya not give a shit about a hot elf girl who is very nice to you and becomes your friend. Right.
>Groundhog day the shit out of Roswaal
This fucking idiot. If you asked for a bunch of money for Roswaal you would be disliked by everyone and Emilia wouldn't have a very high value of yourself. Also if you have a bunch of money and went somehwere that doesn't solve anything. You have no skills and so eventually that money will dry up and then what?
Another moron.
Because that would be a smart thing to do which contradict his character? Which is the one thing that distinguish this series from the others and why it's so popular. It's different and haven't been seen before.
There're so many series with smart and OP MC just drop this and move on.
>Shows with retarded MCs
>haven't been seen before
>dumb MCs haven't been done before
Ah, I thought they were trying to heal it so he could eventually learn how to
Samefag
Make Satella happy
Samefag.
What would having your heart caressed even feel like?
I think colloquially, in Japan at least, you tend to make a distinction between just unemployed (looking for a job) and NEET (content with being unemployed, likely not looking for a job). The latter tends to indicate a sense of resignation and lack of ambition.
Example?
>Stupid
>Weak
Pick one. Subaru is both.
Bags of salty coins.
Fate Stay Night 2006
>any shitty anime trope can be excused as long as the show itself is good
That's basically the premise of the video user. The wasting your time part is more about not watching a huge of amount of the anime, not just the first episode or two. Personally I didn't watch GATE because the premise sounded dicey, which combined with it being a LN meant it was 99% going to be garbage
There is a genre called harem, it's full of dumb useless MCs who are surrounded by superstronk girls.
Since we know nothing about his previous life, it's a bit strange why the author would even tell us he's a NEET except to appeal to demographics.
Do they ever explain why his past is never thought about, talked about or referenced in any way?
Weak how?
Does the Witch's scent go away or weaken after a long enough time of nothing happen? Beatrice said a while ago that he reeked of it, and he has only died more since then.
I'd expect that most people that can detect that thing would be super suspicious of him like how Roswaal was when he first arrived.
If it's so bad that he can see the hands and shit now what is stopping people from just murdering him?
Spends the entire series as a damsel in distress or the cliched meat shield that Subaru also seems quite fond of.
I hate this "weak MC takes hit for kawaii girl" cliche so much.
>He wants to be a hero in a fantasy world, which is unrealistic
You answered your own question. Normal people wouldn't dick around and treat people in this fantasy world like toys for their own entertainment. They wouldn't put on acts (pretending to be insane, pretending to care deeply about others) to paint themselves as some martyr hero.
For most of the show, he's been acting like everything was some kind of game where he appears and becomes the type of self-insert hero you see in most isekai. It worked fairly well until he made a mockery of the royal selection and tried to become Emilia's knight against her wishes, which is definitely not something a normal person would try to do.
GATE blatantly pointed out that the MC was an otaku. If it did anything right, it's to be honest about it being yet another generic isekai.
That's the point he's dumb not weak. Shirou can kill Subaru 1000x over
A normal person would probably be more autistic than Subaru and die way more than him.
>Shirou I'm a heroic spirit protected by the legendary defense avalon and my own massive defense stat
>GIRLS CANT FIGHT RETARD
literally triggered
But a better anime wouldn't have needed to point it out so blatantly. Let the scenes speak for themselves
No, a normal person would be much more cautious about the strange world they find themselves in and wouldn't constantly fuck up like he Subaru does. If they had return from death, there's no reason why literally anyone couldn't do better, hence why people constantly complain about Subaru's retarded decision making on here. That's the point of his character.
First one that comes to mind. The best part is that he's supposed to be smart, but he just isn't.
I completely disagree about everything in this post.
But why does him being a NEET make him think it's like a video game when he constantly gets shown otherwise through his own brutal deaths? Even the stupidest smelliest fattest NEET understands how to play video games, so getting a respawn power would make literally any NEET more successful than Mitsubishi.
He seems like his fatal flaw is being a retard rather than a NEET is what I'm saying.
