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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/11/report-hugo-chavezs-favorite-daughter-is-the-richest-person-in-venezuela/
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3977050/100-million-bed-hopping-hypocrite-claimed-lived-20-month-Fidel-Castro-20-luxury-homes-private-island-88ft-yacht-mistresses-galore.html
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jong-un-spent-over-600m-in-a-year-while-north-korean-citizens-starved-to-death-9145059.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9767514/Heirs-of-Communist-Chinas-Eight-Immortals-have-amassed-huge-wealth.html
theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1
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gommies.gom/1984/
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gommies.gom/probaganda/
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Only thing automation and UBI is going to do is widen income inequality. Literal industrial feudal lords vs gibs peasants

Have you read the history of Russia?
No?
To the gulag with you.

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Every time you post this you get btfo, why do you post every time. Did i ever tell you the definition of insanity user?

Captialism --> Communism --> Democide --> Repeat

What a Jewish trick

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes Jewish forces behind Communism
youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

>Europa - The Last Battle
youtube.com/watch?v=WqREtbt__O8

>In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.
>In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.
>Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths.
>In his acclaimed book “The Great Terror: Stalin’s Purge of the Thirties,” Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said: “We get a figure of 20 million dead [under Stalin], which is almost certainly too low and might require an increase of 50 percent or so.”
ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789

>Hugo Chavez’s Favorite Daughter Is Richest Person in Venezuela
breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/11/report-hugo-chavezs-favorite-daughter-is-the-richest-person-in-venezuela/

>$120 million bed-hopping hypocrite: He claimed he lived on $25 a month. But Castro had 20 luxury homes, a private island, an 88ft yacht - and mistresses galore
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3977050/100-million-bed-hopping-hypocrite-claimed-lived-20-month-Fidel-Castro-20-luxury-homes-private-island-88ft-yacht-mistresses-galore.html

>Kim Jong-un 'spent over $600m in a year' while North Korean citizens starved to death
independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jong-un-spent-over-600m-in-a-year-while-north-korean-citizens-starved-to-death-9145059.html

>Heirs of Communist China's Eight Immortals 'have amassed huge wealth'
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9767514/Heirs-of-Communist-Chinas-Eight-Immortals-have-amassed-huge-wealth.html

>Of the seven oligarchs who controlled 50% of Russia's economy during the 1990s, six were Jewish
theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

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commies = neoliberals with red paint

We had some of your kind do a protest down here on our beautiful islands.

youtube.com/watch?v=SqtC-1lSbt8
>2:27 - "Get the fuck off me! Bleeuerrgh!"
>4:47 - "Get me my cane! for the love of jesus! my cane! help me!"


You seem like very intelligent people, I'd like to learn more about your way of life.

>if -I- was the dictator communist utopia would have been achieved

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF MARXISTS

>communism
>luxury

What happened to the labor theory of value?

Get a job

Well i could work this time, I GUESS

>philosophy of gib and starve
top keku

>Materialist Worldview
Shit tier.
Let me introduce you to the Worldview of the proletariat you little college faggot (or NEET)

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>replacing a system that allows unelected jews to remain in power with another system that allows unelected jews to remain in power

No thanks.

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Nope that shits gay dawg

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oh hey its you again
how goes the recruitment?

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Rolling

remember communism makes like an intellectuals fantasy, but that's all it will ever remain as. its not possible in the slightest for communism to fully manifest into utopia. capitalism is the closest thing to heaven.

You shouldn't have to "recruit" the people you should have to resonate with them and their plight. Marxists are so fucking aloof and estranged from the Volk. Mostly because of purposeful misdirection by their capitalist (((masters)))

>shit wizard
Fuck yes I can cast ASS BLAST and drown by enemies in shit

hit me

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***IMPORTANT QUOTE***

Sweet dude we should team up, the powers of shit and heavy metal go hand in hand

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Rolling

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Show me number 10!

>Advocate for your replacement
>Thinking such a highly efficient system would be fine with you doing nothing and not benefiting society in any way
>Be so lazy, you advocate for the death of others, a total power shift in both government and economy, a complete system overhaul, just so you can feel better about being a NEET
If this is what you truly believe in and want to happen, why aren't you doing anything to make it happen? You're just sitting at home, on a computer, talking about it. Aren't you taking classes to make robotics cheaper and more efficient? Are you taking economy classes to learn how to make the system less reliant on human workers and easier for repair workers so such a system could become minimal effort? Are you learning politics so you can run as a political figure, so you can advocate for such a system publicly?

Or are you just autistically screeching at people that don't believe such a perfect system could exist, while doing nothing? Seems to me like anyone that advocates for such a lazy system is too stupid and lazy to try anything that could put one in motion. I wonder why that is.

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Apparently there is a form of communism that exists where women aren't allowed in powerful positions. A type of communism where women are mainly housewives and mothers.

