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Tradcucks, be gone. This is a board for rational men.

Rational men don't marry

>muh hedonism
kys

Sage

>failing at your only purpose as a biological organism
I think on your deathbed when you're surrounded by literally no one you might change your mind

Are you implying hedonism is wrong?

"How dare you pursuit pleasure and happiness all throughout your life! The nerve!!"

Hedonism is subjective. For some people, having kids brings them pleasure in life. For others, having no kids brings them pleasure in life.

>I think on your deathbed when you're surrounded by literally no one you might change your mind
seriously...

This

You could have 70 kids and still be surrounded by literally no one on your deathbed.

>"Our only purpose in life is to have kids"

This isn't the 1800's anymore, Jebediah.

>no daughter to protect
>no son to teach
What a sad life you lead

As a male you can have tons of fun in your 20s and then have a family in your 30s.

OP is a numale faggot

Now replace kids with women.

Having a kid: ~$200k to raise
The amount of wealth that child generates: very likely several times that

>You could have 70 kids and still be surrounded by literally no one on your deathbed.
probably if you're a total scumbag, yeah

Billions of years of organisms all were man enough to reproduce and carry on their genes. They never failed. Then there was OP.

You basically just said having a family is not fun.

Good goy

>This isn't the 1800's anymore, Jebediah.
so what's the point then? nothing? just hang out until you die?

Fake news, terrible bait

>An abortion and a dog

Wow what a lineage

Yes. Enjoy your time on this planet as much as you can. Some people want to have kids and that's fine. Some people don't want kids and that's fine too.

White genocide, worldwide

I have a 3 year old and so far it's been shit. Definetely not having a second one no matter how much my gf nags me.

>said user, who's civilization and people died off after one generation to be replaced by a completely foreign group
If you want to spit on your ancestors do it by their graves, not on here

Then what is the primary purpose of life? Making more shekels for Mr. Noseberg? Chasing hedonistic pleasures?

>accumulate money and pursue mindless pleasures
i have different priorities in life

having children is a selfless act, hedonism is not

>the decadent sacrifices the future to himself
Objectively failing at evolution and thinking it's fun. Can't imagine I fell for this in my bluepilled days.

Watching your own nature grow and change before your eyes into an autonomous being as real as you are. Watching your life extend beyond your life. Heeding the call of your deepest nature.

It's fucking sad that people don't want to do this. The decadent is intelligent, right? Why not reason it out and see that you are an evolved (and evolving) being and that all your feelings--"fun," "pleasure," etc.--only exist to spur you to objective evolutionary goals?

Oh yeah, because reason is a slave. This is why warriors have to run societies, not intellectuals. The mind obeys the heart. And all the intellect in the world can't fix a sick heart. If you really prefer what is harmful to you, only the gas chamber can help.

>how to make the west go completely extinct in a generation : the post

>dying without a legacy is rational

>failing as a dad this much
how come it's been shit? she's 3-year old, you should be able to handle that much. And your second should be way easier now you know the drill. if you're both white, have 5 children, else kys

After a few hours on a jetski you will be bored. You've achieved titillation but nothing meaningful. On the other hand, raising a family will contribute to the ongoing destiny of the human race. Raising a family is the challenge that nature has engineered you to undertake and accomplish. Being childless is like getting distracted from the main quest by a silly minigame.

>who's civilization and people died off after one generation to be replaced by a completely foreign group

That's been happening since the beginning of the human race. One tribe kills the other and so on.

>Then what is the primary purpose of life? Making more shekels for Mr. Noseberg? Chasing hedonistic pleasures?

"What is the purpose of life?" is a cute question. Why does life need to have a purpose? When you squish an ant with your finger what was the purpose of that ant's life? If we're lucky, we get to spend 70 years on this planet and never again. Have fun. Do what you feel is right. Make money, see the world. What is so awful and wrong with seeking pleasure in your life? I don't understand this.

Important insight.

They're only being rational relative to their goal of feeling feefees. Pretty irrational to look at the world and think feefees are the point of animal behavior.

>clinging to muh genes (that will degrade completely after a dozen generations) is rational
>burger Intellectuals

Not having children is irrational.

Who's gonna look after you when you've become old and senile?

Plus you can just go jetskiing with them.

Is there a comic strip when she is dried up and wants what she can no longer have?

