Why doesn't Sup Forums consider Albanians to be white?

Why doesn't Sup Forums consider Albanians to be white?
Albanians are descended from ancient Illyrians and genetically cluster with other Balkan peoples and are closely related to Greeks. Many Albanians are Catholics or even Orthodox Christians too and even the Muslim ones are pretty much just secular and constantly intermarry with Christians.
Most Albanians are very nationalistic and racist, Albanians keep to their own and have a strong European identity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balli_Kombëtar
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Fascist_Party
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg

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Albanians are European. Albanians are white. I'd say it's only Jews doing this d&c but i'd be lying. Plenty of Serbs and Greeks that like to stir up shit.

Yeah, I also find it strange that the only reason people give me is that they're majority Muslims as if religion changes DNA. Meanwhile most of the same people are pro-Assad and pro-Iran too

Because they have a low IQ.

25% of Albanians are ok but the rest are

I mean, you're describing anyone from the balkans now though lol

I love Albanians because they are so important to scientific discovery and technological progress, and arent just white skinned niggers that subsist off of human trafficking and drugs.

The odds to find a decent sample is way higher in the rest of the Balkans than in Alboland

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I think this fag had a rhinoplasty, his nose looks so fake now.

Albanian males are less tall than the average dinarid FEMALE

Manlet islamic shitskins with 80 iq and mafia is to sum up Albanians

Btw Martin shkreli is half croat (half human)

Lack of melanin doesn't make you white. Fucking brainlets just can't understand.

He's full blooded Albanian, google it

Not really. Most of Albanians are normal people. They are just somewhat fucked up by decades of totalitarian communism and insane nationalism that followed it, but that's changing. Kosovo is an abysmal shithole though.
I'm a Serb, just objective.

This is pretty true but again, true of most of the balkans and indeed, eastern europe too. It's like trying to say gopniks are the average russians

Albanian in Italy is used to indicate a criminal

More or less, however few states had such a regime. Hoxha was more akin to North Korean despots than other communist leaders.
However Albania is improving.

Italian in Italy is used to indicate a criminal, who are we kidding?

They are "white" enough, but like much of the Balkans their IQ is really low for Europe, with an average of 90 close to that of Turks than to Central/Western Europe. It's because the Balkans was practically part of Turkey for several centuries. Many Albanians are good people, they're just not really part of the first world. And Kosovo is of course the worst hellhole of the Balkans with all the negative attributes of the Balkans in general and Albanians in particular dialled up to 11.

It's gonna be hard for them. People unironically throw garbage in the streets so that the people cleaning them has a job to do.

No, really. If someone tells you "sei un albanese" he's calling you a criminal

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They are white, but they definitely have that "mafia family" culture going on where I live (Skien).

>pls Amerikans, Serbians are genociding us, gib Kosovo
>pls Amerikans, Bulgarians are genociding us, gib """"""Macedonia"""""""
>pls Amerikans, Greeks are genociding us, gib Epirus

this is their modus operandi

ITT: Albodiaspora claiming Albanians aren't that bad.

I think the most important lesson to learn from these places is that socialist revolutions are a scam.
Although people also tend to confuse social democracy, as we have in scandinavia, with socialism.

WUZ

I personally think people here are dumb as fuck, but whether they are ''dumb'' in IQ sense is debatable. I never saw a proper research about it, that map that is often posted is just fucking bullshit, it's obvious when you see methodology. Maybe IQ is lower, but there's no quality data to conclude anything.
>they're just not really part of the first world
Several centuries of Ottoman rule, followed by shitty regimes (Albania only became independent in 1912), then several decades of Hoxha. It's also a very poor region.
To be honest Albanians (from Albania) are doing okay all things considered.
As for main OP's point, he's right about that too, Balkan Slavs and Albanians are generally similar, and small differences in group here aren't ethnic, but regional.
Northern Albanian and Montenegrin (Serb) are more similar, compared to Southern Albanian or Kosovar.
Meme pictures of either ultra swarthy or blonde people are cherry picked retardation. Those are outliers.

