People "investigating" the Mandalay bay shooting are missing a very obvious conclusion that explains so much of what is currently happening: The Las Vegas shooting did not go the way the elites intended it to go AT ALL. Vegas was not the intended target and whoever the shooter was (at this point I am assuming it was Paddock, but I'm not sure) was acting as a Rogue Agent. Why do am I so sure of this?
1.The media reaction to the story. The same people that woudn't shut the fuck up about Sandy Hook for years after are now trying to move on to talk about other things.
2.The Jesus Campos thing. For fucks sake how desperate are they?
3.Someone very high up, higher up than the usual suspects, is cleaning house. Or at least is dishing out some serious punitive measures to whoever is behind this. The Weinstein thing, the recent threats of pedowood becoming a widely accepted theory, and now the new reports of Clinton foundation and Russia. It's as if someone is gently smacking the domino table and watching the dominoes shake as if to say "look how easily this all could fall." It's not a coincidence.
The the thing we should be doing is following the money. Where did Steven Paddock get all his money to gamble away? it obviously wasn't his money he was gambling with. We figure that out and we can have a better picture of what happened that night and more importantly, what was supposed to happen.
what was the point of shooting at a country concert? just random? cause it makes it seem like a left leaning motive
Tyler Long
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Chase Watson
I don't believe this because it was the day before 9/11, and the larper was a month off. And the metal detector shit is easy because after 9/11, the TSA shit happened. And also the fact that expensive casinos and hotels will never have metal detectors. Are you that retarded?
Jordan Smith
It was not their plan. They most likely planned to target a rap concert. Either paddock or someone else just went ahead and did it for the hell of it (intranational black ops operatives are probably not the most mentally stable of people) and what you are witnessing is the fallout of that action.
Joseph Wilson
What I'm saying is that this was literally the LEEROY JENKINS of mass shootings.
Jonathan Long
why was he wearing gloves?
Hudson Rogers
why was he dressed almost exactly like Dexter? what did he mean by this?
Camden Stewart
The Ceo of Mandalay Bay sold off 80% of this stocks between July and September.
>CIA supplies guns to Paddock >Paddock finds sellers through his wife in Phillipines >Paddock meets with buyers in room as planned >Buyers kill Paddock on sight >Buyers take advantage of the situation and shoot up concert (Possibly meant to distract a hit at a VIP @ JANET) >Buyers shoot Campos while trying to flee >CIA can't admit it because they are responsible for the guns >Paddock takes fall while terrorists are interrogated or killed
Noah Howard
To protect his hands from the impact of the automatic weapon, but you would think you would take them off before firing a revolver into your head.
Mason Young
>1.The media reaction to the story. The same people that woudn't shut the fuck up about Sandy Hook for years after are now trying to move on to talk about other things. Indeed. That silence speaks volumes.
Nathan Sanchez
>Why do am I so sure ok OP
Jaxon Allen
That's actually a good way to describe it.
Sebastian Walker
I zoomed in on the picture but I can't figure out what is going on between his hand and his leg is that another rifle he fell on top of?
Xavier Hughes
whoa nice connection. Didn't notice that before.. could give a little insight about his frame of mind if true.
Carter Richardson
But after every other school shooting so far nothing like that had happened before. Also the guy specified that it would be LV casinos to include the new backscatter machines, and lo' and behold, look what they are now installing
Parker Jackson
It mentions Las Vegas specifically
Lucas Hall
You dont sell weapons to people fully loaded with tons of ammo. It's just a bad move. Also, why would the buyers go there to get all those guns and then just leave them there? Whoever they work for is going to be severely pissed.
Obviously the narrative is bullshit, but the arms dealer theory just doesn't add up imhotbqhfam
Brandon Morgan
He does say tomorrow in the beginning but he also said it may not be. If he would have said a shooting would occur in a major city I would be more skeptical but he specifically said Vegas. Choose to believe what you want but he seems pretty spot-on in my opinion. Can you refresh my memory of another larping that was this close?
Hudson Gomez
That's the only strong point of the LARP. But Vegas is a major city where crazy stuff happens and of course there's Fallout which Sup Forums loves.
Leo Allen
Not an arms dealer. Would never have ammo in the same room as a gun sale for obvious reasons.
