- Why do they hate Poles so much - Why do they threat Poland like enemy and Russia like best friend?
*Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a great empire and the golden age for both nations. We had huge territory, we had hussars, we were what usa is nowdays => every human and religion was welcome, Kings law was above religious laws. In other countries they were pretty much killing people of other beliefs. We were the first one in the world to start Royal Elections.
Nowdays Lithuania keeps throwing shit at Poland, they force Lithuanians of Polish origins to change their surnames. They close Polish schools, they oppress the minority. Yet its the polish f-16 who patrol Lithuanian sky and its probably only Poland who cares about Lithuania being and independent state.
Lithuania depopulation is sooo huge that in 20-30 years they will either have to ask to become part of Poland to preserve their heritage or they will be annexed by russians.
Because you have been opressing them for ages. Let the Lithuanian girls alone.
David Baker
Polish soldiers in days of Commonwealth forced people from Lithuania to vote for their cause under bayonets. I wonder why they hate such polish behaviour. They should just attack you like we did when you tried your bullshit elections in our Silesia back in 1918.
Justin Moore
make winged hussars great again
Daniel Morales
>- Why do they threat Poland like enemy and Russia like best friend? completely wrong? lithuanians hate russians way more than polish people.
>They close Polish schools, they oppress the minority i'm sorry Zbigniew but it looks like you've been brainswashed
>how dare they try for cultural unity in their own country, they should accept OUR culture And you're wondering why they hate you
Ryan Flores
See what this oppressing is leading to? Young Lithuanians don't want to identify as hatefull Lithuanians anymore, all they want to is to run away from it
Nicholas Young
Or maybe the aging baby boomer population is just dying off right about now? Really activates my almonds.
Nathan Sanders
>we were what usa is nowdays WE WUZ KANGZ
Oliver Young
Balts are shrinking way faster then other countries though.
Asher Morgan
Now kiss each other.
Evan Campbell
Because we had the biggest growth at the time as well
Lincoln Ramirez
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Wyatt Stewart
Lithuanians are butthurt because they got rekt by Slavs, Poland especially. That's all.
Jace Foster
"In May 1409, an uprising in Teutonic-held Samogitia started. Lithuania supported the uprising and the Knights threatened to invade. Poland announced its support for the Lithuanian cause and threatened to invade Prussia in return. As Prussian troops evacuated Samogitia, the Teutonic Grand Master Ulrich von Jungingen declared war on the Kingdom of Poland and Grand Duchy of Lithuania on 6 August 1409"
Poland engaged in war and stayed loyal to Lithuania. They didn't get wreckt they were a brother nation to us
Jace Hernandez
>Why do they hate Poles so much Because history, you have baad blood with them >and Russia like best friend? Where did you get this? They do not accent the Russian Question so much because they don't have a Russian 5th column in their countrly like we and Ee do.
And also fuck off with your WE WUZing about the commiewealth, it will never come into being again.
Aiden Russell
And who called for Northern Crusades again?
Colton Turner
Surprisingly not a single Lithuanian participated in this thread.
Just angry Estonians and Latvians.
Joshua Hughes
This is a deflection.
Lucas Collins
Calling a small order and giving them one holding in Prussia to fend off invading pagans wasn't supposed to end up like this.
Aiden Kelly
>- Why do they threat Poland like enemy and Russia like best friend? >Russia like best friend? Did I miss something?
Colton Sanchez
no one is shrinking faster than us
Noah Sanders
Huh? I thought you guys were buddies on the level of Finland and Estonia?
Easton Turner
Literally false.
Jace Rodriguez
A large kingdom at the time couldn't fend off unorganized tribes and had to call for foreign aid to oppose them? And why call upon the only Christian chapter that has ever been cast out of a Christian nation for heresy? It's amost like you are attempting to whitewash the fact that your country called well known mercenaries and dirty hands to aid in laying claim to Baltic lands. They destroyed all holy sites and built Churches on top of them, and later monopolized collection of amber on the Baltic shores, and if cought one would get executed for it.
Christopher Barnes
I have Lithuanian ancestry. They fled the commies in the revolution. Unfortunately I have absolutely no way of knowing any relatives still living in the country.
Caleb Gomez
Zmudzin here. AMA.
Julian Gray
Maybe because Poland transfered most of Lithuania's territory to them and marginalised them in a union they were supposed to be equal in.
Nicholas Jones
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Jordan Martin
>All this LARPING Lithuania was a SLAVIC Belarussian state. Z*udzins have nothing to do with it. Pic related: Gretest Belarussian of all time Vitaŭt Kiejstutavič.