Is this true?

user I always had this one question regarding communism. Is the distribution of nigger dick equal in a communist state ?

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run

away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD

Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

Marxism and its practical strategies (Leninism) promises equality while it delivers slavery in the end, are you that dense ? We are not ants.

Non-Marxist Communism
AKA the opposite of what OP believes is le perfect utopia

>freedom is slavery now

Huh...

>MLM
>freedom
Dumb child

Maoism is revisionism.

Woops added an extra M on there
Also
>revisionism meme

Pathetic

you're not free in a controlled society that exploits you in the name of common good (the politburo)

Are you trying to say Stalin?

What is the communist perspective on transhumanism?

fucking die

pls kys

Capitalism promotes feminism btw

Got to get all those women in the workforce for low pay compressed Labour

Stalin was Marxist.

Community identity is great without the slave and master relationship the proletariat have with the plutocrats in a Marxist system.
And at that point you may as well go OG Socialist (pic related) and work for the Society/Folk.

Those common funds are used for improvement of the workers lives, therefor it is not exploitation.

Cane guy has been charged with obstructing traffic. Here he is lying in front of cars.

(((Capitalism))) promotes a lot of sick things to divvy up the masses and create drones and consumers.
Ideals based upon the Materialist Worldview (IE Marxism and capitalism) always lead to this sort of goal by opportunists who drink from that fountain.

I also think you should kys

>stop eating food

>Common funds
Always about money/materiel with you faggots.
Always about whether a profit can be turned.

Let's go.

Commies are self-loathing, so anything less human would clearly be an improvement for them.

Forget the issue of sensation or the new vulnerabilities that come with logging a sensitive human mind and consciousness into a program. Forget about how easy it would be to erase who you are and reprogram you into whatever they want. I'm sure technology would be smart enough, by then, to have defensive measures for everything, because humans are perfect, and think of everything, right?

Ha, that's right. We forgot to mention how that's a human theory and would be carried out by other humans. Or robots created by humans. But there's no way anything could go wrong, right? R-right?

Material conditions are the only real conditions that effect society and direct our actions, not "spiritual" or other causes.

>being Luddite

Wew lad.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

the worker is not an abstrction, its a human being with own wants, needs and desire to self-govern

OP suck a dick.

What a sad way to view the world.
(((Porky))) views the world the same way you do which is why he does what he does.
Focusing on just the World and just the tangible is an advanced form of nihilism, which thus leads to class strife because "why should I care about the workers under me I'm living comfortably I have plenty of materiel"
Whereas the Fascist Worldview values both the tangible world and the conceptual, recognizing the real and the unreal both to form a better consensus of the World. Concepts don't go away because there are no people to think of them, and they are not material. Yet concepts have driven people just as much as materiel throughout history.
Refer to: >wanting to mangle yourself by installing unneeded electronics and implants that will probably have downsides like EMP vulnerability

>communism
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm not a luddite. I just believe we need to find a balance where human and machine can work together without replacing either one. Of course we naturally want to minimize our effort while working but how far is too far?

Well, you're advocating for the total replacement of humanity excluding human workers that oversee production. What do humans do, if robots are fixing other robots? What if the robots that fix robots need to be fixed? You can't create an entire society of robots and expect humanity to stand by and allow themselves to be replaced.

In fact, it's ideologues like yourself that create luddites in the first place. No one wants to be replaced. Not blacks, not whites, no one. And if we're being honest, you sound more like a greedy 1% that wants more cheap/free labor. Is this why Communism blames Capitalism for all its flaws? Greedy bourgeoisie idiots like you?

>improvement of the workers lives
Meaning: Very important people, like the politicians get a decent Volga car while pleb... I mean the proletariat gets a shitty Trabant.

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lmfao saved

You think a bunch of bureaucrats will give a fuck about the plebs?

Hahaha
How naive.

What anti-marxist get worrisome about are;
>anybody with a decent size (not huge) ownership of land or business is a Kulak/Bourgeois
>for a society for "workers", it treats farmers like shit
>a new upper class of "Red Bourgeois" is spawned via "Nomenklatura" and is treated "More" equal than actual workers
>those with more skills/education are reduced to "equality of outcome"
>centralized planning doesn't account for allocating resources to needed production (factory A produces oversupply of item A when needed item B is not produced enough by factory B because of limited resources)
Mind y'all, I'm a brainlet that makes his living eradicating big pests from ranches/large properties and growing/selling weed. So take my post with a grain of bathsalt.

The value form is a spook.
Labor is not a virtuous activity.
Rent seekers deserve what they're given.
If you are going on Sup Forums to fulfil some kind of activism quota, you are not despot or even administrative material.
You motherfuckers just get corncobbed out here all day. Doesn't do a god damned thing.

What does "getting corncobbed" even mean? I've seen people on Twitter talking about it.

Getting repeatedly shit on and insisting you're winning an argument.