Juan Reed
Dont let this slide! Front and center! Is always about control and money! Next 2 weeks are going to be a doozy! Thats all i can say
Zachary Sanders
Paddock was a CIA pilot and gun runner. Anything you find on him has been fabricated by THEM. Not even confirmed it was his body-another maintenance worker named Luis something looks like the dead guy more and IS dead. Paddock may be a CIA ghost whose name was used to rent rooms, cars, buy guns, etc. but was not done by him. This whole "event" was a team effort. There were even crisis actors hired who played dead with fake bullet holes but some real people died. SOMEONE closed and locked the exit gates from the festival grounds which herded the crowd where they wanted. SOMEONE turned On the lights so the shooters could bettr see the targets. The singers did not use the mikes to warn people to run-they just hid out themselves. One estimate is there were at minimum 50 field agents working on this terror plot including the Saudis one floor above room 32. Now people are starting to be killed or just disappear. There is NO honest police work being done-that Sheriff is in danger of his own life I believe.
Christian King
>following the money. Where did Steven Paddock get all his money to gamble away?
That's a reasonable argument.
It could be anything from a cartel/terror hit, a treasonous political attack, or a failed federal sting. Regardless, the dude didn't act alone.
Jose Bennett
>i can't guarantee anything will happen tomorrow but Vegas is on there minds
I don't know, pretty fucking (((coincidental))) no?
William Young
>left leaning motive Of course it was. Nobody gives a shit when niggers die.
Hudson Reyes
nothing major happened on 9/11/17.. then he mentioned a major degenerate city where a shooting happened almost a month later
so what?
Robert Cruz
FBI man said they believed that Paddock planned on escaping. This throws a kink into my believing that it was something more than a rich gambler believing or betting someone that he could pull off an enormous mass shooting and get away with it.
Parker Morris
Jesus Campos was the 2nd shooter, kills paddock, takes a shot at the door walks outside, shoots himself in the leg, throws the gun inside and closes the door, lays on the ground outside and waits for someone to find him.
William Davis
>There were even crisis actors hired who played dead with fake bullet holes.
I'd like sauce on this, haven't heard of this before.
Adrian Thomas
couldnt the buyers have brought the ammo?
Jack Bell
Campos is an illegal immigrant using someones SS number. He should have NEVER been employed by Mandalay, much less as security. MGM employs thousands of illegals and they can't afford this to be known.
Landon Evans
you know i think you might be onto something
Kevin Wilson
I definitely think the Weinstein thing and the Vegas shooting are related
Isaiah Rogers
Okay there is going to be a high incident shooting in __________. Could be tomorrow or in the very near future. Let's think about how many cities you could choose from and then what the chance would be that you are correct. You think about which cities would have the biggest impact or best opportunity to inflict harm. Why would Vegas be the first place you choose?
Jacob Cruz
Absolute garbage. A team of people would have racked up 100+ kills at least. I've seen all the "hurr two shooters" videos and to me it still sounds like it's coming from one place.
Connor Baker
Its pretty weird because he supposedly loved country music.
Kevin Bailey
Why Vegas?
Jew money stronghold. Affect citizens for many states/countries Unusual behavior is the norm. Underworld. Comps
Samuel Thompson
>Paddock may be a CIA ghost whose name was used to rent rooms, cars, buy guns, etc
This. Campos is an alias too.
Jace Morales
REMINDER >paddock worked for the government auditing defense contractors >paddock worked for a subsidiary [front company] of Lockheed Martin >Lockheed Martin is a major defense company famous for ultra black projects, check out skunk works >last years of his life no one knows what he did for a living >made millions gambling at casinos >set up his sniper nest overlooking JANET terminal >JANET is basically spook airways, flies employees to all the black projects in the desert like Area 51 and others
So we have a guy who worked most of his life in the defense industry, led a secretive life, lived right around the area that all the black sites are located, and somehow made millions 'gambling' in casinos.
I'm telling you this guy was eye deep in deep state shady black ops shit. NO ONE just goes a fucking makes millions gambling at casinos, forget the fact that he was knee deep in black projects.
Ryder Robinson
youtube.com/watch?v=fBIBXtpIMpo the first responders surround the area to secure the area from independent observers, they do not interact with the crisis actors, the crisis actors “save” themselves do photo shoots, while the first responders guard the perimeter and don’t get involved directly in the hoax, they are told to “stand down”. If this were a real event the EMT’s would have to declare the dead, as per Nevada law, not the police, proving this to be false flag hoax. Multiple shooters are just an ARG to make you think the shooting actually happened which it did not. These is no evidence of people being shot or bullets hitting the ground despite thousands of cameras.
