How would the election have turned out if it was Trump vs Bernie?

How would the election have turned out if it was Trump vs Bernie?

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Bernie would have won by a landslide. A large part if Trumps votes were "he's not a Clinton votes.

basically this, many people was pro Bernie against Clinton, after DNC fucked up and moved to C, on fence people moved to Trump or just didnt vote.

People didn't come out of the woodworks to vote because they were anti-hillary they came out as pro Trump, yeah there were some "never hillaryers" but not in the numbers needed.

Bernie was pretty close to a literal communist and a communist would not win a general election, he couldn't even beat Hilary in the primaries, Bernie wasn't going to get the minority vote he needed the way Obama did and I don't think he would've taken enough working class votes to make much of a difference.

Bernie can't even debate Cruz, he would've gotten absolutely destroyed in debates with his wackjob ideas, that's why Trump didn't want to debate Bernie, he wanted Bernie to be competitive against Hillary. Trump hardly ever attacked Bernie.

But the real answer is no one knows and no one will know, I just don't see him winning while defending obama care with rising premiums, same flood in the country with immigrants policies as Clinton, and tax hikes across the board for all Americans. Trump would've been relentless on him, the fact that he's never had a job outside of government would hurt his "anti-establishment" message since he is literally the embodiment of the establishment, just with less connections.

I'm happy he got his vacation home though, truly earned it.

Well said!

This. He was just a kike spammed over (((media))) as a litmus test for Jewish Communism. Because only Boomers, beta whites, niggers and spics consume old media, they all fell for the scam. Pathetic.

>couldn't even beat Hillary
Except he did but it was stolen from him

Trump would have won by more

You misjudge Communisms unpopularity in the US.

Bernie would have lost harder than Hillary did.

There wouldn't have been anyone crying how Shilldawg won the "People's vote". because Trump would have landslided Bern.

Basically this

This meme must die. While it is true that the primaries would have been closer than thought if DNC fucked off, he would of not won under any circumstance.

>Bernie was pretty close to a literal communist
What are you fucking retarded, soc dem isn't even state capitalist, which isn't even socialist let alone communist

No, the primary rules are written against uprisers in the Democratic primary because the Democrats are scared to death of having another Michael Dukakis figure like Bernie.

The rules were followed and Bernie lost.

>bernie would have won

I can feel my brain cells die when a bernout says this unironically

He definitely wouldn't have won by a landslide.
Bernie is a one-issue candidate (muh socialism). Whenever he's asked about any other topic, he just spews half-thoughts on the matter.

He would have faltered during the presidential debates against Trump. Trump might have still won too because Bernie is too polarizing to win a nationwide general election. His voice, demeanor, everything plays to very narrow slivers of the population.

>A Zionist Jew vs a Communist Jew

What a debate that would be.

>implying MUH FREE SHIT isnt socialism
all free shit is only achievable with socialism and by extension commie ideals

So his communism is completely optional? If I don't want to pay 90% tax, some men with guns aren't going to arrest me?

there you are MR commie/muslim shill
WB

>having a few ideas compatible with communism means you are a communist
I guess you guys really are all literal Nazi's then?

>Hillary Delegate count without super delegates
>2205

>Bernie Delegate count without super delegates
>1846

Hillary got 600 super and Bernie got like 50, yeah it's fucked but it's not like the super delegates up and stole a won election from him, he lost, he lost more states, he lost total votes, he lost, yeah the mainstream media was all for Hilary and she had her super connections but she had those against Trump as well, the voters of the democratic party elected Hillary and the voters of America elected Trump.

As stated he said up to 90% tax and wanted to just give out all the gibs he could, I'm exaggerating when I say communist but he's close enough to be called one, and Trump certainly would have nailed that to him.

communism is inherently anti human rights in all ways
the ideas only form in a primitive child like mindset
>dude i need free shit from the government im too poor

His honeymoon was in the Soviet Union.

He was a member of the the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA.

He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union.

He headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.”

He put up a Soviet flag in his office in the 80's.

The Communist Party of the USA likes him: cpusa.org/article/bernie-sanders-political-revolution/

The guy is more of a dirty commie than Stalin was.

I don't know about the election but I already see Bernie pissing away about a trillion dollars just by him getting elected.
>but Trump is spending...
He also cut a lot of shit out.

saved for later research
thanks mate

only retards thing that wide spread basic services = communism.

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Dumbass.

>wide spread basic services
nice commie ninja dialect you have there

>basic health care as a right and not a service/ premium is communism

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Superdelegates are an irrelevant distraction. Bernie lost California due to fraud, particularly concerning registered independents (who polled for Bernie).

it is

enjoy paying for my new liver

Way to blow past Dumbass.

READ NIGGER, READ THE THREAD AND PICK UP ACTUAL CONTEXT CLUES YOU FUCKING AUTIST.

