Give me one good reason why we shouldn't raise taxes on rich people and corporations to 94% just like FDR did in the...

Give me one good reason why we shouldn't raise taxes on rich people and corporations to 94% just like FDR did in the 1940's.

Because that's fucking stupid

Remember to sage boys

Why?

Didn't he need a war scale industrialized effort to undo his mistakes which made the great recession all that much worse?

Because we are tired of leeches like you who think you are owed something from someone else. Fuck off, nigger and get a fucking job!

>"what kind of country do you think this is"

Because I don't think in the 1940's you could just move your headquarters to Cyprus or some other place with low taxes and not have it damage your business.

Why would a company or rich person stay in such a country and not take his business elsewhere? You couldn't move entire factories to china in the 40s, now you can.

Because punishing people who have shown the greatest ability to reinvest wealth and create the most amount of capital to be taxed and reinvested is retarded.

Its like putting sand bags on world class runners to make them slower and wondering why they suck at the international olympics

we need a real world war and this might work

No one would pay that

Because they'll fucking leave. No more jobs. No more infrastructure. No more capitalism.

That’s the idea.

Theres nothing wrong with corporations paying more taxes so we can have universal healthcare

2 things, the wealthy won't be effected because they have their wealth overseas and generally they are the ones writing the tax codes with the aid of the very same people advocating these higher taxes, and two the world has industrialized and it's trivial for that company to just relocate its operations to a country that won't penalize them for operating.

There was nowhere else to go. The entire rest of the developed world except Canada had been bombed to shit.

Taxation is a unfortunate nessesity which should be minimized wherever feasible. The government should be spending on anything besides what ONLY the government can do, such as national defense

Well then we'll make it illegal for them to leave

should not be, rather

So the goal is to starve to death. Well played, dumbfuck.

Theft is immoral. Also “eat the rich” is bad economics. Inequality is normal and natural in a free market system where everyone can achieve or fail according to his gifts.

You haven't thought this through now have you?

since we live in a global economy now, the companies would flee the country.

Then why do places with universal healthcare have lower corporate tax rates than the US? Its like they make more the more they can tax on increasing wealth rather than available wealth, as if suapplying the ability to reinvest creates greater prosperity than simply punishing those that succeed.

So slavery?

Do you want every wealthy person to take their business to Switzerland? Because that's how you get that.

Two words: Capital Flight

Here, you dropped this

BECAUSE IT KEPT US IN THE DEPRESSION YOU FUCK

marxists want to see everything burn to the ground so society can be rebuilt in their image. they state this openly all the time.

They don't. They have high corporate tax rates

Because they will leave the country with their wealth to a country that will let them keep it.

Because they'll fucking leave the country for Asia, you retard. The only reason they didn't do that back in the day was because there was nowhere better to go. And if they don't leave the country, then they'll put all their assets in tax-exempt securities or gold or something.

Anybody advocating for higher taxes on anybody is fucking stupid.

>i'm 14 years old: the post

Where? Show me an example faggot.

US has the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world.

Give multiple examples to refute his argument you retard.

Scared of true communism?

You're a fucking monster or you're eleven years old. I hope you never get anywhere near political power.

We would just close all tax loopholes, and make it illegal for corporations to go to a different country

>What is effective tax rate?

Lol, why wouldn't you be? You especially would definitely die.

Fuck yes, the working class tend to starve in the communist system. Anyone with a brain is scared to death of Communism, going hungry, being forced to work for free and being afraid to speak against the party is terrifying.

Making it illegal to leave results in taking peoples private property and business Venezuela or Zimbabwe style. See how those economies turned out.

Do you enjoy having a 40% unemployment rate?

You are trolling. Please post dick pics.

There was a multi-front war going on at that time. Have you heard of World War Two?

What is the taking of reinvestible wealth to be given to gibs to burn?

The countries with the best social services have low corporate tax rates becauae the amount made by allowing reinvestment is greater than the amount they can take and give with no generative economic effects.

thanks for illustrating how little marxists know about economics

Because the government is not good with money, do we really need more bureaucrats making $400K regulating the height of mailboxes sold to consumers? The US will be as bad as the EU before long.

No it doesn't
The unemployment rate would go way down if we raised taxes on the rich

>taxes = punishment

If you stop assuming that, then this argument has nothing to stand on. Taxes are paid for things that everyone uses. Everyone pays taxes that they may not use also, not just the rich.

Did it matter after he declared the US bankrupt in 1933 and made us all debt slaves? Picture related.

>We would just close all tax loopholes
They're called "loopholes," for a fucking reason; the vast majority of people don't know about tax loopholes, and anyone who does is using it for themselves. Besides, your efforts to seal up loopholes would probably only make new loopholes.

Assuming you aren't trolling, what makes you think that?

At best it's an argument for if the government is better at spending money than the corporation and the answer is no, the government is terrible at spending money. That's the utilitarian argument. The moral argument is its evil to steal people's money.

wrong

>The unemployment rate would go way down if we raised taxes on the rich

Yeah they'll just stop looking for jobs when they're dead :^) That's the Obama jobs plan.