Grayson Allen
Well it didn’t happen on 9/11. It happened on 10/1. It was late. It said it wasn’t for sure going to happen but it still happened. In Vegas. Involving a large crowd. High incident project. All you idiots and shills trying to say that it was just a lucky larp and there are bound to be similarities can die in a fucking crematory oven. That’s too much for cohencidence. We should be openly killing ashkenazi jews in the streets out of protest. Somebody has to pay
Xavier Cruz
Dude half predicted it. That's enough to make me stop and think. Than that John who suicided with a shotgun to back of his head is making me think hard
Ryder Barnes
Number 3. You are very insightful. The 2017 FBI is recruiting smart young people like you. I hope they find you because you are very bright.
Asher Gray
more new stuff
Jason White
>leftists want to disarm the population and make billions in security contracts >hire CIA faggots to stage a hit in Vegas to create outrage, support for banning guns, and support for legislation awarding security contracts >CIA uses Paddock as a bridge to recruit Muslims from the Philippines to stage the hit >Mandalay bay serves as the staging area for the hit and serves to distract police while other operatives move around Vegas hitting other targets >something goes wrong during the op >Campos realizes the op is fucked, tries to escape, and gets shot >attack from Mandalay is carried out to salvage some of the plan >Paddock is then murdered and left in the room to be used as a patsy >attackers escape and blend into the crowd >CIA uses influence to cover it all up
Soros, and his ilk, win again...
Carson Robinson
We don't know who the targets were. For all we know the concert goers were collateral damage while the real targets were being sniped. We will never get the full story. The plan may have been to cause as much chaos as possible but perhaps we had response teams neutralize the biggest threats.
Joshua Flores
Why does paddock pay 369 grand cash for a house and write a check for 14 grand for a shitty little car??
Carter Green
18 or so unarmed “martyrs” arrive in Vegas staying at different MGM properties including Mandalay Bay days before the shooting. They may have been new “ISIS recruits” from the EU, but were not professionals. Their plan was either 1) to participate in numerous shooting events simultaneously like what happened in Paris strictly for the terror, or 2) take violent control of MB property creating a huge hostage event with potential WMD threat for the hotel and/or city.
The stairwell fire door was blocked open to allow martyrs to descend from upper floor hallway into stairwell, through door and into 32135 with absolutely NO VIDEO capture.
Logan Cox
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Matthew Cooper
It's a tourist place. A degenerate crazy place where wild shit happens.
This is a main reason why I don't believe multiple shooters. 58 sounds about right for one old guy with a few "automatic" rifles from a hotel across the street, for 15 minutes that he supposedly shot for. If he was trained, he could have got over 100 kills.
The reason he stopped shooting is the biggest mystery.
Eli Garcia
Shillen hard.
Charles Phillips
what is the actual point here? other than, fuck that's expensive?
Ryder Gonzalez
The body in the suite (Paddock?) didn't shoot anything or anyone.
Campos was one of a few that were to meet and disperse from there with weapons.
Ethan Myers
Seems not to be a larp.
Evan Jenkins
Thousands of rounds? Do you have any idea how heavy ammunition is?
Robert Sullivan
who the fuck spent 200k on meme booze?q
Asher Nelson
Erick Comped Paddock is connected to Sarah Brady who is corporate crisis actor pimp for a crisis management firm youtube.com/watch?v=DZ34acAZkig
Bentley Richardson
kill whites
Jacob Myers
>Than that John who suicided with a shotgun to back of his head is making me think hard That was a sorcha faal article. The John guy really did kill his disabled daughter and then shot himself in the front of the head but had no connection to the Vegas shooting. Sorcha faal is satirical disinformation
Blake Lewis
Omg you guys are soooo naive ...this is ISIS shit.. They’re covering for it because like everything that happens they had a ‘heads up,’ like the guy John posted...they don’t act before anything happens cause they’re lazy fucks who never solved any major case..this is tied up with Philippines ISIL, and you guys just keep chasing ya tails over this Campos rube.
Nicholas Hernandez
I'd still be unclear on the motive if it was in fact the CIA or Elites. It doesnt nesescarily take a terror attack to pass legislation; they just add taxes, regulations, etc. in a short clause to a bill that's completely unrelated and it gets signed
Caleb Miller
ISIS is so yesterday.