He can kill Subaru, but in his show he is still a weakling.
>You have no money and no connections so how the fuck would you be able to learn spells you faggot?
That's the whole point of groundhog day'ing the Roswaal event (which if you remember re-occurred in the same way many many times before he finally overcame the curse, which makes it seem pretty likely that you could abuse that if you kept killing yourself after a few days. Or actually, if you found out about the curse, you could just keep abusing that to die over and over as a hard time limit). You have to save Emilia first to get there but I'd probably do that anyways because that's the only reasonable way to GET money/connections considering the circumstances at the start.
Then it's just about Roswaal's library. When learning about shamans and curses he spent a decent amount of time reading books in there, I don't see what would prevent you from spending as much time as you needed learning stuff, especially if you used Roswaal's "any wish you want" thing over and over again in various ways.
>hot elf girl who is very nice to you
I'm just not that thirsty, and honestly considering how horrific dying is, survival and learning how to properly use my power would be priority #1. I think the disembowling would be enough to convince me how important it is.
>money
By that point I'd have spent enough time in the Roswaal mansion doing what I wanted and learning everything I could. You don't age but your memory remains intact so this could go on for literally years, learning and increasing your magic abilities (as currently seen in the anime, even after dying and resetting subaru's magic abilities are able to grow stronger).
If I had a bunch of money and went somewhere obviously you'd use that for investments and such. You'd use it as a nest egg to start a normal life, like if you got an inheritance irl you'd probably do the same. Depending on how much money you could get from Roswaal, you might be able to get enough to simply retire in luxury somewhere, idk.
>seasonal worst mc
>it took him like dozen of respawns after yolorushing dangerous obstacles and some hard public humiliation to understand that he is just an ordinary human in world full of high level dudes, who supplex castles and sweat fireballs
>instantly throws a bitchfit over this fact
>implying average peson would be THAT autistic
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
This shitter is supposed to be the otaku master yet it took 3 deaths to realize he was respawning.
You don't have to understand video games to understand a respawn ability. The reason why him being a NEET is his downfall is because his priorities are fucked up. He is incredibly boastful and talks big shit to dangerous potential enemies like that one knight who beat the shit out of him because his mind interprets the situation as one where he is the MC who can do no wrong. It's a consequence of consuming media like SAO where the main character is basically flawless, and even when when they're reckless it works out in the end. A normal person wouldn't insult a knight's honor for literally no reason, or disobey the wishes of the girl he loves just because he's curious.
In reality he barely sees the other characters as real people, just as characters.
What would happen if he ended up moping the floor with the Knight that challenged him after numerous resets?
Yes and?
Funny because Re:Zero's same exact gimmick is used in a well known porno game from 2008, except Unkoman is blessed with a better save mechanic.
Sounds like he's not as well versed in otaku culture as he pretends to be.
So basically Subaru is retarded or otherwise mentally deficient in some way. I just wish the anime would be more straightforward about this since it seems to portray him as a normal dude and then he goes ahead and does all of this retarded shit that no sane person would do given the circumstances.
I mean you'd think even just the pain of the first time dying would be enough to wake up even the most retarded person into being way more cautious and figuring out what's going on. But not Subaru for some reason. In fact he seems to get MORE reckless as the anime progresses, which is completely insane.
Not the guy you were talking to before btw.
It's highly inconsistent with him being the trope know-it-all.
>I just wish the anime would be more straightforward about this since it seems to portray him as a normal dude and then he goes ahead and does all of this retarded shit that no sane person would do given the circumstances.
How do you portray somebody that's stupid in a more explicit way than making him do stupid shit?
What you don't seem to understand is that the power ain't his, he's a dog on a leash. He's not in control and the witch keeps reminding him that.
There's no way he could've beat him with so little time for preparation unless he got somebody else to help fight. He was stuck without the only power he had to help him, and finally had to face the consequences of his actions.
Every death he experience makes scar on his mind animeonly friend. He literally dies everytime he 'uses' his power and he's really afraid to die because it's fucking horrifying.
