Are anarcho-communists fucking retarded?

Are anarcho-communists fucking retarded?
Anarchisms stands for 'NO goverment'
While communism stands for 'very very large government'
Why is this pairing seen so often despite being ideologically radical opposites?

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Doublethink.

>are anarcho communists retarded

>are anarcho communists retarded
yes

Anarchists are useful idiots for the Communists.

how so?

you are a fool and explaining you things is silly

Communism cannot be implemented peacefully. It requires - requires! - a violently overthrow of the existing government. Anarchists are too stupid to think beyond "fuck the system" so the Commies use them to overthrow the government. Once that's done, the Commies take control and toss the anarchists into gulags, or just execute them. It happens every single time communism came into power somewhere in the world. Every single time.

Anarcho Primitivism is the only tried and true anarchism

they don't actually believe in no government, they just like the word anarchy

I am a genius, and you are are retarded communist. I don't ask.

>While communism stands for 'very very large government'
Read a book. They both want a stateless society.

communism is boring so they rebranded

>>are anarcho communists retarded
yes

you imagine some Bolsheviks runing around, you cannot imagine life where you share what you have with your community without police

>Are anarcho-communists fucking retarded?
is water wet?

>imagine

That’s your problem with you lot, you live in a fantasy land. Reality doesn’t care about that. But that is how you attract the retards at the bottom of society to do your bidding, so whatever man

Thats because its never going to happen, Nothing bonds the comman man together. If you just all of a sudden had anarchy right now it would just be Ferguson riots everywhere.

Except when the glaringly obvious problem comes about of someone in society gets sick of getting shit on doing 1000x more work than others while having nothing to show for it. Then communism will need an institution that forces individuals to do what they deem 'best for society'.

God damn communism is so fucking retarded.

>Communist
>Stateless Society

choose one

An Egyptian writer, a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, wrote in the now-distant days of the first Tahrir square: “The people I saw on Tahrir Square were new Egyptians, having nothing in common with the Egyptians I was used to dealing with every day. It was as if the revolution had created Egyptians in a higher form […], as if the revolution had not only rid Egyptians of their fear but also cured them of their social defects. […] Tahrir Square became like the Paris Commune. The authority of the regime collapsed and the authority of the people took its place. Committees were formed everywhere, committees to clean the square and committees to set up lavatories and washrooms. Volunteer doctors set up a field hospital.” In Oakland, the Occupy movement held Oscar Grant Plaza as the “Oakland Commune.” In Istanbul, no better name could be found, already in the first days, than the “Taksim Commune” for what was coming into existence there. A way of saying that revolution was not something that Taksim might lead to one day, but its existence in actuality, its ebullient immanence, here and now. In September, 2012, a poor Nile Delta village, Tahsin, 3,000 inhabitants, declared its independence from the Egyptian state. “We will no longer pay taxes. We will no longer pay for schools. We’ll operate our own schools. We’ll collect our garbage and maintain our roads ourselves. And if an employee of the state sets foot in the village for any other purpose than to help us, we’ll throw him out,”

I literally might be turning into an Anarchist.

TL'DR
stop trying to play mental gymnastics

Nothing bonds the comman man together, The only thing thats stopping the western world from just killing eachother in the streets over Xboxes and playstations is the police. This is why everytime you see marshal law in the south their is massive amounts of looting,murder, and crime.

Stop trying to play mental gymnastics with your copy pasta, Its not going to happen. Period. get fucking real dude.

A forgotten historian puts it in a nutshell: “Without association through oath, there would have been no commune, and that association was sufficient for there to be a commune. Commune had exactly the same meaning as common oath.” So a commune was a pact to face the world together. It meant relying on one’s own shared powers as the source of one’s freedom. What was aimed for in this case was not an entity; it was a qualitative bond, and a way of being in the world. A pact, then, that couldn’t help but implode with the bourgeoisie’s monopolization of all the offices and all the wealth, and with the deployment of state hegemony. It was this long-lost, originary, medieval meaning of commune that was somehow rediscovered by the federalist faction of the Paris Commune in 1871. And it’s this same meaning that reemerges periodically since that time, from the movement of soviet communes—which was the forgotten spearhead of the Bolshevik revolution till the Stalinist bureaucracy decided to liquidate it—to Huey P. Newton’s “revolutionary intercommunalism” by way of the Kwangju Commune of 1980 in South Korea. Declaring the Commune is always to knock historical time off its hinges, to punch a hole in the hopeless continuum of submissions, the senseless succession of days, the dreary struggle of each one to go on living. Declaring the Commune is agreeing to bond with others, where nothing will be like it was before.

