You will never admit that the faults of capitalism have led America to the unsustainable, culture-less...

You will never admit that the faults of capitalism have led America to the unsustainable, culture-less, bastion of degeneracy and nihilism that it is today because you have the red scare internalized to a degree that you will defend our systems as long as money is in circulation you drooling, self-loathing cucks.

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Fuck off. The only problem WITH THE WORLD ARE KIKES LIKE YOU.

are you commie? which type ?

correct. i would never admit that because to do so would be lying. in reality, the Jew Federal Reserve was the beginning of horse shit in this country.

If it weren't for you commie Bolshevik kike pieces of shit, capitalism in its truest form would reward virtue, quality, efficiency, and affordability.

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and here come the non arguments

Capitalism made everyone secure, well fed, and free enough that failures could talk about communism.

>everyone
You mean people with money.

That isn't communism, that is liberalism disguised as communism

Mean income in the United States is $43,585, 6th in the world. We're by far the largest and most non-homogenous country in the top 10. Americans have money because capitalism works. If you don't have money, it's because you don't work.

>>merica
>>most powerful country in the world
>>failure

I'm convinced communism and mental retardation go hand in hand.

No justice in the world in this corrupt system

I like capitalism. I sure don't want communism, and socialism is alright in limited measure.

But will Sup Forums discuss why a large corporation has never lobbied against:
>immigration
>women's rights (except some based christcucks)
>quotas, affirmative action

Is this problem larger than the jews?

The mean is raised by corporate billionaires who own the vast majority of wealth. Most welfare recipients work full-time jobs.

Most powerful by what metric?

>Most welfare recipients work full-time jobs.

That's an argument to do away with welfare, not against the mean income. Corporate billionaires exist in Europe too, but their populations are fractions of ours. What does that tell you about the averages?

Also if you're going to try some Boinie Sanders DAH ONE PUHCENT bullshit, you are mad at rich people for having specific things you don't have, while taking for granted the luxuries you do. People on welfare own iphones in the USA, but not Ferraris. Your standard of living is still the highest in the world.

Explain how communism would have
1. Led to this point in civilization without a total breakdown (it wouldnt have)
2. Would actually address the problems currently present in society.

>Is this problem larger than the jews?
Of course it fucking is. Capitalism wants to make dumb consumers of you all. It doesn't want things like culture and tradition getting in the way of that. It doesn't want anti-immigration sentiment to stop companies from importing cheap labour. Capitalism is responsible for the death of culture, tradition, and for all the social liberalism in the West, not communism which is frequently blamed instead despite having little to no influence in Western political circles.

If you are a capitalist, you are defending the status quo which is killing the West. Anti-capitalism calls for the liberation of the people from usury, consumerism, and materialism.

The problem is you want utopia and aren't willing to reconcile human nature.
It's not about picking the best system, it's about picking the least worst.
As bad as capitalism can be, it's lightyears ahead of communism.

>America is capitalist since 1776
>no problems with culture, degeneracy, nihilism, etc. until the late 20th century
What did he mean by this?

> capitalism is bad
> political Judaism aka communism is only alternative.

Sorry faggot. We got other options.

I do admit that. Capitalism is cancer. I only believe in feudalism.

> liberation of the people from usury, consumerism, and materialism.


Yeah you can fucking say that again.

Also lmao at communism preserving culture. The first thing tiny-dicked commies do is destroy any remnants of the previous successful cultures they're about to leech from.

>faults of capitalism
You may be a burger, but you've no clue how your own country works.
December 23, 1913 - Never Forget.

Are you literally retarded? Capitalism has existed in the West since the end of feudalism in the 15th/16th centuries. And guess what? Culture and tradition were just fine for most of that period, and indeed can be said to have bloomed to its highest point. Everything that you described in your post started going to shit in the 20th century, (((coincidentally))) when communism got big.

Can you point out where the OP endorses communism? Perhaps he's a socialist, or he thinks capitalism should have stricter regulations. You're acting like Twitter right now.

PORKY IS JEWISH

WHY CAN'T UOU FUCKING COMMIES REALIZE THIS

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST FIGURE IT OUT

DON'T YOU REALIZE WE'RE AGAINST THE SAME ENEMY

>America
>culture-less
t. nigger raised by leftist teachers and a single mother

You shouldn't get capitalism and Jews exploiting capitalism confused with, silly user.

wrong. I'm no cucked.
I refuse to work until there is American currency.

