How can i turn my people to the right wing racial nationalism Sup Forums? For some reason we have a victim mentality that seems to keep the movement socialist instead of pushing for things that could actually help like Blaxit (which i know you all want) and racial identity/pride.
There are ways to fix our issues such as the encouragement of traditional values but i dont know how to begin as people get shunned for even voting republican in our communities.
TL;DR how the fuck do get a black natsoc movement started? Would appreciate any advice.
The best way to fight systematic oppression is for us to have our own country. I wish you luck, brother
Chase Cruz
I'm white, so take that into consideration
Malcom X would be a good place to start if you haven't already looked into him. I agree, best solution would be to just form your own nation state, every race ought to have a place where their identity is represented in all echelons of Govt and media. Unfortunately in America, that doesn't exsist for any one group
Kayden Roberts
You can't, it's much better for niggers to say that they are oppressed other than doing something on their own.
Kayden Perry
Anythings possible
Ryder Collins
As a white nationalist I agree with black nationalists/separatists so much. We should probably just give them the south.
Jack Wright
black nationalism necessarily includes a race war, which you would lose. why don't you just quit raping and killing white people instead and we'll call it even?
Jacob Richardson
You can't just arbitrarily delegate an area, it has to be natural Give the Cotton belt, that's were blacks have the highest population density. Of course, specifics could be worked out
Caleb White
it works that same for any ethnic group. most black nationalists turn to Islam, which probably isn't a good idea since everyone hates muslims. the church has always been a pillar for black communities in this country, so that's where I'd start.
Samuel Martinez
I wish you the best, neo-nazism has to die and people have to realize that national socialism is about racial identity and being with your own people. Everything is stumbling into complete chaos.
Julian Thompson
I would agree, the issue is that the media in america is obsessed with trying to make a failed experiment of a multi-racial society work when time and time again it has been shown to work out shit for both blacks and whites.
Theres a reason you have all these young black 'progressives' pushing for more black people in ads,media,government etc. Its a natural response to being a minority but the problem cant be solved by making more disproportionate representation it can only be solved by having a Nation where it makes sense for all people in all areas to be black. Said young people just need to be informed of this.
On Malcom X i would consider him far more of hero than Martin Luther cuck jr. pic related
Ryder Wilson
How about Integralism or Fascism? Both had people of both races included in it, and there was a lot of people who wanted to create the very concept of a nation. Unless you go full on Blaxit in America, NatSoc movements are simply impossible here. In my opinion, the better way to do this is to create a new American identity, so that way people of all races are represented as Americans without creating this false dichotomy of classes that communism does.
Cameron Edwards
You'd have to somehow show your people that welfare and other social benefits are meant to keep them down. Perhaps incite hatred towards the Chinese and spark a reconquista movement that would make blacks want to move back to Africa and make it into a fascist paradise?
Levi Long
Thats the problem. Thats the easy way out but just leads to more self victimization which is inherently destructive for any racial/ethnic group.
Dominic Turner
Get them jobs, teach them to start businesses, find and share whatever opportunities already exist. Give people a way to earn money on the right side of the law without the government and they'll stop sliding left.
Samuel Thompson
Exactly. If everyone had their own nations there would be no racial strife within said nations. Speaking of Malcom X, another important thing which he tried to do was build a clean and respectable black identity. I think if you were to create a movement and you gave off smart, strong, and respectable optics in the way you spoke and dressed you could have the potential to attract people
Jeremiah Lee
Shouldn't be too hard. no black guilt. considering you have a conscience... Black people usually don't vote nationally, since "oh, he's such a darn heckin' racist. he sure is a no-good harlot. what a miserable pete that is wow, my feminist studies warned me about him!"
Juan Moore
Islam is culturally and ethnically tied to the arabic people, so applying it to Europe or Africa just fucks up an already shit situation.
On the church, thats the thing the church is only tied to african-americans, you couldn't promote a back to africa movement if you used a white religion as your founding principles.
> the better way to do this is to create a new American identity I dont believe that would solve the issue, the establishment tries to push this narrative (albeit without the facisim) and its just led to the absolute disastrous situation we're in now. Honestly i believe a black NS movement could work if its aims were the foundation of United Africa not the creation of black USA.