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>implying all the Clinton votes go to Bernie

In Germany you have access to healthcare by nature of being there, in US not so much. Anyway, if you don't understand government as a social enterprise from the start, why is it that all government employees get paid by taxpayer money? Why do they get healthcare for free? How is that a purely capitalist system?

you will die on the waiting list before that

nice arguments commie scum

why would I read Sup Forums thin foil hat when the thread is not about whether or not pol think Bernie is a commie

unless hillary died bernie would have and then it would be hillary vs trump again

>talking about health care
>meme is about labor work
orange and apples Ivan

>communism is inherently anti human rights in all ways
>everyone gets what they need reguardless of gender or race
>anti human rights
so you are actually retarded then

Bernie would have lost in the first debate when Trump walked over to his podium and stole his mic and he just stood there bowing his head while Trump spoke during his question

>everyone gets what they need reguardless of gender or race
show me where this part happens in communism?
like i need to have my images back up my arguments with a communist

>image talks about 80 year old russian in communist nation
>implying the USSR was fully communist and not state capitalist
In a communist state there are three requirements, No Currency, No classes, and the Means of Production are owned by the people. None of these existed in the USSR.

>wasnt real communism

Why do communists not understand that humans include problems brought about by countries that are in the intermediate steps towards communism as problems caused by communism?

Bernie is a cucklord. Literally a level 8000 cuck. No chance for him against someone like President Trump. He would have ended up cucking out so bad on the campaign trail (like when BLM stole his podium that time) that no self-respecting human could vote for him. Hell all his voters already look like they are still skeeting dog water.

He did lasting damage against Hillary though amongst his Bernie bros, this is true. But anyone who understands what the fuck a super delegate is, knew he wasn't gonna be the nominee from day one. He knew it. The Bernie bros are fools and losers at the end of the day.

Far more interesting. Having a smug political machine saddled with a corruption narrative + the equivalent of forced meme via the DNC was just enough to give her the loss.

Honestly, Sanders would have made a perfect front for the DNC, guaranteed to veto cockblock Republicans for four years and give Biden or another more hardcore Dem to win the next election.

Instead, they egotripped themselves straight into a Trump presidency and the loss of the judicial branch for a decade or more.

real communism will never exist, you will never reach the utopia. If the men throughout history could not accomplish it, what makes you think any of you could?

>will blame countries that Arent even communist for their poor leaders and natural disasters
>Capitalist systems that perpetuate a form of slavery and poverty including starvation and homelessness somehow isn't capitalism fault
You cant say the problems in these pre-communism states were the fault of communism and then blame the problems in capitalist states on individuals

I think Bernie would have won the youth vote and gotten a better portion of the black vote than Hillary because he didn't have the whole super predator thing hanging over his head. Alot of the people in my age group(early 20s) were Bernie bros, and I'm in the deep south. That is assuming these pot heads would have actually went out and voted.

And your utopia will never be achieved because people like to own stuff.

where in capitalism does it say state controlled means of production
thats socialism

And here it is folks. The obligatory wasn't real communism post that is required in every thread involving communism.

bernie with a republican congress and senate would have been more or less ok.

only problem is supreme court would have been fucked

>hate everyone in political positions
>now is the time to give them total power

i spoke to an IRL "friend" who literally said it to me
i was sickened
he will be enjoying a long lecture next time he sees me

>Bernie loses to Hillary
>Hillary loses to Trump
Bernie basically lost to Trump

>if i call my system something that means its that thing right?
>Democratic North Korea
>Democratic Russia
>Democratic China
>all of these are dictatorships

Like i said you cannot refute what the Idea of Communism states communism is, which is a country where there is no currency, no classes, and the means of production are owned by the people. That has not been done in any country.

t. 19 year old college student

Sanders would have squeezed out ahead instead of Trump. The narrative wouldn't have been "anti-establishment v. establishment", but "good ol' America v. communist Nu-America".

It could have been fun with a Bernie Sanders presidency and a hard-left Congress: more shitting on white men and more gibs and more gun grabbing. We would have learned if the US citizens actually have the balls to refresh the government or be the servile filth deserving of neither security or liberty.

more like 37 year old company VP

What is it with this retarded post?

Bernie likely would have won. His campaign wasn't as strategically inept and wouldn't have largely ignored michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania like Hillary did.

owned by the (((community))) i hope you mean
thats where the fundamental difference lies

>gun grabbing
>communist
even more clear people here dont understand communism and the actual far left. Central left liberals are the ones who are anti gun

Are you fucking insane? He literally could never get blacks to vote for him, he had a huge problem with it in the primaries. It was like one of the more notable flaws in his campaign considering how let it is for democrats to agitate black turnout.

The blacks were coming off the heels of the first black president in history. Like a junkie, they need a new high. Once upon a time a Clinton was the closest thing to a black president the black folks could get, now they've basically been the distance, so that's just not going to cut it anymore. The only way to repeat the black turn out Obama had is to create a time machine and go back to 2008 and run as the first black president. The DNC and their various media arms thought that turnout would actually continue for an old white woman. Insane. And you are insane for thinking they would turn out for an old white (in their mind) Atheist Jew Communist.

>Like i said you cannot refute what the Idea of Communism states communism is, which is a country where there is no currency, no classes, and the means of production are owned by the people. That has not been done in any country.
Ah so it's a fanasty land that has never been tried. Boy I haven't heard that before Ivan.

