Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>In order to create a stateless society, we must first surrender all power to the state >Don't you worry, this new dictatorship of the proletariat will gladly dismantle itself once "utopia" is achieved >Until then, you and your progeny must endure slave labor, famines, arrest quotas, and death camps
Christopher Morris
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Jacob Gutierrez
>the state known as the dictatorship of the proletariat will wither away once all the capitalists are gone
Xavier Sanders
We will obliterate you once again.
Nicholas Carter
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Bentley Richardson
hello my fellow leftists i sure do hate the (((bourgeoisie)))
Lucas Morales
Nice try pig.
Ryder Collins
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Michael Lewis
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Kayden Cruz
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Hunter Evans
>productive infrastructure is socially owned So your computer used for work has to be shared with other people? That's why communism doesn't work. People want to own their own shit.
Carson Barnes
Behold your fate, leftist scum. Not a single inch of you will escape the exquisite agony of our blades. You will go out slowly; your last thoughts will be a reflection on your failure to realize your little Marxist dystopia.
Benjamin Cox
Imagine I'm a self-employed web developer. Under communism I am forced to rent my computer from 'all of society'/ aka the government. I can never own my computer outright. Even if I manufacture the computer myself, I'm forced to give it away, because it's used for production. Fuck communism.
>In his book, Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954, I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin. >In Europe A History, British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties. >Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths. >In his acclaimed book The Great Terror: Stalins Purge of the Thirties, Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said: We get a figure of 20 million dead [under Stalin], which is almost certainly too low and might require an increase of 50 percent or so. ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
Colton Jones
>Putting the hammer inside Commies are all idiots
Ayden Johnson
It can't work, dude. It looks great on paper, but it assumes a general attitude of altruism across the whole national community. That doesn't happen - you instead just replace one oligarchy with another in every occasion where Communism has been seriously attempted. And while the idea of killing off old money/aristocracy is heartwarming and all that, it doesn't solve problems in the long-term.
The better way is to utilize socialism as a check against corporatist social stratification, the way FDR did it. Have socialist and capitalist elements constantly warring, but never victorious - to steer too far in either direction invites revolution, as the people are bound to suffer while a hedonistic arbitrarily-assigned elite spends the product of their labor on criminal goods.
Elijah Long
Under communism if you use something for 'production', you have to give it up. So the computer used for self-employment would have to be seized.
Anthony Gonzalez
>implying comrades give a shit about social constructs
feeble little wagecuck
Nicholas Young
why are communists so brainwashed?
Let's do it for the 30th times, it will work this time. We won't ever turn corrupt noo, it;s for the people... lol morons
Lucas Young
Kek...this is why private businesses in Venezuela are leaving. You fucking commie promoters are nothing more than a collection of late teens, early 20s indoctrinated idiots by college professors. Name one successful communist state senpai, pro tip, you can't. But we jnow what your answer will be..."muh. not real socialism". Here is a great link, and picture describing a proven failed system. youtube.com/watch?v=zw-FF6CPmvs
Christopher Cox
>The irony of OP sounding like an evangelizing religious fanatic. >The irony that the slave morality of communism has its roots in the herd morality of Christianity's "equality before God." What's the real opiate of the masses? Ideology is religion for the modern man of mediocrity.
Chase Bailey
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Carson Peterson
Very plausible indeed
Adrian Rodriguez
I was arguing with a genuine communist in the pub recently.
He's actually quite big brain but his only response to why it never worked is that "true" communism has not been tried yet. It's infurtiating - the memes are real.
I then broke down the stupidity of wiping away the class systems for what effectively ends up being an unaccountable leftst dictatorship and he just starting ranting about Tories (UK """""right wing"""" party)
Eventually you realise they they just need to be physcially removed .. there is no reasoning with them. The mountains of bodies and skulls mean nothing to them .. and these days they're fundamentally anti-white, too.
Luis Wright
I am amazed that even idiots fall for commjudism
Asher Hill
We killed like a hundred million people and impoberished everyone else last time we had power, we’ll do better next time promise!
Now turn over all power and weapons and control over every aspect of your lives to us! Thanks goy
Jason Rivera
Your so called "professors" lied to you all. Ask them how many hours a week they work, and why they have summers off. Why do many of them have to trick students into signing up for their classes? You do realize that most of your college degrees ware utterly worthless, right? You understand that you will be in debt for the rest of your lives paying back student loans for tens of thousands of Dollars, right? You also understand that you have little to no support outside of your echo chambers, right? If communism is so great, move to North Korea, or Cuba.
Henry White
Sup Forums - JUDAISM GENERAL Hello goyim. This general is for the discussion of Judaism-Zionism, the ideology of slavery and subjugation of the goyim.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the freedom stage and the hardship stage.
What exactly Judaism means to Judaists-Zionists:
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Zachary Lee
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Thomas Hill
Just tell him the true capitalism hasn’t been tried yet and it will be utopia next time
Brandon Wilson
Give up. Your kind will never reach the top of the board for more than a minute before being shoved back down. These threads only gain traction during low-traffic hours and are one massive circlejerk comprised entirely of leftypol faggots bumping their bullshit. You should go back to pumping out your blacked threads, at least those had more of an effect.
Eli Parker
fuck off
Isaiah Moore
Why is communism considered good and Nazism bad, When Communism has killed ~100,000,000 people UNINTENTIONALLY, while Nazism killed around 17,000,000 INTENTIONALLY. Communism Out-Nazied the Nazis WITHOUT EVEN TRYING.