Cameron Scott
Are you looking to create a black Ethnostate for African Americans or a back to Africa movement?
Joseph Reyes
In regards to building a better identity, i would look to what George Lincoln Rockwell said.
>Elijah Muhammad "has gathered millions of the dirty, immoral, drunken, filthy-mouthed, lazy and repulsive people sneeringly called ‘niggers’ and inspired them to the point where they are clean, sober, honest, hard working, dignified, dedicated and admirable human beings in spite of their color...Muhammad knows that mixing is a Jewish fraud and leads only to aggravation of the problems that it is supposed to solve. Really just sums up what a good leader is made of and how you can fix a community as broken as ours.
Nathan Wright
Back to Africa, im sure most Americans would happily give up southern California for a black ethno-state but...... come on we have some standards
Nathan Anderson
>You couldn't promote a back to africa movement if you used a white religion as your founding principles Well technically, Christianity is a semitic religion. Ethiopia does it quite well for example. But then again I don't know much about African culture in general. So I could be wrong.
>The establishment tries to push this narrative and it's just led to the absolute disastrous situation we're in now. What (((they))) push for is very different from what Mussolini, Mosley, or Salgado pushed for. America is one of those artificially created nations like Ukraine or Canada. I usually use these two nations as examples of what to push for, and what not to push for.
Ukraine creates the concept of being Ukrainian as adopting the language, living your life as a Ukrainian citizen, and ensuring you serve the state of Ukraine your whole life. If you serve something that hurts the Ukrainian State, then you are severely punished for going against the State that represents the various minorities of Ukraine. If you can't do these, you are NOT a Ukrainian.
Canada however does things differently. Canada wants you to simply live life however you want while pretending that they are able to all live together, all cultures are equal, and that this can never have any wrong and that your local Jihadist can easily get along with your neighborhood slut and live in harmony.
This is the difference between what Fascists push for, and what the fatcats in Washington push for. Does that make sense?
Connor Perez
Oh I see. Some good points to work around: >we can make Africa great! Black Americans are smarter than Africans, though I'm not sure about the inner city dregs >we'd be rich! Take Zimbabwe for example, you all migrate there and you will own that country with all of your collective wealth >Africa belongs to us Self explanatory
Jaxon Gray
Honestly I'd be willing to put up with KANGZ propaganda if it meant back to Africa.
Brody Anderson
Overturn the Civil Rights Amendment and restore the right of free association. Then everyone can live where they want, do business with whom they want, without the need for a war or additional government intervention.
Justin Butler
WE WUZ KANGZ shit is kind of self destructive as it builds an ethnic identity based on a lie. Stuff like this works much better.
>Christianity is a semitic religion I suppose it did originate from the Jewish people but it has been culturally tied to Europe and Whites for thousands of years to the point of it being near extinct in the semetic peoples.
Ethiopia is not in the best state so im not really certain of them being a good example. I think embracing African tribalism would be much more productive.
I would agree to the part about serving Ukraine as a fundamental part of Ukrainian identity but i think thats more so tied to ethnic identity not racial identity although it would be excellent to have in individual african countries and every country in general.
Canada is an example of just how badly and how quickly multiculturalism can destroy a nation. But honestly serves its purpose of being a warning for any other people to not go down that road.
I understand your point but i still think i would be more inclined to national socialisim than fascism as it puts much more of focus on race, but i understand the benefits of a culturally fascist society.
Ryder Hughes
>promote nationalism in rap >white listeners will think its cool to be a nationalist and to associate with your own >nationalism becomes more accepted and not seen as hate >nationalism becomes mainstream and there are actually talks of the usa balkanizing >profit
Ian Myers
>ethnic identity based on a lie how many of these lies do you think we've memed into your ethnic identity? the virus doesnt just go away. these are post #blaxit issues, don't get ahead of yourselves. go back first then rebuild mudhuts.
Carson Garcia
While i despise rap as a degenerate, non-black creation. That could be quite interesting, not sure if it could work but it might be worth a shot.
