Is unironically being a national socialist in America the most cringe worthy thing possible for an american after being pro socialism? >welfare based government >germany tried it and got fucked by commies within 6 years >also never became a world power >also never went to space >also never developed atom bomb kek >were also wrong about blond hair blue eyed ppl being superior (see: Sweden)
oh and also, it's a leftist ideology.
I've been through the natsoc phase in my life but thats all it was, just a phase, im sure many of you will grow out of it when you consider the values america has (capitalism, democratic republic government, free market) is what made this country the greatest in the world. Take natsoc with a grain of salt, it's really only good for the memes.
>oh and also, it's a leftist ideology. Still stuck in the left-right paradigm tho? Sad.
Jack Brown
Name some of the Welfare programs in National Socialist Germany.
Noah Gutierrez
the left right paradigm is how we compare and contrast ideologies based on what they have in common. >still think political ideologies should be grouped together tho? Sad.
Austin Perry
Easy, rent supplements if you couldn't afford it just because you were a nazi. No different in subsidized housing for niggers here in america, looks how great its worked out see: chicongo
Jeremiah Morris
the only welfare i would agree with from natsoc was the interest free loans for married nazi couples because it played in favor of furthering the white race but all other gibs are just asking for self destruction.
Asher Campbell
>welfare based government Terrible. It's clearly better to let our people starve.
>germany tried it and got fucked by commies within 6 years What are you on about? 1933-1945 are twelve years. 1941-1945 are four years.
>also never became a world power We were a world power during those years
>also never went to space 90% of the space program of both the Soviets and the US were based on our technology and developed by our scientists. Are you being retarded on purpose?
>also never developed atom bomb kek Yes, let's wipe out whole cities and almost destroy the entire world through mutual destruction kek
>were also wrong about blond hair blue eyed ppl being superior retarded old meme. A lot of the people in charge, including Hitler, didn't have blond hair
Robert Campbell
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Jason Brown
>welfare based government The state will supply necessity for purposes of efficiency. There is no need for a market of health insurance or water, we all need them. >germany tried it and got fucked by commies within 6 years Twice the world faced them and it was close >also never became a world power During those six years they were the power >also never went to space No but Vaun Braun was the architect of the program's vessel that went the moon.... >also never developed atom bomb kek They were two years off. >were also wrong about blond hair blue eyed ppl being superior (see: Sweden) You simply do not understand the philosophy on this one. Hitler loved the French. 5/10
Anthony Perez
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Lucas Moore
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Ian Evans
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Sebastian Price
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Jason King
>no need for a market of health insurance or water spoken like a true commie with zero economic sense. >for purposes of efficiency well if you say it will be efficient it must be so. why didn't communists try to be more efficient? communism would have worked if only somebody had told them efficiency matters.
un-fucking-believable
Ryder Miller
>Terrible. It's clearly better to let our people starve. You really are all the same, huh?
Noah Myers
>its clearly better to let our people starve. this is somehow bad? if someone cant produce enough to survive for themselves why the fuck would you want those kind of genes breeding children? so they can starve too and take hard working peoples tax money?
>1939-1945 should have clarified i was just referring to the war, forgot i was talking to a kraut
>we were a world power during those years you were never a world power, ever. one nuked and your country would put its balls in a jar for us like japan did.
>90% of the space program of both the Soviets and the US were based on our technology and developed by our scientists. Are you being retarded on purpose? those scientists we're EX-nazis. Ex nazis you fucking nigger, the only reason they had the opportunity to in the first place was because they came to a place that actually had freedom. Tell me why didnt they do it for germany? are they such traitors to their cause where they only wanted to devote their intelligence to americans? the answer is they're either cucks or were only able to use their talents in a country that didnt practice natsoc, and fortunately for you in this sense, its because of the latter.
>Yes, let's wipe out whole cities and almost destroy the entire world through mutual destruction kek you dont need to use atom bombs if you have them, look at russia for example, their arsenal is the ONLY reason they are a world power today. Perhaps those german scientists couldnt understand the political implications of having such technology, who knows.
>retarded old meme. A lot of the people in charge, including Hitler, didn't have blond hair not a meme, read mein KOMP, hitler actually believed aryans were superior, Sweden should be controlling the world right now if that were the case.