TL'DR see >wall of text crits you for 9999

fpbp

what bonds us right here and now? the English language, who own it? no one - its COMMON

the internet is also common, it binds us at this moment, we are both common

The only thing that keeps society afloat right now is an artificial economy and a police state.

skimmed over your post, looks like retarded gibberish

>Nothing bonds the comman man together
Only people who are inherently assholes believe this. Kill everyone who believes this and it will all instantly start to work.

this. pretty much.
although in thoery, they suppose to have individual anarchism, but suppose that a mutually agreed upon communism will somehow survive. it's kinda like a supposed council-of-free-men. how it's imposed is still sketchy. at this point i assume that it's meerly a front group for hoodlums and professional-"revoutionaries" to rally around and confuse any onlookers.
tl;dr it's fake as fuck and real anarchists know better, so should you. ;)

These people are so dumb

Do they not describe themselves as
Anarcho syndicalist? Not quite the same as anarcho communists.

Anyway I do not care what they call themselves they are trotskyite scum with a few anarchist retards sprinkled about.

If there are no police to enforce societies rules who is going to force me to share?

Its true, Their is no common belif in the western world that bonds everyone together. Thats why in the past when the world was mainly christian you didn't need a police state. People were afraid of god, not the fat pig down the street in a cruiser and the court system.

Holy shit, you realize that the revolution in Egypt was literally orchestrated by foreign and corporate powers?

You think it was some sort of freedom revolution. KEK

>keeps society afloat right now is an artificial economy and a police state

yes communism is the end of this society, you are just an atomized citizen-consumer-producer. you have no community, you are excluded from politics, helpless and vulnerable. anarcho-communism is going beyond this condition

It's in the definition

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

yes.

The natural state of humanity is to work togeather. Humans formed tribes with the other humans around them, as opposed to other kinds of animals that tend to be individuals, like crocodiles.

>you are just an atomized citizen-consumer-producer. you have no community, you are excluded from politics, helpless and vulnerable

yeah.... no shit?
The western world is in chaos right now. and the only thing stopping it from boiling over is the fact that people can still feed themselves and the police state.

Is this shit that hard to understand?

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>The natural state of humanity is to work togeather.
Wrong
>The natural state of humanity is to survive
Fixt*

Thats why the only thing stopping your neighbor from coming into your house and beating you up and taking your shit is
#1 an economy as shitty as it is it provides him with means to earn money and use that to buy himself food
#2 a police state as shitty as it is its the only thing making him afraid of bashing in your skull and stealing your shit

basic shit man, basic shit

you are just projecting your own helplessness on the world, you are not free so you deny the freedom of the insurgents in Egypt, for you everyone is manipulated because you are manipulated. you deny the existence of an manipulated being, a free being.

conspiracy theorists are counterrevolutionary in one respect at least; they reserve the privilege of conspiracy exclusively for the power elite. While it’s obvious that those in power scheme to preserve and extend their positions, it’s no less certain that there’s conspiracy everywhere—in building hallways, at the coffee machine, in the back of kebab houses, at parties, in love affairs, in prisons. Through capillary channels and on a global scale, all these connections, all these conversations, all these friendships are forming a historical party in operation—“our party,” as Marx said. Confronting the objective conspiracy of the order of things, there is a diffuse conspiracy of which we are de facto members.

You know what else is retarded? Anarchy-Capitalism. It's not nearly as reatarded as Communism, though. In a world divided, where the roughly 200 nations of the world broke into tens of thousands of city-states and enclaves, I could see something like Anarch-Capitalism existing. It would be such a rare and precious egg, though. It would be a random order in a tumult of chaos, a bubble in a vacuum. I would like to see such a thing. One might arise and quickly die, while another may survive eons, in a precarious balance.

The freedom of the insurgents? You mean the Muslim Brotherhood who the Military had to kick out of power because they were killing everyone that was no suni muslim?!

Damn dude you sound like a religious retard who knows only what his preacher has told him about the bible and never read it himself.

Come to think of it, has the Amish ever caused any major beef with anyone else? Far as I know, they tend to be pretty content in dossing about in their own little neck of the woods.

