Can I be a white nationalist and not hate Jews and not believe in the retarded Jewish conspiracy theory?

Can I be a white nationalist and not hate Jews and not believe in the retarded Jewish conspiracy theory?

You will be called an antisemite regardless. Good job fag

no hating Jews is more important than eating food, its more important than drinking water.

Why would He be called an antisemite? yeah Faggot.

Because any resemblance of nationalism for whites will be considered a threat to jewish hegemony

Yes, it's called not being a fucking retard.

That sounds like a clear contradiction. You want the survival of your people,and yet you don't hate the parasites that feast on the rotten carcass of this degenerate society,promoted by yet the same ''people''.

Yeah it's called being a part of the controlled ''''opposition''''' aka a fucking tool

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>What only a cut 56%er would say.

no its a package deal jew. you best get to self loathing and eat some pork... thats right... no do it slow . go down on the sausage

Yes.

They're quite unrelated. Many ethnic nationalists celebrate other peoples as good things to have around the world.

Yes. Its the logical position.

Nice own comrade

You can believe whatever you want, as long as you can explain to other people 'why' you believe it, then your views are valid. Liberals/Left will probably call you a nazi anyway, but they'll do that even if you arent a nationalist so who cares.

no you cant.

>not seeing the jew as your enemy
>not seeing the jew as anti-thesis and a threat to your ideology
You just killed any WN movement you were trying to create.

I'm going to need to see some sauce on that pic sonny

It would be like grabbing a mosquito off you and letting it go.

I detect you've had to defend your views from normies.

This guy gets it. You can hate people in positions of power for their actions or secret loyalties. But as for the average Jew? I do agree with the notion that culture deeply influences how people act, so yes I may feel some very slight wariness when dealing with them personally but I'd much prefer the idea of improving my country so it is toxic to their subversive influence than trying to kill every single one of them.

My position (which I have managed to tell to some of those closest to me without being called racist etc) is that i don't believe in a tight knit centrally controlled Jewish conspiracy, but I do believe in a loose network of shared interests that act in a corrupt way and also happen to be disproportionately jewish. I.e. its not an international jewish conspiracy, but an international conspiracy that happens to be jewish. At this point I always quickly add that I don't care they are mainly jewish, in fact I wish they weren't because it makes it very hard to point out their actions without being branded evil. I omit what I say in my previous paragraph, I'm just trying to plant the seed.

Lurk moar, I felt the same when I came to this board - in time you will see that it isn't as crazy as you think. There is a reason they have been "persecuted" for over a thousand years, its not a fucking coincidence that they have been kicked out of nations over 100 times.

It was that list and the phrase "no smoke without fire" that originally made me realise.

Can you be an American without owning a gun?

Yes u can. Just dont be surprised if u change your mind about Jews

You can hate the fucking overlords like i do. But that old Jewish man who lives on the corner has nothing to do with it. Just be cordial with them. Don't sperg out at them, that old man wont have any clue what the fuck you are talking about.

Yes, you can. All you have to do is ignore the stormniggers
>inb4 le retarded neo-nazi "redpillz"

Jews do a good job orgnaizing for their cases and lobbying for Jew srudf. White people should do the same.

The problem with Jewish conspiracy theories is that there's a huge core of truth to them, but a lot of retards choose to extend this to ludicrous degrees, as if Jews are able to control every aspect of everything in the entire world.

Fact is, Jews are disproportionally represented in a lot of areas that grant them power, and yes, they do push multicultural propaganda and practise an extreme form of nepotism. However, this isn't really a conspiracy theory, as they're not actively trying to hide it, because most people choose to be wilfully ignorant of this.

It's when you get into secret societies and Jews controlling every politician from behind the scenes that we get into tinfoil tier idiocy.

mossad dindu nuffin.
hi jidf

> being this retarded

Hello Amar.