Carter Robinson
see this communism and natsoc are very similar desu, no wonder they are leftist ideologies, when the hell did the meme start where they compared this garbage to right wingers?
Carter Peterson
>its clearly better to let our people starve. >this is somehow bad? Yes.
> if someone cant produce enough to survive for themselves why the fuck would you want those kind of genes breeding children? so they can starve too and take hard working peoples tax money? If someone is willing to work but can't find a job under the capitalist economy, the government should give you some job that is useful to the nation as a whole.
>should have clarified i was just referring to the war, forgot i was talking to a kraut The war with the soviets started in 1941, I forgot I'm probably talking to a race-mixed mutt.
>you were never a world power, ever. one nuked and your country would put its balls in a jar for us like japan did. You do know that nukes weren't invented until after the fall of the last Reich?
>those scientists we're EX-nazis. Ex nazis you fucking nigger, the only reason they had the opportunity to in the first place was because they came to a place that actually had freedom. Tell me why didnt they do it for germany? are they such traitors to their cause where they only wanted to devote their intelligence to americans? the answer is they're either cucks or were only able to use their talents in a country that didnt practice natsoc, and fortunately for you in this sense, its because of the latter They built rockets for us and after our defeat they were forced to build rockets for you.
>look at russia for example, their arsenal is the ONLY reason they are a world power today. Again, nukes are a post-war weapon. The third Reich didn't exist by the time they were invented, so blaming us for not having them is beyond dumb.
>not a meme, read mein KOMP, hitler actually believed aryans were superior, Sweden should be controlling the world right now if that were the case. Aryan =/= blond hair blue eyes.
Nolan White
>also never became a world power Conquering Europe didn't count? Was brief, and they bit off more than they could chew, but come on...
Christian Richardson
>democratic republic government >capitalism >free markrt >values
Nigger these are means. They arent values. And the democratic government, of any form, was a raging mistake.
Benjamin Nguyen
>being this dishonest
No one was saying dont use compaisons. But the left right paradigm has been fundamentally misunderstood. The paradigm os base don the French revolution, with the right being rolling back the nonsense of liberty, equality and fraternity, the center being the early days of the revolution, its founding philosophy, and the left being the full expression durring the French terror.
Kevin Bailey
INB4 Nazi economic boom lies, it was a keynesian debt bubble so large that would make the Democrat party blush, put entirely into rebuilding Germany's completely non-existent military industry.
Imagine if modern America had the opportunity to recreate it's military industry from the ground up overnight?
Nathaniel Williams
E C O N O M I C N A T I O N A L I S M
(OP) >hearty huwite guffaw
Joshua Hall
Yeh nah. Look at the debt to GDP ratio, it was much lower than most modern first world states. The economic recovery was also well underway before rearmament began.
Jacob Anderson
>"H-heil Hitler..."
Joshua Johnson
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Isaiah Walker
>Yes. nice explanation, seriously why though? they are the literl niggers of society and you want to promote this even further? it's just self destructive, a man who's capable of working to earn his dinner will work for it, and if he doesnt then he's just killing himself.
>You do know that nukes weren't invented until after the fall of the last Reich? ah so its someone elses fault that germany lost the war? really cultivates my cashews
>They built rockets for us and after our defeat they were forced to build rockets for you. why couldnt they build one for germany? why couldnt they play the war smarter? why were they 2-3 months off from when america developed the nuke? you guys got outsmarted by americans desu
>race mixed mutt 99.9% slav, im probably more white than you
>nukes were a post war weapon post war because you guys fuckin lost to commies, kek thats embarrassing really.
>not blond hair blue eyes regardless if thats their defining characteristic or not, we all know the aryan meme is just a meme to divide whites.
Aiden Powell
>t.loser
Christopher Lee
because it was financed with a currency the government created out of thin air, idiot
John Roberts
>>welfare based government Only bad when it's abused by niggers. >>germany tried it and got fucked by commies within 6 years Learn your dates, retard. >>also never became a world power Wrong. >>also never went to space V-2 rocket was the first ever man made object put into space. >>also never developed atom bomb kek They actually were the ones doing early research into atomic particles. >>were also wrong about blond hair blue eyed ppl being superior (see: Sweden) Not an argument.