National socialism would crush Nigger Culture the same way it destroyed the degeneracy of the Wiemar republic.
Charles Campbell
Make fellow black men and women realize that mixing with the whites is unclean and reduces the strength of the black race. It's what we believe too. Black/white nationalism has a lot in common. We need to give seperate but equal a try. I would load all the white South Africans up personally and swim the fuckers back to the Netherlands if it meant getting Europe back.
Connor Gomez
It's the only way. Nationalists need to place themselves into the media and entertainment industry to gain a foothold in the mainstream. We're like the communists of the 1950s, except what we're for is fact based and actually backed up by studies.
Colton Gonzalez
there is one huge difference - Weimar degeneracy didn't have the time to become a proper culture. it was a short timed mental illness and desperation over the collapse of everything Germany stood for. it filled the hole and emptiness the loss of our culture had left. for Germans their Prewar culture was like a Religion that united them. - i mean, Niggerism is basically like that but it has been going on for much longer. it had more time to grow on you - so it might stick. in this we now have the same Problem though. since modern western culture (maybe starting with the french Revolution) is nothing more than white Niggerism.
John Carter
>It is near extinct in the semetic peoples Christians exist in these areas. Believe me! They aren't as "extinct" as you may think of them to be. They're just quiet. A good example of this is in Syria. You have Christians, Muslims, Atheists...all fighting against Jihadists. I am a Christian myself so forgive me for my bias.
Also keep in mind, Christianity now has a firm grip on lots of African cultures. So it will be hard to shake it off of people. Same goes for Islam.
>I think that's more so tied to ethnic identity and not racial identity. That's the idea. You're going to have to make amends for the various ethnicities in Africa. They're still fighting each other to this very day. Hell, even us white folk still have us fighting each other in areas such as the Balkans. Or West Europeans hating Eastern Europeans and vice versa. So you're going to have to serve the various ethnicities. Which is why I advocate for fascism.
Read into Mosley sometime. He universalized the idea of Fascism out of Mussolini's Neo-Roman ideas.
Black people it's reasonable when they actually go to church.
Brandon Russell
With the BBC
Sebastian Baker
>How can i turn my people to the right wing racial nationalism Sup Forums?
Utilize and reinvigorate the black church to this cause.
Robert Robinson
Advice from a white guy: don't.
When black people get an education and make progress in the world, do they choose to move to black neighborhoods or escape them? They tend to make decisions that favor their own self-interest rather than that of people who simply share the same skin color.
Do the same.
Forget "nation" and "race": just look after you, your family, and your children.
Secure your own existence and a future for your children.
Frankly, that's what the smart white people do. We don't look out for the dipshit losers in trailer parks or the methheads or the stupid. We look out for our own children and families, and our society is built around that idea of self-interest. Looking out for others just leads to communism and failure.
Noah Sanchez
i'm sure there are a lot of reasonable black people that don't go to church as well. - i'm actually split on religion. i'm a spiritual guy but i don't consider myself very religious. but the overall culture i assume is just as corrupt as white culture. the degeneracy expresses itself in a different way, because blacks and whites are different.
They have their own issues and they have to struggle with making their own people do the most basic stuff properly, but at the same time they manage to do some things properly that our society no longer can.
Logan Edwards
i'd advise you to not use terms like natsoc because most americans have been brainswashed to reject anything related to nazis. many "far left" black power people are already halfway there, with their "revolutionary" mindset, belief in conspiracies, racial pride, etc.
they just have to distance themselves from their liberal masters and actually do something
Nathaniel Anderson
That selfishness is what im trying to change. Putting the individual or the self first is always toxic no matter what the race.
>You're going to have to make amends for the various ethnicities in Africa. They're still fighting each other to this very day This is something i have to look into actually. For a blaxit to work Black americans have to really figure out the situation over there and support any and all nationalist groups/parties the same way Irish Americans funded the IRA.
Austin Johnson
As much I hate to admit, commies are right in the fact that the upper class, and their collaborators like to keep as many racial and class identity as possible for the control. But the they are not right in the case when they saying that all these identities and class should unite and merge then create an utopia. Push for your racial identity without badmouthing others racial identity. After all it's not whitey who keep you down. This concept is just simply are the modern chains of afro americans but I guess you are already know that.