Really makes me think

Yeah but Jewish over-representation can be explained by their higher-than-average IQ. Also, I think that Jews are only pushing that shit in order to fit in with the upper middle class, I just don't think that they could force all of this shit on us even if they wanted to.

Also, while were on it, the only "race" that is about to disappear due to race-mixing is Ashkenazi Jews in the US (they have about 50-50 mixed marriages with goys)

Sure you can be a white nationalist without hating jews but almost all jews will hate you for being a white nationalist

>all jews will hate you for being a white nationalist
Even if they did, so what?

So they are my enemy

Because being a white nationalist means you are such an inherent threat to Jewish hegemony that you're a target regardless and nature is cruel so you'll be destroyed if you don't win. Power is a zero sum game.

I don't believe there's some coordinated Jewish conspiracy, but there is a lot of in group preference and nepotism and anti-white incentive that makes for an inevitable conflict. Without the Jew, whites would be openly racist and protecting and propagating their nations instead of fading away.

They can't stop the upcoming avalanche. I see no reason to worry about them

Gujira, but it's a trap.

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>Even if they did, so what?
>why is it a problem if the wealthiest and most powerful group in the world wants to stifle your every effort?

Nigger, you can be anything you want to be.

>why is it a problem if the wealthiest and most powerful group in the world wants to stifle your every effort?
It would be a problem if they wanted to/could, which they can't

If you wanna look at the JQ from an HBD perspective, Kevin Macdonald is your man. Start with the Culture of Critique and go from there.

>Also, while were on it, the only "race" that is about to disappear due to race-mixing is Ashkenazi Jews in the US (they have about 50-50 mixed marriages with goys)

This is something Sup Forums doesn't talk about nearly enough. It's a great point for trolling jews. Imagine showing up at a rally with a sign that says "LOL YOUR GRANDCHILDREN ARE GONNA BE GENTILES" and seeing the response.

You can't do any of those, because you're a faggot.

>Yeah but Jewish over-representation can be explained by their higher-than-average IQ.
Statistically speaking, no. The Jewish IQ isn't that much higher than the white IQ. The most recent estimates of Jewish IQ is around 107, while there are areas in the western world where whites have an average IQ of 105. Germany, before the massive waves of immigration, had an average IQ of 105.
Even if you use the inflated numbers that Jensen collected in the 1970s, white people outnumber Jews to such an extent that their achievements simply wouldn't be possible without widespread nepotism.

There's also the fact that Jews are a parasitic race who can focus their enery into very specific fields and interests. For example, in an average white country, the white population has to fill every role, including farmers, truckers, carpenters and other blue collar jobs, which means the amount of people who can dedicate their time to intellectual pursuits are limited. Jews don't have this problem, as they create a state within the state, and can focus all their energy on what they want. And once they gain a foothold, they can simply keep hiring other Jews. They also tend to move to the most successful countries that grant them the most opportunities, which allows them to take advantage of the systems and power structures created by white people. I mean, it's quite telling that the vast majority of Jews in the US live in California and New York. They concentrate all their efforts into specific fields in specific areas, so that they can outnumber their opponents despite making up a tiny majority. It's like a form of political and economic Blitzkrieg.
Asians are in the process of doing the same thing, by settling in specific parts of the US, focusing on specific careers and becoming the dominant ethnicity in their area.

Jews do have high IQs that have contributed to their success, but nepotism, corruption and manipulation have also played a huge part in their success.

Jews have been mixing for thousands of years. I mean, they're a Semitic race, yet a disproportionate amount of them have blue eyes (mostly due to mixing with Slavs and Germans). Jews still have enough of their original Semitic DNA that you can identify them by looks 90% of the time, but there's no doubt that they're heavily mixed.
I assume that the people they mixed with were intelligent and forced to convert to Judaism, so they've managed to maintain their culture and high IQ, despite their genes being diluted over the millennia.