>muh fairy tale stateless communism
If I jingle some keys, will you shut up?

If you are injured you have access to the ER. I know several poor people who get treatment this way. If the insurance system weren't bogged down by Obamacare, more people could afford insurance thus limiting the amount of people who can only access treatment through the ER and bettering the quality of care received by those still uninsured.

>feudalism is the only way!
>there's never been true capitalism so its a fantasy

I knew alot of blacks who supported Bernie. I was told he was gonna make everything "fair". Also notice I said a larger portion than Hillary, not the whole pie.

That one billionaire former New York politician wouldve ran third party and split the Dem vote because the DNC wouldve sided with their insider

adults were never going to vote for bernie

>You cant say the problems in these pre-communism states were the fault of communism and then blame the problems in capitalist states on individuals
I lived decades under communism and likewise under capitalism. compared to communism, capitalism has no problems.

and remember bernie was never a real candidate. he was hired by hillary to be her opponent. he got a nice lakefront house out of the deal. bernie's iq is in the 70s or maybe 80s

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
it wasnt real communism

Hillary raped Bernie in the black vote, what makes you think he would get more? You think blacks actually respond to the gay commie slogans that the shiddybooty college students like? Fuck no. Blacks vote for who the media and DNC tell them (Clinton) the problem is that the enthusiasm just wasn't there for anyone lighter skinnded than Bronco Barner amongst blacks.

Regardless, it's a metaphysical certainty that Barney would have made a fuck fool out of himself during a general election. Like a ticking time bomb. If you were actually from the south you'd know blacks would never vote for an old Jew atheist in large numbers.

bernie would have lost even worse than clinton

I have a feeling that Bernie would show his ass in economics and lose every debate miserably and CNN, NBC, NYT, etc.... would lose traction and Trump would win in the same way he did before, just more physical votes.

I think pol is overestimating the commies meme on the normal world

It would take some work but you could probably get a better idea by looking at how Bernie did in the primaries in states like PA, MI, and WI. States Trump wasn't supposed to win.
I don't know if Bernie would have won, he might of, I think he would have done better than Hillary.

Can't refute, this is why you are on the losing side.

Trump already lost the popular vote and many people out right didnt vote cause Hillary. so there is no way Bernie would have done worst than Hillary

Lol

bernie would have won, but nothing would be getting done still.

yeah i think you may be right
people seem to like communism
especially young people and boomers are cucked

You're wrong nigger. Only rural and suburban retards voted for Bernie, California is mostly urban.

I don't think bernie would have won, the clinton machine would not help bernie, so the media would be less relentless. Stuff like pussy grab may have never surfaced. All those fake women accusing trump of sexual assault etc.

I doubt there's almost anyone who'd vote for hillary but vote for trump in bernie v trump.

>the black vote

what was that in total? 1 mil?

The Hispanic vote mattered and legal Mexicans who have the understanding of how fucking awful Mexico is, Cartel and Gov, that the tough stance on Mexico is the best option.

Hillary got the Gay, Black, Womyn, and registered sex offender vote.

Trump got the White, Hispanic, Woman, and employed/wanting to be employed vote. He also got the American Family vote.

I really wish that they investigating the 2016 voting fraud and dumped some cash into it. I think its worth the cost to wake America up to dead voters, purposeful miscounts, illegal turnout, and bussed voting groups hitting multiple booths.

Bernie couldn't even make it to Trump vs. Bernie.

His already happened and he lost.

Would be fun to paint Bernie supporters as sexists who wouldn't vote for a woman. Divide the left.

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I'm not sure where you sit politically but I don't feel like getting in an argument about ifs and buts on Sup Forums.

Look into the issues i touched in the bottom line of text in my response to the other dude. Maybe someone can throw the info graphics WITH citations on it, I dont have them saved. Or just some links to decent sites with cited and verifiable evidence.

I don't save much shit anymore, or i would link some stuff.

>it wasnt real communism
in fact we were somewhat worried about that, in the sense that apparently things could have become even worse with time, when real communism was scheduled to kick in.

There's enough fossilized hippies that someone is going to say "akschully".

This country really needs a poll tax.

Bernie would've won CA and NY. All other electoral votes would've gone to Trump.

Bernie would have won all of Maine as well as the Rust Belt, so he would win by a narrow margin.

my grandfather escaped hungary at some point 1960-1980 no idea when and no idea what the circumstances were
both dead and never really spoke about it

What they need to do is this.

>Voting Age 21
18 year olds out of HS aren't mature enough to vote. This isn't the 50s anymore.
>Must have 2 years of verifiable full time work or 3.5 years of part time in the current term to vote in the next
If someone is physically disabled at age 32 because of a real medical cause, exceptions may be made. Crap like that. Obesity isn't a medical cause that would qualify.
>you must register online, by phone, or in person within 5 months before the final month of the election.
would assist against fraud
>no mail in votes
I personally use that system due to laziness and i work. I understand the issues with it though.


Also, any candidate in the General election, even the retard Stein and the other dunce Johnson should have been allowed to participate in the general election debates. This two party corporate debates shit is awful and needs to stop.