Get fucked, you degenerate kike.
Adrian Green
You're on a board of all races. I'm willing to be 90% of them are larping as Nazis. Remember hwndu? New york Sup Forumsacks are especially diverse.
Caleb Ortiz
>welfare true natsoc will get rid of people that are on welfare >got fucked by commies because they had more men than they had bullets >never became world power on par with america >never went to space they got closer than you ever could in 1930's/40's >never developed atom bomb they almost did
Dominic Russell
>>never went to space >they got closer than you ever could in 1930's/40's Just a reminder that the V-2 rocket was the first man made object in space.
Gavin Lewis
and those pathetic lost the fucking wars
Luis Richardson
>implying capitalism isn't a debt based system You know nothing of economics. Do you go to a car dealership and buy a car outright for $30,000? No, you put down monthly payments. Same with your house, your phone, and lots of other things. You're in debt and you don't even know it.
SAD!
Ian Hernandez
Yes, OP. Yes
Gavin Miller
>first man made object in space >most advanced weapons of the times >were only beaten by sheer numbers >"b-b-but you lost!!!"
Wyatt Hill
>muh V-2 yeah, and Bongs curb stomped all that rocket facilities. lol
Caleb Cook
>made most advanced weapon >as a result Berlin got fucked
Lincoln Gonzalez
NSM is a controlled group just like the KKK. Also this is a retarded thread.
>implying white Sup Forumsacks would get themselves doxxed at retarded social gatherings
Kayden Rogers
The Nation is specific.
If you celebrate Kwanzaa, Ramadan, Hanukike, poop-worship like Hindus, or be a pushover and get Communismed by Jews like post-Rapist Khan Buddhists...you can do those things way far away from the Christians.
And the Christians made Americas, Europe, Australia and all the Island in between. Christians are even winning Africa after years of secular social experiments i.e. genocide.
Elijah Peterson
>welfare based government no >germany tried it and got fucked by commies within 6 years some US gernerals said that they should have fought against the commies >also never became a world power yes it did >also never went to space operation paper clip, yes they did >also never developed atom bomb kek the uranium that was used in the americans bombs was taken from a nazi base
Hudson Gutierrez
strawman
Landon Ward
>b-b-but buildings were bombed!!! Nice argument, retard.
>b-b-but a city was invaded!!! IQ of 9.
It's the truth. Prove me wrong.
Connor Wilson
ya, fuck natsoc
Lucas Stewart
Natsoc is the logical end for white nationalist thinking . The race is the reason for the existence of the state, .... ,national socialism
Liam Ortiz
Which NatSoc policies do you disagree with *exactly*?
Colton Bailey
kek holy hell you should really consider suicide. jesus christ is my lord and savior you fuckin edgy 19 year old, see your way to the gas chamber. >Only bad when it's abused by niggers. i bet you're fuckin poor, stop taking working peoples tax money for gibs nigger
>learn your dates, retard 1939-1945, you guys got fucked by commies, i understand its upsetting.
>wrong nope, not a world power.
>the v-2 rocket was- look mom i threw something really high into the air! talk to me when you land on the moon
>they were akchually- yep, no atomic bomb, and to date still no atomic bombs, its literally the current year! i mean come on! kek thats fuckin sad desu
>not an argument but it is, aryans control fuck all in this world and are only good at letting muslims fuck their countries up through invasion which they openly allow.
get fucked, you cringe inducing lefty.
Lucas Myers
>It's the truth. Prove me wrong.
Why would I prove you straw manned me? I stated quite plainly why the Nazi economy was a sham, they had the opportunity to rebuild their entire military industry from nothing, in the process employing most of Germany.
To further add insult to the injury, the socialist decline lasted long enough to see Hitler, a despotic dictator, micromanaging the economy. This is not different than Western nations, however since he had absolute power there is every chance the "reich" would have declined into a socialist shithole.
Matthew Allen
Bingo!
Dominic Green
Socialism. Nationalism is only useful in moderation too.
Noah Bailey
I asked OP.