Dominic Brooks
That selfishness is the struggle that leads to bettering oneself, and the aggregate result of many people bettering themselves as individuals is social progress. Abandoning selfishness leads those who receive help to become indolent and backwards: exactly what you see in the hood among the welfare rats. Besides, it's not selfish when you do it for your children: direct your altruism toward them.
The race and nation groupings are just imaginary projections of the true human group, the family. Do for your family, give your children all the advantages you can including a stable home and no access to Sup Forums or other hardcore drugs. Let the folks on welfare fend for themselves as best they can. If you see profit in it, sell them a book or two about how you improved yourself and made something of yourself.
Aaron Allen
actually the individualistic guy is right. nationalist stuff is cool and beautiful, but it will always be a story. behind the scenes, all there are is individuals trying to climb to the top. don't fall for the romance and make a better life for your children.
the bell curve insures that there will always be losers. you can't save everyone.
Aiden Price
family
Evan Bell
I don't you should have to be a try hard individualist to achieve something. You can be both successful and a community leader. This much of an individualism is what ruined the west. Everybody is just caring about their own group and abandoning their people, race and their culture in this process.
Kevin Anderson
If interested in getting involved heres one of the old Sup Forums threads.
AGENDA:
1. Organization twitter account - DONE @officialblaxit 2. Organization website with following pages: a. Host for infographics b. Compilation of fake statistics i. Link statistics to other websites about black nationalism ii. Create blogs to host these statistics iii. Put them in pdf form so they look legitimate c. Links to outside Blaxit articles d. Official manifesto e. Articles about Blaxit written by members f. Biographies about people like DuBois, Malcolm X, and Marcus Garvey with quote compilations detailing their views about Black Separatism 3. Crowdfunding a. purchases that may want to be made with the money: i. ad space on websites ii. videos (perhaps from fiverr) detailing plans of Blaxit 4. Make Lib memes guilting them into going along with the movement
hashtags >#Blaxit #BLM #BlackTwitter #Blaxodus #Black Lives Matter #Black Power
facts to tweet and use > 700 million people will be moving into African cities in the next 35 years – that means building an entire New York City every six months until 2050 > Nine out of the 20 fastest growing economies in the world are in Africa > African startups raised USD 187.5 million last year > African venture capital companies reported up to 330% growth last year > Africa is home to one billion people and 200 million of these are aged 15-24 > Africa has the fastest growing middle class in the world > Smartphone usage is at a tipping point, expected to reach 400 million users in 2020
facts to tweet and use > 700 million people will be moving into African cities in the next 35 years – that means building an entire New York City every six months until 2050 > Nine out of the 20 fastest growing economies in the world are in Africa > African startups raised USD 187.5 million last year > African venture capital companies reported up to 330% growth last year > Africa is home to one billion people and 200 million of these are aged 15-24 > Africa has the fastest growing middle class in the world > Smartphone usage is at a tipping point, expected to reach 400 million users in 2020.
Thanks to the user who made this
Isaac Martin
don't play dumb. top of society. money, glory, power
Alexander Sanchez
Start with the jewish question
James Wood
No, it was the altruism towards others like refugees and migrants that ruined the West. The desire for a better life for oneself lies at the heart of real progress. Why does someone go to college if not in hopes of a better life for oneself, to be qualified for a better job and more pay? The end result of many people individually choosing to pursue that better life is a better educated society. Why does someone work hard in a job, if not for promotion and better pay? The end result of many people individually choosing to work hard is increased national productivity. Nobody goes to school or work for the good of the race or nation. They do, however, think of their families. Family is the only real tie. Nazis larp about "blood and soil" because they know that "blood" sounds important: they forget, though, that the only real blood ties you have are to your family, and the only soil that really matters is the rock on which you build your house.
John Ward
Your race is like a junkie hooked on smack.
The smack is the gibs.
What would you do to help a junkie? How important is this?
Leo Peterson
Agreed, ''Whites aren't are enemy, (((whites))) are'' is on my to do list for propaganda.