Jackson Morales
>Lithuania was a SLAVIC No
John Brooks
Noone was marginalising anyone. Just because Lithuanian elites prefered to turn Polish in the past doesn't mean they were forced to do so. The same thing is happening today. There is no influence from Poland forcing Lithuanians to become Polish. They just want to preserve their Pol-Lit Common ancestry and not be forced by Lithuanian gov to deny part of their heritage.
Connor Evans
>90% of inhabitants are Slavs >not Slavic
Jackson Lewis
Fair enough, they did still have their own autonomous zones. The Belarussians and Ukrainians were subjugated by the Lithuanians. Like China in regards to the Manchus and Han.
Juan Baker
the point is that we hate russians more than you folk, i for example dont hold a grudge against any of you because i didnt live in the time of wars n shit. the thing about schools is fake and propaganda by your countrymen, we allow those schools to exist but they must pass our language exams anyway. so the pole minority literally speak 3 languages english lithanian and polish.
Brandon Lewis
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Luke Anderson
Lithuanians are ethnic Baltcs who also happen sto speak one of the 2 remaining Baltic languages. And the only place in the Baltics where they tried to enforce Slavic language use was in Latgale from 1880s to 1904. All it achieved was illiteracy in that region skyrocketing and many revolts against the Russian Empire.
Jason Smith
>subjugated by the Lithuanians and that is why all documents were written in Ruthenian
Nathan Moore
This guy gets it. Fun fact: Belarussian Grand Duke Aльгepд almost conquered Moscow a few times.
Josiah Robinson
Belarusian*
Samuel Scott
the thing about history is that we praised the times of the commonwealth, but when ww1 came and u invaded bcuz wilno is ours was fkin a shady stab in the back. it was never yours. me for example i dont hold a grudge cause that mistake was made by communist/nationalist infused poles. we must honor the good days and forget the bad ones
Jack Gomez
Because of historical reasons, Eternal Polacks attacked their pagan prussian brothers first and then them, also Polacks invaded Lithuania and took Vilinus. that's why.
Austin Nguyen
>and forget the bad ones This would set the said things to happen all over again at some point.
Matthew Sanders
True, thats what Poles hope for. Kids in school are learning about COMMON Lithuanian&Polish history. We learn about Figures that were both Lithuanian and Polish, not "just Polish".
Its important that this relationship turn into friendship once again asap before Russians put their hands on baltic states
Jaxson Russell
>Lithuanians of Polish origins to change their surnames. That's not how it works >They close Polish schools, they oppress the minority waaah waaah we don't want any
Aiden Wilson
Are you a Litvak or a Zmagar?
Tyler Hall
Nice proxy faggot
Parker Williams
Based Lithuania.
Poland is shit.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Are you +15?
Jackson Lewis
Restore Prussia please
Christopher Robinson
Here's a map of the original core territories of Litva. Notice how it's all within the territory of modern day Belarus. All cities have Slavic names.
Lincoln Green
This Eastern Euro have their minds all screwed up in a more hardcore way than Mormons do.
They really identify with what was going on 500 or 1000 years ago.
David Long
>Polabs beksteb us, teik our lend >Belorusiuns stiil our hisdory Nau dey yus proxi to call us slabic..
Ayden Harris
>Nowdays Lithuania keeps throwing shit at Poland fake problem and exaggerated
>they force Lithuanians of Polish origins to change their surnames exaggerated
>and Russia like best friend? literally WHAT? It's more like the polish minority treats Russia as a friend, this is why Lithuanians are suspicious
>Kings law was above religious laws as in every country?
>In other countries they were pretty much killing people of other beliefs that happened in every country?
>We were the first one in the world to start Royal Elections and you think this was better than a stable, hereditary monarchy?
>They close Polish schools, they oppress the minority It's exaggerated
You create a fake problem to justify political activism and to pretend that there are serious problems in Eastern Europe, as in the West. Nobody gives a shit about EE, problems there between countries are minor
Jayden Campbell
>litva Opinion disregarded and discarded
Jordan Perez
>They really identify with what was going on 500 or 1000 years ago. this
this is a serious problems with Polacks. They lack proportions and distance, they think they're still that country of the 17. century which had spectacular wars and battles, and the army had nice armors. They are certain, they're one step from becoming as strong as when this Union existed and they think pride in history will replace those "meaningless" 200 years that passed by between the death of the country and today's world. Polacks are a post-imperial nation and crave attention from Westerners, because they admire them very much, although quietly
>Proxy Estonian or Latvian detected nawet gdybym był Estończykiem albo Łotyszem, to chuj z tego? Liczy się tresc
ja po prostu znam historię Polski. Rzeczpospolita się rozjebała i koniec, żadnych nowych unii nie będzie, bo Polska została wyparta do granic etnicznych, piastowskich, i dobra, ja tam mam w dupie jakichs Rusinów i Litwinów
Ethan Wright
My great-grandmother was lithuanian. I'd love to visit Lithuania someday. Are lithuanian girls pretty?