Brayden Mitchell
kek all the nazi fags comin out to play, how cute. the whole "but nazis were the ones who were forced to build an atom bomb so we did build an atom bomb :'(" stance is fuckin pathetic. you can also say that the only reason germany was great was because countries like netherlands, belgium, poland, france, denmark, greece, were forced to listen to them after they were conquered by germans.
Why can't you explain which NatSoc policies you disagree with?
Levi Sanders
see this:
Mason Cooper
What about Socialism do you disagree with?
Eli Nguyen
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Benjamin Gray
>What about Socialism do you disagree with? ???
Justin Rogers
>i bet you're fuckin poor I hear the same shit every day from Applefags on Sup Forums with 2 year contracts. Maybe you should use your enormous wealth to sign up for English classes.
>1939-1945 You've proven my point. The NSDAP was in conflict with communists since the 20s.
>muh moon Nice goal post shifting.
>and to date still no atomic bombs Because Third Reich fell in 1945, dumbass.
>aryans control fuck all in this world and are only good at letting muslims fuck their countries up through invasion which they openly allow Sup Forums screeches about the jews all fucking day but not once have you ever stopped to look at who runs the world governments, banks, and film companies, or really much of anything beyond your own nose.
>Why would I prove you straw manned me? Stopped reading there.
>It isn't an incentive based system. Learn the difference between Marxian socialism and other forms of it.
Connor Brown
How so? In Hitlerian Socialism every who can work must or they don't eat. Further, the work one does must benefit others in some way. National Socialism is not Bernie Sander's (((socialism))) or Marxism but a term for what should be common sense: the financial system should serve the people, the state should serve the people, the people should serve one another.
What is there to disagree with?
this
Isaiah Harris
lofty ideals, yet it ends up a keynesian capitalist economy declining into straight socialism because they were dumb enough to give a single man absolute power and he spends his time micromanaging the economy.
Bentley Bailey
>yet it ends up a keynesian capitalist economy declining into straight socialism You're simply wrong.
Samuel Diaz
unsubstantiated claims by the zealot, oh say it ain't so
Christopher Anderson
>because they were dumb enough to give a single man absolute power Hitler mae Germany wealthy in 4 years. WW2 was fought solely because Hitler fought what we today called the NWO. >pic related Leaders fail today because of an outdated system of democracy.
Michael Morgan
>Hitler mae Germany wealthy in 4 years.
Only because he violated international treaty to rebuild Germany's military industry, as previously stated.
Financed with a fiat currency invented by the Jews in the Nazi government to hide it's purpose from the international community.
Ryder Nguyen
unsubstantiated claims by the zealot, oh say it ain't so
David Walker
>nice explanation, seriously why though? they are the literl niggers of society and you want to promote this even further? it's just self destructive, a man who's capable of working to earn his dinner will work for it, and if he doesnt then he's just killing himself. I gave the explanation in the line below. People under national socialism usually have to work or provide some other value to the nation to get any welfare. People who abused the system were often punished very harshly. Their existences just aren't entirely subjected to the whims of their employer.
>ah so its someone elses fault that germany lost the war? really cultivates my cashews Why do you keep going on about nukes? They didn't factor into this war. (At least while Germany was part of it)
>why couldnt they build one for germany? why couldnt they play the war smarter? why were they 2-3 months off from when america developed the nuke? you guys got outsmarted by americans desu Why are you so obsessed with nukes? While we were winning, there was no reason to build some kind of superweapon and once we started losing it was too late to develop one.
>im probably more white than you I doubt it.
>post war because you guys fuckin lost to commies, kek thats embarrassing really. Pic related. Once the enemy has more people than you have bullets, winning becomes rather difficult.
>regardless if thats their defining characteristic or not, we all know the aryan meme is just a meme to divide whites. I'm guessing you mean slavs and jews? Because almost all other "white" peoples are aryan. And even slavs aren't entirely foreign, but simply a mix between aryans and asiatic peoples. Or are you confusing Germanics and Aryans? That's a rather common mistake for people that haven't looked into the topic.
Noah Moore
ITT: People who know nothing about National Socialsim
>Only because he violated international treaty so hitler didnt do what the International Jews wanted...and it made his naiton prosperous and powerful. should tell you something..
Oliver Wright
This.
James Perry
Go away JIDF
Kayden Green
Having the opportunity to rebuild your military industry in the first place is an extraordinary circumstance. He killed millions of Europeans for no fucking reason.