Does anyone here Oppose letting The mixed economies of today continue until a nice Star-Trek Egalitarian-Meritocratic Utopia evolves from them, Instead of trying -and failing- to have a revolution again?
Xavier Wright
Arguing with a brain washed communist is like trying to teach calculus to your dog...its a waste of time. I suppose it makes sense for these idiots to promote a failed system, especially when they are in debt for the rest of their lives, and have a worthless degree that is not marketable in a free society. Their professors all lied to them.
Parker Rodriguez
Fuck off commie garbage
kIll yourself
Christian Walker
Perhaps you can move their and help them implement their "rabbit" plan.
Jason Taylor
Future? We don't have that in communism. FTFY.
Jackson Bennett
I see your gibs-me-lot marxist ideology crumble all over the world. Will it last for another year?
Jordan Wilson
The only way you "obliterated" anyone was with the help of capitalist America sending supplies to your commie ass.
Isaiah Rivera
hahah communism very funny failed ideology this thread serves well for containment of failed minds
Leo Torres
Any rebuttals from the commies here? Why are none of you moving to North Korea or Cuba? Why do you continue to listen to commie college professors that work less than 20 hours a week, and get summers off? You know most of these professors make around six figures a year and have tenure, but strangely can't market their so called skills in a free market economy. Why is that?
Carson Edwards
If communism always ends in mass killing, is it ok to kill commies to prevent communism? Really makes me think.
Julian Martin
Communism gay bro
Gavin Morales
So to speak
Levi Price
>make around six figures a year and have tenure >can't market their so called skills in a free market economy Fucking brainlet
Joseph Collins
>Communism is great >For target practice
Bentley Ross
>Environmental Disasters >Capitalism >Don't give up on the commie dream, it's not real commiehood because muh hurricane. Never change shitkins ∆•∆
Daniel Campbell
underrated
Benjamin Kelly
Even private companies in China will soon be forced to make economic decision based on party goals.
Kek
Christian Martin
Reminder that the fundamental tenants of Marxism the laws and concentration camp system set up by Lenin led to the deaths in the millions of deaths through internal repression in the Soviet Union.
If you'd like to know exactly how and why this happened, read pic related.
Christopher Gutierrez
I bet you unironically believe the DMV niggers are the most qualified too
Brayden Reed
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Easton Morgan
>forgetting 50 million people were killed under your retarded system
Okay faggot, keep asking for more gibbedats
Samuel Peterson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run
away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD
Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Luke Morris
does anyone actually believe this?
Julian Lee
This is what "Globalism" is... New World Order = Worldwide Communism.
FUCK THAT FUCK EU FUCK BRUSSELS FUCK SOROS
James Stewart
Please, die in a diy fire.
Aiden Hill
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Adam Taylor
Just thought I'd drop in say hi to the >I'm a closeted homo becuase I hate my dad containment board.
Grayson Johnson
>every hypothetically preventable death in the world is caused by capitalism
How can communists be this stupid?
Kevin Morris
Dutch East Indies was reactionary. Just like WW 2
Jayden Brooks
Everyone knows hunger, cigarettes and war only exist in capitalist societies.
Sebastian Lopez
Looks like communism is a front for Jewish control.
Connor Lopez
Imperialism isn't capitalism tho.
Carter Fisher
ML faggot fuck off Read Bakunin and Proudhon
Joshua Ward
Let's hope he stands by that.
Carter Cox
Marx did have a job. He was a writer, dipshit
Oliver Morris
Jesus that is brutal. Getting flayed has to be one of the worst was to die.
Dylan Walker
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Parker Sanders
What about my bread
Caleb Diaz
I hope you all die painful deaths.
Ayden Gomez
Communism empowers people locally, raising up democratic local leadership to take over local organization, gradually withering the state over to its replacements in the grassroots. The stateless society is achieved when every community is capable of autonomous self-direction!
thank you, i literally only ever open this thread for this post
Elijah Anderson
I don't like lies this will never happen enjoy the freedom cuck and the internet while you still have it. if the commie do take over the first thing that will to be goin will be the internet then bread .
Jack Thompson
The systemic flaws in a centrally planned economy end up destroying a country in about 60 years, which is about as long as ll communist countries have lasted. Its a flawed concept with no checks and balances to offset mismanagement. This is why the soviet union imploded.
Leo Hill
Physical removal is coming.
Jack Garcia
Fake book written by controlled opposition.
Oliver Cox
Come and try, if you dare.
David Walker
>Worst propaganda meme ever made >None of the "facts" are based in reality
Go fuck yourself you commie nigger Jew
Justin Edwards
LMAO, you going to cry about it for another 30 years after you get BTFO again? > M-muh disappeared people
Michael Reed
Gorbachev, the traitor collapsed the Soviet Union for no reason. Thankfully, another Communist superpower is going to overthrow the American hegemony this century and lead the free world to brighter future under the Communist banner.
Owen Ramirez
>Local dictatorship from the parties most favorer pets. It's just dictatorship. Communists can't handle free speech, thought and debate.
Camden Cox
>china >communist kys
Jose Harris
If you are advocating for free speech, why are you still sucking on the EU cock then? Cuck
Ian Thompson
How can anyone other than the gulag controllers control someone in a gulag? How did your rebellion in Chile go? A big success?
Anthony Bennett
No u kys
Josiah Cooper
Don't (you) me nigger. I have germ-phobia and in need for a shower now.
Nathan Cook
Pic related
Liam Ramirez
>homophobia >fetish shaming you can fuck right off
Adam Collins
Don't waste more shekels on useless baths, after all we all know how tight you swamp Germans are.