And he isn't sure that this power has no limit. What if the next time he die he really die? Do you think he would die just to know today's weather?
They portray him more like a normal, average person so it gives the impression that "this is what a normal person would do in this situation", that's the problem I have with it.
Obviously he's retarded my problem is they seem to portray him in sense that "yeah well any normal person would act like a retard in these extreme circumstances, though!" Which simply isn't true.
No I understand that, but I'm glad you brought that up because it leads me to an important question that has yet to be truly answered and that I briefly mentioned here: >On the other hand I probably wouldn't give so much of a shit about Emilia (assuming I actually could do this and wasn't being manipulated somehow into giving a shit)
This might very well be true, I've heard some people post about it briefly from time to time around here too. If that's the case then it just makes it that much more of a schadenfreude anime, because Subaru then doesn't really have free will, he's to some extent a mind-controlled zombie. Not in the extreme sense of course, but he's basically set on a path he can't get out of, with his mind being manipulated to act in a certain way by the Witch.
Which just makes the anime worse because Subaru can't even really be held accountable for his own actions, he'd just be a puppet at that point who thinks he's doing his own thing, but in reality he's just doing what the Witch wants him to. Which is just depressing since at least at this point in the story of the anime, it would seem to imply he's in a weird form of torture of which there is no escape, and he can't think his way out of it because his mind is being controlled by the Witch to act in certain ways.
He doesn't know if he'll keep coming back.
Sure it's likely, but he doesn't KNOW. Hence he's scared of abusing it.
>Do you think he would die just to know today's weather?
You cheeky fuck
I am tired of Neets in anime, why studios and jap society still with "Neets = otaku" and "they ruined japan"?
Japan should stop insulting his young children.
>they seem to portray him in sense that "yeah any normal person would act like this in this situation"
Not really. He's the only one who's ever implied anything like that, and it was out of self-pity. Other characters have understandably called him out time and time again for his weird behavior and incomprehensible decisions.
NEETs are subhumans who think they're tough shit. Its the perfect archetype for subaru.
I feel like the "scars on his mind" aren't from just dying but from HOW he dies. He dies in a variety of really gruesome and painful ways, he sees his friends die or get tortured, etc. I feel like if he just hung out in the mansion and died in his sleep every 4-5 days it wouldn't really be scarring, or furthermore if he had a way to painlessly, instantly kill himself, it would avoid the problems of long, excruciating pain and agony usually associated with his deaths.
Whether the power has a limit or not may be uncertain, but it certain seems implied at this point. To the point where several times he probably wish he COULD die, but wasn't allowed to. Ultimately I bet there's information you could learn in the library books on the Witch and maybe something that could explain how the power works in more detail.
In general I'd experiment and figure out how the fuck my one single power works, what it's limits are, how the autosave function works with how it changes, etc. Honestly the roswaal save point is pretty important because you have access to his vast library, to training from Pack, to learning the history and language from Ram, etc.
This of course is all assuming you're not being mentally manipulated all the time by the Witch which would make any form of revolt pretty much useless.
Ultimately though I'd probably take the risk, alongside learning all I could from the library. If I could learn enough and gain enough magic power from training before finally leaving the mansion with enough money to retire or at least start a business somewhere far away, I'd probably refrain from dying anymore.
>They portray him more like a normal, average person
Sure, maybe at first, but by the time episode 13 rolls around he makes actions that are supposed to disconnect him from the viewer. He disconnects from any traces of self insert he had and strongly becomes his own character, morphing from "normal, average person" to "Mitsubishi".
There's even a very personal backstory for him later on that explains a lot about how he acts.
I dunno, it seems like you're putting in an intention that isn't even meant to be there. In fact I'd say the show is trying to do the opposite.
It's because of their society shame thing, they don't want to admit they are at fault. If any other country fucks up as bad, they always admit the country is bad, and not "this group of people is at fault and everybody should stop being like them".
If a woman gets raped, they blame the woman, it's an island full of retards.