Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1634

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>it has been a few years since I went to America.
That would be
>アメリカは数年間行っていない
or
>アメリカから戻ってから数年間が経っている
or something similar.

In Japanese, times take に or no particle at all when they're used as adverbs, to describe when an action takes place or for how long.

数年前から is still valid in other contexts, though. For example 数年前からの手紙, a letter from a few years ago.

スレテーマ　→　youtube.com/watch?v=nPF7lit7Z00

I started reading Ranma 1/2.
It's very easy, but the quality is pretty bad.

It will do for now.

i like when the boy gets boobs

also im still partial to my dx7

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What are some good untranslated games (besides VNs)?

Just play Tales of Destiny PS2 like I told you to.

thats basically a vn maybe he doesnt want to play a text heavy game

山田さんがアメリカの大学を卒業してから５年になりました。

Eh I just asked again because yours was the only reply. I'd like to look at my options, you know?

ハースストーン

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Nice reading comprehension.

やまだは大学をでてからはたらいてないの？

I could think of some 3DS games too, like dragon quest or detective pikachu.
But I don't know if you own a Japanese or hacked 3DS.

Oh shit my bad.
I only ever play VNs and a handful of games.
I doubt you'd be interested but I liked to play Hyperdimension Neptunia in Japanese.

Not that guy but any recs?
I'm currently playing DQ7 and have Metal Max 4, GameCenter CX 3 or whatever, Time Travelers, and Detective Pikachu.

ミラノのアルバイト

I also played Fire Emblem: IF, Pokemon ORAS and Bravely Second.
I also tried some of the free demos in the E-shop. like the new Etrian Odyssey.
SMT:IV Apocalypse is probably good but I haven't played it.

If I learn to read and speak Japanese from computer resources (anki, Tae Kim, VN's, manga), how am I eventually going to be able to write in Japanese?

Should I learn to read/listen/speak in Japanese first and then go back and learn stroke order for every kanji/kana, or should I somehow try to learn it side-by-side?

It's really hard to learn japanese without accidentally learning how to write the kana.

For kanji, you can do a crash course for a week when you're fluent, and spend a hell of a lot less time on it than if you learned writing on the way there, because you're way less misguided.

you don't need writing

>Tales of Destiny

Fuck that. Play the superior, best Tales game instead.

Here we fucking go

As soon as they make a ps3 emulator.

>ps3 emulator

You can just get a used PS3 for less than a $100 you know

Well, there is a fan translation and an Xbox version, so untranslated doesn't really count.

>Scamco

To the Anki haters...

You. Yes, you. The one screaming, "It's a waste of time!" and DJT lied to you!" and other slurs I dare not mention.

Tread lightly.

You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority. I don't feel awkward or anxious using Anki around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world of studying Japanese language which has been made easy for them - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. Anki fans may have their differences, they we will not hesitate to come to the aid of their fellow learners, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.

Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.

I pity you.

I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that Anki is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful learning too. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.

I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall your childish anime porn games, start up Anki and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of your first batch of cards, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.

who is this

That's pretty good money. I would rather just play something else for free.

>without accidentally learning how to write the kana

What did you mean by this?

Even if you don't try, the time and exposure it takes to learn japanese means that there's an unreasonably good chance you'll end up learning how to write the kana and a few simple kanji. Just because.

He's full of shit. Don't worry, you won't learn how to write even the kana no matter how good you're at reading.

That's true, but it'd be pretty statistically impossible to correctly learn the stroke order for every kana just by reading. After being able to read proficiently, I'm sure I'll be able to remember each kana and draw it, but not with correct stroke order.

And then kanji, that's a different story. You mentioned it'd take a week to learn stroke order for most kanji? I was thinking more like an entire year with pretty serious studying after I become proficient in the language

Will I have problems if I learn kanji only in writing but not in speech? Only need it for reading right now but I'd want to learn to speak and write some day.

ねつが３６度９分だよ

せきもでるけどげんきだよ

I don't mean with perfect stroke order, but I do mean sensibly. For example, I still write あ with the first stroke last. That's an incorrect order, but it's still sensible. The same is true of all the other devious stroke orders I picked up.

You'd have to intentionally learn incorrect stroke orders, or willfully ignore the whims of your stationery, in order to learn totally insensibly stroke orders for the kana. You'd have to be very unlucky, or try really hard, to not notice or hear the overarching general approximate guidelines there are to stroke order, for basic kanji, too. It just takes too long to acquire the language, with too much exposure to the community at large. That's why a week crash course would work.

ざまぁｗｗｗｗｗ

No, learning to speak in kanjis is absolutely necessary to learning nipponesian.