Dylan Ward
The Wynn
Xavier Brooks
>Bud Light..............$10.00
Jonathan Butler
Exposed Leaked Phone Call - Sara Brady - Vegas Shooter's Family Connected to Crisis Management Firm youtube.com/watch?v=LviT4JrssRg
Kevin Morris
What if Paddock brought all those guns to his room for a gun deal? What if he was a black market armsdealer? It doesn't make sense to bring that many guns, even if they were back ups in case one or two of them jammed in the heat of a gun fight. The guns must have been for someone else.
Why hasn't anyone compared the handwriting on his ballistics notes to his handwriting everywhere else yet? What if Paddock thought it was going to be a gun deal so he would use his connections to get the guns inside, but was murdered instead they used the guns to carry out the killing whilst framing Paddock?
Austin Morris
Thank You, Director Aaron Rouse we'll now hand you back to Sherruff Joe, who Doesn't Know
David Hall
I've been had? Fuck me. I banish myself to reddit
Cameron Morgan
Um no! I posted this on the other thread, Paddock and ties to Philippines...
“By Carlo Muñoz and Guy Taylor - The Washington Times - Sunday, May 28, 2017 Western powers and media outlets convulsed in shock at last week’s horrific suicide attack on a pop concert in Britain, but little attention was paid to a surge of violence by the Islamic State on the other side of the world — specifically in the Philippines and Indonesia. Dozens have died since a Southeast Asian faction of the organization also known as ISIS and ISIL raised its black flag over a key southern Philippine city on Wednesday, the same day that a double suicide bombing since claimed by the terrorist group rocked the Indonesian capital of Jakarta. With terrorism analysts having warned months ago that the Islamic State could surge in the region as it lost territory in the Middle East, U.S. intelligence officials have expressed particular wariness in recent days over the group’s push to hold territory in the southern Philippines. “ISIS has publicly accepted pledges from various groups in the Philippines and has called on followers in Southeast Asia to go to the Philippines if they cannot travel to Syria,” said one American intelligence official, who spoke with The Washington Times on the condition of anonymity.“
Jonathan Gomez
What people investigating this are missing?
Jace Jackson
>multi millionaire old fuck lugs 23 guns up to his room
no. Gun deals are brokered without guns and ammo present. guns are shipped from warehouses to warehouses, you never actually have the guns there.
plus why was there so much ammo?
it wasnt a gun deal
Eli Reyes
This this this
Matthew Russell
10/01 :: 10 plus or minus 1 is 9 or 11. It seems pointless to look for these kinds of patterns. John "high incident" guy was vague on the date anyway.
Jayden Richardson
Yeah their were more then Paddock involved in this....on the ground ...they probably punked out driving that car of explosives into those tanks so Paddock could make a getaway
Samuel Hernandez
You should try goggling a jewtube before speaking moron
But it takes a false flag terror attack like a Las Vegas 9/11 to trick the US into launching a world war to destroy Iran+North Korea for Israel+Saudi Arabia.
yeah. imagine being the buyer and the seller wanting you to do an exchange in a hotel on the strip on the 32 floor. Doesn't make sense at all. Way too much risk all around. Everyone involved would be too worried about the situation.
Leo Roberts
The types of guns used needs to be looked at if that information is even available. Way too much emphasis has been placed on the fucking bump stock. I’ve read that thousands of rounds were fired. I can’t find the exact number. Even if the stock functioned properly, (they never fucking do) putting that many rounds that rapidly through a run of the mill blued steel barrel would cause the mother fucker to literally melt. I’ve gotten my .223 red hot from less than 100. Now the media is throwing a fit about a missing $600 Ruger bolt action 308 like it’s some big key. It would take fucking days to pump that many rounds through a fucking bolt action and the barrel would warp beyond functionality way before that. There’s also no amount of mag swapping possible that could make this happen. All of this is fucking wrong. There was either a group of shooters or someone had some serious stationary firepower set up like a M134.
Jacob Young
"thanks for the purchase. Now you have to disassemble all of these firearms and package them up in separate suitcases fitting 2 or 3 in each. Hope to do business again"
It's a stupid ass theory. It seems that almost any other location would be more ideal than that
Ryder Reed
And Brian Hodge, who rushed to the world media with his harrowing tale of being in the room right next to the mythical "Paddock," just happens to be a "Special Events Producer" for an events marketing company.