It's cute they think a big government will lead to no government.

who forces your girlfriend to give you had, unlike a hooker she does so out of pleasure, sharing is a great source of joy.

anarchy cannot exist anymore. even bumfuck dirt poor fourth world african shithole niggersteads have some form of government.

this is because when you don't have a government, you're basically free land for whoever turns up with an army.

the only reason ancap have a slight advantage over other anarchist systems is they can pay for private armies, so they wouldn't be an easy target.

amish exist within the US and US government. their existence is protected.

nice bait

what about the people in said village? we're they free, even for a month?

So you do not live in the real world then.
You literally think the majority of people would happily share the fruits of their labor with people they dont even know.

Wont require any enforcement at all.
NICE UTOPIA YOU GOT YOURSELF THERE

what about the american Tea party? the french revolution? the russian one? are they all manipulated? jews?

I think hes just shit posting or might be retarded.

Many external forces act on my girlfriend both to engage in the giving of head and enjoying it, or deny me the pleasure and be disgusted with the act. At one time, she may perform the act with abhorrence, or delay it with lust. Such is the fucked up joy of our current existence. So many players upon the stage with there own self interest spoiling the scene.

Yes, every single one of those revolutions were made possible by intelligent elites manipulating dumb peasants.

Yes yes and yes.

After world war 2 people were dicks to them because they are strict pacifists so they wouldn't fight

i woud share a refrigerator i'd made with my friends in our factory with people who share their agricultural produce with me. in Maidan people came from far away villages to share food with the communards there who where fighting the police

Keep saying imagine Lenin/Lennon faggot

>Fuck you bitch
>I and mine aint given you nothing

WATCHA GONNA DO?

you are i little man, someone imagined the USA at the time too, now you live in that dream, you are just an old spirited cynic, history is not for you apparently

aaaaaahahahahaha

funny thing is you probably dont have shit but debt. but watch out little man or we'll communize your little toothbrush

I am more interested in what you have shared, if anything, in the past. I want to know what skills you currently possess. Do you understand the four types of heat, the importance of the changes in state in a refrigeration system? Could you point unfailingly to the high side and low side. Men with nothing to lose any only gain frequently call for communism. Come Gopnik, I shall make apprentice of thee, that you might eat of your own labor.

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>Ancap
You mean just real anarchy? Because that is what real anarchy is.

they have that feeling that the DAO is real
but they can't quite get their finger on it because they are retarded or young to understand the important of having a feet in the known and a feet in the unknown, and neither do you, OP

Assange reckons he's up 50000% on his btc investment after being shut out of the banking system in 2010.

How can communism/socialism survive btc? Is this.. dare I say, the end?

>You lost that Zimbabwe feeling, ooh that Mugabe feeling

>We fish now

When viewed as a whole, one might say the world was chaotic. If you were to view the Earth from an outside vantage point now, objectively, that is what you would see today. One world order is wholly unhealthy to the human condition. Should it ever come to pass it would spur on a splinter of humanity to the stars. In my example, the tens of thousands of city-states and enclaves form tens of thousands of systems. In some of them, a true form of Anarch-Capitalism may arise, as well as many variations.

we got much and we constantly looking for more, we want everything, we are much more greedy then the capitalists.

But hundreds of kilometers away from the ZAD, in the nasty suburban sprawl of the metropolis, you find a collective, a commune, inhabiting the disaster and filling it with life. You sit in a living room, drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes, and you watch as the entire commune walks in an out of the collective house all day long. Everything is sharded freely, tobbacco, food, beds, drinks, money, vehicles. Downstairs, people fix the engine of one of the communal cars, getting it ready for the big trip to the ZAD. You are told not to ask for things so many times you begin to feel like a baby.

A group comes back from the forest. They have been discussing love and cybernetics. When you ask what they have found, they tell you two things. 1:cybernetics wants to know everything. 2: love is what cannot be known. Over twenty people in the commune were involved in coming to this conclusion. But before you can ask them any more questions, you are off to their social center for a gathering of the metropolitan comrades. Everyone sits around a long table as the food is prepared. A few children play in a corner. Two women are pregnant. You cannot tell who the parents of the children are. Everyone treats them the same. In the midst of laughter, joking, and coughing, the entire group makes collective decisions about who can use the cars and what day works best for fixing the new house.