>advocates for taking 94% of peoples' income
>advocates for imprisoning them in the country that they pay to prop up
>thinks he's not a tyrannical monster

Just straight up kill yourself, my man.

True, but the Constitution had already been suspended since the Civil War. Any way you look at it, we are human resources on a tax farm

>The unemployment rate would go way down if we raised taxes on the rich
Nah, the rich would just shut down the businesses they own out of spite

We USSR now

Go back to leftypol faggit. I’m sorry, not sorry you suck at life.

Because it happened when FDR did it

This is how you reduce the amount of foreign investment and corporations from coming to your country. It's also unfeasible.

Do you really want to live in a society where it's normal the think we have the right to other people's things? Sounds like a great way to start communism. Make everyone believe they're entitled to more and more, which is what the classical American hates.

No, it happened because the government created jobs using the war effort
And FDR sold out the future of the country for temporary economic success, we're still feeling the damage he did

Then we would make it illegal for them to shut down their businesses

>that everyone uses
>Everyone pays taxes
wrong

Then show me an example of a country that didn't see economic flight after mass taking of private property and industry.

It happened in China, Russia, Ukraine, the gdr, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Cuba, and every nation that's done it.

People don't want to produce and innovate for others profits, people don't want their livelihood taken for others ideological beliefs.

History is against you, human nature is against you, and until you show me a successful seizure of economic industry that didn't result in lowering productibe economic outputs you prove yourself wrong.

Because then they'd just fucking move to another country retard.

Why not raise the taxes on everyone to 94%? It'd earn more money for programs like the wall or ICE.

dude stahp

sage

so slavery, but only for rich people?

Because we arent socialists
We arent Communists
We are a free people
Trying to live in a free state
a Rich man already pays more in taxes than a poor man or a well off man or a middle class man.
There is litterally no reason to force buissness and jobs out of our country because some dumb fuck somehow thinks that willl fix anything

Honestly I cant imagine why you would want to give more money to the government, let alone the trump administration, which i imagine you arent in favor of.
We should have less taxes across the board.

We should also do something about classes of people who take more in taxes than they put in.

>What is the Laffer curve?
Learn to ecomonics, holy shit.

Universal health care will be paid for by raising everyone's taxes, not just the corporations'. You'll pay another 5k in taxes when you could've gotten private insurance with a max of 4k out of pocket cost. Simple math shows universal healthcare is more expensive than private healthcare. And also, I shouldn't have to pay for your unhealthy choices

The USSR worked quite well until a nazi white nationalist sympathizer became President and decided to destroy and starve an entire continent.

Its not slavery though

US has highest corporate tax rate in the world

We don't need taxes for things people use because people will voluntarily pay for them. We need taxes so politicians can do kickbacks and scratch their donors/constituents backs by pilfering other people's pockets. Taxation is theft and if think it's legitimate because enough people voted for it you're fucking dumb.

what a waste of digits
forcing people to work against their will, then taking the profits from their work is slavery

>lets tax rich people
>lets also make them unable to leave the country
>also lets freeze their money within the country banks
>and seize the control of their businesses if they do anything funny
at which part do you start talking about benefits of gulags and labor camps ?

That's a great way to get trillions in wealth and capital moved out of America

Because the State would become wealthier, and control us more.

>force people to work at a business they want to close under penalty of fines/going to jail if they quit their job/close the company
>force people to pick cotton in a field under threat of whippings if they don't
Both of those are "force people to work under threat to their well being if they refuse." Tell me how one is slavery but the other isn't.

The Goldman Sachs administration needs to steal more of your money.

Because they are brainwashed from school years to defend the capitalist elite that controls the society.Simple as that.

Because it didn't work then and it wont work now. The Rich used tax exceptions and did not pay these rates as you are to believe. People act like the rich folks just hoard money and stuff it under a mattress somewhere....No, they reinvest it, and this means money going back into the economy. If a billionaire makes 300 million a year, he's going to take that money, and funnel it into new businesses & ventures, which create jobs. Under your fairy tale scheme, people who earn money have less capital to reinvest and thus cause the economy to slow down. Again, the tax rate after ww2 in america was not adhered to by the rich, and i doubt it would be nowadays.

Wrong. The US has the lowest corporate tax rate in the world.
How is that slavery?

You realize that forcing someone to do something and not back out is slavery right? Compensation does not count. Most slaves are compensated with food, room and even stipends.

Only 47% of this country pays income tax. Let that sink in

Because that would obviously crash the economy. You ever heard of the war we had in that timeframe? Maybe that is why they did that, and why the economy boomed after those needs and taxes relaxed.

> he doesn't see that the real evil is the government and centralized authority, it's just those evil rich men selling hamburgers

>trump not paying taxes
He literally paid more in volume and percentage than obama, hillary, and bernie...Fuck off commie.

>How is that slavery?
>You! Comrad! Work this job or go to gulag!
>No you don't keep paycheck, paycheck go to glorious mother state
>You get daily gruel and vodka allowance, get small shed to live in
nah nigga, that's slavery

Nobody believes your blatant lies. Try larping better next time.

Yes but taking most from the people who can produce more than everyone means you have less in the long run.

THEY LEAVE

yes it is, and it's a great idea.