Christopher Cook
Convince the junkie he doesn't need the smack. Convince Blacks they dont need the gibs.
Colton Murphy
so you need a society you can climb on top of. that would mean having a weak society would make it easier for you to climb on top of it. so actually you are trying to weaken society in order to achieve this. - that means you avoid real struggle and all you ever did is beating a blind guy in a game of I spy. is that what you are saying? cause that makes you look like a pathetic fool who is trying to avoid real competition. why not build up your society and make it strong to feel really good about actually achieving something? you are going for the quick benefit like the degenerate weakling you are.
Henry Wright
>Convince the junkie he doesn't need the smack.
Wow you are one sheltered black.
>Convince the junkie he doesn't need the smack.
Jaxson Perez
Aren't the Hoteps already a thing?
Ian Anderson
Just tell them to stop being Mind-slaves for their masta's, they will literally regurgitate anything they are told to. If they stop being mind-slaves they will rapidly become Nationalists.
Luke Young
''SHIIDDDDD NIGGA WHA U BEE SAYIN, I GRUW OP IN DA HUD U FEEEEEEELLLL''
Thankfully sheltered yes.
Adam Cox
my friend. wonder why ethiopia and nigeria are constantly under attack but are never talked about? it's because their Faith is so strong it keeps them from total absolution. Orthodoxy scares the SHIT out of ignorant and rothchild zio ppl.
Ephesians 6:12 - For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Romans 5:10-12 - For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. and not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
they've cast hexes on the black community since 1965. I grew up knowing and never fell for hessian natsoc.
The Chinese government could not just "convince" their populace to stop being chemical slaves to British opium. Addiction makes you an animal.
Your opium is gibs, and your British are the Democrats.
Christian Campbell
so you need a society you can climb on top of. that would mean having a weak society would make it easier for you to climb on top of it. so actually you are trying to weaken society in order to achieve this. - that means you avoid real struggle and all you ever did is beating a blind guy in a game of I spy. is that what you are saying?
Evan Smith
the magick the canaanite elite use is the same magick that your ancestors remember as mine after the babylonian diaspora. all pagan religions are derived from canaanite ritualism.
natsoc is a blood libel. it needs mass occult sacrifice in order to yield result...
Thomas Reyes
>Unfortunately in America, that doesn't exsist for any one group Yes goy, in america there is no (((one group))) whose interests are represented at all levels of Governemnt and media.
Noah Campbell
This
Jonathan Green
Humans are hard wired to distrust other races and cluster among their own race. Only trough decades of conditioning have our people been convinced to advocate for the interests of other groups and it’s not for the love of blacks but because we as white Americans have been programmed to hate ourselves.
Lincoln Williams
Unfortunatley many blacks aren’t intelligent enough to be productive in developed countries. You can’t teach someone with an IQ 82 to start a business
Michael Bennett
Our founding fathers wanted to return you to your homeland. Africa is yours. Go take it.
James Barnes
>If everyone had their own nations there would be no racial strife within said nations.
I think racial strife is pretty much an American meme.
Brazil imported way more negro slaves than the US did, but they don't seem to have as much racial strife. But the US was founded on the principal that all men are created equal so in order to continue with slavery the slaves had to be less than "men", and were dehumanized as niggers. A black male was referred to as "boy", and the colloquialism of referring to people as "man" in speech such as "hey man what's up?" stems from the civil rights movement in the 1960s.
Other countries weren't founded with that idea of all men being equal, so they could just get on with using slaves without having any angst about it or do any mental gymnastics.
Kayden Gray
Brazil is a shit show. Racial strife is everywhere it’s just not widely publicized. If you traveled around the world you’d realize that besides maybe Canada the US is the most racially tolerant nation on earth.
Nicholas Powell
How about you start with not promoting that leftist clusterfuck movement who's flag you selected Christianity is widespread in africa
>Racial strife is everywhere it’s just not widely publicized It is, but in a different way from the US. It's more covert. It's not as violent as it is in the US. Sure, our violence issues are orders of magnitude worse than yours, but it's not racially motivated at all. It's a different thing.