Socialism is nothing but a stepping-stone on the way to communism. I'm not exaggerating or anything, that's what Marx, the actual creator of both socialism and communism said it was.

Capitalism didn't do that though.

Corporatism did.

Guess which President was the one who bailed out the banks that caused the crisis instead of letting them die so new competition would fill the void and do the job better?

I'll give you a hint: It was Obama

Anyone who graduates highschool gets any job and doesn't have kids out of wedlock. Doesn't have to be a good job. Could be cleaning shit or garbage

Was culture really "just fine" during that period? Communism tool root for a reason, industrialization fucked everyone over. Obviously communism was a Jewish trap but still, things weren't perfect.

Okay fine.
1. Show how your political system would have led us to this point in civilization (it wouldn't)
2. Show how your political system would alleviate the problems you claim are currently endemic in society.

>despite having little to no influence in Western political circles
WEW LAD

Capitalism: some people are poor

Communism: everyone is poor

Kys

>be a sexless garbage boy slave
>we'll give you money if you life like that

>You will never admit
Of course I will. Now tell me a way to make socialism practical without forcibly lowering standards of living that people desperately crave.

I mean its literally been proving that those are the 3 steps to prospering in america. Graduate high school, work full time, dont have babies before you are ready. 3 easy steps to not being fucking poor as shit.

So fuck off to Venezuela, I hear socialism is working really well there

The US is the best country on earth. Do you know how I know? No other country in the world do people attempt to travel to illegally in such large numbers. Everyone wants to come here.
No culture? Our movies, our books, our music, our products is exported all over the world.

of course it's the recipe. be a slave good goy and don't reproduce and you'll get a pittance.

this is the life slaves are afforded. kikes have really done it.

American culture is mindless consumerism and worshipping celebrity millionaires.

>[blank] is capitalism's fault
never gets old

Damn you are literally retarded. Americans education system at work here.

Communism explicitly wants to destroy everyone's culture. Modern capitalism is just a more subtle way of doing that. Fuck both, both are Jewish traps!

American culture is posters of niggers on the wall even though it's proven they are dumber and less athletic.

No. I'm a genius. That's why I'm going to have 6 children. Without working a single day.

>be a garbage boy slave
>make more than 100k per year

archive.is/r55JZ

The problem is with jews, not the system.

WE ARE COMING FOR YOU PORKY !!!!

OINK OINK OINK !!!!

I'm sure that market isn't saturated with immigrants.
>just get a job that pays well and you're all set bro!
Ah, I remember being a kike bootlicker fresh out of high school.

That's what you are. Remember not everyone is a rootless cosmopolitan!

>lmao at communism preserving culture
Capitalism erodes culture far more than communism supposedly does. FSU and eastern Europe has more culture than you.

>Capitalism has existed in the West since the end of feudalism in the 15th/16th centuries
You obviously don't have a clue what you're on about. Capitalism didn't become a major force until the late 1700s/early 1800s
>Everything that you described in your post started going to shit in the 20th century, (((coincidentally))) when communism got big.
Shit tier argument. Cause and effect takes time. Communism was never really big in the west anyway,
>inb4 you think liberalism is communism

Only in Italy, France, etc. and then they weren't proper Communist parties due to getting cucked by reformists

that shit is fake as fuck.
>i just pick up trash homes.
you think I'm fuckin stupid. like there isn't a monopoly on this shit.
>oh just get a garbage truck out of nowhere

new phenomenon

I don't know why Sup Forums refuses to get red pilled about capitalism. Hitler was red pilled about capitalism. Goebbels was red pilled about capitalism. Evola was red pilled about capitalism. But Sup Forums just hangs on to the proven destructive system for some bizarre reason.

>Was culture really "just fine" during that period?
Considering much of what we now call "traditional Western Culture" originated during this period, and values were generally well-maintained, yes, it was.
>Communism took root for a reason, industrialization fucked everyone over.
Guess what? The west couldn't have risen to the heights it did without industrialization. And unless you're a self-hating hypocrite hippie, you do have to realize that living conditions post-industrialization did improve from pre-industrialization. Yes, there was some pain involved, but it wasn't the worst EVER.
>Obviously communism was a Jewish trap but still, things weren't perfect.
A perfect world cannot logically exist. And things were pretty good under capitalism for hundreds of years.