I'd rather have albanians in my country than greeks though. A lot of albanians are hardworking but they have just been so fucked by their former economic system, and corruption is so rampant it's insane.
They practically have a two party system and they are almost just competing in how corrupt they can be.

In Switzerland Albanians are also notorious for being criminal,vile and many of them don't want to integrate.Typical low IQ behavior.

Now I know you're an Albanian. Greeks rank among the top immigrants along with Swedes and Germans

And another thing, both Montenegro and Albania have the history of being semi-tribal societies.
Tribes here developed after Ottoman conquest due to social disruption and huge poverty. Think of Scottish clans for example.
This was destroyed in Montenegro, but it's still somewhat present in Albania. The institution of ''blood feud'' too.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krvna_osveta

Inside the Schengen there are a lot of eastern european criminals travelling to other countries to steal. It's a pretty shitty system for western europeans as we only get the criminals while the eastern european countries get rid of their criminals.

I'd definitely prefer Greeks. At least they have very good restaurants and tend to do better in school. Albo's are notoriously known for their crime, support of pislam and irrational behaviour.

And how many Serbs and Russians do the same shit? How many Sicilian families are set up in other countries all over the world?

I'm actually saying that most eastern europeans who come to western europe are criminals.

They're are white, but not christiam

>In Montenegro, the feuds were predominantly between Montenegrins and ethnic Albanians.
Ignore this part though, this is bullshit. Ethnic component was irrelevant before late 19th/early 20th century. What mattered was religion. This is probably some foreign book that got the wrong idea.

ILLYRIANZ

Muslims.

Many Albanian Albanians are Christian. Kosovars and Macedonian Albanians are Muslim.

No-one said that Albanians aren´t white except for salty 56% mulatto Americans who feel the need to tell everyone else what being white means.

On that Note: you DO have a mudslime problem and you DO have a crime problem. Stop acting like sandniggers and get your shit together! And inb4 "fukc you Germany, Mohammed is rapin ur sister lolz". Yes we are cucked and we LET IN the rapy sandniggers. You on the other hand ACT LIKE rapy sandniggers yourself. Stop it!

Majority "Muslim", sure. But also lots of Christians. Mother Theresa was Albanian

>Ottoman conquest


the Kayi tribe who would latter be know as the ottomans, was promised the byzantine emperors daughter in marriage if they help repel the Serbian invasion. they did this. the emperor dident keep his word and the rest is history :)
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Every albanian I've ever known has been an ally that I would gladly have fight by my side. My best friend who I consider to be my brother, a person I've known for 20 years is Albanian. Albanians are white europeans and have a place any day at the table of our movement

they get eternal whiteness for that one albanian that BTFO the turks so hard that he literally almost took over the entire ottoman empire because they refused to pay him and was only stopped because the other european powers didn't want a rejuvenated ottoman empire

Doesn't explain why many Albanians which were born in Switzerland or came as children still behave like thugs.
And you're telling me that Albania has such a low average IQ despite exporting all their criminals?

>you DO have a mudslime problem
To some extent. Most Albanian Muslims are pretty secular
>you DO have a crime problem
Sure but no more than the rest of Eastern Europe or the Balkans, I'd argue. But Albanians are more stereotyped for it

They need to be more Christian.

there is a difference between albanians and serbs

Serbs were forced with ottoman shit
Albanians embraced it

This we can agree on.
I'd read more about Albanian history if I were you. Many Albanians may have embraced the religion but they sure as fuck didn't "embrace" Ottoman shit.

Because you people are very xenophobic (don't take this as blame or negative thing), and Balkan people form an underclass there. It perpetuates itself.
Ottoman conquest sucked but when you read history, we fucked over ourselves. It wasn't Turkish strength, more our incompetence.

I hear British people say all the same shit about Polish and Romanian people. Yes, Communism is a shit, don't try it.

Met one Albanian at the university. He was as sandnigger as it gets, always carrying a Koran, beard, muslim hat and everything. He even insisted we call him "Abu something" despite that that was not his name.

Skanderbeg?