Cameron Rogers
>A large kingdom at the time couldn't fend off unorganized tribes and had to call for foreign aid to oppose them? Poland wasn't united back then. It was just one duke, who couldn't deal with pagans.
Sebastian Brooks
Someone actually gets it.
Asher Wood
"The Lithuanians' smaller numbers in this medieval state gave the Ruthenians (present-day Belarusians and Ukrainians) an important role in the everyday cultural life of the state."
Henry Clark
LIVONIA IS BALTO-FINNIC WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIEET
Ryan Lewis
>convert to cuckstianity >join the germans to fight against Estonians They deserved extinction desu
Leo Russell
IIRC, they allege that they were underrepresented in the Commonwealth.
Lincoln Rivera
It was one duke who thought that the germans would stay fucking loyal to the agreements he made under god. They fabricated the documents, shown the pope and got recognized.
Luke Foster
Such a jewish statement, why don't you have lithuania on that survey?
Christian Scott
Are Poles Germans who got SLAV'd or Slavs who got GERM'd?
Dominic Davis
this
Nolan Sanders
Czechs got German'd, and nations within the Austrian Empire
Jacob Stewart
Hello polish expat tell us your " real history".
Brayden Bailey
>Lithuanians of Polish origins to change their surnames. They close Polish schools, they oppress the minority. >Polish schools
Last I checked This country was called Lithuania. No one is oppresing you Faggot
Jonathan Jones
>Prussia >White
Nolan Davis
Lithuania threatend poland? I tought we were borthers
Ian Morgan
Neither you retard
Owen Sullivan
Don't listen to this cancer, it's all fake news
We were, are and always will be brothers
Archive thread now
Daniel Hernandez
Because the written Lithuanian language didn't exist when the first statue was written, Ivan.
Christian Ramirez
Absolutely, but they dont date blacks, so hard luck, pal
Owen Ortiz
>Hur dur dur why they close school with 36 pupils in it and force them to go to bigger almsot 1km away das racist! Well schools are closed everywere due to lack of students dont be salty We are cool with polish as long they dont mention wilno, litterally belorusians had more "claim" tobit than you
Owen Campbell
~The quarrels of lovers are the renewal of love~
Eli Brooks
No one has any fucking claim in Vilnius. Baltic tribes always inhabited these lands. Poles and Ruthenians are immigrants. Multiculturalism - successfully destroys nations since 1260
Hunter Rodriguez
That is my point lad
Eli Anderson
Wilno being Polish is a meme, only retared untermensch neo nazis believe it
Sage it instead of responding
Nathaniel Johnson
So as I say we should stop argue, we have common history of 500 years, same religion traditions and etc. Even AK and nazi lithuanian battalion fighters had forgiven each other Also i personally like Poland
Benjamin Collins
I hate shituanians with a passion
if Arabs ever jihad on those fuckers in my lifetime Im joining up with them.
cuz fuck pooland this pseudo nation of cowards and idiot bastards arent going to do anything.
Jeremiah Turner
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Logan Clark
>Even AK and nazi lithuanian battalion fighters had forgiven each other
Thats just how the cookie crumbles, you often end up on different sides
I have a lot of respect for Lithuanian SS (there was no Lithuanian SS) If you're Polish referring to the nazi collaborators than know that they killed Polish civilians in the Vilnius region.
Blake Russell
Are you fucking retarded? You know jack shit about the PLC idiot.
Jaxon Edwards
Dude we havent SS bc authoritys wasnt dumb and wanted to spare man rather than let them die in front, still moat of thoae men was kill in guerella warfare
Logan Hughes
And I forgive them
Kevin Bailey
Also you can count that Lithuania refused to attack northen Poland and take Vilnius then krouts asked to do it while they was attacking you in 1939.
Christian Cook
You are pretty bad, but Lithuania and Latvia are worse. Decline from peak. Bulgaria - 20.7%. Lithuania - 22.4% Latvia - 26.5%
>A large kingdom at the time couldn't fend off unorganized tribes and had to call for foreign aid to oppose them? Nigga, Poland was divided into competing duchies for like a century. Duchy of Masovia was constantly invaded by the pagan Prussians with it's capital burned down three times. Kondrad I got sick of it and sought help from the Teutons, but it turned out to be a great mistake.
Adrian Adams
What you gonna do. But we will overcome it without bringing in human trash.
Brayden Sanchez
By the way. Intermarium when?!
Hunter King
Why would you want to join that? It's literally a federation owned by Poland.