Jayden Butler
>oh and also, it's a leftist ideology.
Easy way to spot a kike is that they repeat the same bullshit over and over.
RIGHT/LEFT DICHOTOMY COMES FROM THE FRENCH REVOLUTION YOU FUCKING RETARD. You have no idea what you're talking about. I bet the T_D faggots will eat it up though.
Sup Forums was natsoc board since the start and the fact that threads like these are tolerated is a sign we've been invaded by highschool reddit faggots.
Hunter Nelson
>Hurr there's a political solution Okay have fun being driven into the dirt time and time again. You might as well be a lemming if you aren't already.
Cooper Rodriguez
Is it just me or have Natsoc/ethnostate and SIG threads been disappearing on pol and anti natsoc threads have suddenly grown unabated while SIG threads have been outright banned? The illusion of the kikes, defeat the army whose voice you used in the digital realm I see you filthy judas’s.
Samuel Myers
They're running scared boys. They saw how well the last thread about Americans feeling sympathetic towards the Third Reich went. Look at them squirm.
Evan Thompson
>He killed millions of Europeans for no fucking reason. please watch hellstormdocumentary.com its free..
Kevin Young
In the immediate, yes we're not going to quit bailing water out of the boat.
Who is the lemming here again?
Daniel Hughes
>hurr WW2 was Hitler's fault It was France and the USSR's fault. France because they got with the replacement leader of Poland who was a twat and started fucking Germany and USSR over economically; USSR because the USSR agreed to invade simultaneously with Germany to make France fuck off and let Germany go in alone for half a month on purpose so that Germany would attract France and Britain and the USSR could roll in and neither France nor Britain would go after THEM.
So if the USSR had held up their end, WW2 wouldn't have happened then and wouldn't have happened the way it did if at all.
Samuel Moore
>Sup Forums was natsoc board since the start
You must not have been here for the "start". You're showing your newness faggot.
Cooper Perez
>WW1 entirely Germany's fault >Hitler comes to power, still bound by treaty denying them military industry >Sheeeeeeit muh dick mofugga watamelon >ignores treaty, and responsibility for WW1 >starts WW2
>2017 >retards: "Hitler did nothing wrong! Killing white people is good!"
William Howard
Just know that shitskins will NEVER vote for small government. You need to take it back first.
Jaxon Green
>state owns almost nothing, everything is privately owned >it's socialism guiz, it's in the name just like how north korea is a democratic republic!
Benjamin Carter
>Sup Forums was natsoc board
Holy fucking newfaggotry
Someone nuke this board pls
Jackson Fisher
The guy who is content with materials and small "victories" (Lol I bet you think the election of (((Trump))) is a victory for whatever you think you're fighting for) and doesn't want to face the situation realistically/fight for the future.
>Bailing out water Weak. Get a bilge pump, or do what I advocate for and SINK THE BOAT.
Jayden Gonzalez
Hey retard I have a degree in economics and the only people who remain libertarians are those who take 101 and think "HURRR DURRR WELL SUPPLY AND DEMAND ITS THAT SIMPLE." Dont just kill yourself, kill everyone in your extended family. If your genetic code was repeated again would be unbearable to humanity.
Ayden Cruz
Always has been, buddy. We all wanted Libertarianism at some point, until we realized
Gavin Robinson
It was a containment board for natsocs. Try harder pushing the myth that it wasn't schlomo.
Gavin Turner
The holocaust never happened
Carson Evans
Serbia kills an archduke, Russia defends Serbia, Germany honors pact with Austria. CLEARLY GERMANY'S FAULT.
Elijah Reyes
It was literally a containment board you stupid fucking fuck. Way to out yourself as a ron paul phase newfag holy fuck.
Noah Smith
I endorse optics cucking on any edgy symbols, but I will have my huwhite nation.
Liam Reyes
I find it hard to believe that you have even graduated highschool given the structure of your sentences, but if you are such an economics buff, would you terribly mind telling me where Nazi Germany succeded and where it failed in regards to trade, exchange, and interdependance?
Jason Rodriguez
This. Nazism is fine, but we need a new image. The brainwashing is too powerful for the brainlet normies to combat.