>Statistically speaking, no. The Jewish IQ isn't that much higher than the white IQ. The most recent estimates of Jewish IQ is around 107, while there are areas in the western world where whites have an average IQ of 105. Germany, before the massive waves of immigration, had an average IQ of 105.
Estimates vary, but for whites, the generally accepted number is 100. For Jews, most figures range between 112-115, with the absolute lowest figure being the one you cited.

>Even if you use the inflated numbers that Jensen collected in the 1970s, white people outnumber Jews to such an extent that their achievements simply wouldn't be possible without widespread nepotism.
I admit, it would be interesting to find good data on this. Even if it is true, there might still be an explanation though

>There's also the fact that Jews are a parasitic race who can focus their enery into very specific fields and interests. For example, in an average white country, the white population has to fill every role, including farmers, truckers, carpenters and other blue collar jobs, which means the amount of people who can dedicate their time to intellectual pursuits are limited. Jews don't have this problem, as they create a state within the state, and can focus all their energy on what they want. And once they gain a foothold, they can simply keep hiring other Jews. They also tend to move to the most successful countries that grant them the most opportunities, which allows them to take advantage of the systems and power structures created by white people. I mean, it's quite telling that the vast majority of Jews in the US live in California and New York. They concentrate all their efforts into specific fields in specific areas, so that they can outnumber their opponents despite making up a tiny majority. It's like a form of political and economic Blitzkrieg.
But Ashkenazi Jews are doing fairly well even in Israel, which is all Jewish

1/2

2/2
(also, keep in mind, only Ashkenazi Jews have high IQs, Israel has lots of different groups of Jews, and most of them have a low IQ)

>Asians are in the process of doing the same thing, by settling in specific parts of the US, focusing on specific careers and becoming the dominant ethnicity in their area.
Yes educated upper middle class people tend to congregate in certain areas. There is a correlation but it could just be caused by the higher IQ and resulting difference in socio-economic outcomes

>Jews do have high IQs that have contributed to their success, but nepotism, corruption and manipulation have also played a huge part in their success.
It is certainly possible, but is there some kind of solid data on this?

Yep. It's called being a huwhite advocate.

>Estimates vary, but for whites, the generally accepted number is 100
No. If you look at tests that specifically test whites, and not entire countries, you'll notice the IQ tends to hover around 103-105. IQ has dropped by about 2-5 percent in Europe since the early 90s, due to immigration, and the whitest states in the US tend to have IQs around 103-104.
The highest estimates for Jewish IQ were made back in the 70s, and are grossly inflated. These are based on the same tests that show that the Chinese had sub-100 IQs.
Most contemporary IQ testing of Jews lands them at about 107. Most of the difference between whites and Jews aren't even related to the number itself, but the type of IQ. For example, compared to their overall high IQ, Jews have low spatial intelligence, while whites have high spatial intelligence. This is why you see so few Jews and so many whites in engineering.

>I admit, it would be interesting to find good data on this. Even if it is true, there might still be an explanation though
Just do it yourself. It's easy to calculate how many people in each ethnic group end up in the various percentiles. Granted, the different races have different deviations and distributions, so it's hard to get exact numbers, but a ballpark estimate is easy enough.

>But Ashkenazi Jews are doing fairly well even in Israel, which is all Jewish
No, they're not. They're doing well enough, but compared to their parasitic western brethren, they're nowhere close to achieving the same success.

this but unironically

No..

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>Yes educated upper middle class people tend to congregate in certain areas.
No, they tend to congregate in urban areas and suburbs across the country. Asians are all concentrated in a handful of cities.
In Canada it's Toronto and Vancouver, where whites have been reduced to roughly 50% of the population.

In the US, it's San Francisco, LA, Seattle and New York.

I'm actually googling this right now and found a map that shows their distribution across counties in the US. It's strange to see how overrepresented they are in certain areas compared to their population.

>It is certainly possible, but is there some kind of solid data on this?
It's verboten to study this.