I'm not even failing as a father, my kid is doing great. I just generally don't enjoy the experience and wouldn't recommend it.
4/10

>the way to be happy is to go jet sking, not fulfilling your fundamental purpose in life

>t. 17 year old

It's probably for the best that hedonists don't have children desu

>>dying without a legacy is rational

Yeah, your legacy of shitposting with strangers on an anime image board and jacking off to internet porn. Cool story bro.

Bitch about ended up slitting her wrists after she wants to have kids but can't because she waited

Not really. I would kill myself before that doing something stupid like traveling to Russia or fist fight/ fuck a bear or going to a villa (hood) at night with mad money coming out of my pockets and insulting every nigger I see.
If I don't loose my Virginity until 35 I going to play life in stupid mode

Ei vittu millanen idiootti.

Basically this. There's nobody over 30 without kids who isn't completely and fundamentally depressed, or otherwise seriously mentally ill (explaining why they don't care).
I'm over 30. I don't have kids. None of the people I know over 30 without kids are balanced and well adjusted human beings (myself included).

Nigger, do you think your fucking kids will stay and wipe your ass 24/7? I'll be thrown in a retirement home.

>creating another jewish wageslave is legacy according to the average burgergoy
Lmao

>I'll be thrown in a retirement home.
And who do you think is gonna pay for that?
None of us will ever have a pension.

To add to this, yes, I do know some nigger-tier people who have kids who like to run their stupid fucking mouths about how much they missed by having kids, but those people deserve to be stabbed in the face for being pieces of shit. They are nigger-tier. They were given the ultimate gift and have squandered it dreaming about a pretty reality where I've been and can assure them is worthless.

Pleasure =/ = happyness
Hedonism is literraly persuiting sensible pleasure like drugs, food, sex everything that can make you feel better and making that you objective in life. Soon or later you end up burn out

Yes
>t. Mr noseberg Jr

Merkel syndrome. They mentally adopt the Wretched of the Earth through their goddamn phone screens.

Basically this. Yesterday I had the day off. I could have sat around on my ass drinking and playing vidya. Instead I went and spent the whole day doing yard work and cleaning. When that was done I cooked a delicious fucking roast and then sat on the shitter with my latest read. I was happy at the end of the day. People need to stop mistaking pleasure for happiness. Acute pleasure often comes at the cost of fundamental happiness.

How sad. An incredible investment into the most rewarding experience and relationship that life can offer. Watching a tiny fragile little thing that goes from 100% dependency on you to becoming a strong, self-sufficient, happy human being. Getting to know what true unconditional love is like. Learning more about yourself and becoming a better person in the process as you're forced to burn away your inequities and pass on your best qualities, in turn knowing that your investment in the future will pay dividends.

>but muh jetski

this pic is retarded on many levels but most importantly why would you marry a bitch and risk half your possessions if she's not shitting out babies every year?

So weird how a Bulgarian is calling America. Stupid. Average of in Bulgaria is what? 90, 93? The USA is higher despite being full of Hispanics and blacks. Not to mention there are hundreds of American famous American scientists , athletes intellectuals businessmen etc. What exactly does Bulgaria have except hairy people?

So weird how a Bulgarian is calling America. Stupid. Average of in Bulgaria is what? 90, 93? The USA is higher despite being full of Hispanics and blacks. Not to mention there are hundreds of American famous American scientists , athletes intellectuals, businessmen etc. What exactly does Bulgaria have except hairy people?

Who ever said I had to marry to get kids?

I think that we should just beat hedonists and nihilists to death.

But I'm naturally sterile
>mfw I shoot blanks

>ITT religiouscucks
enjoy been the slave of your own semen while i fuck every 10/10 bitch on my private yacht

>None of us will ever have a pension.
Retirement system collapsing means a total meltdown. You'd be dead from lack of medication/food before you actually have to worry about being senile.

>will pay dividends
Such as?

>whataboutist countryposting
Nice argument burger.

Also
>childfree_34.jpg
The mere fact that a movement was and named so conspicuously is obvious overcompensation that, to me, just shines a spotlight on the immediate shame of those who utter the name.
It's like that fat, single, ugly, 30 year old cat lady on faceberg that always posts infographics about how cats are better than children.

Fuck off kike.

Underrated post. Very insightful, thanks.

People shouldn't have children for pleasure. They should be compelled to do so by the government. Single people and childless couples should be taxed into oblivion. A single woman should be subjected to an 80% income tax.

Just because one person does not have children doesn't mean the genes aren't passed on. Siblings and other relatives can pass on your genes. Evolutionary it can be a win to concentrate on career, money, power and use those resources to further your extended family.