It is decided the next day would be best, and you go with them to help, swinging a sledge hammer, tearing down brick walls, carrying wheel-barrows full of soil, and ripping out wooden beams. This is going to be a massive space, part social center, part house, part gym, part studio. When it is finished it will be in the center of an immigrant suburb and will be a hub of life for those living in the neighborhood. indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/04/509012.html

There are different flavors of socialism/communism

communism represents the end goal of a stateless society but socialists/communists differ on how to achieve it.

You have romantic socialism, revolutionary socialism, and technocratic big state socialism. most communists countries went through phases of each.

It's all non-sense though.

what defines a government? the monopoly on the use of force?

if you had some central planning counsel distributing everyones resources as needed BUT everyone giving their resources to them consented to do so because they were all communists and were free to go elsewhere if they wanted would that necessarily be a government?

I live a half an hour away from the Lancaster Amish in SE Pennsylvania. I've barely ever ran into them out that way, but in rare event that I did, they were genuinely nice people. By today's standards, they are religious extremists, they are a nice, non-exclusive community, unlike what you see from the Hassid kikes and Muslims.

>Communism cannot be implemented peacefully.
>implying communism can't be implemented via slow expand of the sate until it controls everything
You that people voted for Hitler and transferring of full authority under his control right?

Of course it will be government, the real issue it's using collectivism as a mean on it's own, instead of a tool.

Where is your joy? Where is your sense of satisfaction? In your example, I am but thistle caught in a whirlwind. Yes, I would labor, if not out of duty and responsibility, then out of shame, for watching all labor for our collective benefit, but none of these choices would be mine. I feel nothing of the impact of my own action, or lack thereof, in the world you just described. That passage spoke to me of a lost man awash in a tide.

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>play pretend in a commune while thriving off of the fruits of capitalism, but it’s okay because you share everything you buy from the store
ZAD only exists because capitalism produced the resources they use. They’re just another facet of the market.

>what defines a government?
1. the monopoly on the use of force.
2. recognition of another such monopolists.
Essentially worldwide ultimate racket cartel.

This

and you project your success onto others that their is no conspiracy.

keep doing it. let's meme freedom.

the "i" is the greatest burden we carry, no one escapes the prison of "I" alone.

when we dress all black and cover our faces there are no more identities, there are no more subjects, no more "me" and "you".

this tide is the greatest pleasure of all, the pleasure of the common, and all true common is beyond control, this is what scares this society.

let go, brother.

get rid of yourself,

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>A group comes back from the forest. They have been discussing love and cybernetics. When you ask what they have found, they tell you two things. 1:cybernetics wants to know everything. 2: love is what cannot be known. Over twenty people in the commune were involved in coming to this conclusion.

there theyre "THEIR".

I was 16 once too

This Ancom is woke AF... what are you two whining about?

>grow up

>dumbed down

not the same thing

neurodegenerative diseases.

No, you're retarded

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That's true, But people who did not agree with his ideas were killed.

Khaos is calling.

Egoist masterrace

Capitalism is literally an anarchy market, get with it tard

We already do that. We keep score because some people abused the system. It's called capitalism. I get to fix my computers, to make your fridge, your friend harvest his crop. We just know that some persons accomplish more than others. This is the only way redistribution of technology/wealth/status is ethical - consensual, freely made and binding obligation.

You literally do not understand the world through the lenses you change to see "the same picture." You are without vision.

>implying any of your comments were the least bit intelligent
You sound like a nerd that can't hang with the system so you want to burn it down. You say a lot of things, but not much of it has meaning. You seem like the kind of person that talks just for the sake of it.

That's fine, go hang out with your collective. I won't fuck with you, in exchange you shouldn't fuck with me. Sadly that isn't the case, blac block, antifa, whoever, loves to fuck with people. Unfortunately for you, the violence coming from the far left is pushing more people further right. You will give rise to the very thing you fear the most. Pic related. It feels like 1918 here in the states.

Want =/= does

Fucking intellectually dishonest faggot

we want everything, we are greedy, more greedy the our enemies. of course we gonna fuck with you, we're not snowflake liberals "live and let live" one cannot live with this colonizing force, the native americans were colonized until the end. life and death cannot live side by side. civil war is a constant. is there a place in america where police cannot enter?

The fact that we both speak english is not going to prevent me from shooting you when you try to take my shit commie.

This

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