Both Albanians and Serbs were forced.
Both Albanians and Serbs converted at similar rate, as did everyone here.
Difference is that Serbs expelled their Muslims. What remains of them is in Bosnia (they are Croats and Serbs who converted), and Montenegro.

Because Americans assume every country they've never heard of is brown.

That's a weird outlier, an exception to the rule, not the rule. I could find you an ethnic German like this, I'm sure. Albanians don't take Arab names and act like that.

The only reason he looks white is the fact that his mother is Croatian

>we don't integrated because we don't fill welcomed by you
>muh communism
Communism doesn't lower your IQ.

can you please leave Denmark
Nothing against you but Denmark is for Danish

>implying both his parents weren't ethnic Albanian
>implying there aren't ethnic albanians who look even lighter than him

Just nuke us .but Use a big nuke so it fucks our neighbours at the same time

>Ottoman conquest sucked but when you read history, we fucked over ourselves. It wasn't Turkish strength, more our incompetence.
What do you mean, no support from the west or Balkan infighting?

Don´t know the exact statistics regarding your crime problem but I would agree with you that Albania seems to have similar mafia levels to most of the Balkans and Eastern Europe. However, the fact that on top of that you also are (albeit secular) a muslim majority country is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Sorry pal, that´s the first (crime) and second (muslim) strike, your swarthy, middle eastern looks is the final and third strike. Et voila, you are viewed as shitskins rather than whites by most westerners. Get rid of the first two issues and your image in the world will change dramatically. Being swarthy isn´t something you can change and even greeks who look very similar to you are considered white.

Fucking kebab subhumans with no culture or history,they got a country from Habsburgs degenerate monarchy just to fuck with the winners of 1st balkan war,even their biggest national hero is a serb

sqiptars are barely even human bro

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Open this:
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I am not implying shit, that's by his own admission. I know it's hart to accept it.
Also he was raised Roman Catholic and hates Muslims, so go figure where this came from. Most certainly not from

There are TONS of Roman Catholic Albanians, dude

Yea because Serbia had many great scientists ( Tesla, Pupin), is good at all sports with 7 mil pop, has one of the best math students in the world (again with 7 mil pop), they are so low IQ

There's no "Muslims", only Muslims.

Many Islamic terrorists in the West were weed smoking, whiskey drinking 3rd genners who went from 0 to full Jihad in a matter of weeks, you really shouldn't expect anything different from Ottoman rape babies with a deep seated hatred towards the West.

Albania isn't in Schengen.

>Why doesn't Sup Forums consider Albanians to be white?
Wrong question, any sane person would consider them white.

No, but being raised by uneducated parents who were also raised by uneducated parents does.

cry your little europoor tears
we took kosova
southern servia is next
northern greece then next
macedonia will be ours
montenigger too
pick your shoes up boise
walk around the house 3 times
while ottomans fuck your asiatic wives

we are the real asiatic hordes pusher backer
push the yellow slav back to ching chongville

slice up poland for sweden and germany
give ukraine to lithuania and finland
romania belongs to india decsendants
croatians are persian street trash

ching chong bing bong
fortune cookie

But I'm literally from scandinavian heritage and I am also saying that albania is a shit country.

I do consider them to be White. They have White skin and White features and a White-ish IQ.

I am orthodox albanian unfortunately . This people are all scum and deserve to be exterminated . But more than albanians I hate our fucking monkey neighbours . In the folowing order . Greeks , serbs , italians ,bulgarians , romanians ,turks , etc . If someone has nukes drop it in center please

the fuck did any of those neighbours do to you?

you are the one who is always chimping out with >MUH GREATER ALBANIA shit

Beware of the leaf for it is a shitposter. Hide the leaf threads. Do not respond to leaf comments. RAKE THE LEAF!

Like I give a fuck about borders anyway . I just want this people to go extinct . Hopefully nature will be just and do its job if we dont do it ourself

whoa there my muslim friend
dont take your geert losing aggression on albanains

wait what that?
our royal family is fleeing the nazias again?
deserting their people?

thanks muslim bro
we apparently both love Allah
hahahahahahha

vikings were muslim