Zachary Barnes
I seriously like your cause. It will be very hard to achieve, but if Africa was to be stabilized under a NatSoc ideology it would hurt globalism greatly.
There are a lot of very limiting factors to this tough: >American blacks are largely mixed you'd need to somehow get the actual niggers in Africa under your thumb >Africa isn't one culture You only really have the racial aspect for black americans. Africa has lots of different tribes and traditions.
Anthony Lewis
You just pointed out the fundamental flaws with all forms of group identity, including your own.
Henry Parker
that is untrue, germans have a largely homogenous culture and genepool. of course this is being eroded at the moment, but it is not too late.
Robert Wood
I think he meant the hurting globalism greatly part. :^)
Charles Lee
to continue the list: >africa is being profiteered of by jews and others all over the place will be hard to convince them otherwise >warlords You would somehow have to defeat all the current "government structures" there
and last but not least >conviction you need to show conviction to move others, this will inherently be hard, since to do what you preach you would have to be in africa.
If you can overcome these hurdles somehow this might work. I would work first and foremost to think a strategy for the alst one, to build a strong movment in the US.
Jason Sanchez
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Daniel Powell
Nice to see that the movement is getting less of "GTKRWN" and more of a "We best separate peacefully and make the best we can of ourselves" in terms of discussion. Keep making these threads, user, if they become regular, more and more posters will come here and you can start memeing and influencing public discourse. The first thing I would advocate for, would be the abolishing of the bussing-programs. The other thing you can do, is talk to your black friends, and try to be a pillar within your community. Help out your kinsmen and create structures withing your area that support themselves. There is also a cultural war to be fought. Similarly to how whites have to motivate their women to get children again, within the black community the foremost goal has to be the portrayal of the father in a classic family as a positive role. Growing up without an intact family is one of the worst factors destroying black kids before they can even flourish in life. In fact, you don't even have to convince a lot of people by words, lead by example, have a happy black family, women will see this, try to expose it especially to the young, for seeing this example may make them reconsider what they want in life as well. I can only speak from my own experience on this, of course, but I was an anti-natalist faggot until I joined a sports club and saw a happy family with three little girls. I spent time with them, and then decided, that the burden of children is far outweighed by the purpose and content they bring to life (no to omit, that reproduction is the fundamental purpose in biological life a t least).
Hunter Nguyen
In that case I couldn't care less
Brody Collins
Oh okay.
More that any group you choose to identify with can be infinitely subdivided into smaller and smaller groups, which is why people keep trying to add letters to LGBTQ+2. Even Hitler was part african and jew.
Nicholas Wright
>Even Hitler was part african and jew. And he had one ball and was gay!
Aaron Martin
Don't make up random shit about the Führer. this sounds like you just pulled it out of your ass.
Evan Ramirez
I wish Europeans would just men up(and maybe team up with Asians) to finally get rid of the black pest called Africans.
Landon Parker
Yeah that map seems about accurate, we have a lot of migrants these days. Still the actual germans have a common culture tradition and genepool. Can you explain the graphic a little further tough?
Alexander Cook
>Do I look like I know what a .jpeg is????
Liam Bailey
Niggas in Paris
Lincoln Long
American blacks are a lost cause. You have to find a way to free them from the clutches of Marxism, which doesn't really happen to people till after the state has become full communist then inevitably collapses You'd be better off meming in Africa instead. Tell them that you can stop the Chinese from raiding their villages for metals and they'd be on board
Thomas Moore
African x Caribbean Blacks, united.
Isaac Rodriguez
Carribean blacks that are of high status (mulattos, land owners, non-niggers basically) would join but the rest are just as bad as the niggers here
Hunter Hall
>How can i turn my people to the right >help me white people
Out nigger, flights to Africa leave every hour.
Robert Thompson
This thread, larping white nationalists all anxious to waste time trying help a poor nigger better himself. That's how we got into this problem. DON'T SEEK THE WELFARE OF OTHER RACES, SEEK ONLY YOUR OWN.
Adam Gray
When your car is broken you see a mechanic When your people have been brainwashed by hundreds of years of Jewry, you see white people. At the very least you pick their brains