What retention percentage should I am for if I'm doing 20 new cards and approximately 200 reviews a day?

Someday I will play this.

You don't aim for a retention percentage, you accept a retention percentage.

>回答
>解答

What is the difference?

OK, in other words, what is a good retention percentage for 20 new cards and 200 reviews?

Anything above 75% is acceptable, anything above 60% means you're learning, anything 50% or lower means that anki is basically wasting most of your time spent on it

95%

回答 かいとう 質問・要求などに答えること。また、その答え。
解答 かいとう 問題を解いて答えを出すこと。また、その答え。

I know, but I'm not going to be speaking right now. I'm focusing on learning kanji and grammar so I can be ready as I can for P5. Once I know grammar I can just use a dictionary. Problem is I can recognize kanjis meaning by sight, but I couldn't say the kanji. If I then try to learn the pronunciation later will it be very hard?

>85-90%
Guess I'm good then, thanks.

>If I then try to learn the pronunciation later will it be very hard?
only if you invent a fictional reading and repeat it your head every time like an idiot

I invented a fictional writing system, does that count

not him btw

Nah, it's just a mnemonic to help and the meaning in English. Don't know how to say a lot of kanji.

only if you disguise it as a font question and fool /djt/ with it

おうどんたべたい

あせでべとべときがえたい

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Can I get a sauce on this Kanji?

haven't thought of that

is that what happened here

面 you idiot
go back and do your drillbooks over again

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How's your communism mug doing?

>anything 50% or lower means that anki is basically wasting most of your time spent on it

So if you are around 50%, does this mean you're not studying with anki the right way and need to change your approach to learning with it? Or does it mean you should lower your new words/day count?

Or does it just mean you suck and should kill yourself?

>Or does it just mean you suck and should kill yourself?
This

>tried to read coppelion a few years ago
>couldn't understand shit
>headache from trying to figure out what was happening
>gave up after 1 volume
>probably took me 8 hours to get through it

>tried reading it again today
>no dictionary look ups at all
>understand everything
>read 4 volumes so far at 90 minutes per volume

>tfw i stuck with it and actually became fluent

Instead of reading manga for babies, you should read some about bitches being bitches

Why isn't Hanahira in the list anymore?
tlwiki.org/?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes

I wanted to know how many unique Kanji it has.

all you need to know is that 1 girl was preg as fuck

If you can't read this, you will never get a job in Japan

Yes, the bar is low

事務所
What is this, a N5 quizz?

事務所？

sorry i skipped all the useless words and just learned cool shit like 灰燼と化す

ユダヤ人に我がチンチンを投げる

>the day is almost over
>still haven't done my reps

Good excuse to quit anki and watch anime with all the free time you get

Thanks for reminding me, ファム輩

All memes, hate and everything aside, how is Wanikani?
I'm not getting it, but has anybody on here actually tried it? Is it any good at all, or is it complete shit like I expected it to be? Is the limit thing I've been hearing about really a thing?

I'm actually really curious.

I always do my reps at 2am two hours before the day is over.

Did you remember to watch 12 episodes of anime today?

Picture is what I'm watching right now while shitposting here

Just deleted Anki after attempting the core deck for a week.
My memorization is really, really bad, having to remember 20 or even 10 cards a day is too much. I always do it at the end of the day too, so I feel like shit as I go to sleep when I see the ~50% success rate. I'm not even sure if deleting Anki was the right decision, but I was too pissed off at the time to care about it.

Guess I'll try and learn the vocabulary another way..

STOP with the FUCKING stealth marketing you fucking faggot

it's a less customizable anki designed for people who need to experience some sort of sunk cost before they can be motivated to do anything

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Been using it lightly for a few years now. I actually love it.

But then again, I'm trash. Level 10.
>years
>10

ねつあがってきた

あたまぼーっとする

Post hanzi grids

>forgot to do my reps in the last 9 months

In a scale of 'there's still hope' to 'kill yourself', how fucked am I?

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what answer exactly are you looking for here or were you trying to be "funney"

Did you watch anime for 9 months? If not, you are fucked

Do drills, write the same character over and over again, like a couple hundred times. But without somebody to give feedback on your stroke order and penmanship you will not advance that fast. Taking a community college course is a good way to learn very solid basics like writing, the first part of any Japanese college course is teaching you the kana and how to write them. Absolutely not worth taking a course if it's not taught by a native though.

There's nothing funny about literally over 9000 reps to do.

I did. Read manga and LNs too.

does anyone here use iptvs?

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きぶんわるくなってきた

あけそう

what

だから寝たほうがいいってば

It's literally only useful for people that can't learn japanese.

Haven't touched that deck in half a year. Gotta get back to it soon though.