Bentley Sanchez
I think we are missing the bigger, more evil picture CIA wanted this to go down like Bataclan 2.0 Instead if ISIS, blame Hezbollah - (((their))) current worst enemy Either FBI or Blackwater got in the way of the op Otherwise, narrative was to be "those bad Hezbollah attack Murica - we're gonna kill them" Moar Zion war ensues, as desired. Start from there and work down to the minute details
Xavier Jones
you also don't do it in an exclusive suite at a fucking casino. Maybe you have a "business meeting" to discuss the deal there but the actual physical exchange?
Parker Sanchez
I'm sure any gun runner or undercover would think they were going to escape any kind of ambush as well. Starting to look like it's connected to the casino directly with Campos working for the casino and the hotel hiring him directly without seeming to have any registered record in the state as security. Paddock was either laundering money or running guns. He wore the gloves because he was showing the guns and didn't want his finger prints on them. Campos is part of the group as an insider, he's managing the hall, but spooks Paddock so paddock on camera not knowing he's with the people setting him up, he starts firing hits campos. Campos retreats and goes to the elevator to distract people away, he supposedly was even down on the 29th floor at some point.
Once Campos is hit, the whole mission is rushed, they know they aren't going to get the guns, but they still have their escape plan, or possibly even another room registered in a different name they quickly escaped to in disguise. They kill paddock then shoot out the windows and start firing to create enough of a panic for them to distract most the police and forces on the ground, and wait for the all clear from Campos.
Campos was being dangled as bait, hence why he looked scared shitless, and it worked, so now campos is in custody while they continue to wait for someone to try and contact them, saying he "disappeared".
They did say they believed they had the suspect in custody. I haven't seen campos walking free at all in any of the days before, and the only pictures he has 4 large guys surrounding him and looks terrified.
Just a theory
Austin Diaz
I think the Islamic State theory has some plausibility. IS has claimed him four times now, which largely departs from their MO (although they might be lying or mistaken). His actions seem like a terror operation. Paddock scoped out various targets. He tried to shoot the fuel tanks to blow them up but failed. He also may have had a baby monitor in his room which could stream content to a device. Police also say he intended to escape, and had a gas mask in the room. His car had guns and 50 pounds of fertilizer chemical which can explode on impact. This seems more like a terror operation than a gun deal gone bad (explosives in car?). I think Jesus Campos is laying low because he might have helped Paddock use the service elevator, which is embarrassing, even though he might have in someway interrupted him. It can't be the FBI or CIA because if they were so amazing at pulling this off, why not have a motive to show? They even say he had no brain tumor. Those are all easy lies. I don't think it was a gun deal or an inside job. Either he was crazy, or he was part of some network like Islamic State.
Jason Watson
Would explain some of the other reported shootouts on the strip that night. Perps trying to get away from the cops.
Isaiah Bell
What if Paddock was /ourguy/, got tipped off that some mudslimes were going to arm up at that hotel and wreak havoc all across Las Vegas, so he breaks into the hotel before they can gear up and realized the only way to stop the guns from getting to the baddies was to shoot them into the crowd, ultimately killing less people and undoing tons of planning on the terrorists side of things
Jonathan Flores
100k for a 2500 dollar bottle of wine? That's a bit odd.
Liam Thompson
One thing I know for sure is Paddock (if that's his real name) was shot. Either before or after. But you don't bring 23 rifles with you and set up multi-angled cameras on your 6 just to end up shooting yourself.....in the chest
Isaiah Allen
Yeah, thanks. You should read this article...folks and you’ll see your espionage game theories don’t apply to this motley crew...FBI should be dissolved
Michael Wright
>shoots himself in the leg gunpowder residue
Cameron Brown
Please fuck off
Colton Russell
Fuck off with the crisis actor shit.
Colton Cox
WHAT IF PADDOCK IS OUR NIGGA AND WAS TRYNA SHOOT THE THE DUDES SHOOTING INNOCENT CIVILIANS
Nathan Murphy
The service elevator requires no authentication and is unsecured. He would’ve needed no help with it.
He planned to escape so....if motive was part of the plan they would of built paddock a background
Jace Wright
JANET is a cute.
Michael Price
You’re right this is too big for some 2 bit gun running. He had accomplices on the ground...they didn’t do their shit. Like the sheriff first said..he didn’t do this alone, had way too many guns for one guy, wires money abroad, take cruises, the wife says she didn’t have contact In 20 some odd years but she and her brother Kurt Okamoto managed his Texas properties in 2004...on an on