>Communism explicitly wants to destroy everyone's culture
haha no. Proof?
Counter-example: Ho Chi Minh greatly respected the family, which was central to traditional Vietnamese life.
>Fuck both, both are Jewish traps!
Third positionism is just capitalism under the guise of dictatorship.

All Americans are rootless

Because they're all Republican boomers who cuck for Drumpf

Stop using the word capitalism. We aren't living in the 19th century anymore.

If you are too stupid or uneducated to realize that society has developed since then to more advanced and diverse terms, then you shouldn't be posting on this board.

>culture-less
>literally emulated around the world for fashion, music, movie, demeanor, technology, convenience and food trends
Totally no culture whatsoever.

Nope, kiddo. The South has a distinct culture, New England has a distinct culture, Texas has a distinct culture, and you could argue that the Midwest, Mountain States, and Appalachia have a distinct culture. We're not all cosmopolitan faggots like (you).

>haha no. Proof?

Great Leap Forward in China. Execution of 15 million Christians in USSR.

>the proven destructive system
Is that why capitalist nations all last significantly longer and are significantly more prosperous than every communist country?

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

You can shit on the current state of America and blame capitalism all you want but its meaningless if you cant provide a better alternative. Anyone can be a critic.

Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.

>Great Leap Forward in China
That was a botched attempt at farming reform, not an attack on culture.
>Execution of 15 million Christians in USSR
Gonna have to be more specific. Not that it ever happened anyway
>muh 60 gorillions

Capitalism is older and had a head start, which it used to fight against the communist system, largely successfully after capitalists infiltrated the Soviet Union and China.

Cool, now do you have any thoughts of your own or can you just parrot what other people said

...

>its capitalism and not the jews
fuck off.

>It doesn't want things like culture and tradition getting in the way of that
true

>Capitalism is responsible for the death of culture, tradition, and for all the social liberalism in the West
This is an exaggeration. But ok.

>Anti-capitalism calls for the liberation of the people from usury, consumerism, and materialism.
Maybe.

I think we can all agree that communism is not an option.
I think National Socialism is the best option.
Nobody is going to "do away with" capitalism. What we need are safeguards baked into the constitution to defend a homogeneous constituency and citizenship. We need an explicitly right-wing, conservative, nationalist nation, that prevents erosion from multiple sides, including capitalism.

Any space that is not explicitly right-wing becomes left-wing. Why?
Is it because leftism is rational? No, it is because leftism is a form of entropy of power. The true enemy must be individualism. The individual is weak against the tribe. A factional citizenry is too weak to fight the corporations to preserve their culture.

> Capitalism didn't become a major force until the late 1700s/early 1800s
"Capitalism, also called free market economy or free enterprise economy, economic system, dominant in the Western world since the breakup of feudalism"...
"Feudalism, also called feudal system or feudality, French féodalité, historiographic construct designating the social, economic, and political conditions in western Europe during the early Middle Ages, the long stretch of time between the 5th and 12th centuries"...

Socialism never took root in America because it is a bad ideology.

kill yourself schlomo. you couldn't be more obvious if you tried

america (and many other countries) have become more socialist and less capitalist over the years

welfare and single motherhood for example, are not fruits of capitalism, it's a socialistic policy that destroyed families

Actually communism has been around for thousands of years but was only successful in small scale tribes and towns - it just wasn't called communism until relatively recently.

Communism works well in small homogeneous communities. It CAN'T work well on the scale of a nation - at least not with current technology.

public discourse in this country is almost entirely run by the neomarxist left
Our last president had a close friend who was a weather underground terrorist and even pardoned other far left terrorists before he left office. Trump never would''ve gotten away with that. Every major college campus in this country is full of marxist professors going on and on about "deconstructing" every aspect of our society. For all the talk of capitalists being for immigration only one side of the political spectrum marches through the streets declaring "immigration is a human right," "no human being is illegal" and "fuck borders." Most leftist politicians pay lip service to capitalism but they barely do that anymore

youtube.com/watch?v=foYTNffTdEE

(you)

It doesn't take much to get money.
Only lazy niggers are poor.