If you're the childless yet rich and influential uncle that sets up all his nephews and nieces with high paying jobs, you spread your genes very efficiently. Hell, you could be gay and it would still work.

Why isn't there 100 threads a day from parents begging people to validate their decision to have kids??????

>that comic
>they don't have enough money for both
P O O R F A G S
G E T
O U T

Men's lot in life is to plant trees whose shade he will never sit beneath. What does that make you?

Because there's no shame in parent hood to cover up for.

Because there's no actual parents on Sup Forums, just larpers.

hahahahahah oh man. you're daft. I could go into why, but I am at work.

Banging a ton of women gets old, fast.

Look at Ron Jeremy, does he look happy?

Even Hef got married and had kids when he clearly didn't "need" to

MGTOW is just male feminism, MGTOW is the male version of a 300 pound blue haired man-hater

Yo Wait up nigga I think you got it all wrong.
Hedonism its persuiting happiness trough sensible pleasures and making your life out of it, its a vice. Now I am not telling you that having sex once in a while or drinking a beer is hedonism or a vice, its good but like I said once in a while making your life objective out of drinking and having sex like USA teenager girl its not going to give you good results in the future, hedonist its a mindless persuit of sensible pleasure derived from emptyness and lack of meaning

C U R R E N T Y E A R

Who said you have to have kids to get a legacy

>rational men
Cowards and gluttons, raised on and enslaved by luxury.
>Look at me! I might not have any competent sons or compassionate daughters, but at least I made marketing executive!
Your paycheck doesn't compensate for the rest of your imbalances.

Because they do that by pressuring their friends and family into having kids with desperate looks in their sleep-deprived eyes.

My baby is sleeping in the next room

I agree. You can take the celibate path if you work your ass off for your people. Jetskiing doesn't cut it.

Have fun when you're 60-80 years old without kids to help you and there is absolutely no way to continue your own bloodline.

Good on your leave, children are the future.

The leaf is right. A more complete and happy life often comes out of things that we may not like or are tiresome.

>MUH GENES
Um, no sweetie

there's nothing rational in being an eunuch
To get married and have children is more than your job: Your duty. Marriage is an institution meant to foster this duty. Gay marriage is the destruction of this institution: It means that it does NOT matter to have children and raise them. It is therefore nihilistic in nature. Hence the gigantic energy spent on perverting the next generation through the state school system. It was all a effort to destroy our civilisation.

*good on you leaf

Don't even know how I messed up that bad.

>implying kids help their parents now instead of throwing them in a home

The purpose of the ant was to preserve the information that made the ant. That's the reason it was made and so it was his purpose. He didn't even fail by dying, the information he's preserving is contained in his queen and dying alerts the rest of the ants to danger through smells.

For humans seeking happiness doesn't lead to happiness, they are happy when they fulfill the mechanism their biology has set up to preserve the information that made them. Things that are difficult are more rewarding than things that are easy. If I had the choice of infinite pleasure for as long as I like or a human life I would choose human life filled with the glorious struggle and hardship that drives us forward.

>you need to be married to have kids

Ted taught me that. I don't agree with his harsh, all-or-nothing, approach but reading his manifesto was certainly a life-changing experience for me. Came a little late mind you, but at least it came at all.

Have you ever seen any of those "rational" childfree Reddit types riding jet skis?

Because I haven't!

But I have seen successful people who have kids riding jet skis.

They do tho. And the kids who don't that are the nihilistic faggots that think material wealth is better than family values.

Great that you think of your own kid that way.

I mean, of course you can avoid getting married, but ultimately these fuckers are against any kind of relationship with a women, specially if you want to have kids

I have no problem with these guys never having kids, but what bugs me off is that they shill their cucked ideas here like it were something good or a desirable life choice

Meh, I love my kid more than anything. I just don't like being a parent and I was a lot happier before. Which makes sense because having young children tends to negatively impact life satisfaction while having grown children improves it.

you will never hear your pregnant wife tell you in bed "we love you", then kiss her and fall asleep hugging her

once you hit the age where your old body is incapable of giving you those big dopamine hits that you've decided is all that matters you're going to hate yourself for being such a failure. Just wait.

I don't know whether to laugh or to cry when I see a childfree boomer being inconvenienced by being berated and outnumbered by young coloreds. You can just taste the dissonance. You just know they're thinking
>I-It's okay, I still made the right choice
>T-they do the jobs young people don't want to do
>Give up my holidays and culture? That's okay, we were a decadent people

Everybody I know who complains about their toddler has a spoiled brat and lets their kid call the shots.