>imypling the Netherlands were a state in 1444
also, >Moscow, 1891

>No. If you look at tests that specifically test whites, and not entire countries, you'll notice the IQ tends to hover around 103-105. IQ has dropped by about 2-5 percent in Europe since the early 90s, due to immigration, and the whitest states in the US tend to have IQs around 103-104.
IQ tests are normed in such a way that the average is always 100. That means that if you bring in a lot of shitniggers, that would raise the white IQ scores compared to the average without reflecting any real increase in intelligence. TL;DR I'm not convinced by your figures

>The highest estimates for Jewish IQ were made back in the 70s, and are grossly inflated. These are based on the same tests that show that the Chinese had sub-100 IQs.
>Most contemporary IQ testing of Jews lands them at about 107. Most of the difference between whites and Jews aren't even related to the number itself, but the type of IQ. For example, compared to their overall high IQ, Jews have low spatial intelligence, while whites have high spatial intelligence. This is why you see so few Jews and so many whites in engineering.
Latest figures I can find are from 2006 and 2010, and they give 110-115 range for Jewish IQ.

>Just do it yourself. It's easy to calculate how many people in each ethnic group end up in the various percentiles. Granted, the different races have different deviations and distributions, so it's hard to get exact numbers, but a ballpark estimate is easy enough.
It would be a huge amount of work to gather all that data from all those different fields and analyze it per-capita and adjusting for IQ. I just don't care that much

>No, they're not. They're doing well enough, but compared to their parasitic western brethren, they're nowhere close to achieving the same success.
No? AFAIK Israel is doing fairly well, at least as far as Nobel prizes are concerned. But then again they also have a lot of subhuman low-IQ Jews in Israel

Yes. That's what I am basically

its just a crazy conspiracy theory goyim

the jews own hollywood, 5 out of the 6 big news networks, the new york times, washington post, slate, vox, the banking system, the federal reserve, the irs, and all the porn industry.

its just a coincidence they are super smart and progressive people

No
You cant hate them for no reason when there are so many good reasons to

NO, shlomo..

Do whatever you want. You'll be left scratching your head as to what happened to your white nationalist state in the end.

Dont forgot the largest websites in the world and other major tech ventures!!!

You have to be a rural and suburban retard to think this is just a jewish conspiracy. It's not just jews and most jews aren't a part of it. Jews in general have some bad qualities many of them sure, all races have problems. They are over represented in politics and banking and the media and etc to the point where over half the people who seem to be in power in the west are jews, sure.

But does that make this a "jewish conspiracy" where "jews" do it all because "they're just jews". No, it's a problem with evil people in power, many who happen to be jewish.

And has it occured to you that these evil people in power might want you to blame "the jews" in such a broad and generally useless sense.

stop hiding flag faggot

>IQ tests are normed in such a way that the average is always 100.
I'm aware of that, but the questions is, how often do they do this, and what is the norming based on in the contemporary world? Europe? The entire world? If it was the entire world, whites would have an IQ well above 100.
Regardless, there have been plenty of studies that show how the IQ has dropped in Europe. There have even been articles written about it here in Norway.

>Latest figures I can find are from 2006 and 2010, and they give 110-115 range for Jewish IQ.
And I'm looking at a study from 2010 that shows 107. 107-115 is also the commonly accepted range.

>It would be a huge amount of work to gather all that data from all those different fields and analyze it per-capita and adjusting for IQ. I just don't care that much
Not really. If you want a ballpark estimate, it's not that hard. Per-capita doesn't matter, or even make any sense.

>No? AFAIK Israel is doing fairly well, at least as far as Nobel prizes are concerned. But then again they also have a lot of subhuman low-IQ Jews in Israel
They're dead average when it comes to Nobel Prizes per capita. Hell, Norway has more, and we have a considerably smaller population.
Granted, Norway has existed longer than Israel, but it's still fairly even.
There's also the issues of standard of living, and Israel doesn't show any signs of brilliance. Even with the arabs and low-IQ Sephardic Jews, the large number of Ashkenazis would still be able to rule the country like Gods if they had an average IQ of 115.