>That was a botched attempt at farming reform, not an attack on culture.
>It wasn't real communism

Took a few minutes longer than normal to get here, but all commies are retards so it's going to happen at some point.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Olds
>Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Ideas. One of the stated goals of the Cultural Revolution in the People's Republic of China was to bring an end to the Four Olds.

Pictured: maintaining culture.

I really love capitalism, but I think it's bullshit that we are withholding necessities from humans such as basic food, shelter, and clothing. Especially because food production is artificially propped up by government anyway, and we could easily feed everyone if we would just socialize it already. But the only reason I want that is so that we can then go full capitalism, because capitalism keeps the quality high. But fucking carrots, beans, lentils, potatoes, and even milk. Those should be treated like the commodities they are, and anyone should be allowed to eat a certain maximum of fruits and vegetables per week so that they can get on with more important matters than basic survival. That's what I hate about capitalism, anyway. Cheetos and iphones are still awesome, and should be some of the spoils of capitalism.

Lets not forget that communist ideals such as welfare and shit are the #1 reason the family structure is failing. Which is a LARGE reason civilization is failing.

>(1)

"Capitalism" does not exist, user. It was only ever the strawman that the idea of communism was advanced with. Why are you a useful idiot?

Being sold into slave labor by your poor parents was based. I sure do miss the good old days.

This is the most honest and decent critique of capitalism from one I assume to be ecclesiastical.

Sadly, most of the philistines in this thread aren't going to realize that you are pointing out why they are doomed to a weak faithless culture, and instead they'll succumb to their indoctrinated string of responses to anti-capitalist rhetoric.

we must also discuss the women problem. The european states are socialist (sort of), and have homogeneous people. You would think this would shield them from retardation. But the women get in the way and they do jack shit.

An alt-right country would be:
>explicitly anti-floodgate-immigration as well as restrictions on from where they come from. Think Japan-tier xenophobia
>only white men can vote, since they are the ones who die, pay taxes, and produce tech. Perhaps women who serve in the military could vote, but idk.

Maybe one day, when energy technology gets better, we'll all take over a country and make it great again.

commies are the worst. Liberalism is not the fault of Capitalism. Faggot.

No it isnt, its the same shit thats been said for years. People who are pro capitalism are capable of seeing its faults. The question is, whats the better alternative?

OP is trying to say that there is a 3rd option but newfags are failing hardcore right now.

I'm a grad student studying history. My thesis is going to be on the Red Guards during the Cultural Revolution and how Antifa is the modern day equivalent during the modern day Culture War.

their
>whoops

MUH FREEDUMBS THO

Dont be fucking stupid. Provide that third option or OP is clearly talking about what is considered the opposite, communism.

Capitalism fixes everything and makes everyones lives amazing goys.

Capitalism and Communism are the only choices goys.

translation : I didnt make it and am not happy with my life, I would never admit I fucked up and made some bad choices so I blame the gubbament.

lol, fuckin pleb kys

>I think we can all agree that communism is not an option.
Not in its current form. But there are good elements there, and its better than capitalism imo.
>I think National Socialism is the best option
This is still capitalism. There good ideas in it, mainly concerning how the state comes out the people, but economically it's unconvincing.
>the rest of your post
Using labels like rightism and leftism ought to be avoided because they're vague concepts and its impossible to tell what is meant by them. I won't tell you what's best for America though, I'd have no idea because your culture is alien to me.

There was a transitional period nigger. If you think what prevailed in the 1500s was capitalism you're deluded.

>jew shill jew shill jew shill
I wonder why nobody takes you lot seriously? Must be da j00s

Depends on your definition then, I'm not a Marxist.

m8 that's liberalism
The only commies that achieved power in the USA were ex-Trots called neocons who came in with Reagan. Trots are despised by virtually every other kind of commie.

No it isn't, you fool, it merely repeats poor, tired-out arguments with not a semblance of originality.

the cultural revolution was separate from the great leap forward but you're right, marxism is explicitly destructive of all traditional culture
>workers of the world unite
globalism

Take an honest look at Nazi Germany and tell me that wasn't a largely socialist place... There is a reason every german citizen was happy to live under the nazi flag, even during WW2